| micahg | asac: ^^^ | 00:05 |
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| micahg | fta: are you going to file the request for another lpia builder or shoudl I? | 00:06 |
| fta | micahg, please do, i was about to leave | 00:07 |
| micahg | fta: k, have a good night | 00:07 |
| fta | thanks | 00:07 |
| fta | btw, i've committed the apport hooks to the daily branch | 00:07 |
| fta | will need more testers, esp on stable releases | 00:08 |
| micahg | fta: cool, thanks | 00:08 |
| chrisccoulson | asac - i noticed you're still assigned to mozilla bug 467766. are you planning to add a test-case for that patch, or do you want me to take that? | 13:22 |
| ubot2 | Mozilla bug 467766 in Preferences: Backend "user settings for pref keys with defaults in extension get reset on upgrade" [Normal,Assigned] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=467766 | 13:22 |
| chrisccoulson | asac - same question for mozilla bug 460917 too :) | 13:23 |
| ubot2 | Mozilla bug 460917 in Plugin Finder Service "New plugins only recognized after restarting Firefox" [Major,Assigned] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=460917 | 13:23 |
| fta2 | chrisccoulson, hi, if you have time, could you please test my apport hooks in the latest chromium? (python /usr/share/apport/package-hooks/chromium-browser.py) | 14:34 |
| chrisccoulson | fta2 - yeah, sure. is there anything in particular you want me to test for? | 14:35 |
| fta2 | chrisccoulson, well, no assert, for one. and if the reported info match what you have, and if possible, ch v6 | 14:49 |
| fta2 | i expect a few minor adjustments are needed | 14:50 |
| fta | micahg, did you file the request for more lpia builders? | 15:59 |
| micahg | fta: yeah, the queue is under 24 hours, so the builds should finish today | 16:00 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, did you have a chance to give my apport hooks a try? | 16:00 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - that's my next task :) | 16:00 |
| chrisccoulson | sorry, was just finishing with a gnome-terminal crasher | 16:00 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: I'm pushing up Thunderbird 3.0.8 to thunderbird-stable since I haven't fixed the wrapper yet | 16:04 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - cool, thanks. | 16:04 |
| chrisccoulson | urgh, so many updates to do..... | 16:08 |
| chrisccoulson | i think i will leave those for when i have more time :) | 16:08 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - the apport hook is working ok so far with the combinations i've tested. i'll try with ch 6 in a moment | 16:22 |
| fta | good (so far) | 16:29 |
| fta | doesn't work for v6 with a clean profile | 16:37 |
| fta | ok, easy enough, fixed | 16:40 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - you fixed this one already?: | 17:06 |
| chrisccoulson | if 'check_default_browser' in entry['browser']: | 17:06 |
| chrisccoulson | KeyError: 'browser' | 17:06 |
| chrisccoulson | (with a clean profile) | 17:06 |
| fta | yep, hold on a sec, i've also extended it to add the active plugin list | 17:07 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/chromium/chromium-browser.py | 17:10 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: I'm also pushing FF4.0 b6 | 17:10 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - thanks | 17:10 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - awesome :) | 17:10 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: I'm not merging the test suite changes as I don't have time | 17:10 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - no, those aren't important for that. the test-suite changes are really to catch regressions when i start trying PGO builds :) | 17:11 |
| fta | hm, bug 529758 | 17:11 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 529758 in baltix (and 2 other projects) "Extension to install a flash provider (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/529758 | 17:11 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - i think that was one of the things jcastro mentioned in his e-mail when explaining the reason for not switching to chromium on UNE | 17:13 |
