[00:14] <krabador> do you think maverick may change something in artwork, from today's build?
[00:48] <doctormo> krabador: It's unlikely
[17:44] <thorwil> vish: heh, look who commented here: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2010/09/19/ubuntu-artwork-crisis/#comment-3408
[17:46] <thorwil> makes me recall my april fool's mail
[17:46] <vish> thorwil: ha nice!
[17:46] <vish> thorwil: what mail?
[17:47] <thorwil> vish: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2009-April/009615.html
[17:51] <vish> ah!
[17:52] <vish> thorwil: from what i read, mairin *really* hates mark
[17:52] <thorwil> oh.
[17:54] <vish> thorwil: i think more so after the unity vs shell thingy..
[17:57] <thorwil> vish: as much as one might disagree on a design, strategic or technical standpoint, such things shouldn't be taken personally
[17:57] <vish> yep
[17:57] <thorwil> of course hearsay is no basis to know if she actually does ...
[17:58] <vish> thorwil: well , she went out-n-out blasting marks comments
[17:58] <vish> on some blog..
[17:58] <vish> it was more nasty and kinda odd seeing those comments from mairin
[17:58] <vish> thorwil: i'm wonder if that comment was really an invite thinking you dint know about Fedora process or a stab..
[17:59] <thorwil> vish: i see it as a reminder. and a stab :)
[17:59] <thorwil> dinner time, bbl
[17:59] <vish> ;)
[18:58] <thorwil> hmm i guess http://pickpic.parcodiyellowstone.it/ does not not use a vcs, design-hub is intended to use git
[18:59] <thorwil> our natural choice would be bzr, but relying on gitorious shouldn't hurt
[19:18] <thorwil> vish: do you think the xubuntu and edubuntu people have a good enough idea of what a briefing should look like?
[19:19] <vish> thorwil: well , thats a secondary issue .. but we should encourage them to think about a pov too :)
[19:19] <vish> …
[19:20] <vish> thorwil: IMO, it would be nice if they are involved in the process as well ;)
[19:20] <thorwil> vish: nice? a must, almost
[19:21] <thorwil> vish: one mail from a representative of each project, with their thoughts on the matter so far would be a good start
[19:22] <vish> thorwil: yep.. but saleel's mail started off without any starting point, so twas just a reminder
[19:22] <vish> thorwil: charlie is for xubuntu
[19:22] <vish> he already replied..
[20:57] <lightgraphite> hi i'm new in irc chat, i'm daniel planas(if anyone knows me) www.lighgraphite.com
[20:58] <lightgraphite> i'm doing somthink like that: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ayatana/Windicators/DanielsWindicators
[21:00] <lightgraphite> A few days ago I see much movement in the mailing lists, is going with the theme: What would you like to work on?
[21:00] <lightgraphite> can someone tell me?
[21:04] <thorwil> lightgraphite: welcome. how could we not know who daniel planas is? ;)
[21:04] <thorwil> lightgraphite: tell you what exactly?
[21:06] <lightgraphite> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2010-September/012262.html
[21:06] <lightgraphite> this is the thread
[21:06] <lightgraphite> I have not watched mailing lists lately and I'm not very good at English
[21:07] <lightgraphite> but I have the feeling that something important is being discussed
[21:08] <lightgraphite> artwork community seems to want to take more strength and go beyond the wiki is not it?
[21:08] <thorwil> lightgraphite: the idea was to see how many people are on the list that are actually interested in getting some work done
[21:08] <thorwil> lightgraphite: yes
[21:09] <lightgraphite> however, it seems as if the contributions of the community artists were never included in the distribution.
[21:09] <lightgraphite> which could be done?
[21:10] <thorwil> lightgraphite: well, there's the community-themes package
[21:11] <thorwil> lightgraphite: and we could do a wallpaper package, perhaps
[21:12] <lightgraphite> I always thought it was keeping  crux and industrial themes for example, no one uses.! But modern themes as elementary or equinox everyone downloaded, so why not keep a number of good art themes? not much difficulty
[21:12] <thorwil> lightgraphite: for xubuntu and edubuntu, we could even do default artwork
[21:13] <lightgraphite> the artwork-comunity could be keep
[21:14] <thorwil> lightgraphite: sure, collecting and packaging a few selected themes shouldn't be too hard. it's just somebody has to actually do it
[21:17] <lightgraphite> could open a new topic in the mailing lists and make a collection of 3 or 4 themes that were included on ubuntu with the official themes and replace the old ones.
[21:17] <lightgraphite> the community could give his vote and so everybody's happy.
[21:18] <thorwil> vish: what do you think of that? ^
[21:18] <thorwil> i have to run, good night!
[21:19]  * vish reads..
[21:19] <vish> hi dani!
[21:19] <lightgraphite> hi
[21:19] <lightgraphite> ;)
[21:19] <lightgraphite> Vish you have read my conversation with thorwil, you do you think?
