[00:04] <duanedesign> my goodness, been a busy channel today
[00:04] <duanedesign> taking me an hour to read the scrollback :P
[00:13] <duanedesign> jono: as you move forward with the community review to assess how accessible our community is for newcomers would you please keep the Beginners Team in mind as a vehicle for helping to simplyfy the onboarding experience.
[00:14] <jono> duanedesign, will do
[00:14] <jono> :-)
[00:14] <duanedesign> thank you sir
[01:05] <cjohnston> doctormo: the other accommodations lists >300 meters.. should that be <1000 ft?
[01:31] <doctormo> cjohnston: I'm not sure, do you think it needs to be specified? if so, please do add it to the wiki
[01:31] <cjohnston> I was joking about the feet.. but you said greater than 300 meters... >300
[01:52] <doctormo> cjohnston: Read it literally, less-than 300 meters
[01:53] <doctormo> But the sign is the wrong way round
[01:53] <cjohnston> I know what you meant.. but the > was backwards ;-)
[01:54] <duanedesign> doctormo: ok got my flight
[01:54] <duanedesign> doctormo: thanks again for the help
[01:54] <doctormo> duanedesign: Did you get the $65 too?
[01:54] <duanedesign> doctormo: not as of earlier today
[01:55] <doctormo> We're basically waiting on a few people to confirm their plans and I'll move forwards with the accommodation booking.
[01:55] <duanedesign> ill check in a minute
[01:55] <doctormo> duanedesign: You know who to email about it :-) I'll leave it in your hands.
[01:55]  * duanedesign adding his flight info to the wiki
[01:56] <duanedesign> doctormo: yep. no problem there. I have talked to him a few times. Some issues with his bank in spain :)
[02:09] <pleia2> so nice to see this coming together, awesome work doctormo :)
[02:13] <duanedesign> yes i wouldnt even considered going had it not been for doctormos help
[02:13] <duanedesign> next uds (when  i am not unemployed) i hope to return the karma and help someone else
[02:26] <doctormo> duanedesign: Ironically you could help me ;-)
[02:27] <doctormo> Actually I retract, I meant coincidentally.
[03:04] <duanedesign> doctormo: hello
[03:05] <duanedesign> doctormo: sorry was on the phone
[03:55] <doctormo> duanedesign: np
[04:01] <duanedesign> doctormo: did you still need help with something?
[04:01] <doctormo> duanedesign: nope
[04:01] <doctormo> thanks though!
[08:11] <dpm> good morning everyone!
[08:12] <popey> lo
[08:20] <vish> hi
[08:26] <czajkowski> peeka boo
[08:29] <AlanBell> o/
[08:35] <dpm> wow, lots of folk early in the morning :)
[09:50]  * nigelb waves
[09:50] <nigelb> ara: awesome site.  qa site now rocks :)
[09:50] <ara> nigelb, thanks!
[09:52] <nigelb> is the tracks page on the new uds site broken only for me?
[09:54] <nigelb> oh, that's all sorts of css broke :/
[09:54] <nigelb> I wonder if the code is in bzr somewhere...
[09:54] <nigelb> jcastro: ^^ ?
[12:14] <duanedesign> morning all
[12:20] <nigelb> morning duanedesign :)
[12:23]  * duanedesign waves at nigelb 
[15:40] <jcastro> dinda: I added my school to your list!
[15:40] <dinda> jcastro: awesome!
[15:41] <dinda> jcastro:  I can't get over some of the great work being done by kids and schools
[15:43] <jcastro> I know
[15:44] <jcastro> I wish we had the time/resources to do proper .edu work
[15:44] <dinda> jcastro: I'm trying to make the business case right now :)
[15:45] <jcastro> \o/
[15:46] <Pendulum> dinda: yay! :)
[15:47] <czajkowski> whoo
[15:47] <czajkowski> D
[15:47] <czajkowski> dinda: you rock
[15:49] <dinda> of course, supporting blog posts by community peoples wouldn't hurt ;)
[15:49] <jcastro> what do I need to point to?
