[01:59] <ScottK> Would someone please take the current koffice from maverick and test backporting it to lucid (no PPAs, just normal lucid).  You can see the existing backport for what needs changing.
[05:45] <ulysses> ScottK: I've got the mesa/drm updates now, it seems to work
[06:04] <ulysses> ScottK: after ~15 minutes the X freezed again, update didn't help
[06:49] <ScottK> ulysses: OK.  Then I'd go to -> #ubuntu-x and see if they have suggestions.
[07:47] <lucidfox> Shame I switched to KDE so late in the release cycle, otherwise I'd have ported Akregator to the messaging menu like i did with Liferea.
[07:48] <lucidfox> Ah well, something to do for Natty, I guess.
[07:48] <persia> Can always do the work in advance (not that there isn't other stuff to do)
[08:44]  * apachelogger_ is wondering how he ended up with a suffix
[08:45] <apachelogger_> Sput: your new core made me get a _ :P
[10:28] <Riddell> persia: boud from upstream ported the koffice arm patch to trunk, could you review it? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=251866
[10:35] <Riddell> anyone tested amarok on lucid?
[10:38] <sheytan> Riddell i'm updating now
[10:42] <sheytan> Riddell well, works fine, but the applets still don't resize as they should :D
[10:42] <Riddell> sheytan: what version of amarok?
[10:42] <sheytan> Riddell 2.3.2
[10:42] <sheytan> just upgraded
[10:42] <Riddell> sheytan: on i386?
[10:43] <sheytan> Riddell x64
[10:43] <Riddell> oh groovy, that's published now
[10:43] <Riddell> thanks sheytan, I'll put it on the website
[10:43] <sheytan> Riddell, the applet does resize when you unlock and lock back the layout
[10:44] <sheytan> but on next run it's back as it was
[10:44] <sheytan> i mean it's not resized
[10:44] <sheytan> anyway, upgrade works :D
[10:48] <Riddell> voila kubuntu.org/news/amarok-232-backports-ppa
[10:49] <Riddell> shadeslayer: what's the status of KDevelop and Qt?  I see you got kdevplatform in thanks.  Do say if you need help.
[10:50] <sheytan> Wow, the new installer now 'knows'  that you're on virtualbox :D
[10:50]  * sheytan wishes to have the possibility to use " ' " charakter in the computer name
[10:51] <sheytan> to make it something like Sheytan's PC
[10:51] <valorie> sheytan, really?
[10:51] <valorie> we thought we had that fixx0red
[10:51] <sheytan> valorie yes, it changes the computer name to "username-VirtualBox"
[10:51] <sheytan> and the slideshow is still cuted ;(
[10:52] <valorie> no, I mean "the applets still don't resize as they should :D"
[10:52] <valorie> sorry for the confusion
[10:52] <sheytan> valorie oh, yep, it doesn't :)
[10:53] <sheytan> Riddell you know what would be cool for the new website we're working on? A screenshot of Amarok or KDE for the news :D
[10:53] <valorie> I'm pretty sure someone will want to talk to you about that
[10:53] <sheytan> valorie sure :)
[10:53] <Riddell> sheytan: well that's easy enough to do with the current one, I've just got lazy and out of the habit
[10:54] <sheytan> Riddell i already like the ppa box. You made that faster, couse i was working on this for the new website :D
[10:54] <sheytan> and a screenshot would be cool
[10:55] <Riddell> cooler than a screenshot would be the splash screen a la http://dot.kde.org/
[10:55] <Riddell> sheytan: do you want to add it to the story?
[10:56] <sheytan> Riddell you mean splash for the news? :D
[10:56] <persia> Riddell, Thanks for the pointer: that's *lots* faster than I'd do it.
[10:56] <valorie> riddell, thanks for your quick action on getting that story published
[10:57] <valorie> my first attempt at writing for the Dot
[10:57] <Riddell> valorie: thanks for writing it
[10:57] <Riddell> sheytan: yes
[10:57] <sheytan> Riddell sure, why not :)
[10:58] <valorie> nightrose has the full-size in the release doc
[10:58] <valorie> http://amarok.kde.org/en/releases/2.3.2
[10:58] <valorie> I'm glad you scaled it down for the dot, though
[10:58] <valorie> :-)
[10:59] <sheytan> valorie well, mine context is tabbed with playlist
[10:59] <sheytan> but this shouldn't be a problem, right?
[11:00] <valorie> my context is tabbed with collection
[11:00] <sheytan> does it resize good?
[11:00] <valorie> but if you want a screenie, I can do one quickly, untabbed....
