[00:09] chrisccoulson: what do you think about the flash packages? [00:10] micahg - which ones? [00:10] chrisccoulson: flashplugin-installer, gnash [00:10] yeah, we could try [00:11] chrisccoulson: I think it's appropriate [00:11] yeah, i think it makes sense [00:11] chrisccoulson: k, well, I'll file it after lightning is in [00:11] chrisccoulson: do you want me to look at the package tonight before you upload? [00:12] i think i'll just get it uploaded before i go to bed [00:12] we can fix any issues if we find them [00:12] chrisccoulson: k, I'm sure it's fine [00:18] chromium-browser 77893 4.56% 14901 48053 14925 14 [00:18] google-chrome-beta 77719 4.55% 12767 57963 6888 101 [00:18] \o/ [00:19] fta: congrats [00:20] next target is epiphany [00:20] but it will take a while [00:20] fta: how close? [00:20] epiphany-browser 165339 9.68% 6960 155851 2482 46 [00:20] epiphany-gecko 86989 5.09% 482 86206 268 33 [00:21] * micahg wonders why there's an epiphany-gecko package in maverick [00:22] epiphany-webkit 4980 0.29% 4 3521 0 1455 [00:22] chrisccoulson: you see any reason why we can't drop the epiphany transitional packages? [00:23] for the upgrades [00:23] fta: in maverick? they were added in karmic [00:24] oh, right. nm then [00:24] micahg - we probably could drop them, but i think epiphany is mostly in sync with debian [00:24] (with the exception of a bookmark change last time i checked) [00:25] chrisccoulson: we have Ubuntu changes [00:25] chrisccoulson: maybe I should do a merge? [00:26] chrisccoulson: we're 4 point releases behind [00:26] yeah, that might be worth doing [00:26] chrisccoulson: should I ask in -desktop or just propose it [00:27] * chrisccoulson wonders why we've not been tracking the unstable series for epiphany like the rest of gnome [00:27] chrisccoulson: doesn't exist from what I can tell [00:27] oh, nm [00:27] micahg - 2.31.5 is the current unstable version (for gnome 2.32) [00:27] it's very out of date, maybe that's why [00:28] last release was 2 months afo [00:28] *ago [00:28] we should probably update to 2.30.6 at least, anyway [00:31] chrisccoulson: k, I'll add it to my lis [00:31] *list [00:31] micahg - thanks. perhaps ask didrocks tomorrow if he thinks it's worth updating to 2.31.5 [00:32] chrisccoulson: I'd personally think it's better to take the stable release unless there will be and we'll be updating to the 2.32.x release after release [00:32] yeah, there'll be a 2.32 release, as it tracks the gnome release schedule [00:32] chrisccoulson: k, does that mean I can SRU 2.30.6 to lucid? [00:33] possibly. i think we relaxed the SRU criteria in lucid to make it easier to get gnome stable updates in [00:33] but you'd need to have a look at what changed between the 2 versions [00:34] chrisccoulson: k [00:34] chrisccoulson: epiphany has a ton of bugs in Debian [00:34] heh :) [00:35] even more than we have === JanC_ is now known as JanC [03:51] yo. [03:52] any chance that chromium will have an ambiance theme for maverick? [04:19] if it's not in the repositories yet, I doubt it will [04:34] era: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/ubuntu-10-10-ambiance-radiance-themes-for-chrome-firefox-opera/ [08:57] hi chrisccoulson [08:58] hi micahg [08:58] chrisccoulson: I took a look at the lightning package, I noticed that no mozclient is used to pull a tarball [08:59] micahg - yeah, that's ok for maverick. the old version didn't use it either [08:59] we can fix that once we've made it work with dh7 [08:59] chrisccoulson: right, but there should at least be instructions on where to get the tarball [08:59] but, in the meantime, i just used thunderbird to create the tarball, but with the lightning release tag [08:59] chrisccoulson: can you add a README.source that says that [09:00] yeah, it should probably have instructions in there [09:00] i'll push the packaging to bzr and we can do it there [09:01] chrisccoulson: so, do you want to do away with building a source in a separate tree [09:02] micahg - you mean, like with the embedded tarball we use for everything else? [09:03] chrisccoulson: yes, and build-tree/mozilla for the source decompression/build [09:04] micahg - the only reason i did it like it is for now is that there doesn't seem to be any native support for embedded tarballs in dh7 (although, we could add the logic to debian/rules ourselves, but that just makes things more complicated) [09:04] and because we can use bzip compression for the tarballs anyway, it doesn't really matter too much [09:04] chrisccoulson: so you want to switch away from CDBS/dh mix to pure dh7? [09:05] micahg - we should eventually move to dh7 entirely if we can. now i've done lightning, i can see where some of the limitations might be ;) [09:07] chrisccoulson: k, I've seen some heated CDBS/dh discussions on some l.d.o lists [09:07] oh, i'd be interested to see those ;) [09:07] chrisccoulson: pkg-multimedia has had a few recently [09:08] thanks, i'll check them out [09:08] chrisccoulson: I tried gnash and it didn't work, but I think the issue was due to old build-deps, I'll try again with updated build-deps [09:09] oh, it didn't build? [09:10] chrisccoulson: no, it built and installed and even with the correct alternative, but ubufox didn't recognize it, I was thinking it might have to do with the new binary package name [09:10] hmmm, that seems a bit strange [09:10] have you hosted the merge anywhere? [09:10] when I set the alternative manually, it was recognized [09:11] chrisccoulson: no, but I can give you the debdiff from 0.8.8-5 [09:11] yeah, i can take a look at that [09:13] http://paste.ubuntu.com/497567/, I dropped the translation timestamp updates [09:13] thanks [09:14] chrisccoulson: it was at least recognized before the package name change, it just didn't work [09:14] * micahg doesn't understand the pfs yet [09:15] chrisccoulson: I already have an FFe filed, but I needed to provide more info [15:17] micahg, did you try my script for the wiki? [16:51] hey chrisccoulson, on bug 632760 is someone looking into merging your patch to po2xpi? [16:51] Launchpad bug 632760 in language-pack-pt (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Language variants don't work in Firefox because the language codes are separated with an underscore rather than a hyphen in chrome.manifest (affects: 1) (heat: 437)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/632760 [17:22] dpm - i think pitti did it already [17:22] you might want to check with him though [17:22] chrisccoulson, I'll do, thanks! [17:30] dpm, did you try my script for the wiki? i still see the old page for firefox :( [17:31] fta, I had a look at the script but I haven't had the chance to update the pages, as I have to check which FF and TB translations have been merged. [17:31] let me try to do this in a few minutes [18:01] * chrisccoulson wonders what on earth the PPA builders are doing [18:01] long queue, but half of them are idle [18:03] oh, well, they were a minute ago :/ [18:05] chrisccoulson, it's because they are now doing the TranslationTemplatesBuildJobs [18:06] and they're really bad at balancing the traffic, seems like they do it only once every 15min so if they get a build that take less time, they stay idle until the next cycle [18:06] a real waste [18:07] chrisccoulson: fta: there a builder sprint ATM with 2 LP devs [18:08] fta: also, ch-dev/daily was scored down, I had them rescore [18:09] micahg, did they say why they did it? [18:09] fta: yeah, there were limited build resources before for lpia, so they lowered it for that arch [18:10] weird as that ppa has a low activity [18:10] much lower than the other 4 [18:10] daily has low activity? [18:10] no, -dev [18:11] idk [18:11] https://edge.launchpad.net/~kendalltweaver/+archive/peppermint/+build/1968710 [18:11] ?? [18:12] fta: people do silly things :) [18:13] fta - yeah, i noticed that [18:13] This PPA contains some packages built with precompiled vanilla builds directly from Mozilla. For the full source code please visit: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/ [18:13] yet another person who's just bundling pre-compiled firefox binaries [18:13] I think that might violate the PPA TOS, no? [18:13] possibly, i'm not entirely sure about that tbh [18:13] if he breaks our installs, then i will poke him in the eyes with a blunt instrument [18:13] :) [18:13] heh [18:14] well, I should send out an announcement later to the team ML [18:14] I posted to identi.ca yesterday [18:14] k, I'm off to work...bbiab [18:42] fta, I've just updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Wanted/FirefoxDesktop - your script worked perfectly except for getting the Generic Name and Comment headers on the table swapped. I need to run now, but I'll take care of the TB page tomorrow. Thanks! [18:42] great [19:56] chrisccoulson: can you have a look at mozilla 580970 [19:57] Mozilla bug 580970 in Theme "Tabs on top with Ubuntu Radiance and Ambiance looks less unified than it could" [Minor,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=580970 [20:11] micahg - yeah, i've already tried to find somebody involved with theming to comment on that [20:11] no joy yet though [20:11] chrisccoulson: thanks [21:19] i still cant get chromium to save passwords even with a new profile and having saved passwords and bookmarks imported [21:36] and now thunderbird is back to being unable to connect to pop and smtp so now i cant get email nor send it. === gavin__ is now known as gavin