[00:14] do you think maverick may change something in artwork, from today's build? [00:48] krabador: It's unlikely [17:44] vish: heh, look who commented here: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2010/09/19/ubuntu-artwork-crisis/#comment-3408 [17:46] makes me recall my april fool's mail [17:46] thorwil: ha nice! [17:46] thorwil: what mail? [17:47] vish: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2009-April/009615.html [17:51] ah! [17:52] thorwil: from what i read, mairin *really* hates mark [17:52] oh. [17:54] thorwil: i think more so after the unity vs shell thingy.. [17:57] vish: as much as one might disagree on a design, strategic or technical standpoint, such things shouldn't be taken personally [17:57] yep [17:57] of course hearsay is no basis to know if she actually does ... [17:58] thorwil: well , she went out-n-out blasting marks comments [17:58] on some blog.. [17:58] it was more nasty and kinda odd seeing those comments from mairin [17:58] thorwil: i'm wonder if that comment was really an invite thinking you dint know about Fedora process or a stab.. [17:59] vish: i see it as a reminder. and a stab :) [17:59] dinner time, bbl [17:59] ;) [18:58] hmm i guess http://pickpic.parcodiyellowstone.it/ does not not use a vcs, design-hub is intended to use git [18:59] our natural choice would be bzr, but relying on gitorious shouldn't hurt [19:18] vish: do you think the xubuntu and edubuntu people have a good enough idea of what a briefing should look like? [19:19] thorwil: well , thats a secondary issue .. but we should encourage them to think about a pov too :) [19:19] … [19:20] thorwil: IMO, it would be nice if they are involved in the process as well ;) [19:20] vish: nice? a must, almost [19:21] vish: one mail from a representative of each project, with their thoughts on the matter so far would be a good start [19:22] thorwil: yep.. but saleel's mail started off without any starting point, so twas just a reminder [19:22] thorwil: charlie is for xubuntu [19:22] he already replied.. === ian_brasil___ is now known as ian_brasil [20:57] hi i'm new in irc chat, i'm daniel planas(if anyone knows me) www.lighgraphite.com [20:58] i'm doing somthink like that: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ayatana/Windicators/DanielsWindicators [21:00] A few days ago I see much movement in the mailing lists, is going with the theme: What would you like to work on? [21:00] can someone tell me? [21:04] lightgraphite: welcome. how could we not know who daniel planas is? ;) [21:04] lightgraphite: tell you what exactly? [21:06] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2010-September/012262.html [21:06] this is the thread [21:06] I have not watched mailing lists lately and I'm not very good at English [21:07] but I have the feeling that something important is being discussed [21:08] artwork community seems to want to take more strength and go beyond the wiki is not it? [21:08] lightgraphite: the idea was to see how many people are on the list that are actually interested in getting some work done [21:08] lightgraphite: yes [21:09] however, it seems as if the contributions of the community artists were never included in the distribution. [21:09] which could be done? [21:10] lightgraphite: well, there's the community-themes package [21:11] lightgraphite: and we could do a wallpaper package, perhaps [21:12] I always thought it was keeping crux and industrial themes for example, no one uses.! But modern themes as elementary or equinox everyone downloaded, so why not keep a number of good art themes? not much difficulty [21:12] lightgraphite: for xubuntu and edubuntu, we could even do default artwork [21:13] the artwork-comunity could be keep [21:14] lightgraphite: sure, collecting and packaging a few selected themes shouldn't be too hard. it's just somebody has to actually do it [21:17] could open a new topic in the mailing lists and make a collection of 3 or 4 themes that were included on ubuntu with the official themes and replace the old ones. [21:17] the community could give his vote and so everybody's happy. [21:18] vish: what do you think of that? ^ [21:18] i have to run, good night! [21:19] * vish reads.. [21:19] hi dani! [21:19] hi [21:19] ;) [21:19] Vish you have read my conversation with thorwil, you do you think? [21:20] just reading it now.. [21:21] good night thorwil [21:22] lightgraphite: yes, thats the plan.. we want people to be more active on the mailing list , more chat/discussion about art.. the community has been too silent for too long [21:22] lightgraphite: did you see my latest reply to the list? [21:22] about equinox and newer themes? [21:23] no, you can post me a link? [21:23] lightgraphite: are you subscribed to the list? [21:23] this is the mail i'm referring to : https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2010-September/012330.html [21:25] equinox uses its own engine , if we are to package such themes then we need to get the engines into Ubuntu as well [21:25] otherwise they wont work [21:25] ok [21:26] add new engines also means less space is to need consider [21:26] it's true [21:26] lightgraphite: i would suggest you subscribe to the mailing list too, and reply that you want to take part in artwork.. :) [21:26] but even if not add new engines have many themes to be included right before the old gnome themes [21:27] ok? i'm subsribe now [21:27] we need people to say that they are interested in doing work … it would be nice to know there are active people on the list ;) [21:28] Okay, I need ideas: what's a good fake name for the user in screenshots for the installer slideshow? :) (I'm terrible at both remembering and inventing names) [21:29] lightgraphite: dont worry about your english though.. I do understand most of what you are saying, your english is good :) [21:29] thanks xD i'm studying now [21:29] well, well , look who is here! if it aint dylan-m himself ;) [21:30] hello! [21:30] dylan-m: what installer screenshot? [21:31] i'think de user name could be: user [21:31] Simple and recognizable [21:31] all of them! The 8 or so screenshots we have in Maverick's installer slideshow. I'm hoping to avoid that all-too-common situation where we have a generic username and pictures where nothing is happening [21:32] dylan-m: oh you mean the top right username? [21:32] Yep, that one. [21:32] The current stuff (swiped from the web site) does the latter part quite well, but the username (which we see in a few places) is “ubuntu”, which strikes me as odd. [21:33] yea [21:34] dylan-m: one way we could do is look for inspiring names.. related to computing.. ex: "ada" [21:34] thats too short though ;p [21:35] john? lol, i think the better solution could be: user name [21:35] I do like that line of thought. Nice idea :) [21:35] because everyone know what is written there [21:36] lightgraphite: yea, but that becomes impersonal.. having/using a real name makes the screenshots feel like it was taken from a real user [21:36] mmm [21:36] then we must use a name widely used international [21:37] for example, michael? i dont now which are the most common names [21:38] dylan-m: googling lead to : http://shibuvarkala.blogspot.com/2009/08/famous-personalities-of-computer.html [21:38] dylan-m: "Claude" ? [21:39] maybe we could look for more open-sourcy... [21:40] richard stallman [21:40] dylan-m: or " doctormo " ;) [21:41] ? [21:41] doctormo: just naming a famous person in ope source ;p [21:41] open* [21:42] doctormo: Okay, I need ideas: what's a good fake name for the user in screenshots for the installer slideshow? :) (I'm terrible at both remembering and inventing names) [21:42] doctormo: i suggested : one way we could do is look for inspiring names.. related to computing.. ex: "ada" … any suggestions? [21:43] vish: Alan Turing, certainly. He needs more bumb. [21:43] dylan-m: ^ [21:44] We could have lots of fun with this, perhaps SteveJ, for people who are fixed, it will be fun. [21:44] That would work. Alan is longer than three letters :) [21:45] * dylan-m wonders if this industry could survive another person named Steve [21:45] lol! [21:52] Sorry, I timed out there. The wifi in this building has gone completely downhill :( [22:00] Err, then the kernel died :/ [22:02] I think I'll go with Alan. It's a solid name and it looks pretty with the new font. [22:02] Thanks for the suggestions! [22:40] * darkmatter throws a hefty blunt object at vish