[11:00] <persia> Riddell, Looks good to me: the only note is that in other places in the code tree (added between our version and current trunk) literals are done as e.g. "qreal(0.0)" rather than e.g. "(qreal) 0.0", but the provided patch uses my "(qreal) 0.0", which may have very minor performance issues *AND* means the code isn't consistent in style.
[11:00] <valorie> or tabbed, as you prefer
[11:01] <valorie> sheytan, markey would appreciate a screenshot showing the applets funky sized
[11:02] <Riddell> persia: best say so on the bug :)
[11:03]  * persia tries to figure out how to "log in" before commenting is enabled
[11:03] <sheytan> valorie just a sec ;)
[11:03] <persia> Ugh, that requires reading mail :(
[11:04] <valorie> sheytan, can you send the screenshot with funky applets to kretschmann@kde.org
[11:04] <valorie> we would appreciate it
[11:04] <sheytan> valorie will do :)
[11:04] <valorie> take your time
[11:04] <valorie> danke
[11:04] <valorie> niters all
[11:04] <Riddell> agateau: I did an interview for a French magazine?
[11:04] <agateau> Riddell: you did :)
[11:05] <Riddell> I hope my French was good enough
[11:05] <agateau> Riddell: and I am bringing an issue to prove it at next UDS
[11:05] <agateau> Riddell: it sure was
[11:05] <Riddell> formidable :)
[11:05] <agateau> you see
[11:06] <agateau> Riddell: I think you are going to enjoy the issue: it comes with a CD of Mint 9, Isadora!
[11:07] <agateau> (which is just a little less funny than the one which come with Ivanka issue: Fedora 13, KDE version, I am sure she'll love it!)
[11:10] <sheytan> valorie well, looks like it works now :D :D
[11:24] <apachelogger> bug 644980 is epic
[11:24] <apachelogger> so is rekonq's inability to view anything properly
[11:31] <sheytan> apachelogger is this really needed to translate applications names?
[11:32] <sheytan> what if someone would translate digikam :D
[11:32] <dpm> sheytan, it is needed in some cases, and it's up to each translation team to decide. We translate things such as "Power Manager", for example
[11:33] <sheytan> dpm well, power manager isn't really the same as i.e qtcreator :D
[11:33] <dpm> sheytan, noticed that I said "in some cases"
[11:33] <dpm> s/noticed/notice/
[11:33] <sheytan> dpm yes, i see :P
[12:10] <Riddell> persia: so boud says you can commit but I don't think you have svn access, want me to commit?
[12:20] <sheytan> ulysses hey, looks like the thing with kde/system language is fixed now :D
[12:20] <sheytan> just installed from the latest build and choosen polish from installer. KDE is now in polish too :D
[12:21] <ulysses> sheytan: good, I can test only later, lessons now and from 16-17:30
[12:22] <sheytan> sure ;)
[12:23] <ulysses> and it's only 13:23
[12:24] <shadeslayer> Riddell: working on Qt now
[12:42] <persia> Riddell, Sure: I'l push a patch tomorrow (tonight I just have no available time).  It will be on the bug before you wake up.
[12:42] <persia> Thanks :)
[12:43] <Riddell> lovely
[12:51] <shadeslayer> qt started compiling :>
[12:52] <Riddell> time to sleep, it'll be done around whenyou wake up
[12:53] <shadeslayer> Riddell: 8 hours? :P ... its 5.30p, here anyways 
[12:55] <shadeslayer> too bad compile output doesnt how much is done
[13:29] <debfx> Riddell: could you sponsor kubuntu-notification-helper from bzr
[13:29] <debfx> fixes bug #644947
[13:31] <Riddell> debfx: yes indeed, give me ten minutes
[13:32] <shadeslayer> debfx: i saw that at college... was thinking of fixing.. :P
[13:33] <debfx> shadeslayer: why didn't you say so? :P
[13:33] <shadeslayer> debfx: because IRC is blocked at college :P
[13:33] <shadeslayer> well.. i can come through webchat.. but i dont like it
[13:35] <shadeslayer> debfx: anyways... its done now :)
[13:35] <debfx> I wonder which constructor is used to initalize QStringList with 0
[13:36] <debfx> as QString(0) is ambiguous since qt 4.7
[13:36] <shadeslayer> debfx: hmm? 
[13:38] <shadeslayer> debfx: wheres the code at? https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/maverick/kubuntu-notification-helper/maverick ?