| chrisccoulson | s/reason/reasons/ | 17:14 |
| fta | hm, it's an old bug, why did i just receive an update? | 17:15 |
| fta | oh, an upstream bug | 17:15 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - yeah, someone just added a link, and a baltix task as well | 17:15 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, is the new version ok? | 17:26 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - just trying that now | 17:26 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - yeah, that's working ok now | 17:27 |
| fta | hm.. for some reason, the plugins key is not populated until something is manually changed in about:plugins | 17:31 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - yeah, i see that too (on ch 6) | 17:34 |
| fta | it's not my fault though, so it's fine as long as the hooks survive | 17:35 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - where is the "Default Plug-in" for chromium stored? (or is it actually compiled in?) | 17:35 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, i guess it's built-in | 17:36 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - do you know if it's possible to build it as a real plugin? | 17:37 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, there are 1 or 2 sample plugins doing nothing that are built but that i don't ship in the debs | 17:38 |
| fta | ok, committed the new version | 17:43 |
| fta | i still need to see a real bug report using it :P | 17:44 |
| fta | also, i'm far from sure it works down to hardy | 17:45 |
| fta | the apport api seems to be moving quite fast | 17:45 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, do you have a hardy setup at hand? (to test the hooks) | 17:51 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - yeah, i have a hardy VM here | 17:51 |
| chrisccoulson | i can test that in 20 minutes or so if that's ok? | 17:51 |
| fta | sure | 17:51 |
| BUGabundo | kenvandine: ping | 19:51 |
| kenvandine | BUGabundo, pong | 19:51 |
| BUGabundo | what do you need to check on gwibber? | 19:52 |
| BUGabundo | Installed: 2.33.0~bzr864-0ubuntu1~daily1 | 19:52 |
| BUGabundo | on Maverick 64bits | 19:52 |
| BUGabundo | kenvandine: ^^^^ | 19:54 |
| kenvandine | logs | 19:54 |
| kenvandine | and what isn't working | 19:54 |
| BUGabundo | no timeline updates | 19:54 |
| BUGabundo | what logs you need? runtime debug? | 19:55 |
| BUGabundo | one $ gwibber-service -d -o coming right up | 19:55 |
| kenvandine | ~/.cache/gwibber/gwibber.log | 19:56 |
| kenvandine | so none of your services are updating? | 19:56 |
| BUGabundo | $ pastebinit ~/.cache/gwibber/gwibber.log | 19:57 |
| BUGabundo | uploading a 3MB file | 19:57 |
| BUGabundo | Gwibber Dispatcher: DEBUG <twitter:responses> Performing operation | 19:57 |
| BUGabundo | Gwibber Dispatcher: DEBUG <twitter:lists> Adding record | 19:57 |
| BUGabundo | Gwibber Dispatcher: DEBUG <twitter:lists> Finished operation | 19:57 |
| BUGabundo | Gwibber Dispatcher: ERROR Twitter failure - {u'favorited': False, u'contribu | 19:57 |
| BUGabundo | I only see a bunch of this | 19:57 |
| BUGabundo | kenvandine: http://paste.ubuntu.com/497182/ | 19:59 |
| BUGabundo | kenvandine: all timelines have been stalled for 3 days | 19:59 |
| kenvandine | interesting... are you using RTL? | 20:01 |
| BUGabundo | not afaik | 20:01 |
| BUGabundo | but my lang system seems to be wacky | 20:01 |
| BUGabundo | could be related | 20:02 |
| kenvandine | oh | 20:03 |
| kenvandine | interesting | 20:03 |
| BUGabundo | what is ? | 20:03 |
| kenvandine | so it is seeing content of a message as being RTL | 20:03 |
| kenvandine | and causing a traceback | 20:03 |
| * BUGabundo reinstalls lang packs and tries to fix _something_ | 20:03 | |
| kenvandine | which is aborting the message | 20:04 |
| kenvandine | no... not that | 20:04 |
| kenvandine | seems content related | 20:04 |
