[06:19] <newshades> hello
[06:19] <holstein> hey
[06:19] <newshades> does anyone deal with pro audio here?
[06:20] <holstein> sure
[06:21] <newshades> Line 6 UX2 i have installed drivers but its still not turing on,,, do i have to do something with jack d?
[06:21] <holstein> hmmm
[06:21] <holstein> let me look around a minute
[06:21] <holstein> newshades: you gonna be here a bit?
[06:21] <newshades> yes
[06:23] <newshades> i have someone else coming in that is running it atm
[06:24] <holstein> cool
[06:24] <holstein> newshades: would you run aplay -l
[06:24] <holstein> and arecord -l
[06:24] <holstein> see if you see the line 6
[06:25] <newshades> in term
[06:25] <holstein> yup
[06:25] <holstein> dont paste it here
[06:25] <holstein> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[06:25] <holstein> if you need to paste it for me
[06:26] <newshades> im a dos boy thats falling in love with ubuntu but im a little slow
[06:26] <holstein> AH
[06:26] <holstein> cool :)
[06:26] <dynosaur> dyno@epenquin:~$ aplay -l aplay: device_list:223: no soundcards found...
[06:27] <newshades> well i though i had drivers installled :P
[06:27] <newshades> thought
[06:27] <holstein> AH
[06:27] <holstein> well thats bad
[06:27] <holstein> newshades: did you read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=897596 ??
[06:28]  * holstein is on the phone for a bit :/
[06:28] <holstein> i'll be more helpful in a minute
[06:28] <holstein> :)
[06:31] <holstein> HEY
[06:32] <holstein> this looks promising
[06:32] <holstein> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-a-line6-guitarport-or-toneport-ux1-or-gx.html
[06:32] <newshades> ya we have gone though all that
[06:33] <newshades> i think i will have to bring it in work and have some of my linux buddys look at it
[06:34] <newshades> i have access to remote desktop tools also if need be
[06:34] <holstein> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/498766
[06:35] <holstein> newshades: either way
[06:35] <holstein> you should contact line6
[06:35] <Blank__> holstein, the firepod is still going well
[06:35] <holstein> so they no that you are interested in them supporting linux
[06:35] <holstein> Blank__: w00t
[06:35] <holstein> its nice right?
[06:35] <Blank__> definitely
[06:35] <holstein> preamps are very decent
[06:36] <holstein> plug and play :)
[06:36] <Blank__> :p
[06:36] <holstein> i think that thing is the most band for the buck
[06:36] <holstein> bang*
[06:36] <Blank__> yep
[06:36] <Blank__> i'd have to agree
[06:36] <newshades> i was looking at the firepod also as a secondary device
[06:36] <holstein> newshades: SO what have you done so far?
[06:37] <holstein> newshades: secondary?
[06:37] <newshades> meaning will have to buy it
[06:37] <holstein> you'll have that line6 on ebay ;)
[06:37] <newshades> the ux2 was freed
[06:37] <newshades> free
[06:37] <holstein> i hear you
[06:38] <newshades> i have access to linux programmers but right now they are on manditory lock down till new version of AVG comes out
[06:39] <holstein> cool
[06:39] <holstein> newshades: what have you done so far?
[06:39]  * Blank__ is having trouble with flash audio playback, again
[06:39] <newshades> ya me to on youtube only :(
[06:39] <holstein> newshades: when you boot up the computer, is the device turned on?
[06:39] <holstein> sometimes that matters
[06:40] <holstein> usually not for USB devices though
[06:40] <holstein> Blank__: 64bit?
[06:40] <newshades> its usb
[06:40] <Blank__> oh right, my .asoundrc got rewritten on both of my computers >.<
[06:40] <holstein> newshades: still worth a try
[06:40] <holstein> newshades: where did you get the drivers?
[06:40] <holstein> and what all have you done so far?
