[03:36] hi, I am having a problem where Xubuntu crashes, but I can still use the mouse [03:37] the mouse arrow still moves around the screen, but the menu's icons, ctrl-alt-f1, alt-f2, and everything else doesn't work [03:37] the only way to fix this is to unplug the power cord because the power button at the front doesn't even work [04:53] Anom01y: if you hold the power button in for five secs the comp will shutdown [11:51] Can anyone help me with this --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1577543 I've been trying to get help for days but i've got no help yet. Help Me plz i'm stuck! [11:53] "don't use wubi" [11:59] :/ [11:59] i use wubi on my desktop and a dedicated partition on my laptop for ubuntu [12:25] FusionX, did you test the live cd as i suggested? [12:25] yes worked fine [12:25] but it was a little slow [12:25] FusionX, "don't use wubi" [12:26] " i use wubi on my desktop and a dedicated partition on my laptop for ubuntu" [12:26] i can't partition my C: drive [12:26] FusionX, yes, but the fix for your problem is not using wubi [12:27] knome: the problem is that i have a 4 GB pendrive in which i can install xubuntu but my BIOS is old and doesn't support booting with USB [12:27] and i don't want to partition my C: drive [12:28] there should be a solution i think [12:28] FusionX, if it's important and you necessarily do not want to partition you HD, you can create a grub cd which can load usb drivers and then boot with your usb stick [12:28] there is no tutorial for that afaik, but that's doable [12:29] doable? [12:29] "you can do it" [12:29] im a linux newbie so i might mess up the hard disk [12:29] i'd rather cut partition to xubuntu than do that [12:29] like last time when i tried installing ubuntu on my laptop i messed up the windows bootloader [12:30] me too, it's not nice to boot a cd to be able to boot a usb stick [12:30] knome : will it affect the performance? [12:30] FusionX, no, the os is still run from the usb disk [12:31] FusionX, the grub cd is there only to load the usb drivers so you can "boot" from usb even if you bios did not support that [12:31] *your [12:31] ik but loading the drivers from a "cd" could affect the performance. i'm not sure tho ?_? [12:32] knome if there's any tutorial for how to do it can u plz link it to me? [12:32] maybe a bit, and the boot would be slower, yes [12:32] FusionX, as i said, there is no tutorial for that afaik [12:32] FusionX, and it's not for "newbies" either [12:32] :[ [12:32] FusionX, you will have to know what you are doing [12:32] FusionX, those are your options. [12:33] i may give it a try though, i'm not so much of a noob [12:33] them you might as well repartition the drive, really [12:34] that is the best and suggested and should be the preferred way [12:34] knome : but currently as a solution it will help but there should be a solution to fix the error with wubi [12:34] there is masses of tutorials for HD repartitioning [12:34] FusionX, file a bug and wait N days. [12:35] ok [12:35] thanks alot knome! [12:35] FusionX, np. good luck. [12:42] im confused why menu editor is installed when it says "an implementaion of the freedesktop specification for gnome" [12:43] i have xubuntu [12:45] !pure xubuntu [12:46] !purexubuntu [12:46] xubuntu menu is freedesktop compatible [12:46] (/msg ubottu purexfce) [12:47] so is it suppose to come with xfce? [12:47] or whatever xubuntu is suppose to be [12:47] !purexfce [12:47] If you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce » [12:49] ok so i guess its suppose to be there [12:49] im just confused about it [12:52] does xfce still rely on gnome? [12:53] what do you mean? [12:53] why does it have a gnome system monitor? [12:53] xfce devs think it's cool? [12:53] *xubuntu [12:53] not xfce [12:53] * jrmy is so confused [12:54] right when i think ive figured it out i realized i havent [12:54] xubuntu developers decide what programs come with xubuntu, some of them have gnome dependencies [12:54] xfce programs shouldn't have [12:55] ok [12:55] xfce is xfce4+xfce4-goodies, xubuntu-desktop is more [12:57] well i just wanted something light weight seeing as my laptop has low mem [12:57] how