| BUGabundo | ahh | 20:04 |
| BUGabundo | from some user? | 20:04 |
| BUGabundo | yes. a friend posted some hacky encoded chars the other day | 20:04 |
| BUGabundo | broke a few apps | 20:04 |
| BUGabundo | let me get his timeline | 20:04 |
| kenvandine | well i think this exposed a bug in gwibber, of course :) | 20:05 |
| kenvandine | which is GREAT | 20:05 |
| BUGabundo | http://twitter.com/hcarrega/status/24882953041 | 20:05 |
| kenvandine | i would never see it | 20:05 |
| fta | mdeslaur, 6 times the same email for USN-989-1?? | 20:05 |
| BUGabundo | kenvandine: that's why I'm talking to you :P | 20:05 |
| BUGabundo | need it filed ? | 20:06 |
| mdeslaur | fta: I didn't send it 6 times...your mail server is going haywire | 20:06 |
| kenvandine | BUGabundo, please file the bug | 20:06 |
| BUGabundo | ahah | 20:06 |
| kenvandine | i am trying to fix now... but would be good to track it | 20:06 |
| BUGabundo | what do you need me to write on it ? | 20:06 |
| kenvandine | failing to finish a refresh | 20:07 |
| kenvandine | post the log as the output | 20:07 |
| kenvandine | and put this traceback in the content | 20:07 |
| kenvandine | Traceback (most recent call last): | 20:07 |
| kenvandine | File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/gwibber/microblog/dispatcher.py", line 92, in perform_operation | 20:07 |
| kenvandine | m["rtl"] = util.isRTL(re.sub(text_cleaner, "", m["text"].decode('utf-8'))) | 20:07 |
| kenvandine | KeyError: 'text' | 20:07 |
| BUGabundo | kenvandine: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/gwibber/+bug/643784 | 20:08 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 643784 in gwibber "failing to finish a refresh (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] | 20:08 |
| fta | mdeslaur, nope, just checked, the issue is somewhere inside google | 20:08 |
| BUGabundo | kenvandine: done | 20:09 |
| mdeslaur | fta: ok | 20:09 |
| fta | (i use my gmail address for those announces with a redirect to my own mail farm) | 20:10 |
| fta | 1st time it happened in years | 20:10 |
| fta | jdstrand, it seems that if no one asks for chromium to be explicitly on the agenda of the next t-b meeting, nothing will happen | 20:16 |
| fta | maybe it's a lost cause, like in debian | 20:17 |
| kenvandine | BUGabundo, thx | 20:17 |
| BUGabundo | kenvandine: my pleasure | 20:17 |
| BUGabundo | gwibber may suck, but I still find it useful :p | 20:17 |
| kenvandine | :) | 20:17 |
| kenvandine | lets make it not suck :) | 20:17 |
| BUGabundo | what? you gonna make it use <40MBs of ram? instead of 400? | 20:18 |
| BUGabundo | use realtime? | 20:18 |
| BUGabundo | upload pics? | 20:18 |
| BUGabundo | support lists? | 20:18 |
| BUGabundo | shall I continue ? ahah | 20:18 |
| BUGabundo | I'll be happy if it just works, right now | 20:18 |
| kenvandine | lists work | 20:18 |
| kenvandine | upload pics... i am anxious for | 20:19 |
| BUGabundo | its the only tool that can list my mentions from all networks | 20:19 |
| BUGabundo | and show notifications of my timelines | 20:19 |
| kenvandine | realtime stuff from twitter will work in 3.0 | 20:19 |
| kenvandine | gwibber-service is using 26M for me... the client... we need to ditch webkit to make it smaller | 20:19 |
| kenvandine | which hopefully will happen next cycle | 20:19 |
| BUGabundo | kenvandine: and statusnet... also has RT support | 20:20 |
| BUGabundo | RT = realtime | 20:20 |
| kenvandine | it does? | 20:20 |
| BUGabundo | ofc | 20:20 |
| kenvandine | i had heard they were working on it | 20:20 |
| kenvandine | that is ryan's area :) | 20:20 |
| BUGabundo | 25756 72088 68 2151K 648.3M 131.5M 648.3M 131.5M 3% gwibber | 20:21 |
| BUGabundo | that's not 26MBs | 20:21 |
| kenvandine | that isn't gwibber-service | 20:21 |
| kenvandine | the client needs to ditch webkit to get smaller | 20:21 |
| BUGabundo | 24915 71322 31 2151K 405.6M 38004K 405.6M 38004K 1% gwibber-servic | 20:21 |
| kenvandine | for me the client is using 119M of RSS | 20:22 |
