[02:25] <LinuxPhreak> I need to make an Alternate Install Disk out of my current Ubuntu Installation. I really don't know where to get info on how to do this. I've posted a quested on launch pad about this. All I really need is info on how to make my current installation into an Alternate Installation CD for my company
[10:06] <CIA-28> ubiquity: evand * r4372 trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Make the '[type here to change]' string translatable (LP: #642989).
[10:16] <CIA-28> ubiquity: cjwatson * r4373 ubiquity/debian/ (3 files):
[10:16] <CIA-28> ubiquity: Stop ubiquity and oem-config when stopping display managers. This
[10:16] <CIA-28> ubiquity: should guarantee that X has exited by the time we try to start plymouth
[10:16] <CIA-28> ubiquity: on shutdown (LP: #628630).
[10:16] <CIA-28> ubiquity: cjwatson * r4373 ubiquity/debian/ (3 files):
[10:16] <CIA-28> ubiquity: Stop ubiquity and oem-config when stopping display managers. This
[10:16] <CIA-28> ubiquity: should guarantee that X has exited by the time we try to start plymouth
[10:16] <CIA-28> ubiquity: on shutdown (LP: #628630).
[10:17] <cjwatson> (sorry for dup, cia looked hung)
[10:17] <CIA-28> ubiquity: cjwatson * r4124 lucid-proposed/debian/ (3 files):
[10:17] <CIA-28> ubiquity: Stop ubiquity and oem-config when stopping display managers. This
[10:17] <CIA-28> ubiquity: should guarantee that X has exited by the time we try to start plymouth
[10:17] <CIA-28> ubiquity: on shutdown (LP: #628630).
[10:24] <ara> morning all!
[10:55] <ara> ev, morning
[11:11] <ogra> ev, just fyi, i get proper -desktop in the preset hostname entry on armel now
[11:18] <ev> good morning ara and ogra
[11:18] <ev> ogra: wonderful, thanks!
[11:18] <ara> ev, have you seen this bug found during last week ubiquity testing? bug 641676
[11:18] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 641676 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity installer gives options to install non-free software during Install using Free-software only option (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/641676
[11:19] <ev> I think I caught that over the weekend.  Fixing now.
[11:20] <ara> ev, thanks
[12:15] <ev> Riddell: your implementation of the prepare page lacks the MP3 license notice.  Might I convince you to implement it? :)
[12:16] <ev> it should appear just beneath the install non-free stuff checkbox
[12:16] <ev> and the text is ubiquity/text/prepare_foss_disclaimer_extra_label
[12:17] <Riddell> ev: an alternative would be to remove gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3 from kubuntu-restricted-addons
[12:17] <Riddell> I don't know why it's in there, we don't use it
[12:17] <ev> what do you use?
[12:17] <Riddell> libxine1-ffmpeg
[12:18] <Riddell> and I should add kopete-gcall too
[12:19] <ev> ah, fair enough
[12:19] <ev> I'll leave it as is then
[12:31] <CIA-28> ubiquity: evand * r4374 trunk/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/plugins/ubi-prepare.py):
[12:31] <CIA-28> ubiquity: Disable the non-free software option if multiverse and restricted
[12:31] <CIA-28> ubiquity: are disabled via preseed (LP: #641676).
[12:31] <CIA-28> ubiquity: evand * r4375 trunk/debian/changelog: LP bug reference.
[14:37] <Riddell> ev: what's the relationship between ubuntu-restricted-addons and ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[14:38] <ev> ubuntu-restricted-extras = ubuntu-restricted-addons + MS fonts + multiverse gstreamer plugins + unrar + and a few other bits
[14:38] <ev> ubuntu-restricted-addons is the stuff that legal was happy hiding behind a checkbox
[14:42] <Riddell> ev: do you think I can add kopete-gcall to kubuntu-restricted-addons?  depends on libmediastreamer0 which depends on libavcodec52
[14:42] <Riddell> libxine1-ffmpeg also depends on libavcodec52 so that should be fine
[14:44] <ev> yeah, libxine1-ffmpeg is in main and kopete-gcall is in universe
[14:44] <ev> sounds reasonable
[14:44] <ev> though if you're concerned, check with legal
[14:45] <ev> Andrew specifically, as he's the one that's helped us with all of this while Amanda has been on other projects
[14:56] <Riddell> ev: I take it the css installing bits didn't happen?
[14:57] <ev> Riddell: correct
[15:57] <Riddell> ev: if I tick the tickbox during install it should end up with kubuntu-restricted-addons installed but not kubuntu-restricted-extras?
[15:58] <ev> Riddell: indeed
[15:58] <Riddell> ev: hum, I ended up with both installed
[16:00] <ev> ah, yikes
[16:00] <ev> fixing now
[16:01] <Riddell> ev: what caused that?
[16:02] <CIA-28> ubiquity: evand * r4376 trunk/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/plugins/ubi-prepare.py): Install kubuntu-restricted-addons, not kubuntu-restricted-extras.
[16:02] <Riddell> ev: bug 643614
[16:02] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 643614 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "KDE frontend installs kubuntu-restricted-extras (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/643614
[16:03] <ev> Riddell: we were telling it to :)
[16:03] <CIA-28> ubiquity: evand * r4377 trunk/debian/changelog: LP bug reference.
[16:04] <Riddell> mm, yes
[16:08]  * Riddell wonders what http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu is
[16:08] <Riddell> and why I don't have the repo key for it
[16:13] <CIA-28> ubiquity: evand * r4378 trunk/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/plugins/ubi-usersetup.py): Clear hostname error when fixed (LP: #640661).
[16:18] <cjwatson> Riddell: mvo is on it, there'll be an ubuntu-extras-keyring or similar
[16:18] <cjwatson> Riddell: it's the third-party applications repository for software-center
[16:18] <cjwatson> (free software, I'm told)
[16:21] <Riddell> still not enabling partner by default I see, I'm surprised none of our clients have complained about that
[16:22] <Riddell> ev: do you know if there's a reason why libdvdread4 isn't in restricted-extras/addons ?
[16:23] <ev> should be.  gstreamer0.10-plugins-{bad,ugly} depend on it
[16:23] <Riddell> ah, but that doesn't do it for Kubuntu, I'll add it directly
[16:24] <cjwatson> Riddell: deliberate - software-center copes even if it's disabled
[16:25] <cjwatson> I'd rather not turn on something that includes non-redistributable software by default; it will take a very explicit and authoritative instruction to get me to do that
[16:26] <Riddell> cjwatson: due to ethical or practical considerations?
[16:27] <cjwatson> ethical
[16:28] <cjwatson> well I suppose sort of practical, but it's over a boundary for me I think
[16:33] <CIA-28> ubiquity: evand * r4379 trunk/ (debian/changelog scripts/plugininstall.py): Deal with broken /cdrom symlinks (LP: #642274).
[17:02] <ScottK> Riddell: The extras thing is for software that's so urgent to get available to users it can't wait for the development cycle to complete, but that is also not good enough to be in Ubuntu.