[01:38] <wgrant> Where would I file a bug about the panel configuration in the installer?
[01:38] <hggdh> ubuiquity?
[01:38] <hggdh> or debian-installer
[01:39] <wgrant> It's the panel config used around Ubiquity, though. Not Ubiquity itself.
[01:42] <hggdh> oh. Then I am sorry, I do not know.
[01:56] <charlie-tca> wgrant: file it against ubiquity and it will get moved to the right place. Ubiquity or casper handles pretty much everything to do with installer
[02:00] <wgrant> charlie-tca: Thanks.
[06:52] <kaushal> hi
[06:52] <kaushal> how can i start helping in fixing bugs
[06:52] <micahg> kaushal: this is the wrong place to 'fix' bugs, we 'triage' in here :)
[06:52] <kaushal> ok
[06:52] <micahg> kaushal: would you like to start with that? or are you set on 'fixing'?
[06:53] <kaushal> start with
[06:53] <micahg> kaushal: k :)
[06:53] <kaushal> actually to be precise
[06:53] <kaushal> micahg: please guide
[06:53] <micahg> kaushal: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage
[06:53] <kaushal> Triage means ?
[06:54] <micahg> kaushal: triage is making sure there is enough information in a bug for the developers
[06:54] <kaushal> micahg: ok
[06:54] <kaushal> so do i need to register myself ?
[06:55] <micahg> kaushal: you can request a mentor here: https://edge.launchpad.net/~bugsquad-mentorship
[06:56] <kaushal> micahg: what does it mean ?
[06:56] <kaushal> please help me understand
[06:56] <micahg> kaushal: someone to one on one guide you
[06:56] <kaushal> oh ok
[06:56] <micahg> kaushal: but you can always feel free to ask questions in here
[06:57] <kaushal> micahg: so its a best place
[06:57] <kaushal> right
[06:58] <micahg> kaushal: yeah, that's what we do in here, triage
[07:01] <kaushal> micahg: you motivated me :D
[07:01] <kaushal> appreciate it
[07:02] <kaushal> micahg: also if i want to fix the bugs is it easy to do ?
[07:03] <micahg> kaushal: that depends on your abilities, I don't want to discourage you from fixing as well
[07:03] <micahg> that's harder to mentor
[07:06] <kaushal> micahg: so what all programming languages to be known ?
[07:07] <kaushal> to help in fixing the bugs ?
[07:07] <micahg> kaushal: python, C, C++, Java, Ruby, PHP, just about anything
[07:07] <kaushal> ok
[07:07] <kaushal> thats a lot :(
[07:08] <micahg> kaushal: any of them are fine :)
[07:08] <kaushal> ok
[08:32] <vish> !tags
[08:32] <ubot2> We use some common tags for tracking bugs on Launchpad.net See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Tags for common usage.
[08:33] <vish> !tags-#ubuntu-bugs is <reply> We use some common tags for tracking bugs on Launchpad.net See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Tags for common usage.
[08:33] <ubot2> vish: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[08:34] <vish> hrm!
[08:35] <vish> !tags-ubuntu-bugs is <reply> We use some common tags for tracking bugs on Launchpad.net See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Tags for common usage.
[08:35] <ubot2> vish: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[08:35] <vish> arg! :(
[08:35] <nigelb> !tags-ubuntu-bugs is <reply>We use some common tags for tracking bugs on Launchpad.net See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Tags for common usage.
[08:35] <ubot2> nigelb: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[08:35] <vish> !tags-#ubuntu-bugs <reply> We use some common tags for tracking bugs on Launchpad.net See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Tags for common usage.
[08:35] <ubot2> vish: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[08:35] <nigelb> ok, genuinely problematic
[08:35] <vish> stupid bot!
[08:35]  * nigelb kicks ubot2 
[08:36] <nigelb> !factoids
[08:36] <ubot2> Hi! I'm #ubuntu-bugs's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots
[08:36] <micahg> vish: he's already claimed that title :)
[08:44] <vish> !tags is <reply> We use some common tags for tracking bugs on Launchpad.net See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Tags for common usage.
