micahgchrisccoulson: what do you think about the flash packages?00:09
chrisccoulsonmicahg - which ones?00:10
micahgchrisccoulson: flashplugin-installer, gnash00:10
chrisccoulsonyeah, we could try00:10
micahgchrisccoulson: I think it's appropriate00:11
chrisccoulsonyeah, i think it makes sense00:11
micahgchrisccoulson: k, well, I'll file it after lightning is in00:11
micahgchrisccoulson: do you want me to look at the package tonight before you upload?00:11
chrisccoulsoni think i'll just get it uploaded before i go to bed00:12
chrisccoulsonwe can fix any issues if we find them00:12
micahgchrisccoulson: k, I'm sure it's fine00:12
ftachromium-browser                 77893   4.56%     14901   48053   14925      1400:18
ftagoogle-chrome-beta               77719   4.55%     12767   57963    6888     10100:18
micahgfta: congrats00:19
ftanext target is epiphany00:20
ftabut it will take a while00:20
micahgfta: how close?00:20
ftaepiphany-browser                165339   9.68%      6960  155851    2482      4600:20
ftaepiphany-gecko                   86989   5.09%       482   86206     268      3300:20
* micahg wonders why there's an epiphany-gecko package in maverick00:21
ftaepiphany-webkit                   4980   0.29%         4    3521       0    145500:22
micahgchrisccoulson: you see any reason why we can't drop the epiphany transitional packages?00:22
ftafor the upgrades00:23
micahgfta: in maverick?  they were added in karmic00:23
ftaoh, right. nm then00:24
chrisccoulsonmicahg - we probably could drop them, but i think epiphany is mostly in sync with debian00:24
chrisccoulson(with the exception of a bookmark change last time i checked)00:24
micahgchrisccoulson: we have Ubuntu changes00:25
micahgchrisccoulson: maybe I should do a merge?00:25
micahgchrisccoulson: we're 4 point releases behind00:26
chrisccoulsonyeah, that might be worth doing00:26
micahgchrisccoulson: should I ask in -desktop or just propose it00:26
* chrisccoulson wonders why we've not been tracking the unstable series for epiphany like the rest of gnome00:27
micahgchrisccoulson: doesn't exist from what I can tell00:27
micahgoh, nm00:27
chrisccoulsonmicahg - 2.31.5 is the current unstable version (for gnome 2.32)00:27
micahgit's very out of date, maybe that's why00:27
micahglast release was 2 months afo00:28
chrisccoulsonwe should probably update to 2.30.6 at least, anyway00:28
micahgchrisccoulson: k, I'll add it to my lis00:31
chrisccoulsonmicahg - thanks. perhaps ask didrocks tomorrow if he thinks it's worth updating to 2.31.500:31
micahgchrisccoulson: I'd personally think it's better to take the stable release unless there will be and we'll be updating to the 2.32.x release after release00:32
chrisccoulsonyeah, there'll be a 2.32 release, as it tracks the gnome release schedule00:32
micahgchrisccoulson: k, does that mean I can SRU 2.30.6 to lucid?00:32
chrisccoulsonpossibly. i think we relaxed the SRU criteria in lucid to make it easier to get gnome stable updates in00:33
chrisccoulsonbut you'd need to have a look at what changed between the 2 versions00:33
micahgchrisccoulson: k00:34
micahgchrisccoulson: epiphany has a ton of bugs in Debian00:34
chrisccoulsonheh :)00:34
micahgeven more than we have00:35
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eraany chance that chromium will have an ambiance theme for maverick?03:52
JanCif it's not in the repositories yet, I doubt it will04:19
micahgera: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/ubuntu-10-10-ambiance-radiance-themes-for-chrome-firefox-opera/04:34
micahghi chrisccoulson08:57
chrisccoulsonhi micahg08:58
micahgchrisccoulson: I took a look at the lightning package, I noticed that no mozclient is used to pull a tarball08:58
chrisccoulsonmicahg - yeah, that's ok for maverick. the old version didn't use it either08:59
chrisccoulsonwe can fix that once we've made it work with dh708:59
micahgchrisccoulson: right, but there should at least be instructions on where to get the tarball08:59
chrisccoulsonbut, in the meantime, i just used thunderbird to create the tarball, but with the lightning release tag08:59
micahgchrisccoulson: can you add a README.source that says that08:59
chrisccoulsonyeah, it should probably have instructions in there09:00
chrisccoulsoni'll push the packaging to bzr and we can do it there09:00
micahgchrisccoulson: so, do you want to do away with building a source in a separate tree09:01
chrisccoulsonmicahg - you mean, like with the embedded tarball we use for everything else?09:02
micahgchrisccoulson: yes, and build-tree/mozilla for the source decompression/build09:03
chrisccoulsonmicahg - the only reason i did it like it is for now is that there doesn't seem to be any native support for embedded tarballs in dh7 (although, we could add the logic to debian/rules ourselves, but that just makes things more complicated)09:04
chrisccoulsonand because we can use bzip compression for the tarballs anyway, it doesn't really matter too much09:04
micahgchrisccoulson: so you want to switch away from CDBS/dh mix to pure dh7?09:04