much? [12:57] 256MB + 128MB [12:57] i wonder if the memory is good [12:57] i havent tested them yet [12:58] hope not [12:58] that "minimal xubuntu" might run ok [12:58] if you don't have chromium with hundred tabs [12:59] wait that slows it down :O [12:59] lol jk [12:59] what is chromium btw ive only used fire fox [13:01] browser [13:01] that would be obvious [13:01] what makes it chromium [13:01] !chromium [13:01] You can get testing builds for Chromium at https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa [13:02] !info chromium [13:02] chromium (source: chromium-bsu): transitional dummy package for chromium-bsu. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.14-1 (lucid), package size 13 kB, installed size 40 kB [13:02] !info chromium-browser [13:02] chromium-browser (source: chromium-browser): Chromium browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.0.472.53~r57914-0ubuntu0.10.04.1 (lucid), package size 12546 kB, installed size 42252 kB [13:06] whats the difference with google chrome? [13:06] is chromium just as fast? [13:07] open source [13:08] would you recommend it over firefox? [13:09] i don't think that either chromium or firefox would be the best browser for lwer-end pc's [13:10] well if its just as nice as firefox but actually lets me watch video without lag then sure i'll take that browser [13:10] probably not. [13:11] its kinda sad when youtube lags [13:11] even though it has nothing to do with my download rate [13:11] i can have the whole video downloaded yet it still lags [13:12] flash vs html5? [13:12] what now? [13:12] what is html5? [13:13] ..alternative for flash, works well on chromium, not taht well on FF, better on linux than flash [13:14] hmm... [13:14] ok [13:15] i wonder if i can get a laptop for $500 with a 512MB graphics card [13:15] probably yes [13:16] im confused why computers are made with gigs for video when most games only need 512 at max [13:17] only game i know that has 512 as a requirement is starcraft2 [13:17] and i dont think ill be playinhg that anyways, dont care for rts as much [13:17] that and more then a dual core [13:17] #xubuntu-offtopic for non-support talk please [13:18] oh... [13:18] sorry [13:18] no problem [13:18] (requirements for maximum vs. minimum and today vs. tomorrow) [13:18] Sysi, grr :P [13:19] fine i wont add a comment to that [13:21] i dont liek the image viewer that comes with xubuntu. is the one that comes with ubuntu bulky? i think i like that one more [13:22] risterro i think its called doesnt show GIF images very well [13:23] and how do i make a new image viewer the default? [13:25] ok its called ristretto [13:26] i'd use it but there is no obvious way to rotate images and change to the next without having to use the mouse [13:28] space and in menu is [13:28] what? [13:28] space switches to next [13:28] oh [13:28] i've rotated images from menu [13:28] ok [13:29] well only if it didnt have problems with gif [13:29] you can try ubuntu's one, idk what it is [13:29] yeah i cant remember either [14:09] i had lucid for about 2 weeks and had to reinstall due to panels that would not stick no matter what? [14:10] noone anywhere could give me a solution...none of the terminal command stuck. [14:10] so i reinstalled and this time tried ext3 [14:10] i cant believe it [14:12] does it work now then? [14:13] well i just reinstalle dyesterday [14:14] so far so good [14:14] okay. hard to say what went wrong since you are not running the broken system anymore. [14:14] wut a nightmare [14:14] yes, there are bumps sometimes.. [14:14] like when traveling with airplane [14:14] the terminal commands worked until i rebooted [14:15] as i said earlier, it's probably just about the panel not being in the session [14:15] for reason or another [14:15] i did read this whole ext4 thing may be a big pipe dream too in the ubuntu [14:16] it was sluggish [14:16] and quirky, just weird overall [14:17] im not gonna mess wit hthe TI driver anymore either [14:17] ati driver* [14:19] so hows it goin knome its me balsaq using my new nick specially formulated for when im in a buntu channel [14:19] well, it's okay. there's going to be a new theme in