[08:45] <vish> ah, it turned out to be not -bugs specific
[08:46] <vish> !tags
[08:46] <ubot2> We use some common tags for tracking bugs on Launchpad.net See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Tags for common usage.
[08:46] <vish> oh its will take a bit of time to sync! ;)
[09:37] <vish> !tags
[09:37] <ubot2> We use some common tags for tracking bugs on Launchpad.net See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Tags for common usage.
[09:38] <vish> \o/
[10:01] <njm> Hey Guys, since I updated my Ubuntu 10.04 Remix on my netbook, my 3G USB Dongle doesn't work anymore...  It says: waiting for usb device to settle in dmesg.  Any ideas?
[13:56] <persia> zyga, You might try apport-collect on an existing bug also, or to grab the bug details, and run apport-retrace locally
[13:56] <zyga> persia, I'll reproduce the bug and see if I get a full backtrace this time
[13:56] <zyga> yes!
[13:57] <zyga> pretty
[13:57] <persia> zyga, The nice thing about apport-retrace is that it automatically calculates the correct set of ddebs to install :)
[13:57] <zyga> persia, is there a way to use apport when using gdb directly on the crashed program?
[13:58] <persia> I'm not sure.  When I can't figure it out from reading the stacktrace, I'll usually run apport-retrace locally first, and then just use gdb (as the symbols are now all available)
[13:58] <persia> But to be honest, if I can't figure it out from the stacktrace, I usually find another bug to fix :)
[14:01] <hggdh> zyga: if you are GDB-ing a programme, and it crashes, apport will *not* get kicked
[14:02] <hggdh> and to make more clear what persia said: (1) sudo apport-retrace -o trash <crashFile> <- this will install any needed dbgsym packages;
[14:03] <hggdh> (2) after (1) finishes: apport-retrace -g <crashFile> <- this will start GDB on the crash
[14:04] <hggdh> and... morning persia :-)
[14:05] <persia> hggdh, Thanks: I shouldn't assume people read manpages as much as I do :)
[14:09] <zyga> thanks guys, I de-duped this problem and added some notes
[14:10] <kamusin> :)
[15:28] <bcurtiswx_> can i apt-get source a lucid package from maverick?
[15:30] <persia> bcurtiswx, Yes, but it's tricky.
[15:30] <bcurtiswx_> hmm, i will just steal it from LP then.. thx persia
[15:30] <persia> Options: 1) change "maverick" to "lucid" on your deb-src lines in sources.list
[15:31] <persia> 2) add duplicate lucid deb-src lines, and pass the version to apt when requesting the download
[15:31] <persia> 3) create a lucid schroot in maverick, and grab it inside the schroot
[15:31] <persia> Personally, I use 3) because it's handy to have schroots around for testing anyway.
[15:32] <bcurtiswx_> i can pbuilder-lucid it
[15:32] <bcurtiswx_> or at least, im more used to that
[15:32] <persia> There you go then :)
[15:33] <persia> Just login to your pbuilder chroot, apt-get source somewhere bind-mounted, and have at it.
[15:39] <bcurtiswx_> persia, thx again :)
[15:50] <hggdh> there is pull-lp-source also: pull-lp-source whatever lucid
[16:09]  * bcurtiswx_ hugs hggdh
[18:27] <AbhiJit> hello
[18:34] <AbhiJit> hello
[18:34] <AbhiJit> in this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/644536 what does he mean by 'passing' to browser? because copy pasting is not re producing the error.
[18:34] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 644536 in evolution (Ubuntu) "truncates long clickable URL links (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[18:34] <vish> AbhiJit: i can confirm that bug.. ;)
[18:35] <AbhiJit> no :(
[18:35]  * AbhiJit wants to confirm!
[18:35] <AbhiJit> :(
[18:35] <AbhiJit> vish, can you reproduce that bug? how? what is 'passing to browser'?
[18:35] <vish> AbhiJit: lol, i meant i can see that bug happening..
[18:35] <vish> AbhiJit: you can confirm :)
[18:36] <AbhiJit> vish, yah but how can you reproduce that? copy pasting the urn from evlution to chromium is not reproducing that bug here!