[06:41] <newshades> ive tryied it on ubutntu studio and ubuntu 10. following the ubuntugeek stuff i think i may roll back a few versions to see if i can get it working
[06:42] <holstein> newshades: ubuntustudio = ubuntu
[06:42] <Blank__> holstein, seems a recent package update reset my .asoundrc on both computers... what a pain
[06:42] <holstein> just with some packages added and removed here and there
[06:42] <holstein> same repos and all
[06:42] <holstein> Blank__: D'oh
[06:42] <newshades> welll studio is special
[06:42] <Blank__> so everything using alsa didn't work properly
[06:42] <holstein> hehe
[06:43] <holstein> Blank__: so whats the problem ;)
[06:43]  * holstein totally kidding
[06:43] <Blank__> ha
[06:43] <holstein> Blank__: you doing pulse to JACK ?
[06:43] <Blank__> yeah'
[06:43]  * holstein doesnt really need it for anything
[06:43] <Blank__> but i wasn't getting any audio at all
[06:44] <Blank__> flash needs alsa >.<
[06:44] <holstein> i havent really tried it
[06:44] <holstein> maybe if i need to route skype to JACK for something
[06:44] <holstein> i'll try it
[06:44] <holstein> Blank__: mumble is nice though
[06:44] <Blank__> blah, audio still not working
[06:45]  * Blank__ restarts jack
[06:45] <holstein> newshades: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-a-line6-guitarport-or-toneport-ux1-or-gx.html
[06:45] <holstein> ^^ so thats what you've done so far?
[06:46] <holstein> newshades: did you update?
[06:46] <holstein> i think you'll need to re do that for each kernel
[06:46] <holstein> newshades: if you did
[06:46] <holstein> you can boot into your older kernel
[06:46] <Blank__> phew
[06:46] <Blank__> got it
[06:47] <holstein> and we can get some sounds going :)
[06:47] <dynosaur> dyno@epenquin:~/line6linux/driver/trunk$ make ./set_revision.sh make -C /lib/modules/2.6.32-24-preempt/build CONFIG_LINE6_USB=m SUBDIRS=/home/dyno/line6linux/driver/trunk modules make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.32-24-preempt/build: No such file or directory.  Stop. make: *** [default] Error 2
[06:47] <holstein> Blank__: i knew you'd get it :)
[06:47] <Blank__> flash is still being painful but at least i can actually hear vlc
[06:47] <holstein> hmmm
[06:48] <holstein> /lib/modules/2.6.32-24-preempt/build: No such file or directory
[06:48] <holstein> thats where your hung up
[06:48] <holstein> looks like
[06:48] <dynosaur> yep
[06:48] <holstein> thats when you run
[06:48] <holstein> sudo make install ??
[06:50] <holstein> you can sudo mkdir /lib/modules/2.6.32-24-preempt/build
[06:50] <holstein> that'll give it the dir to write too
[06:50] <holstein> but i dont think thats the issue
[06:51] <dynosaur> dyno@epenquin:~/line6linux/driver/trunk$ sudo mkdir /lib/modules/2.6.32-24-preempt/build dyno@epenquin:~/line6linux/driver/trunk$
[06:51] <holstein> OIC
[06:51] <holstein> yeah
[06:52] <holstein> try
[06:52] <holstein> make
[06:52] <newshades> you know and this is why i like remote support it makes life so much easier :P
[06:52] <holstein> again
[06:52] <Blank__> holstein, a kill of npviewer and things are all good
[06:52] <holstein> Blank__: :)
[06:54] <newshades> doesnt ubuntu have RDP?
[06:54] <dynosaur> language barrier is driving me crazy , if just could unstand what this is sayin :_?
[06:55] <holstein> newshades: we got vino
[06:55] <holstein> and vinagre
[06:56] <holstein> i forget which is which
[06:56] <holstein> i use VNC to get to it
[06:56] <dynosaur> i agree, makes me wanna drink to that .....
