[00:05] asac: ^^^ [00:06] fta: are you going to file the request for another lpia builder or shoudl I? [00:07] micahg, please do, i was about to leave [00:07] fta: k, have a good night [00:07] thanks [00:07] btw, i've committed the apport hooks to the daily branch [00:08] will need more testers, esp on stable releases [00:08] fta: cool, thanks [13:22] asac - i noticed you're still assigned to mozilla bug 467766. are you planning to add a test-case for that patch, or do you want me to take that? [13:22] Mozilla bug 467766 in Preferences: Backend "user settings for pref keys with defaults in extension get reset on upgrade" [Normal,Assigned] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=467766 [13:23] asac - same question for mozilla bug 460917 too :) [13:23] Mozilla bug 460917 in Plugin Finder Service "New plugins only recognized after restarting Firefox" [Major,Assigned] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=460917 [14:34] chrisccoulson, hi, if you have time, could you please test my apport hooks in the latest chromium? (python /usr/share/apport/package-hooks/chromium-browser.py) [14:35] fta2 - yeah, sure. is there anything in particular you want me to test for? [14:49] chrisccoulson, well, no assert, for one. and if the reported info match what you have, and if possible, ch v6 [14:50] i expect a few minor adjustments are needed [15:59] micahg, did you file the request for more lpia builders? [16:00] fta: yeah, the queue is under 24 hours, so the builds should finish today [16:00] chrisccoulson, did you have a chance to give my apport hooks a try? [16:00] fta - that's my next task :) [16:00] sorry, was just finishing with a gnome-terminal crasher [16:04] chrisccoulson: I'm pushing up Thunderbird 3.0.8 to thunderbird-stable since I haven't fixed the wrapper yet [16:04] micahg - cool, thanks. [16:08] urgh, so many updates to do..... [16:08] i think i will leave those for when i have more time :) [16:22] fta - the apport hook is working ok so far with the combinations i've tested. i'll try with ch 6 in a moment [16:29] good (so far) [16:37] doesn't work for v6 with a clean profile [16:40] ok, easy enough, fixed [17:06] fta - you fixed this one already?: [17:06] if 'check_default_browser' in entry['browser']: [17:06] KeyError: 'browser' [17:06] (with a clean profile) [17:07] yep, hold on a sec, i've also extended it to add the active plugin list [17:10] chrisccoulson, http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/chromium/chromium-browser.py [17:10] chrisccoulson: I'm also pushing FF4.0 b6 [17:10] fta - thanks [17:10] micahg - awesome :) [17:10] chrisccoulson: I'm not merging the test suite changes as I don't have time [17:11] micahg - no, those aren't important for that. the test-suite changes are really to catch regressions when i start trying PGO builds :) [17:11] hm, bug 529758 [17:11] Launchpad bug 529758 in baltix (and 2 other projects) "Extension to install a flash provider (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/529758 [17:13] fta - i think that was one of the things jcastro mentioned in his e-mail when explaining the reason for not switching to chromium on UNE [17:14] s/reason/reasons/ [17:15] hm, it's an old bug, why did i just receive an update? [17:15] oh, an upstream bug [17:15] fta - yeah, someone just added a link, and a baltix task as well [17:26] chrisccoulson, is the new version ok? [17:26] fta - just trying that now [17:27] fta - yeah, that's working ok now [17:31] hm.. for some reason, the plugins key is not populated until something is manually changed in about:plugins [17:34] fta - yeah, i see that too (on ch 6) [17:35] it's not my fault though, so it's fine as long as the hooks survive [17:35] fta - where is the "Default Plug-in" for chromium stored? (or is it actually compiled in?) [17:36] chrisccoulson, i guess it's built-in [17:37] fta - do you know if it's possible to build it as a real plugin? [17:38] chrisccoulson, there are 1 or 2 sample plugins doing nothing that are built but that i don't ship in the debs [17:43] ok, committed the new version [17:44] i still need to see a real bug report using it :P [17:45] also, i'm far from sure it works down to hardy [17:45] the apport api seems to be moving quite fast [17:51] chrisccoulson, do you have a hardy setup at hand? (to test the hooks) [17:51] fta - yeah, i have a hardy VM here [17:51] i can test that in 20 minutes or so if that's ok? [17:51] sure [19:51] kenvandine: ping [19:51] BUGabundo, pong [19:52] what do you need to check on gwibber? [19:52] Installed: 2.33.0~bzr864-0ubuntu1~daily1 [19:52] on Maverick 64bits [19:54] kenvandine: ^^^^ [19:54] logs [19:54] and what isn't working [19:54] no timeline updates [19:55] what logs you need? runtime debug? [19:55] one $ gwibber-service -d -o coming right up [19:56] ~/.cache/gwibber/gwibber.log [19:56] so none of your services are updating? [19:57] $ pastebinit ~/.cache/gwibber/gwibber.log [19:57] uploading a 3MB file [19:57] Gwibber Dispatcher: DEBUG Performing operation [19:57] Gwibber Dispatcher: DEBUG Adding record [19:57] Gwibber Dispatcher: DEBUG Finished operation [19:57] Gwibber Dispatcher: ERROR Twitter failure - {u'favorited': False, u'contribu [19:57] I only see a bunch of this [19:59] kenvandine: http://paste.ubuntu.com/497182/ [19:59] kenvandine: all timelines have been stalled for 3 days [20:01] interesting... are you using RTL? [20:01] not afaik [20:01] but my lang system seems to be wacky [20:02] could be related [20:03] oh [20:03] interesting [20:03] what is ? [20:03] so it is seeing content of a message as being RTL [20:03] and causing a traceback [20:03] * BUGabundo reinstalls lang packs and tries to fix _something_ [20:04] which is aborting the message [20:04] no... not that [20:04] seems content related [20:04] ahh [20:04] from some user? [20:04] yes. a friend posted some hacky encoded chars the other day [20:04] broke a few apps [20:04] let me get his timeline [20:05] well i think this exposed a bug in gwibber, of course :) [20:05] which is GREAT [20:05] http://twitter.com/hcarrega/status/24882953041 [20:05] i would never see it [20:05] mdeslaur, 6 times the same email for USN-989-1?? [20:05] kenvandine: that's why I'm talking to you :P [20:06] need it filed ? [20:06] fta: I didn't send it 6 times...your mail server is going haywire [20:06] BUGabundo, please file the bug [20:06] ahah [20:06] i am trying to fix now... but would be good to track it [20:06] what do you need me to write on it ? [20:07] failing to finish a refresh [20:07] post the log as the output [20:07] and put this traceback in the content [20:07] Traceback (most recent call last): [20:07] File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/gwibber/microblog/dispatcher.py", line 92, in perform_operation [20:07] m["rtl"] = util.isRTL(re.sub(text_cleaner, "", m["text"].decode('utf-8'))) [20:07] KeyError: 'text' [20:08] kenvandine: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/gwibber/+bug/643784 [20:08] Ubuntu bug 643784 in gwibber "failing to finish a refresh (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] [20:08] mdeslaur, nope, just checked, the issue is somewhere inside google [20:09] kenvandine: done [20:09] fta: ok [20:10] (i use my gmail address for those announces with a redirect to my own mail farm) [20:10] 1st time it happened in years [20:16] jdstrand, it seems that if no one asks for chromium to be explicitly on the agenda of the next t-b meeting, nothing will happen [20:17] maybe it's a lost cause, like in debian [20:17] BUGabundo, thx [20:17] kenvandine: my pleasure [20:17] gwibber may suck, but I still find it useful :p [20:17] :) [20:17] lets make it not suck :) [20:18] what? you gonna make it use <40MBs of ram? instead of 400? [20:18] use realtime? [20:18] upload pics? [20:18] support lists? [20:18] shall I continue ? ahah [20:18] I'll be happy if it just works, right now [20:18] lists work [20:19] upload pics... i am anxious for [20:19] its the only tool that can list my mentions from all networks [20:19] and show notifications of my timelines [20:19] realtime stuff from twitter will work in 3.0 [20:19] gwibber-service is using 26M for me... the client... we need to ditch webkit to make it smaller [20:19] which hopefully will happen next cycle [20:20] kenvandine: and statusnet... also has RT support [20:20] RT = realtime [20:20] it does? [20:20] ofc [20:20] i had heard they were working on it [20:20] that is ryan's area :) [20:21] 25756 72088 68 2151K 648.3M 131.5M 648.3M 131.5M 3% gwibber [20:21] that's not 26MBs [20:21] that isn't gwibber-service [20:21] the client needs to ditch webkit to get smaller [20:21] 24915 71322 31 2151K 405.6M 38004K 405.6M 38004K 1% gwibber-servic [20:22] for me the client is using 119M of RSS [20:22] yeah, 38M that is acceptable [20:22] wth [20:22] all of the sudden gwibber started working :S [20:22] although not sure why your's is that much more than mine... [20:23] my 26M of RSS includes facebook, twitter, statusnet, identica, foursquare, greader, and flickr accounts [20:23] :) [20:23] HUGE logs/DBs? [20:23] one identica, one statusnet, two twitter [20:23] nah, that shouldn't affect that [20:24] actually... maybe all those failures you have [20:24] and its pretty recent [20:24] maybe 1 month old [20:24] there might some lists that aren't getting freed [20:24] since they don't get inserted in the db [20:24] bbl, dinner [20:25] later [20:41] kenvandine, greader in gwibber? really? how does it look like? [20:46] fta, not great yet [20:46] i am experimenting with a branch someone else is maintaining [20:46] basically new feed entries appear in the message stream [20:47] i think they need to be separated, they don't feel "right" there imho [20:49] well, 140 char lines mixed with pages long articles, often with pictures and videos [20:50] weird idea [20:50] tweeter feeds into greader look weird too [20:50] i have one, it's plain ugly [21:50] micahg, 9 days :( https://edge.launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/dev/+packages [21:50] it keeps being pushed forward [21:53] fta: that's weird [21:55] fta: the build has been scored down :( [21:55] ?? [21:55] Start in 8 hours (2455) [21:55] why? they are no different from my other builds [21:55] should be 2505 [21:55] http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/ppa-dashboard/chromium-daily.html [21:56] ask in LP if someone scored the PPA down [21:57] kenvandine: look at http://seesmic.com/web/ [21:57] they know how to make it look great [21:57] micahg, there's no longer listening to me there :( [21:57] I would use it, if it supported statusnet [21:58] they do on the desktop app, but it runs on silverlight (blerg) [21:58] fta: I'll try asking later tonight [21:58] micahg, i'm not doing all that for myself, i'm doing it for the community. if it was only me, the dailies would be enough [21:59] fta: I know, I'll see if someone scored it lower [21:59] kenvandine: if you have 30 mins, ping me back. I have something I want to run by you [21:59] BUGabundo, shame! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Wanted/ChromiumDesktop [22:22] BUGabundo, humm... so what is it that seesmic web does right that gwibber doesn't [22:22] it actually seems pretty similar [22:23] buzz and greader [22:23] i don't see greader in there [22:23] how do i add that? [22:24] its on the Desktop version [22:24] not web [22:24] oh [22:24] ok [22:24] but what I wanted to ask you was [22:25] if you could use some of the know how of gwibber, and make an android app, to use with web.pond.pt [22:25] there's the API http://web.pond.pt/home?action=dev [22:25] they say they have an android app [22:26] i hadn't seen pond before [22:27] the app sucks [22:27] doesn't do a basic think like filter read items, like full web does [22:27] and the api has support for it [22:27] I've contacted the team several times, requesting just that [22:27] and been ignored so far :( [22:30] i wouldn't be of any help to get an android client done and gwibber isn't really suited for a phone yet [22:31] BUGabundo, how rich is pond's service as it relates to supporting service features? [22:31] like facebook and stuff [22:31] fb, twitte, flickr, and a few others [22:31] but they have a unique feature I would love twitter/SN had natively [22:31] read/unread state of notices [22:32] that is something i want to do in gwibber too [22:32] we can't ever browse older entries in gwibber [22:32] and gwibber is a desktop app [22:32] but like facebook... posting of images, etc [22:32] this is a web service [22:32] all works ok? [22:33] don't have a prob with it [22:33] but their android app is very week [22:33] we won't track all messages, but any message gwibber has downloaded i want to track if it is been seen [22:34] i also want to "star" or tag them somehow [22:36] which doesn't necessarily change any status on a server... so not super persistent [22:36] but on the client, you could have a way to always display starred messages [22:36] or something [22:36] so you can go back to them later when you have time or whatever [22:37] kind of like a save for later [22:38] I only use gwibber on this laptop [22:38] I use 3 other PCs, and my android [22:38] I need a _cloud_ something :\ [22:38] sure... not the average user :) [22:39] it would be nice if we had a way to do that in the cloud universally without yet another web service to complicate life [22:39] we do [22:39] ubuntu one ? [22:40] google app engine LOL [22:40] my goal is much simpler, just let you tag a message that looks interesting so you can go back in a bit to read it [22:40] doesn't need to be long lived [22:40] ubuntu one could be cool [22:40] but a lot of work :) [22:41] we need to focus on solving the 95% case first... and doing it well :) [23:46] micahg - do you think we should just re-use the former source package name for lightning (lightning-sunbird)? [23:47] chrisccoulson: if I didn't I wouldn't have wanted it dropped from Lucid ;) [23:47] *did [23:47] which was probably a mistake in retrospect [23:47] do you think lightning-calendar is ok? [23:47] or lightning-extension? [23:48] chrisccoulson: that's what I was thinking, or lightning-calendar [23:49] lightning-extension is the current package, so maybe that [23:49] yeah, i can use that [23:49] but the binary should probably be xul-ext-lightning-calendar or something to that effect [23:50] yeah, i've taken care of that already [23:50] whatever the conventions are [23:50] chrisccoulson: can you tell I haven't had a chance to look at it yet? [23:50] heh :-) [23:51] chrisccoulson: k, so I want to file an AA bug once it's in to add it to the mozilla packageset as well as the gnome-pm extension, and drop miro does that sound ok? [23:51] yeah, that should be fine