[15:50] <czajkowski> dinda: heading to the one in limerick next week to do an interview
[15:50] <Pendulum> dinda: I assume you're in touch with cprofitt?
[15:50] <dinda> Pendulum: yes but not lately
[15:51] <dinda> jcastro: good question. . .
[15:52] <dinda> jcastro:  that wiki list, the edubuntu site, any evidence that this is a growing sector/business area for us and that just in general Ubuntu and education just makes sense
[15:52] <jcastro> ok
[15:52] <jcastro> I'll wait until tonight, you're on top of planet and I don't want to mess that up yet
[15:52] <jcastro> heh
[15:52] <jcastro> new edubuntu.org does look pretty awesome
[15:56] <jcastro> akgraner: yikes, no one has signed up for OW yet except for Mark!
[15:56]  * jcastro will make that his priority today
[15:56] <jcastro> dinda/highvoltage: want to do an education thing?
[15:57] <dinda> jcastro:  yes - what do you mean by 'education thing'?
[15:57] <jcastro> something education related?
[15:58] <jcastro> openweek will be more user-focused this time
[15:58] <jcastro> so maybe a session for students or something?
[15:59] <dinda> jcastro:  when is OW?
[15:59] <jcastro> week after release
[15:59] <jcastro> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek
[16:01] <jono> dpm, jcastro, kim0 logging into mumble
[16:01] <jcastro> One sec!
[16:01] <kim0> yaay
[16:01] <jcastro> mic problem!
[16:02] <jono> hmmm mumble not starting here
[16:02] <jono> ok skype it is
[16:02] <czajkowski> it's lashing so hard here, my car alarm was set off!
[16:02] <jono> jcastro, dpm, kim0 ^
[16:03] <kim0> niente problemo
[16:03] <jcastro> all set on skype
[16:03] <dpm> jono, all set on skype too
[16:03] <highvoltage> jcastro: I did it the last 2 OW's, there wasn't particularly much interest (either that or we had bad slots both times), so I'm not particularly motivated to do another one
[16:03] <czajkowski> jcastro: me/loco council could do a session on how to get involved in your Loco ?
[16:04] <jcastro> czajkowski: sure, snag em up
[16:04] <czajkowski> jcastro: or how locos can improve by doing some really simple stuff.. like team reports!
[16:04] <jcastro> highvoltage: that's a  bummer. :(
[16:05] <jono> one sec guys
[16:05] <jono> got grabbed
[16:05] <jcastro> vish: can you snag someone for a bug session?
[16:05] <jcastro> ScottL: it's been a while since someone talked about Studio, you should grab a slot!
[16:06] <jcastro> maco: kubuntu sessions welcome!
[16:07] <czajkowski> jcastro: done
[16:07] <jcastro> dpm: kim0: translations and cloud stuff wanted! (focus on beginner stuff)
[16:07] <jcastro> also, try to find new instructors
[16:07] <jcastro> people must be getting sick of us by now
[16:08] <popey> Has anyone measured the effectiveness of UOW/UDW? Do we have any goals for it?
[16:08] <jcastro> ugh, don't get all spatula on me dude
[16:08] <jcastro> (the teams who do the sessions would know I think)
[16:08] <popey> :(
[16:09] <jcastro> I was just messing with you
[16:09] <popey> :)
[16:09] <jcastro> I know the bugsquad has gotten volunteers in the past
[16:09] <jcastro> I casually measure participation
[16:09] <jcastro> it's usually 300ish people average
[16:09] <jcastro> topping out at 400ish when mark talks
[16:09] <jcastro> and can get as low as 250
[16:10] <jcastro> Not A Metric(tm)
[16:10] <Pendulum> jcastro: are you basing those off numbers of people in -classroom? and if so are you counting the people who idle in there?
[16:10] <jcastro> yeah, I basically do /names
[16:10] <popey> currently 97 people in there with nothing happening
[16:10] <jcastro> and then it tells me how many people are in there
[16:11] <popey> (some bots etc)
[16:11] <jcastro> I said Not a Metric(tm)!