[06:56] <newshades> its simple swodniw ....  i use screen connect and bomgar :P
[06:56] <holstein> applications - internet - remote desktop viewer
[06:57] <holstein> vino-preferences
[06:57] <holstein> thats the server side setup
[06:57]  * Blank__ uses vinagre a lot
[06:58] <holstein> i got it set up where i can just ssh mostly now
[06:58] <holstein> vinagre is cool though
[06:58] <holstein> i think tightvncviewer seemed more stable for me
[06:58] <newshades> ah....  i will need to set it up latter... after i got my NAS box i  dont remote into desktop much anymore
[07:00] <holstein> newshades: whats your NAS rig?
[07:00] <holstein> im just doing an ssh server for that too right now
[07:01] <newshades> Netgear Nas DUO
[07:02] <newshades> i access it from my htc evo for music :P
[07:02] <newshades> now that linux i can do :P
[07:03] <newshades> In love with android :)
[07:03] <holstein> yeah
[07:04]  * holstein has connectbot
[07:04] <holstein> theres a connectbot irssi too :)
[07:07] <holstein> newshades: so where are we with sudo make install?
[07:08] <newshades> oh cool thanks will have to play with that.... i should be able to ssh to the nas.
[07:10] <dynosaur> dyno@epenquin:~/line6linux/driver/trunk$ make ./set_revision.sh make -C /lib/modules/2.6.32-24-preempt/build CONFIG_LINE6_USB=m SUBDIRS=/home/dyno/line6linux/driver/trunk modules make[1]: Entering directory `/lib/modules/2.6.32-24-preempt/build' make[1]: *** No rule to make target `modules'.  Stop. make[1]: Leaving directory `/lib/modules/2.6.32-24-preempt/build' make: *** [default] Error 2 dyno@epenquin:~/line6linux/driver/t
[07:11] <dynosaur> using directions from here ----http://dasacc22.wordpress.com/2010/02/24/line-6-ux2-and-linux/
[07:13] <holstein> AH
[07:13] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=132477
[07:13] <dynosaur> dyno@epenquin:~$ svn co https://line6linux.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/line6linux Checked out revision 696. dyno@epenquin:~$ cd line6linux/driver/trunk dyno@epenquin:~/line6linux/driver/trunk$ make ./set_revision.sh make -C /lib/modules/2.6.32-24-preempt/build CONFIG_LINE6_USB=m SUBDIRS=/home/dyno/line6linux/driver/trunk modules make[1]: Entering directory `/lib/modules/2.6.32-24-preempt/build' make[1]: *** No rule to make ta
[07:13] <holstein> it might be that the stucture of that -preemt kernel is not hip to the way that script is trying to talk to it
[07:15] <holstein> Note: You will atlest have version 2.6.27.14
[07:15] <holstein> thats from that how-to
[07:15] <holstein> and we might be so far past that version now that its not going to work
[07:15] <holstein> hmmm
[07:15] <dynosaur> 2.6.32-24
[07:16] <newshades> you think we could roll back the kernnel?
[07:17] <dynosaur> ubuntu 10
[07:17] <holstein> yeah
[07:17] <holstein> but lets look at some other things for a sec
[07:17] <dynosaur> 04 LTS
[07:17] <dynosaur> ??? ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[07:18] <dynosaur> dyno@epenquin:~$ lsusb Bus 002 Device 005: ID 0e41:4151 Line6, Inc.  Bus 002 Device 004: ID 058f:9360 Alcor Micro Corp. 8-in-1 Media Card Reader Bus 002 Device 003: ID 046d:c505 Logitech, Inc. Cordless Mouse+Keyboard Receiver Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub dyno@epenquin:~$
[07:19] <holstein> http://www.tanzband-scream.at/line6/
[07:19] <holstein> lets look here for a bit ^^
[07:19] <dynosaur> sure ...