[21:20] <vish> just reading it now..
[21:21] <lightgraphite> good night thorwil
[21:22] <vish> lightgraphite: yes, thats the plan.. we want people to be more active on the mailing list , more chat/discussion about art.. the community has been too silent for too long
[21:22] <vish> lightgraphite: did you see my latest reply to the list?
[21:22] <vish> about equinox and newer themes?
[21:23] <lightgraphite> no, you can post me a link?
[21:23] <vish> lightgraphite: are you subscribed to the list?
[21:23] <vish> this is the mail i'm referring to : https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2010-September/012330.html
[21:25] <vish> equinox uses its own engine , if we are to package such themes then we need to get the engines into Ubuntu as well
[21:25] <vish> otherwise they wont work
[21:25] <lightgraphite> ok
[21:26] <lightgraphite> add new engines also means less space is to need consider
[21:26] <lightgraphite> it's true
[21:26] <vish> lightgraphite: i would suggest you subscribe to the mailing list too, and reply that you want to take part in artwork.. :)
[21:26] <lightgraphite> but even if not add new engines have many themes to be included right before the old gnome themes
[21:27] <lightgraphite> ok? i'm subsribe now
[21:27] <vish> we need people to say that they are interested in doing work … it would be nice to know there are active people on the list ;)
[21:28] <dylan-m> Okay, I need ideas: what's a good fake name for the user in screenshots for the installer slideshow? :) (I'm terrible at both remembering and inventing names)
[21:29] <vish> lightgraphite: dont worry about your english though.. I do understand most of what you are saying, your english is good :)
[21:29] <lightgraphite> thanks xD i'm studying now
[21:29] <vish>  well, well , look who is here! if it aint dylan-m himself ;)
[21:30] <dylan-m> hello!
[21:30] <vish> dylan-m: what installer screenshot?
[21:31] <lightgraphite> i'think de user name could be: user
[21:31] <lightgraphite> Simple and recognizable
[21:31] <dylan-m> all of them! The 8 or so screenshots we have in Maverick's installer slideshow. I'm hoping to avoid that all-too-common situation where we have a generic username and pictures where nothing is happening
[21:32] <vish> dylan-m: oh you mean the top right username?
[21:32] <dylan-m> Yep, that one.
[21:32] <dylan-m> The current stuff (swiped from the web site) does the latter part quite well, but the username (which we see in a few places) is “ubuntu”, which strikes me as odd.
[21:33] <vish> yea
[21:34] <vish> dylan-m: one way we could do is look for inspiring names.. related to computing.. ex: "ada"
[21:34] <vish> thats too short though ;p
[21:35] <lightgraphite> john? lol, i think the better solution could be: user name
[21:35] <dylan-m> I do like that line of thought. Nice idea :)
[21:35] <lightgraphite> because everyone know what is written there
[21:36] <vish> lightgraphite: yea, but that becomes impersonal.. having/using a real name makes the screenshots feel like it was taken from a real user
[21:36] <lightgraphite> mmm
[21:36] <lightgraphite> then we must use a name widely used international
[21:37] <lightgraphite> for example, michael? i dont now which are the most common names
[21:38] <vish> dylan-m: googling lead to : http://shibuvarkala.blogspot.com/2009/08/famous-personalities-of-computer.html
[21:38] <vish> dylan-m: "Claude"  ?
[21:39] <vish> maybe we could look for more open-sourcy...
[21:40] <lightgraphite> richard stallman
[21:40] <vish> dylan-m: or " doctormo "  ;)
[21:41] <doctormo> ?
[21:41] <vish> doctormo: just naming a famous person in ope source ;p
[21:41] <vish> open*
[21:42] <vish> doctormo:  <dylan-m> Okay, I need ideas: what's a good fake name for the user in screenshots for the installer slideshow? :) (I'm terrible at both remembering and inventing names)
[21:42] <vish> doctormo: i suggested : one way we could do is look for inspiring names.. related to computing.. ex: "ada" … any suggestions?
[21:43] <doctormo> vish: Alan Turing, certainly. He needs more bumb.
[21:43] <vish> dylan-m: ^
[21:44] <lightgraphite> We could have lots of fun with this, perhaps SteveJ, for people who are fixed, it will be fun.
[21:44] <dylan-m> That would work. Alan is longer than three letters :)
[21:45]  * dylan-m wonders if this industry could survive another person named Steve
[21:45] <vish> lol!
[21:52] <dylan-m> Sorry, I timed out there. The wifi in this building has gone completely downhill :(
[22:00] <dylan-m> Err, then the kernel died :/
[22:02] <dylan-m> I think I'll go with Alan. It's a solid name and it looks pretty with the new font.
[22:02] <dylan-m> Thanks for the suggestions!
[22:40]  * darkmatter throws a hefty blunt object at vish