[13:39] <debfx> shadeslayer: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kubuntu-notification-helper/trunk/revision/202
[13:39] <shadeslayer> oic
[13:41] <shadeslayer> qt so far so good :D
[13:46] <apachelogger> sheytan: I agree with dpm, sometimes it makes sense, and those times depend on the language but probably even more on what in particular the name is, if it is indeed a name, like say amarok, you should not ever need to translate it 
[13:47] <debfx> shadeslayer: it looks like they didn't change anything since the current qt snapshot
[13:47] <debfx> shadeslayer: http://qt.gitorious.org/+qt-developers/qt/releases/commits/4.7.0
[13:47] <shadeslayer> debfx: *shrug* ... still needs to test packeged once :>
[13:58] <Riddell> debfx: uploaded, thanks
[14:08] <shadeslayer> Riddell: im using http://computerpartsdirect.us/images/june/mothmnfanx01_2_efs.jpg to cool my laptop :P
[14:09] <shadeslayer> during qt build
[14:11] <shadeslayer> \o/ power outage 
[14:46] <apachelogger> -j17 \o/
[15:31] <shadeslayer> wheeee.... qt FTBFS http://pastebin.ca/1946559
[15:44] <Riddell> erk
[15:45] <Riddell> hum, dunno
[15:45] <Riddell> I'll take a look
[15:47] <Quintasan> oh yeah
[15:47]  * Quintasan just got his CAE certificate and CD straight from Japan
[15:48] <Riddell> what does that mean?
[15:49] <Quintasan> what means what?
[15:49] <Riddell> CAE
[15:49] <Quintasan> Certificate in Advanced English
[15:49] <Riddell> can you spell antidisestablishmentarianism?
[15:50] <Quintasan> I think yes
[15:50] <Quintasan> But let me read it once more :D
[15:51] <yuriy_work> no kubuntu-ppa for karmic? :(
[15:51]  * yuriy_work should really upgrade already
[15:51] <Quintasan> Riddell: I have absolutely no idea what it means but it sounds, well, classy
[15:51] <Riddell> we don't have infinite space I'm afraid
[15:52] <Riddell> Quintasan: it's the opposite of disestablishmentarianism of course
[15:52] <Quintasan> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/disestablishmentarianism
[15:52] <Quintasan> so
[15:53] <Quintasan> antidisestablishmentarianism is an opponent of opponents of established order?
[15:53] <Quintasan> makes perfect sense
[15:57] <shadeslayer> Riddell: also... after running  dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -nc in ftbfs shell..it works fine :S
[15:57] <shadeslayer> soooo... what do you infer from that ? :P
[15:58] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: it's almost party time for us
[15:58] <Quintasan> kdebindings 	
[15:58] <Quintasan> Quintasan 	
[15:58] <Riddell> shadeslayer: that qmake is evil
[15:58] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: apart from that :P
[15:58] <Quintasan> oh my, sorry
[15:58] <shadeslayer> Riddell++
[15:59] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: I mean, we have almost everything marked yellow on packaging list
[15:59] <Quintasan> :P
[15:59] <shadeslayer> and then list missing spits out a bunch of not installed headers
[15:59]  * Quintasan is accepting bets on kdebindings FTBFS
[15:59] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: whee
[15:59] <shadeslayer> http://pastebin.ca/1946571
[16:00] <sheytan> looks really professional, right? http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/3606/indexov.jpg :D
[16:00] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: what is this madness? fix it right away
[16:00] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: should we get neon.kubuntu.org? :P
[16:00] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ^
[16:00] <shadeslayer> sheytan: i hate so much blue on the top buttons... too bright :*
[16:00] <shadeslayer> erm
[16:01] <shadeslayer> s/:*/:(
[16:01] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: tone down the blue and it will be great
[16:01] <sheytan> shadeslayer, i'll propably reduce is  ;P
[16:01] <Quintasan> gah
[16:01] <Quintasan> sheytan: ^^
[16:01] <Quintasan> and give me a logo for Project Neon, using amarok logo is evul
[16:01] <Quintasan> :
[16:01] <Quintasan> :P
[16:01] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: we haz project neon logo
[16:02] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: http://amarok.kde.org/files/Image/Neon/Neon.png
[16:02] <shadeslayer> you cant find a better logo that that :>
[16:02] <shadeslayer> or if sheytan can better that one :P
[16:02] <sheytan> i'll try ;)
[16:03] <Quintasan> I'm sure we'll get something more sophisticated :P
[16:03] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: http://pastebin.ca/1946571 <-- no, seriously, fix it nao
[16:03] <Quintasan> :P
[16:03] <Riddell> when should we start advertising neon?
[16:03] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: fix0ring in progress please wait :)
[16:04] <shadeslayer> Riddell: middle of october i guess
[16:04] <shadeslayer> we should be able to fix0r most bugs till then
[16:04] <shadeslayer> and all the yellow stuff on the list should be done till end of this week
[16:04] <Quintasan> lol
[16:05] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: kdebindings is left
[16:05] <shadeslayer> FIX IT!!!!