[07:19] <newshades> been there a few times
[07:19] <holstein> nah
[07:20] <holstein> i dont think thats going to cover that device :/
[07:20] <newshades> 2009-04-04 release
[07:21] <dynosaur> The most recent version of the driver----Checked out revision 696.
[07:21] <newshades> its downloading the driver from the repository
[07:22] <newshades> just not installing it
[07:23] <holstein> hmmm
[07:23] <holstein> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/498766
[07:23] <holstein> it would be nice to talk to that guy
[07:24] <holstein> https://launchpad.net/~gimp
[07:24] <holstein> "Compiling the toneport driver from source fixed the issue. Lucid seems to have the same problem. After my current lucid reinstall if I still have the issue I'll submit a bug report.'
[07:24] <dynosaur> Checked out revision 696. dyno@epenquin:~$ cd line6linux/driver/trunk dyno@epenquin:~/line6linux/driver/trunk$
[07:25] <holstein> so, both you guys see it when you run
[07:25] <holstein> lsusb
[07:25] <holstein> right?
[07:26] <holstein> i would say...
[07:26] <dynosaur> next cmd is "make " is when messes up .....   unless im suppose to add to that cmd??
[07:26] <holstein> try sending https://launchpad.net/~gimp a message about it
[07:26] <holstein> ALSO
[07:26] <holstein> try #opensourcemusicians
[07:27] <holstein> and the ubuntstudio mailing list is quite active
[07:27]  * holstein has got to crash
[07:27] <holstein> dynosaur, newshades
[07:27] <holstein> keep in touch though
[07:27] <holstein> if you can sort it out
[07:27] <holstein> i'll find someone who can :)
[07:27] <newshades> ok thanks for the info
[07:27] <dynosaur> want to give it flying lessons
[07:28] <dynosaur> sudo make instal
[07:28] <holstein> l
[07:28] <holstein> sudo make install
[07:28] <holstein> you can try that
[07:28] <holstein> its not going to hurt
[07:29] <dynosaur> dyno@epenquin:~/line6linux/driver/trunk$ sudo make install [sudo] password for dyno:  ./set_revision.sh make -C /lib/modules/2.6.32-24-preempt/build CONFIG_LINE6_USB=m SUBDIRS=/home/dyno/line6linux/driver/trunk modules make[1]: Entering directory `/lib/modules/2.6.32-24-preempt/build' make[1]: *** No rule to make target `modules'.  Stop. make[1]: Leaving directory `/lib/modules/2.6.32-24-preempt/build' make: *** [default] Err
[07:29] <holstein> it'll either build or it wont
[07:29] <holstein> but if you get errors in the make
[07:29] <holstein> i dont think it will complete :/
[07:29] <holstein> looks like its do-able though
[07:30] <newshades> ok so we just need to get the driver to install then
[07:30] <newshades> alright i know where i  need to go from here...
[07:31] <dynosaur> know where im goin...      time for me to crash too...
[07:31] <dynosaur> thx
[07:31] <dynosaur> gn.
[18:32] <prep> I'm needing some input on system specs/components playing nice with Ubuntu. Lenovo
[18:35] <holstein> prep: is it here ?
[18:35] <holstein> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Laptop/Lucid/Reports
[18:36] <holstein> theres a few lenovos
[18:36] <holstein> prep: you can run
[18:36] <holstein> lspci
[18:36] <holstein> and search by device
[18:36] <prep> on windoze boc at the moment.
[18:36] <holstein> prep: you can do that with the live CD
[18:36] <prep> has AMD now X2 probessor
[18:37] <holstein> thats my routine
[18:37] <holstein> i get a live CD
[18:37] <holstein> run lspci
[18:37] <holstein> aplay -l and arecord -l
[18:37] <holstein> see how everything works
[18:37] <holstein> google around a bit
[18:38] <prep> Ordering it from work, haven't seen one locally
[18:38] <holstein> OH
[18:38] <holstein> you havent bought it yet
[18:38] <holstein> you can get ubuntu machines from dell
[18:39] <holstein> and i think lenovo has a linux option
[18:40] <prep> This is a 11.6 netbook
[18:41] <holstein> you mean the screen size?