[16:11] <popey> just sayin
[16:11] <Pendulum> I'd say about 100 people idling at one time is probably right
[16:11] <Pendulum> so take 100 off your numbers to get closer to exact ;-)
[16:11] <popey> NOTE: Not exact!
[16:12] <Pendulum> popey: yeah, but 100 is a lot to be off by!
[16:12] <popey> well, yes :)
[16:12] <popey> hence me asking.
[16:12] <maco> jcastro: JonTheEchidna is who you want for kubuntu debugging info
[16:12] <popey> I'm just looking at how much effort goes in, and what sausages come out.
[16:12] <maco> jcastro: or am i reading your and vish's thing wrong?
[16:13] <popey> and whether the sausages warrant the effort, and if not, what could be done to improve it
[16:13] <Pendulum> jcastro: were you guys going to set-up a survey this time around like we used for UUD?
[16:14] <maco> i cant do OW. i have 2 exams that week thanks to UDS ;-)
[16:14] <maco> (as in, would have had one, but convinced a prof to let me take early)
[16:14] <jcastro> Pendulum: we could
[16:15] <jcastro> but to be honest, UOW is more user-related
[16:15] <jcastro> so if we spend some time giving people tips on inkscape or whatever then that's fine
[16:15] <Pendulum> jcastro: I know, but I meant in terms of feedback for what people liked/didn't like
[16:15] <jcastro> do we really need to measure that?
[16:15] <jcastro> oh
[16:15] <jcastro> usually I have a feedback session at the end
[16:15] <Pendulum> (aka, what will get more people to do user week)
[16:15] <jcastro> should I do a survey instead?
[16:15] <Pendulum> I think for us a survey worked because it meant it could get done at any point
[16:16] <jcastro> true dat
[16:17] <Pendulum> also because they didn't need to ID themselves (which if you have criticism on something can be hard for some people to be IDed when giving the criticism)
[16:19] <Pendulum> (we did not, however, get responses that were overly negative, which is impressive since most people only fill our surveys when they have something to complain about)
[16:23] <jcastro> I think most people appreciate the effort given the limitedness of IRC
[16:26] <czajkowski> can I just say as ticket trackers go RT is god damn awful! #
[16:28] <cjohnston> yes
[16:28] <jcastro> ooh
[16:28] <jcastro> anyone on the beginner team?
[16:28] <jcastro> that'd be a good session
[16:30] <duanedesign> hello jcastro
[16:32] <duanedesign> jcastro: what were you thinking. An overall primer on community entry?
[16:33] <jcastro> think of it as an opportunity to get new volunteers perhaps?
[16:33] <jcastro> or what your team does
[16:33] <jcastro> how people can help
[16:33] <jcastro> etc.
[16:33] <duanedesign> yes of course, great idea.
[16:36] <duanedesign> jcastro: ill have a chat with handler ptag and cprofitt. We'll come up with a great session. :)
[16:37] <jono> cjohnston, quick q
[16:37] <jono> what was the wiki page I asked you to work on for the community info?
[16:37] <cjohnston> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityContributePages
[16:37] <cjohnston> ?
[16:39] <cjohnston> Ubuntu community rocks.. A user from belgium is visiting Florida, but his friend had to cancel at the last minute.. He jumped into the Florida channel, and is making plans with people to do stuff while he is here
[16:39] <jcastro> that is awesome
[16:39] <maco> my attempt at doing that in #ubuntu-uk a couple years ago failed
[16:40] <cjohnston> :-/
[16:41] <czajkowski> pleia2: is coming to the Irish release party
[16:41] <cjohnston> huh?!
[16:41] <cjohnston> You wanna fly me too czajkowski ?
[16:41] <popey> maco: doing what?