[16:11] <shadeslayer> !search qwebframe.h
[16:12] <shadeslayer> !find qwebframe.h
[16:12] <shadeslayer> !find qwebframe.h maverick
[16:12] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: ^
[16:12] <shadeslayer> we haz different package for webkit
[16:12] <shadeslayer> Riddell: what do i do with these webkit headers?
[16:12] <shadeslayer> document in not-installed?
[16:13] <Riddell> shadeslayer: can do yes
[16:13] <shadeslayer> ok
[16:14] <shadeslayer> well then
[16:14] <shadeslayer> Riddell: qt done.. can i uploadz to ninja ppa?
[16:14] <Riddell> shadeslayer: well you said it didn't compile..
[16:15] <shadeslayer> Riddell: it does after it drops to shell and i resume compile
[16:15] <Riddell> not entirely reassuring that
[16:15] <Riddell> but yeah, go ahead an upload.  do you have enough bandwidth?
[16:15] <shadeslayer> yep :P
[16:15] <Riddell> go for it
[16:17] <shadeslayer> just the build log is 10MB :O
[16:22] <shadeslayer> W: qt4-x11 source: dbg-package-missing-depends libqt4-webkit-dbg : hehehe
[16:24] <shadeslayer> uploading
[16:55] <lex79> 7away
[16:55] <lex79> ops
[17:01] <lex79> we should have this in our final release: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=251192
[17:01] <lex79> http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma/Installing_Plasmoids#I_can.27t_install_plasmoids_in_Plasma_Workspaces_4.5.1
[17:06] <Riddell> lex79: go for it
[17:07] <lex79> ok
[17:07] <lex79> Riddell: what about qt 4.7 ? are you doing?
[17:11] <Riddell> lex79: shadeslayer has uploaded it to ninjas PPA for testing
[17:12] <lex79> good
[17:15] <shadeslayer> Riddell: s/uploaded/uploading :P
[17:18] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ok done
[17:18] <shadeslayer> errr
[17:19] <shadeslayer> :O
[17:19] <shadeslayer> lex79: you uploaded kdepim-runtime 4.6? 
[17:19] <lex79> I don't remember
[17:20] <shadeslayer> IIRC that was not supposed to go in 
[17:20] <shadeslayer> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/4:4.4.6-0ubuntu1
[17:20] <shadeslayer> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim-runtime/4:4.4.6-0ubuntu1
[17:20] <Riddell> it's 4.5 we don't want
[17:20] <Riddell> 4.4.6 is fine
[17:20] <shadeslayer> ohh.. ok
[17:21] <Riddell> that 0.0.4 makes all the difference
[17:21]  * shadeslayer missed a 4 there in the version
[17:26] <shadeslayer> aha! so finally i have debs in /var/cache/pbuilder/result/
[17:28] <seele_> any git experts in here?
[17:29]  * Riddell hides
[17:29] <Riddell> agateau it a git man
[17:30] <shadeslayer> seele_: ssup?
[17:30] <shadeslayer> not a git expert but maybe i can help
[17:30] <shadeslayer> seele_: also #git :P
[17:31] <seele_> shadeslayer: #git is scary :(
[17:31] <shadeslayer> i know ... but anyways.. whats the issue? 
[17:31] <seele_> shadeslayer: i cloned a repository, but when i go to pull updates it complains there is no .git file
[17:32] <shadeslayer> err
[17:32] <shadeslayer> seele_: you didnt remove it right? :P
[17:32] <seele_> no.. i dont think it was ever there
[17:33] <seele_> can i just use the git url again?
[17:33] <shadeslayer> seele_: just git clone url again
[17:33] <shadeslayer> in a new dir that is
[17:34] <shadeslayer> you can  git diff your current work and save that as a patch
[17:34] <seele_> ooh, that's easy
[17:34] <seele_> thanks, sorry for the stupid question
[17:34] <shadeslayer> and if youve commited any stuff, git diff -r rev 
[17:35] <Riddell> git diff won't work if you don't have a .git directory
[17:35] <shadeslayer> Riddell: erm.. he has a .git dir but not a .git file i think
[17:35] <seele_> Riddell: but i can use the new .git directory, yes?