maverick, called bluebird [14:19] 1010 already huh [14:19] http://shimmerproject.org/projects/bluebird/ [14:21] cool, do i dare install 1010 on one of my computers? [14:21] i dont want the entire desktop to disappear! [14:22] gotta a good feeling bout ole ext3 though...feels like home again. [14:23] i meant gnomes [17:02] hi there... i want to mount an *.iso-file but it doesn't work... help... http://pastebin.org/986278 [17:04] !iso [17:04] To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning. [17:05] leave out the -t bit [17:06] well_laid_lawn: "you must specify the filesystem type"... [17:06] does mount return that? [17:06] yes [17:07] lemme check it here [17:09] works fine here without the -t [17:09] http://pastebin.org/986515 - both versions.... [17:10] run dmesg in terminal - does it say the iso is 9660 - should be the last line [17:12] http://pastebin.org/986517 [17:15] try making a new folder in mnt to do this - sudo mkdir -v /mnt/something [17:16] no change... [17:17] k - for some reason mount thinks the fat file system is involved [17:18] line 13 - VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev loop0. [17:18] seems like a bad iso perhaps [17:19] try file /home/nicofs/Games/install/nfshs/nfs.iso [17:19] in terminal [17:19] "data" [17:20] anybody here that [17:20] 's on maverick? [17:21] nicofs: I get ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data from file [17:21] !maverick [17:21] Maverick Meerkat is the codename for Ubuntu 10.10, due October 2010 - Maverick is NOT released and NOT Stable, discussion and support in #ubuntu+1 [17:21] ochosi: ^^ [17:22] so presumably the *.iso is corrupted... [17:22] seems so [17:22] nicofs: any reason that the fat file system would be involved? [17:22] well_laid_lawn: what exactly are you insinuating? i know what maverick is... [17:23] discussion and support in #ubuntu+1 [17:23] ochosi: ^^ [17:23] was saying it straight out [17:23] well_laid_lawn: well... i converted a *.cue to *.iso in windows... maybe the resulting iso works just there... [17:24] well_laid_lawn: i'm not sure whether joining an overcrowded channel of mostly ubuntu users asking for xubuntu-users experience is a good idea [17:25] ochosi: you don't seem too bright - I'll put you on ignore then :] [17:26] nicofs: afaik it should be fine anywhere if it was made right... [17:29] hmm... thanks anyway... no time and energy to solve that now... [17:29] k :] [19:18] can someone help me with this error when playin dvd's--x11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)-- please thanks.. [19:21] knome: i fixed my problem, actually the problem was -> http://ubuntu-ky.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9819880#post9819880 [19:24] but dammit i already uninstalled it [19:24] >:/ [19:25] what problem did you have? [19:28] jose__: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9867153#post9867153 [19:28] thx.. ill check it out [19:38] so who knows how to make shortcut keys for volume up down and mute? [19:39] since switching to xubuntu i have no idea how to do so [19:40] You set the shortcut in settings -> Xfce4 Settings Manager -> Keyboard [19:40] Do have the keys on your keyboard? [19:41] Down volume - aumix -v-10 ; Up volume - aumix -v+10 ; Mute - aumix -v0 [19:42] are the settings I use [19:42] i think xubuntu default is: amixer set Master/PCM 10% [19:43] 10%+/- [19:46] charlie-tca: i have it where i push Fn then pgup, pgdn, and home [19:46] but they dont work normally so i'd want to create the short cuts [19:48] ok so how do i add a nex shortcut for the command of volume up, down, and mute? [19:48] new* [19:56]

You set the shortcut in settings -> Xfce4 Settings Manager -> Keyboard [19:56] Application shorcuts tab [20:00] ok so volume up down and mute are applications? [20:01] i need to know the commands for each of theses [20:03]

