[00:00] <godbyk> that's no good then
[00:01] <godbyk> jenkins: run 'sudo texhash' (with no args)
[00:01] <godbyk> then try 'kpsewhich ccicons.sty' again (from the root dir)
[00:02] <jenkins> now kpse... works
[00:04] <jenkins> how do we get launchpad to run "make" ? and then extract the pdf?
[00:04] <dutchie> you specify it in the debian/rules file
[00:05] <jenkins> ok I have no clue how to do that.
[00:06] <dutchie> heh
[00:06] <jenkins> I will finish the ccicons stuff tomorrow as I will fall asleep at work at this rate. I just have this one bug left as everything else is ok
[00:06] <dutchie> http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html#s-debianrules
[00:07] <jenkins> thanks dutchie we will have to work together on that one
[00:07] <jenkins> night all
[00:07] <dutchie> yeah, nighty
[00:07] <dutchie> er, night
[01:32] <Andre_Gondim> godbyk, did you see if are there something wrong?
[01:42] <godbyk> the translations from launchpad haven't shown up in my inbox yet.
[01:50] <Andre_Gondim> ok
[08:17] <ChrisWoollard> ping: godbyk
[08:17] <ChrisWoollard> Happy Birthday!
[08:33] <thorwil> oha!
[08:33] <thorwil> godbyk: happy birthday!
[08:50] <humphreybc> godbyk: happy birthday
[08:50] <humphreybc> how everyone knew it was your birthday, I don't know :P
[10:49] <ChrisWoollard> it is listed on his skype account
[10:54] <nisshh> oh awesome! happy bday godbyk!
[10:54] <nisshh> its mine in just over a week as well :)
[15:17] <godbyk> thanks, guys!
[16:04] <ChrisWoollard> no problem
[18:45] <jenkins> evening all
[18:45]  * jenkins starts on ccicons
[18:54]  * flan does... work.
[19:00] <thorwil> good evening!
[19:03] <jenkins> hey thorwil
[19:09] <jenkins> can anyone who is running maverick who would be able to test the ccicons package please pm me their e-mail
[19:09] <jenkins> they will also need latex in some form
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[19:55] <jenkins> AlanBell: I have got ccicons 90% finished I am just trying to fix one more lithian tag about the copyright. As ubuntu is in feture freeze how are we going to get the package for it into maverick? Do you know any motu's that would sponsor it to make it quicker?
[19:55] <jenkins> *99%
[19:59] <AlanBell> jenkins: is it going in to Universe?
[20:00] <jenkins> well I guessed its that or debian. what other ways are there I ahev never tried to get a package in before
[20:02] <jenkins> I guess it depends on how quickly we want to get a package in for the manual
[20:02] <AlanBell> I don't think it is going to get in to Maverick to be honest
[20:03] <AlanBell> getting stuff in not via Debian is not being encouraged
[20:03] <AlanBell> so this should go to Debian TeX Maintainers I assume
[20:04] <jenkins> I thought debian may be the way Iwill go and read about getting stuff in there. I just need to fix this no-copyright-file lithan tag .
[20:05] <AlanBell> jenkins: for Maverick and the possible post-release application process (which the manual might be barred from) could the ccicons content be stuffed into the package with the manual?
[20:05] <AlanBell> which would have to be packaged for /opt anyhow?
[20:06] <jenkins> its not ideal not sure it would be liked but. I don't see why it can't be done
[20:07] <AlanBell> ok, lets hold that as a possibility then
[20:07] <jenkins> k thanks Alan
[20:08] <AlanBell> the thing to do is get that ccicons into Debian and get it synced early in the Natty cycle
[20:08] <AlanBell> then get the manual package into Ubuntu (which won't go via Debian - but has a good reason not to)
[20:09] <jenkins> yep, do does debian have different repos like we do multiverse universe etc?
[20:10] <AlanBell> not sure, but their tex list seems active http://lists.debian.org/debian-tex-maint/2010/09/threads.html
[20:13] <jenkins> thanks I will look into it
[20:18] <godbyk> The ccicons bit is only needed for compilation -- not for end users of the manual.
[20:18] <godbyk> Also, doesn't it seem a bit strange to try to submit the Ubuntu manual to Debian for inclusion in Ubuntu?
[20:19] <godbyk> It serves no purpose to Debian -- only Ubuntu.
[20:19] <jenkins> the manual will not go to debian ccicons can
[20:19] <jenkins> and will fingures crossed
[20:19] <godbyk> jenkins: Ah, gotcha. Yeah, ccicons should be folded into one of the other texlive-* packages, ultimately.
[20:20] <godbyk> Do you know if the Debian folks are packaging TeX Live 2010 yet?
[20:20] <jenkins> I was expecting you to say that. erm not sure I will look
[20:22] <jenkins> godbyk: http://lists.debian.org/debian-tex-maint/2010/09/threads.html ctrl + f for 2010 they are working on it
[20:22] <jenkins> iguess
[20:26] <thorwil> godbyk: just pushed updated title page templates
[20:26] <godbyk> So what options exist these days to get periodic updates to (specifically, texlive) packages more frequently than every six months?
[20:26] <godbyk> thorwil: awesome! thanks!
[20:27] <godbyk> thorwil: I'm sure you'll be hearing from humphreybc soon. ;-)
[20:27] <thorwil> godbyk: but bzr told me about missing SVGs, all the ones without "template" in the name (except the lulu one)
[20:27] <jenkins> godbyk: pass unsure, I think packaing texlive is a complex job
[20:28] <thorwil> godbyk: problem is i have not the slightest clue why, how this happened
[20:29] <godbyk> thorwil: when did it you tell about missing svgs? got any (error/info/whatever) messages I can google?