[16:41] <czajkowski> we've had randomers just mail us and come along to the pub and meet them
[16:41] <maco> popey: finding people to hang out with
[16:42] <popey> Hmm
[16:42] <popey> not surprised tbh
[16:42] <czajkowski> maco: just depends tbh, if there is someone free and in the area.
[16:42] <popey> We're british after all
[16:42] <czajkowski> heh
[16:42] <czajkowski> maco: see you clearly went too far had you stopped off in Ireland we'd have met you
[17:04] <akgraner> jcastro, eek!
[17:05] <akgraner> I'll work on that tomorrow - writing up a Reminder about App Dev Week right now
[17:05] <jcastro> no worries
[17:05] <jcastro> I'll have it mostly filled today hopefully
[17:05] <jcastro> see how quiet everyone is? they don't want to get voluntold. :p
[17:06] <jcastro> akgraner: I am trying to get new instructors
[17:06] <jcastro> so no, you can't sign up
[17:06] <jcastro> :p
[17:07] <akgraner> :p
[17:07] <akgraner> I wasn't going to this time - I was just going to go nudge a few people and write some blog posts about it ...:-P
[17:08] <akgraner> I love that word "Voluntold"
[17:10] <vish> oh! UOW!
[17:13] <vish> jcastro: i think i got one person willing to take a slot ! :)
[17:15] <jcastro> vish: yeah!
[17:15] <jcastro> vish: just have him grab whatever slot
[17:16]  * popey wonders if http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-n/track/application_developers/ is supposed to give me python errors
[17:26] <vish> popey: is GMT now at UTC+1 or is it -1 ?
[17:26] <popey> neither
[17:26] <popey> UK is on BST, not GMT
[17:27] <popey> BST is GMT+1
[17:27] <popey> and GMT roughly is the same as UTC
[17:27] <popey> so right now the UK is UTC+1
[17:27] <vish> ah!
[17:27] <vish> thx
[17:39] <paultag> DavidLevin, deja-vu :)
[17:40] <DavidLevin> paultag: and again hello
[17:58] <jcastro> paultag: user-level courses wanted! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek
[17:59] <paultag> jcastro, I'll see what I can do :)
[17:59] <jcastro> paultag: ask around would ya?
[17:59] <paultag> jcastro, planning on it :)
[17:59] <jcastro> I'm sure jacob could do something awesome for example
[17:59] <paultag> jcastro, Yeah, I'll also post it to the UBT, see if anyone wants to do some stuff
[18:01] <jcastro> special love for whoever does an inkscape class
[18:01] <jcastro> because that's awesome
[18:02] <Pendulum> jcastro: maybe poke doctormo about that?
[18:04] <akgraner> jcastro, +1 on an inkscape class!
[18:05] <doctormo> Pendulum: What leve lof inkscape class do you think?
[18:05] <Pendulum> jcastro: I think that question is meant for you
[18:06] <akgraner> doctormo, novice - I need to learn more stuff :-) (totally selfish request there)
[18:07] <doctormo> akgraner: How did the UDS semi-session pan out for you?
[18:08] <akgraner> good but I need some more pointers
[18:08] <akgraner> at least that was enough to get me started
[18:08] <vish> jcastro: try getting mairin to do it... ;)
[18:09] <akgraner> but in a hurry I still use GIMP more often than inkscape
[18:09] <vish> doctormo: seen mizmo's blog about those inkspace clases?
[18:09] <akgraner> and I know inkscape would be better for most of the things I am wanting to do (fliers, cards, certificates etc)
[18:09] <doctormo> akgraner: Where you at UDS?
[18:10]  * doctormo thought you were
[18:10] <akgraner> I was...:-P
[18:11] <akgraner> and I am able to do some simple stuff... but I need some refreshers and more pointers
[18:14] <vish> akgraner: this is a nice series : http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/01/08/inkscape-class-day-1/
[18:14] <jcastro> doctormo: openweek is the week after release, so I'm shooting for classes that are like "ok, I've got a shiny new OS, now what can I DO with it?"
[18:14] <vish> i havent gone through all the the
[18:14] <vish> all the days though..