[17:35] <shadeslayer> which is weird tbh
[17:36] <shadeslayer> or you can run diff -Nur between the 2 source tress
[17:36] <shadeslayer> *trees
[17:36] <Riddell> seele_: yes
[17:37] <seele_> thanks
[17:39] <neversfelde> I do not remember, if  told you that amarok is in backports 
[17:43] <shadeslayer> \o/ qt building in ninja
[17:44] <Riddell> neversfelde: it's on kubuntu.org
[17:45] <neversfelde> k
[17:49] <debfx> great, they added google-analytics scripts to all qt doc pages
[17:49] <debfx> now we need adblock for qt assistant ^^
[17:56] <shadeslayer> debfx: lol
[17:59] <debfx> or we just disable javascript
[18:00] <ScottK> lucidfox: Before you port Akregator, make sure you're familiar with how message indicator (and it's more of an indicator still) works in KDE.  Also we have been pretty insistent that such patches be accepted upstream (all of them are so far) - We have been very successful in getting the ayatana changes we've adopted upstream and want to keep up with that.
[18:01] <Riddell> akregator doesn't have much of an upstream maintainer currently
[18:01] <Riddell> maybe lucidfox can take over upstream :)
[18:01] <ScottK> Well that would make it kind of interesting then.
[18:15] <lex79> pbuilder is broken http://pastebin.ca/1946658
[18:15] <lex79> something is wrong with bzip2
[18:18] <ScottK> lex79: You got libbz2-1.0 from -updates and bzip2 from lucid.  I'd pbuilder-update and try it again.
[18:23] <lex79> ScottK: it works, thanks
[18:24] <ScottK> You;;re welcome.
[18:35] <shadeslayer> apparently i haz no more qt4-X11 build log -.-
[18:37] <maco> shadeslayer: seele isnt a he
[18:38] <shadeslayer> maco: ohhk... :)
[19:00] <Quintasan> ...
[19:00] <Quintasan> no, seriously
[19:01] <Quintasan> Why I was thinking that when I would print a *.gif it would still move?
[19:11] <maco> Quintasan: hahaha
[19:17] <lex79> ScottK: can you accept kdelibs? I tested the patch, it works. Thanks
[19:18] <ScottK> lex79: I will look at it.
[19:18] <lex79> ok
[19:20] <Quintasan> maco: I'm dead serious about that, I spent a minute honestly thinking: "Why the hell it won't move?!"
[19:21] <Quintasan> then I came to realise my own foolishness
[19:21] <ScottK> lex79: Accepted.
[19:21] <lex79> ScottK: thanks
[19:22] <maco> UDS flights booked
[19:28] <Quintasan> argh still no response
[19:28] <neversfelde> mhh
[19:28] <neversfelde> no UDS for me again :(
[19:29] <Quintasan> neversfelde: no sponsoriship or you are just unable to go?
[19:29] <neversfelde> Quintasan: unable to go
[19:30] <neversfelde> if Kubuntu will not change the release dates, I think I will never be able to go there :)
[19:31] <Quintasan> gah, if I don't get any response I won't be able to go there too
[19:31] <Quintasan> :/
[19:33] <lex79> shadeslayer: still around?
[22:12] <fejjerai> shadeslayer: ping
[22:12] <fejjerai> shadeslayer: need to reboot the core real quick
[22:19] <howlymowly> hi poeple...  in maverick...  (i just installed it) kopete does not work yet right? 
[22:19] <howlymowly> it does not even show upin the taskbar on my system...
[22:41] <ScottK> howlymowly: It's in the message indicator.  No need for a separate icon cluttering the systray.
[22:42] <howlymowly> ScottK: but what If I do not use the message indicator :)?
[22:42] <howlymowly> kopete just doesn't seem to work..I dont know...
[22:42] <ScottK> howlymowly: Then start in manually and change the config.  It's just a default.
[22:43] <ScottK> It's working on my maverick system, so the problem isn't general.
[22:44] <howlymowly> ScottK:  I just found out:  for some reason my kopete seemd to ahve problems with the old configuration file from kubuntu lucid
[22:45] <howlymowly> afteer I deleted the kopete directory from .kde/share/apps/  eerything works fine :)
[22:45] <howlymowly> as expected...
[22:45] <ScottK> Ah.  My maverick system is a fresh install.  That's worth a bug I think.
[22:46] <howlymowly> ScottK.. i guess so...  I just can not reproduce the bug anymore since I just deleted the configuration ehe 
[22:46] <howlymowly> *hehe
[22:47] <ScottK> Right, but at least file it.
[22:47] <howlymowly> doing it right now...
[22:55] <JontheEchidna> debfx: thanks for the fix. I wrote that bit of code back before I really knew how ctor member variable initialization worked. (I do know ;-))
[23:38] <claydoh> ScottK:  you still looking for me? or was it some other good looking dude