| kenvandine | yeah, 38M that is acceptable | 20:22 |
| BUGabundo | wth | 20:22 |
| BUGabundo | all of the sudden gwibber started working :S | 20:22 |
| kenvandine | although not sure why your's is that much more than mine... | 20:22 |
| kenvandine | my 26M of RSS includes facebook, twitter, statusnet, identica, foursquare, greader, and flickr accounts | 20:23 |
| kenvandine | :) | 20:23 |
| BUGabundo | HUGE logs/DBs? | 20:23 |
| BUGabundo | one identica, one statusnet, two twitter | 20:23 |
| kenvandine | nah, that shouldn't affect that | 20:23 |
| kenvandine | actually... maybe all those failures you have | 20:24 |
| BUGabundo | and its pretty recent | 20:24 |
| BUGabundo | maybe 1 month old | 20:24 |
| kenvandine | there might some lists that aren't getting freed | 20:24 |
| kenvandine | since they don't get inserted in the db | 20:24 |
| BUGabundo | bbl, dinner | 20:24 |
| kenvandine | later | 20:25 |
| fta | kenvandine, greader in gwibber? really? how does it look like? | 20:41 |
| kenvandine | fta, not great yet | 20:46 |
| kenvandine | i am experimenting with a branch someone else is maintaining | 20:46 |
| kenvandine | basically new feed entries appear in the message stream | 20:46 |
| kenvandine | i think they need to be separated, they don't feel "right" there imho | 20:47 |
| fta | well, 140 char lines mixed with pages long articles, often with pictures and videos | 20:49 |
| fta | weird idea | 20:50 |
| fta | tweeter feeds into greader look weird too | 20:50 |
| fta | i have one, it's plain ugly | 20:50 |
| fta | micahg, 9 days :( https://edge.launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/dev/+packages | 21:50 |
| fta | it keeps being pushed forward | 21:50 |
| micahg | fta: that's weird | 21:53 |
| micahg | fta: the build has been scored down :( | 21:55 |
| fta | ?? | 21:55 |
| micahg | Start in 8 hours (2455) | 21:55 |
| fta | why? they are no different from my other builds | 21:55 |
| micahg | should be 2505 | 21:55 |
| fta | http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/ppa-dashboard/chromium-daily.html | 21:55 |
| micahg | ask in LP if someone scored the PPA down | 21:56 |
| BUGabundo | kenvandine: look at http://seesmic.com/web/ | 21:57 |
| BUGabundo | they know how to make it look great | 21:57 |
| fta | micahg, there's no longer listening to me there :( | 21:57 |
| BUGabundo | I would use it, if it supported statusnet | 21:57 |
| BUGabundo | they do on the desktop app, but it runs on silverlight (blerg) | 21:58 |
| micahg | fta: I'll try asking later tonight | 21:58 |
| fta | micahg, i'm not doing all that for myself, i'm doing it for the community. if it was only me, the dailies would be enough | 21:58 |
| micahg | fta: I know, I'll see if someone scored it lower | 21:59 |
| BUGabundo | kenvandine: if you have 30 mins, ping me back. I have something I want to run by you | 21:59 |
| fta | BUGabundo, shame! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Wanted/ChromiumDesktop | 21:59 |
| kenvandine | BUGabundo, humm... so what is it that seesmic web does right that gwibber doesn't | 22:22 |
| kenvandine | it actually seems pretty similar | 22:22 |
| BUGabundo | buzz and greader | 22:23 |
| kenvandine | i don't see greader in there | 22:23 |
| kenvandine | how do i add that? | 22:23 |
| BUGabundo | its on the Desktop version | 22:24 |
| BUGabundo | not web | 22:24 |
| kenvandine | oh | 22:24 |
| kenvandine | ok | 22:24 |
| BUGabundo | but what I wanted to ask you was | 22:24 |
| BUGabundo | if you could use some of the know how of gwibber, and make an android app, to use with web.pond.pt | 22:25 |
| BUGabundo | there's the API http://web.pond.pt/home?action=dev | 22:25 |
| kenvandine | they say they have an android app | 22:25 |
| kenvandine | i hadn't seen pond before | 22:26 |
| BUGabundo | the app sucks | 22:27 |
| BUGabundo | doesn't do a basic think like filter read items, like full web does | 22:27 |
| BUGabundo | and the api has support for it | 22:27 |