[18:14] <akgraner> vish thanks!
[18:15] <vish> np..
[18:15] <akgraner> I absolutely *hated* inkscape before doctormo gave us a quick 15-20 minute tutorial at uds
[18:18] <pleia2> me too
[18:19] <AlanBell> me three (although I didn't get to the doctormo masterclass)
[18:20] <AlanBell> it just needs that little bit of hand holding to get started
[18:21] <AlanBell> although doing freehand art stuff with it is still another world to me
[18:23] <akgraner> AlanBell, I am not even ready to think about freehand art  - I do well to make a stick figure look right  O.o
[18:23] <AlanBell> I couldn't do a stick figure
[18:23] <doctormo> AlanBell: Did you go to school?
[18:24] <doctormo> AlanBell: Because most kids at school learn to draw up to the age of 8-10 and then stop because of peer and self-presure.
[18:24] <AlanBell> I was rubbish at art
[18:24] <AlanBell> I could do technical drawing, isometric 3d stuff
[18:25] <doctormo> Then mental block is easy to understand, we're not born skilled at drawing, no one is. It's persistence and an ability to be complacent about how rubbish our drawings are.
[18:25] <doctormo> Accepting and continuing to draw :-) that's the plan.
[18:33] <vish> can someone answer the question on -meeting ?
[18:33] <vish> akgraner / czajkowski / jcastro ^?
[18:33] <akgraner> vish, just did
[18:33] <vish> thx .. :)
[18:34] <paultag> heyya akgraner
[18:34] <akgraner> paultag, hey!
[18:34] <paultag> akgraner, hows life?
[18:35] <akgraner> paultag, getting better daily :-)
[18:35] <paultag> :D
[18:37] <akgraner> paultag, thanks to the talk I gave at OLF and the emails I have gotten sense I am working on a From Burnout to Balance series  - still nervous about talking about it all so publicly but it should be good
[18:38] <paultag> akgraner, if you want to use me as an example that's 100% fine, I have no problem with talking about that kind of stuff
[18:38] <paultag> akgraner, ( only if that will help )
[18:39] <akgraner> :-)
[18:39] <akgraner> The feedback has been awesome!! Thanks for helping with the talk...
[18:39] <paultag> akgraner, I did nothing! Just gave out free stuff ( what I do best, really )
[18:41] <akgraner> and took pics and gave moral support!
[18:42] <paultag> :)
[18:43] <akgraner> cough jcastro cough ... missed the talk :-P
[18:43] <jcastro> BARK BARK sorry amber BARK BARK
[18:44] <akgraner> I was just teasing you!
[18:44] <akgraner> :-P
[18:44] <akgraner> well gotta finish these posts bbiab :-)
[18:47] <sense> good evening
[18:51] <duanedesign> good evening
[18:53] <czajkowski> jono: still on for later?
[18:56] <czajkowski> dinda: is it ok to edit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Education/UbuntuSchools  learning hub is Limerick not Dublin
[18:56] <jcastro> hi sense
[18:56] <sense> hi jcastro!
[18:56] <jcastro> hey sense, are you on the deluge app indicators?
[18:56] <jcastro> because I have karl standing by but didn't want to step on your toes
[18:57] <maco> czajkowski: is a wiki. is what its for!
[18:57] <sense> jcastro: I haven't given it much attention lately, so if Karl is ready to work on it, I have no objections. I'm right in the middle of moving to a different place and preparing a university application, so my time is limited.
[18:58] <sense> jcastro: You still have the links to the bugs and branches concering the Deluge AppInd?
[18:58] <jcastro> sec
[18:59] <czajkowski> maco: was asking in case she knew of another one other then the one in Limerick :)
[18:59] <czajkowski> maco: there is usually method to my crazyness :)
[19:10] <sense> Is Ustream down? I cannot view the page of Jono's show.
[19:15] <doctormo> Does anyone know much about qemu? I can't seem to ssh into my emulated server :-( unlike VirtualBox which can get an IP from my Eth network.