[18:41] <holstein> what is the model?
[18:42] <prep> Yes 2GB DDR3, expandable to 4.
[18:42] <holstein> i would just google, ubuntu 10.04 (the exact model #)
[18:42] <prep> Lenovo ThinkPad X100e
[18:44] <prep> http://justinsomnia.org/2010/02/ubuntu-on-a-lenovo-thinkpad-x100e/
[18:44] <holstein> yup
[18:44] <holstein> 64bit install
[18:45] <holstein> http://codedivine.wordpress.com/2010/05/13/lenovo-thinkpad-x100e-and-ubuntu-10-04/
[18:47] <prep> Seems like it
[18:47] <holstein> i like these guys too
[18:47] <holstein> http://www.system76.com/
[18:48] <prep> I'd love to support them, but no dual core netbooks yet
[18:49] <holstein> lol
[18:50] <holstein> i think we've wrapped back around to small notebook ;)
[18:50] <prep> Well i get wholesale on most models
[18:50] <prep> Why not get the better processors.
[18:51] <holstein> power
[18:51] <holstein> battery life
[18:51] <holstein> heat
[18:51] <holstein> size
[18:51] <holstein> why not just get a notebook, i say
[18:51] <holstein> not much bigger
[18:51] <holstein> and more reasonably priced for similar hardware
[18:51] <prep> May just do that.
[18:52] <holstein> yeah, the suped up netbook market is kinda strange
[18:56] <prep> I think I'm going to build an i3-i5 tower, buy a System 76 for net, work, etc
[18:56] <prep> where can I make sure all my components will be supported?
[18:57] <holstein> intel is pretty good about releasing info
[18:57] <holstein> you just gotta google, and ask
[18:57] <holstein> and save the reciepts ;)
[18:57] <prep> why ya gotta make me work so hard, it's monday
[18:57] <holstein> hehe
[18:58] <holstein> i wish intel made graphics cards
[18:58] <prep> me too
[18:58] <prep> this is the sexy case I want http://www.fractal-design.com/?view=product&category=2&prod=53
[18:59] <holstein> http://www.silentpcreview.com/
[18:59] <holstein> thats where i look for cases
[18:59] <holstein> IF it nees to be a studio box
[19:00] <holstein>     needs*
[19:01] <prep> they sale their test samples
[19:01] <holstein> fractal?
[19:03] <prep> they do have one on there, no silentpcreview
[19:03] <holstein> AH
[19:03] <holstein> nice
[19:12] <prep> hows NVIDIA with Ubuntu
[19:12] <astraljava> great
[19:12] <astraljava> I buy nothing else
[19:14] <prep> Do you have a tower?
[19:14] <astraljava> If by tower you mean a traditional desktop pc, then yes.
[19:15] <prep> did you build it?
[19:15] <astraljava> Sure did.
[19:16] <prep> What CPU did you use?
[19:17] <astraljava> I got an older Amd Athlon64 cheap ages ago.
[19:22] <prep> So these new i3's come with integrated video, how; does that work with Ubuntu?
[19:23] <astraljava> Generally Intel chips have good 2D, but poor 3D. What are you looking for?
[19:25] <prep> I better build decent if I decide to add a video DAW down the road
[19:26] <astraljava> You can always add a video card later if the integrated doesn't suit your needs.
[19:27] <prep> what confuses me, is Nvidia is branded under EVGA, MSI etc, what's the deal with that?
[19:28] <astraljava> Don't they make chips only, not full-blown cards?
[19:29] <prep> I thought that did, guess I'm wrong
[19:30] <astraljava> I'm not 100% on that either.
[19:31] <prep> looks like the geForce 9500 works well, that's a good card