| BUGabundo | I've contacted the team several times, requesting just that | 22:27 |
| BUGabundo | and been ignored so far :( | 22:27 |
| kenvandine | i wouldn't be of any help to get an android client done and gwibber isn't really suited for a phone yet | 22:30 |
| kenvandine | BUGabundo, how rich is pond's service as it relates to supporting service features? | 22:31 |
| kenvandine | like facebook and stuff | 22:31 |
| BUGabundo | fb, twitte, flickr, and a few others | 22:31 |
| BUGabundo | but they have a unique feature I would love twitter/SN had natively | 22:31 |
| BUGabundo | read/unread state of notices | 22:31 |
| kenvandine | that is something i want to do in gwibber too | 22:32 |
| BUGabundo | we can't ever browse older entries in gwibber | 22:32 |
| BUGabundo | and gwibber is a desktop app | 22:32 |
| kenvandine | but like facebook... posting of images, etc | 22:32 |
| BUGabundo | this is a web service | 22:32 |
| kenvandine | all works ok? | 22:32 |
| BUGabundo | don't have a prob with it | 22:33 |
| BUGabundo | but their android app is very week | 22:33 |
| kenvandine | we won't track all messages, but any message gwibber has downloaded i want to track if it is been seen | 22:33 |
| kenvandine | i also want to "star" or tag them somehow | 22:34 |
| kenvandine | which doesn't necessarily change any status on a server... so not super persistent | 22:36 |
| kenvandine | but on the client, you could have a way to always display starred messages | 22:36 |
| kenvandine | or something | 22:36 |
| kenvandine | so you can go back to them later when you have time or whatever | 22:36 |
| kenvandine | kind of like a save for later | 22:37 |
| BUGabundo | I only use gwibber on this laptop | 22:38 |
| BUGabundo | I use 3 other PCs, and my android | 22:38 |
| BUGabundo | I need a _cloud_ something :\ | 22:38 |
| kenvandine | sure... not the average user :) | 22:38 |
| kenvandine | it would be nice if we had a way to do that in the cloud universally without yet another web service to complicate life | 22:39 |
| BUGabundo | we do | 22:39 |
| BUGabundo | ubuntu one ? | 22:39 |
| BUGabundo | google app engine LOL | 22:40 |
| kenvandine | my goal is much simpler, just let you tag a message that looks interesting so you can go back in a bit to read it | 22:40 |
| kenvandine | doesn't need to be long lived | 22:40 |
| kenvandine | ubuntu one could be cool | 22:40 |
| kenvandine | but a lot of work :) | 22:40 |
| kenvandine | we need to focus on solving the 95% case first... and doing it well :) | 22:41 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - do you think we should just re-use the former source package name for lightning (lightning-sunbird)? | 23:46 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: if I didn't I wouldn't have wanted it dropped from Lucid ;) | 23:47 |
| micahg | *did | 23:47 |
| micahg | which was probably a mistake in retrospect | 23:47 |
| chrisccoulson | do you think lightning-calendar is ok? | 23:47 |
| chrisccoulson | or lightning-extension? | 23:47 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: that's what I was thinking, or lightning-calendar | 23:48 |
| micahg | lightning-extension is the current package, so maybe that | 23:49 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i can use that | 23:49 |
| micahg | but the binary should probably be xul-ext-lightning-calendar or something to that effect | 23:49 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i've taken care of that already | 23:50 |
| micahg | whatever the conventions are | 23:50 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: can you tell I haven't had a chance to look at it yet? | 23:50 |
| chrisccoulson | heh :-) | 23:50 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: k, so I want to file an AA bug once it's in to add it to the mozilla packageset as well as the gnome-pm extension, and drop miro does that sound ok? | 23:51 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, that should be fine | 23:51 |
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