[19:22] <popey> yes
[19:22] <popey> how did you start qemu? what networking options?
[19:22] <popey> if nothing then qemu starts firewalled/natted off from your network with a 10.x.x.x address internally
[19:23] <dinda> czajkowski: yes, please feel free to edit wiki
[19:23] <popey> you have to explicitly tell it if you want to open a port to 22 on the box or if you want to make it publicly accessible on your lan dinda
[19:23] <popey> er doctormo
[19:23] <popey> sorry dinda :)
[19:24] <vish> highvoltage: could you reply to the mail on -artwork? something hinting at "yeah we are thinking about a direction, we'd let you know"  so that it is more clearer to everyone that you guys are on board ;)
[19:24] <doctormo> popey: I see, I've been reading some guides, it seems like I need to set up a tum/tap networking bridge which doesn't look like it's supported by NetworkManager
[19:24] <dinda> popey:  np
[19:24] <doctormo> Which would mean ripping out ubuntu infrastructure :-(
[19:24] <popey> doctormo: that used to be the case, but I don't think you need to do that anymore
[19:24] <doctormo> So using qemulator
[19:25] <dinda> doctormo: I have friend selling a whole set of "how to draw manga" books, like 13 or so, if you know someone who might be interested
[19:25] <doctormo> dinda: Where abouts are they based?
[19:25] <popey> is there a specific reason for choosing qemu doctormo ?
[19:25] <paultag> hey nigelb, I got some voodoo working :)
[19:25] <dinda> doctormo: seattle/portland - let me check
[19:25] <doctormo> popey: dog-fooding FOSS stuff.
[19:26] <popey> does the machine have vt extensions doctormo ?
[19:27] <dinda> doctormo: Eugene, OR
[19:30] <jcastro> <-- caffeine refill bbi 10minutes
[19:34] <highvoltage> vish: will do! I'm in the middle of a bunch of kernel updates for clients so I'll do it a bit later today, but if I forget feel free to pest :)
[19:35] <vish> sure.. ;)
[19:37] <popey> doctormo: personally I'd use virtualbox or kvm rather than qemu, both of which are FOSS
[19:37] <doctormo> popey: I think I've learned enough about qemu, I'll move back to VB
[19:37] <popey> :)
[19:44] <doctormo> dinda: Is facebook down? I'm getting a timeout
[19:46] <popey> wfm
[19:47] <dinda> doctormo: fine here too
[19:47] <dinda> maco:  question about one of your flickr photos
[19:47] <maco> dinda: aye?
[19:47] <dinda> maco:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/maco_nix/3472747840/
[19:48] <dinda> maco:  did he ever get membership?
[19:48] <maco> dinda: yes. he's now a motu and a DD
[19:48] <dinda> maco:  wow, he looks really young
[19:48] <paultag> doctormo, I'm getting a timeout too
[19:48] <doctormo> dinda: Can you screenshot and send to me?
[19:48] <maco> he just turned 17 2 months ago, so i guess he was 15 or so at the time? maybe 14?
[19:49] <maco> 2008, so 15
[19:49] <sense> He's about my age!
[19:49] <dinda> maco:  wondering if he and you would mind if we used that pic as part of some promotional material for ubuntu in education
[19:50] <vish> sense: yea.. you are young too ;)
[19:50] <maco> dinda: i dont mind
[19:50]  * dinda is trying to find good pics to show ubuntu being used in schools, by kids
[19:50] <maco> he's afk right now (probably in class) tu-motuht
[19:50] <maco> wahh
[19:51] <doctormo> dinda: Do you have any pics from the MA school?
[19:51] <maco> he's afk right now (probably in class) but you can catch him on #ubuntu-motu later tonight
[19:51] <doctormo> Mark Shuttleworth visited that school and I bet there are pics
[19:51] <dinda> doctormo: nope, would love them
[19:53] <doctormo> dinda: I don't have any, but I'm sure they exist.