Down volume - aumix -v-10 ; Up volume - aumix -v+10 ; Mute - aumix -v0 [20:04] For Down volume, the shortcut would be aumix -v -10 [20:04] The key you are adding is the key on your own keyboard that is used "For Down volume" [20:05] aumix is the app [20:06] ok so when i type in the command to add it do i include the spaces? [20:06] yes [20:06] ok [20:06] oh, no space after the -v [20:07] ok i didnt do that [20:09] ok so if i wanted to have it increase slower or faster with the volume up and down i'd just change the number, correct? [20:09] or decrease* [20:11] correct [20:12] ok [20:13] thanks [20:17] You are welcome [20:35] is there a xfce music player? [20:35] exaile [20:36] thats it? [20:36] That's it. What's wrong with it? [20:37] dont know how to get it to play spc files nor does it minimize to the system tray [20:37] vlc ftw too bad none of the skins ever work right [20:37] other then that nothing [20:38] um, goto Edit -> Preferences -> Appearance, Show tray icon is not checked by default, afair [20:38] first i have to reinstall it [20:39] It should be installed by default in Xubuntu [20:39] but i dont know how to make it use the spc library [20:39] i uninstalled it [20:39] I don't know spc [20:39] its the native of the snes [20:39] theyre sorta liek awesome midi [20:39] Maybe use vlc for them? [20:40] or install rythmbox? [20:40] i guess rhythmbox coudl work too [20:40] could* [20:40] does vlc minimize to the tray? [20:40] vlc plays video as well right? [20:41] yup [20:41] yes [20:41] if so why have 2 different media players when i could just use one and save space [20:41] I don't know if it minimizes to the tray [20:41] yes [20:41] i use it everyday [20:42] I use vlc for dvd's and exaile for everything else. Exaile is just much easier for me === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === SuperHark is now known as MichealH [22:43] hi all. what program should i use for instant messaging ? [22:43] what protocols do you use [22:43] icq and msn [22:43] MSN, IRC, Google Talk, etcetera [22:44] well most IM programs for Linux are all-in-one solutions [22:44] ok which one is the default for xubuntu? [22:44] so i guess just have a poke around in the Software Center [22:44] is there no default for xubuntu? [22:44] no idea [22:44] maybe Empathy? [22:44] There is pidgin [22:44] it's the default for Ubuntu [22:44] default in Xubuntu [22:45] yeah, pidgin will work fine [22:45] pidgin xubuntu empathy ubuntu [22:45] ok thank you all :D [22:45] i think empathy sucks for the most part [22:45] havent tried pidgin [22:45] it's not very flash for MSN [22:45] but i only used empathy for irc [22:45] but i mostly use IRC anyway so that's all covered by Xchat2 [22:45] yeah, empathy sucks for IRC [22:46] xchat is win imo [22:46] what i be usin right now [22:46] i'd use irssi however cause i liek terminal stuff but i dont know how to use it effectively [22:46] yeah i moved from Konversation to XChat2 and there's no reason for me to go back [22:46] btw xchat2? [22:46] why the 2? [22:47] because it's the second version? [22:47] oh.. i might be using a latter version [22:47] latest is 2.8.9 [22:47] didnt know of such things [22:47] i wonder whats different [22:48] only thing i'm missing in it is graphical emoticons [22:48] which i think can be added, but i'm too lazy [22:48] never used emoticons [22:48] i think theyre dumb [22:48] mostly handy for me because i frequent channels with a lot of goons [22:49] so being able to understand what some of their obscure emoticons are helps ;) [22:49] how do i add pidgin to autostart in xubuntu? [22:49] ah [22:49] autostart never used it but i think its easy [22:50] i know how to with gnome [22:50] aka ubutnu [22:50] yea [22:50] ubuntu* [22:50] Settings > Session And Startup [22:50] Application Autostart tab, then Add if it's not in the list [22:50] ok where is "Settings"? [22:50] see like i said [22:51] applications up at top [22:51] lol sorry i cant find it in [22:51] for me it's at the top of the mouse menu [22:51] yeah click it [22:51] but then i'm running some weird hybrid of Ubuntu and Xubuntu here so things are all over the place [22:51] applications > settings > xfce settings manager [22:52] i found it thank you [22:52] lol [22:52] i think i have 10.10 [22:52] or whatever the newest is [22:52] 10.04 [22:52] oh [22:52] then that [22:52] don't think 10.10 will be out for another few weeks yet [22:52] i have 10.10 aswell [22:53] i used sudo apt install whatever then followed instructions on