chrisccoulsonmicahg - we should eventually move to dh7 entirely if we can. now i've done lightning, i can see where some of the limitations might be ;)09:05
micahgchrisccoulson: k, I've seen some heated CDBS/dh discussions on some l.d.o lists09:07
chrisccoulsonoh, i'd be interested to see those ;)09:07
micahgchrisccoulson: pkg-multimedia has had a few recently09:07
chrisccoulsonthanks, i'll check them out09:08
micahgchrisccoulson: I tried gnash and it didn't work, but I think the issue was due to old build-deps, I'll try again with updated build-deps09:08
chrisccoulsonoh, it didn't build?09:09
micahgchrisccoulson: no, it built and installed and even with the correct alternative, but ubufox didn't recognize it, I was thinking it might have to do with the new binary package name09:10
chrisccoulsonhmmm, that seems a bit strange09:10
chrisccoulsonhave you hosted the merge anywhere?09:10
micahgwhen I set the alternative manually, it was recognized09:10
micahgchrisccoulson: no, but I can give you the debdiff from 0.8.8-509:11
chrisccoulsonyeah, i can take a look at that09:11
micahghttp://paste.ubuntu.com/497567/, I dropped the translation timestamp updates09:13
micahgchrisccoulson: it was at least recognized before the package name change, it just didn't work09:14
* micahg doesn't understand the pfs yet09:14
micahgchrisccoulson: I already have an FFe filed, but I needed to provide more info09:15
ftamicahg, did you try my script for the wiki?15:17
dpmhey chrisccoulson, on bug 632760 is someone looking into merging your patch to po2xpi?16:51
ubot2Launchpad bug 632760 in language-pack-pt (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Language variants don't work in Firefox because the language codes are separated with an underscore rather than a hyphen in chrome.manifest (affects: 1) (heat: 437)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/63276016:51
chrisccoulsondpm - i think pitti did it already17:22
chrisccoulsonyou might want to check with him though17:22
dpmchrisccoulson, I'll do, thanks!17:22
ftadpm, did you try my script for the wiki? i still see the old page for firefox :(17:30
dpmfta, I had a look at the script but I haven't had the chance to update the pages, as I have to check which FF and TB translations have been merged.17:31
dpmlet me try to do this in a few minutes17:31
* chrisccoulson wonders what on earth the PPA builders are doing18:01
chrisccoulsonlong queue, but half of them are idle18:01
chrisccoulsonoh, well, they were a minute ago :/18:03
ftachrisccoulson, it's because they are now doing the TranslationTemplatesBuildJobs18:05
ftaand they're really bad at balancing the traffic, seems like they do it only once every 15min so if they get a build that take less time, they stay idle until the next cycle18:06
ftaa real waste18:06
micahgchrisccoulson: fta: there a builder sprint ATM with 2 LP devs18:07
micahgfta: also, ch-dev/daily was scored down, I had them rescore18:08
ftamicahg, did they say why they did it?18:09
micahgfta: yeah, there were limited build resources before for lpia, so they lowered it for that arch18:09
ftaweird as that ppa has a low activity18:10
ftamuch lower than the other 418:10
micahgdaily has low activity?18:10
ftano, -dev18:10
micahgfta: people do silly things :)18:12
chrisccoulsonfta - yeah, i noticed that18:13
micahgThis PPA contains some packages built with precompiled vanilla builds  directly from Mozilla.  For the full source code please visit: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/18:13
chrisccoulsonyet another person who's just bundling pre-compiled firefox binaries18:13
micahgI think that might violate the PPA TOS, no?18:13
chrisccoulsonpossibly, i'm not entirely sure about that tbh18:13
chrisccoulsonif he breaks our installs, then i will poke him in the eyes with a blunt instrument18:13
micahgwell, I should send out an announcement later to the team ML18:14
micahgI posted to identi.ca yesterday18:14
micahgk, I'm off to work...bbiab18:14
dpmfta, I've just updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Wanted/FirefoxDesktop - your script worked perfectly except for getting the Generic Name and Comment headers on the table swapped. I need to run now, but I'll take care of the TB page tomorrow. Thanks!18:42
micahgchrisccoulson: can you have a look at mozilla 58097019:56
ubot2Mozilla bug 580970 in Theme "Tabs on top with Ubuntu Radiance and Ambiance looks less unified than it could" [Minor,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58097019:57
chrisccoulsonmicahg - yeah, i've already tried to find somebody involved with theming to comment on that20:11
chrisccoulsonno joy yet though20:11
micahgchrisccoulson: thanks20:11
gnomefreaki still cant get chromium to save passwords even with a new profile and having saved passwords and bookmarks imported21:19
gnomefreakand now thunderbird is back to being unable to connect to pop and smtp so now i cant get email nor send it.21:36
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