[19:53] <dinda> doctormo: I saw reference to that visit in the forums but no links to photos. will ask around
[19:56] <doctormo> dinda: http://baronselva.edublogs.org/files/2007/11/img_1489.jpg
[20:02] <dinda> doctormo: thanks, contacted the blog author to see about the license
[20:06] <doctormo> popey, pleia2: I'm building a version of librsvg for servers, so it can be used with gnome, gtk deps. What should I call it and should I attempt to get it into debian somehow?
[20:06] <popey> doctormo: "NotPornViewOhNoCertainlyNot"
[20:07] <pleia2> doctormo: assuming the gtk deps are ok with debian, you should absolutely attempt to get it there too
[20:07] <doctormo> without*
[20:07] <popey> +1
[20:07] <doctormo> currently it has gnome and gtk deps, but I'm removing them.
[20:08] <pleia2> oh, gotcha
[20:08] <pleia2> maybe librsvg-nogtk ?
[20:08] <doctormo> It's only because it has a gnome theme engine and a tool in librsvg2-bin which is gtk based. There is no reason for it otherwise.
[20:08] <pleia2> like libgpod4 and libgpod4-nogtk
[20:09] <jcastro> hey popey
[20:09] <jcastro> have you checked oneconf lately?
[20:09] <popey> nope
[20:09] <popey> not tried it at all actually
[20:09] <jcastro> nor me
[20:11] <czajkowski> popey: skype or mumble
[20:11] <popey> czajkowski: need to reboot, will use skype
[20:11] <popey> brb
[20:13] <popey> bah, installing skype czajkowski
[20:14] <czajkowski> hehe
[20:14] <czajkowski> poor popey
[20:21] <maco> doctormo: mark with hair!
[20:23] <AlanBell> just a rounding error by your standards though
[20:28] <maco> hahaha
[20:31] <sense> I'm off, good night everyone! Don't go to bed too late, sleep well and don't forget to turn on your alarm clocks!
[21:46] <doctormo> I failed to extract gtk from librsvg :-( It's just too ingrained. This is my problem with the gnome project, they produce libs which are fantastically useful but with needless dependancies. installing librsvg for instance needs hicolour icons, avahi and libgtk-bin for some unknown reasons.
[21:47] <jono> czajkowski, can we do our call in 5mins or so?
[21:49] <czajkowski> sure
[21:50] <czajkowski> just buzz when ready
[21:52] <jono> czajkowski, just wrapping something
[21:54] <czajkowski> jono: no bother , you've mail to go wit it
[21:54] <jono> cheers
[22:36] <ScottL> jcastro, i would be willing to do that, i will need to coordinate the time with family though
[22:37] <ScottL> jcastro, i'll look at the schedule tonight
[22:47] <jcastro> ScottL: think of it as a recruiting opportunity. :D
[22:50] <ScottL> jcastro, :)
[22:57] <nhandler> jcastro: I would need to talk to the rest of the classroom people (we have a meeting tonight), but do you think a session about giving classroom sessions would be helpful? I haven't checked, but I don't think we have had one for a while (if at all). It would also be a chance to remind people about the tools/resources that they have available
[22:58] <jcastro> nhandler: maybe as an individual session prior to openweek?
[22:58] <jcastro> to prep people?
[22:58] <jcastro> I think that would be great
[22:59] <nhandler> jcastro: Great. And do you know who is going to be doing the daily summary blog posts? It would be great to have them posted on ubuntuclassroom.wordpress.com with our other classroom stuff
[22:59] <jcastro> not sure
[22:59] <jcastro> probably me or akgraner
[23:04] <nhandler> jcastro: When you guys figure that out, poke someone in #ubuntu-classroom-backstage so we can make sure you are able to post to that blog
[23:20] <ScottL> jcastro, if you ever need to get a hold of me quicker than i responded today anyone call look for 'scott-work', atta be me :)
[23:23]  * cjohnston notes to bug scott-work
[23:24] <cjohnston> ;-)