how to make it pure xubuntu [22:53] 10.10 should be out on 10/10/2010 [22:54] date of my wedding [22:54] i definitely see a difference in resource usage between ubuntu and xubuntu [22:54] oh yeah [22:55] xubuntu only uses half of my ram [22:55] i'm using about 100-200mb less RAM on average doing the same thing under Xubuntu [22:55] for non-support talk, please use #xubuntu-offtopic [22:56] ironic since this is about xubuntu [22:56] "xubuntu-offtopic" [22:56] it's not ironic, this is a support channel [22:56] with no-one to support right now [22:57] that doesn't change the thing, really. [22:58] nofunallowed.jpg then [22:58] oh well [22:58] * Dasleah shuts up [22:58] thats why i talk in my loco channel [22:58] its ubuntu however [22:59] where can i find out about xchat then? [23:00] i'd assume this is an inappropriate place to ask [23:00] xchat.org [23:00] or it's in the Software Centre [23:01] No, this is not an inappropriate place to ask that question [23:01] xchat is by default in xubuntu so it's not offtopic [23:01] really? [23:01] i did not know that [23:01] and talk about the amount of ram saved is also appropriate in this channel [23:02] talk, but not random chatterish thing, imo [23:02] see i can understand that policy in a high-activity channel, sure [23:03] but there's like less then 60 people in here and us just chatting friendly about tangential-related things is the most active i've seen it all week [23:03] it all seems relevant imo if it has to do with xubuntu and by doing so gains knowlegde of xubuntu more so [23:04] how is this non-supportive? [23:04] it's not like if anyone were to ask a support question we'd tell them to bugger off or anything so a little harmless casual chatting doesn't ruin anything [23:04] the policy is the same for all then channels [23:05] Dasleah, jrmy: sorry, i was just acting before we went totally offtopic. memory usage conversation is okay, but if it's just casual chatting style, i personally think it's not that valuable/necessary [23:05] talking about dropping/switching several applications and gaining on memory or tweaking stuff is okay, imo [23:06] and i think that for an IRC channel of this size and relative low popularity, fostering a friendly community where people can feel they can chat about things that aren't strictly on-topic 100% of the time is valuable / necessary [23:06] but i can understand where you're coming from [23:07] and at that stand point i dont really want to come here for help [23:07] doesnt come off as friendly [23:07] i understand your point as well, and some friendly 'hey's are okay really, but from experience, stuff like memory usage and/or tweaking easily goes off-topic [23:08] well dont be suprised if less people come here [23:08] im just one person [23:08] jrmy, i'm sorry you've had that impression [23:08] but im not sure how other people will take it [23:09] #xchat [23:09] !guidelines [23:09] The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines [23:09] jrmy, those guidelines apply all channels, including #xubuntu, and you agree them on joining [23:09] But those guidelines have always been looser enforced in Xubuntu channels than in Ubuntu channels [23:10] and in both my loco team channel and another ive been in its rarely been that we have to on topic unless a question arises [23:10] charlie-tca, true, but that doesn't mean we are not following them at all [23:10] loco channels are not "official channels" [23:10] or what the term again is... [23:10] knome: I saw nothing that far off that guidelines were not being followed "at all". [23:10] charlie-tca, core channels? [23:10] ok so what is #ubuntu-us-pa and #ubuntu-us-mi? [23:11] this damn msn since the beginning it says my email address is not verified and i dont know how i can resend the confirmation eMail [23:11] perhaps i was mislead on loco? [23:11] !language | freaky[t] [23:11] freaky[t]: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [23:11] jrmy, local community. those channels are exactly loco channels. [23:11] sorry [23:11] jrmy, eg. not core support channels [23:11] oh [23:11] im german what should i have said instead? [23:12] i know the word you mean [23:12]