[18:36] <vish> AbhiJit: if you have a long link in emails,esp in plain text mails, the email will cut the link in two lines, if you click the link evolution will only recognize the first line
[18:37] <vish> AbhiJit: its almost like pasting a very long link in irc..
[18:37] <AbhiJit> vish, yah i send one email to my gmail using the same long link in the bug and its not clickable. i need to copy paste but it was not truncated
[18:38] <vish> AbhiJit: "not clickable" is what the bug is about ;)
[18:38]  * vish reads again..
[18:38] <AbhiJit> vish, no it isnt
[18:39] <vish> AbhiJit: to me thats what the "passing off" means
[18:39] <vish> AbhiJit: you can ask a question and get that clarified :)
[18:39] <AbhiJit> vish, ok thanks!
[18:39] <vish> AbhiJit: btw, howz the mentoring going on.. ?
[18:40] <AbhiJit> vish, not going on. because not having commaon available online time. my college is full day and he is busy also thats why i came here to ask !
[18:40] <AbhiJit> :(
[18:41] <vish> AbhiJit: hmm.. what time is best for you now?
[18:41] <vish> maybe we can switch mentors..
[18:41] <AbhiJit> vish, sunday! one hour!
[18:41] <vish> AbhiJit: heh! no mentor for you! ;p
[18:41] <AbhiJit> ohh!!! :(
[18:41] <vish> j/k
[18:41] <AbhiJit> yah
[18:41] <AbhiJit> :)
[18:41] <vish> AbhiJit: just ask here when you have doubts ..
[18:42] <AbhiJit> vish, ok i wll
[18:43] <vish> AbhiJit: i'm kinda sure there must be a bug for that in evolution already..
[18:43] <vish> its been like that as long as i remember, so someone might have already filed a bug..
[18:43] <AbhiJit> vish, i see now actualy i am not doing anytihng to that bug because i ddnt understood it!!!
[18:44] <AbhiJit> also i cant reproduce it!
[18:46] <AbhiJit> ok vish m going to sleep! what about you?
[18:46] <vish> AbhiJit: i'm going to get up!
[18:47] <AbhiJit> :o
[18:47] <AbhiJit> vish, bye gn sd! :)
[18:47] <vish> bye..
[19:58] <hggdh> *very* nice: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/sep/21/password-security-cory-doctorow?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
[19:59] <hggdh> without the source tagging: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/sep/21/password-security-cory-doctorow
[20:09] <kamusin> Do you know where are the testcases now in qa tracker? I have been searching for example this http://pairwise.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/4550/486 but I can't find it
[20:09] <kamusin> ping aara!
[20:20] <hggdh> kamusin: have you tried the new site (http://qa.ubunutu.com)
[20:20] <kamusin> not yet, I have checked few minutes ago qa.ubuntu.com :P
[20:21] <kamusin> hehe
[20:21] <hggdh> duh. kamusin qa.ubuntu.com (mistyped)
[20:22] <kamusin> now our site looks like Angelina jolie
[20:25]  * micahg misses the sponsoring page
[21:01] <bcurtiswx_> bug watch updater = Helpdesk??
[22:10] <devildante> hggdh, the qa site looks great :)
[22:12] <hggdh> devildante: yes, ara & co. did a pretty good job
[23:13] <Guest71932> hi can i here report a bug about maverick merkat?
[23:15] <kklimonda> Guest71932: no, you should read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs - in brief use either Help->Report a Problem... or ubuntu-bug <package name>
[23:17] <Guest71932> i was register on that page, but dont now how and whre can i report a bug about bluetooth problem with kernel since 2.6.33
[23:19] <kklimonda> we've never had .33 kernel
[23:20] <Guest71932> it is not spezifik an ubuntu problem, all of linux distros have it on my laptop acer travelmate tm8571
[23:20] <kklimonda> if you think it's a kernel issue you can use ubuntu-bug linux
[23:20] <kklimonda> in this case you should report it upstream, http://bugzilla.kernel.org
[23:21] <Guest71932> i now in lucid is int a problem, but maverick m. daily cd of today and other distros since new kernle
[23:22] <Guest71932> i am wondering, my laptop is an linux laptop not windows