[20:30] <thorwil> godbyk: it told me on commit. could be that i meant to remove them with bzr rm, but messed that up
[20:31] <godbyk> thorwil: that's possible. if you removed files with rm but didn't use bzr rm, then bzr might whine that it can't find those files.
[20:31] <godbyk> thorwil: you could run
[20:31] <godbyk>  bzr revert FILES
[20:31] <godbyk> to bring them back
[20:31] <godbyk> then 'bzr rm' them.
[20:33] <thorwil> godbyk: we have nothing that relies on the non-template files (except lulu)?
[20:34] <thorwil> does no good to spread such work over too many short sprints :/
[20:34] <godbyk> thorwil: I use title_page_a4_en.pdf and title_page_letter_en.pdf as fallbacks (if the titlepage-LANGCODE.pdf file doesn't exist)
[20:34] <godbyk> thorwil: lemme see what the script uses to autogenerate the baselines for other languages.
[20:35] <godbyk> thorwil: ah, the script uses title_page_a4_template.svg, title_page_a4_right-to-left_template.svg
[20:35] <godbyk> and
[20:35] <godbyk> title_page_letter_template.svg
[20:35] <godbyk> but really, we can change the file names of any and all of those things.
[20:36] <thorwil> if i try to revert, bzr tells me the paths are not versioned. how the heck can they be missing then?
[20:37] <thorwil> godbyk: no, it's fine then. except there currently are no title_page_a4_en.pdf and title_page_letter_en.pdf
[20:38] <godbyk> thorwil: okay, I'll look into that.
[20:40] <thorwil> godbyk: the lp file listing is identical to mine here, so all is well. wicked bzr confusing me like that!
[20:42] <thorwil> godbyk: ping me if you need those 2 PDFs. would streamline things if we don't
[20:51] <jenkins> I have contacted the latex guys about ccicons we shall see what they say
[21:02] <godbyk> thorwil: yeah, I'm happy to reduce the number of PDFs to a minimum.
[21:03] <godbyk> The extra ones just confuse me.
[21:03] <godbyk> jenkins: cool.
[21:04] <jenkins> i would like the to say just put a ccicons package in. that way I will have a package in debian \o/ :)
[21:05] <godbyk> jenkins: It *might* be possible to drop all the ccicons files into the same directory as ubuntu-manual.cls and compile it that way. But I make not promises.
[21:05] <godbyk> (The biggest issue would be getting the mapping stuff to work..)
[21:06] <jenkins> I would prefer to do it the right way
[21:07] <jenkins> I think the less things that can be faulted with the package when we try and get it in the better.
[21:10] <godbyk> jenkins: agreed
[21:11] <jenkins> are you a memeber of the list godbyk?
[21:12] <godbyk> jenkins: The List?
[21:12] <godbyk> Sounds ominous.
[21:12] <jenkins> the debian tex maintaners mailing list :)
[21:13] <godbyk> jenkins: Ah, nope.
[21:13] <godbyk> I could subscribe, though.
[21:13] <jenkins> http://lists.debian.org/debian-tex-maint/ if you wish
[21:14] <godbyk> thanks
[21:16] <godbyk> subscribed.
[21:20] <jenkins> cool
[21:39] <Andre_Gondim> godbyk, did you see if have syntax problem in pt_BR?
[21:39] <godbyk> Andre_Gondim: I never got the translation file from Launchpad.
[21:40] <Andre_Gondim> =/
[21:40] <godbyk> I'll resubmit the request and see if it comes through this time.
[21:40] <godbyk> (Usually it comes through in 10 minutes or less.)
[21:40] <godbyk> Andre_Gondim: which branch were you working on again?
[21:41] <Andre_Gondim> let me c, just a minute
[21:42] <Andre_Gondim> godbyk, https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/lucid-e1/+pots/ubuntu-manual/pt_BR/+translate
[21:43] <godbyk> okay
[21:44] <godbyk> I've requested the lucid-e1 translations.
[21:44] <godbyk> They should show up soon.
[21:47] <Andre_Gondim> ;)
[21:47] <godbyk> Just received it.
[21:48] <godbyk> Let me unzip it and compile it for ya.
[21:52] <godbyk> Andre_Gondim: There's a \dash that's misspelled as \dah.
[21:52] <godbyk> Some context:
[21:52] <godbyk> ...garantia de segurança\dah ao invés em vez...
[21:55] <Andre_Gondim> godbyk, fixed it
[21:55] <godbyk> Let me fix it locally and then I'll see what other errors exist.
[21:57] <godbyk> another bug:
[21:57] <godbyk> the following string ends with a closing parenthesis ) but it should be a closing brace }.
[21:58] <godbyk> \marginnote{Você também pode usar os atalhos de teclado \keystroke{Ctrl+C} e \\keystroke{Ctrl+V} para copiar e colar arquivos e pastas.)
[21:59] <godbyk> Andre_Gondim: another:  "\menu{Editar \e então Localizar próxima}"  \e should be \then.
[22:00] <godbyk> Andre_Gondim: Change ) to } again:  "Selecione \menu{Arquivo \e então clique em Salvar como) na barra de menu."  Also \e → \then.
[22:01] <Andre_Gondim> ok
[22:02] <godbyk> Andre_Gondim: Forgot the closing brace }: "Pãgina do Rhythmbox: \url{http://projects.gnome.org/rhythmbox"
[22:05] <godbyk> Andre_Gondim: There are some bugs in the \newglossaryentry translations, too.
[22:06] <godbyk> Andre_Gondim: for 'ambiente de trabalho', ensure that the first occurrence is *not* translated.
[22:06] <godbyk> Andre_Gondim: So it should be \newglossaryentry{desktop environment}{name={ambiente de trabalho}, description={...translated description...}}
[22:07] <godbyk> Same with Porta Ethernet entry
[22:07] <godbyk> And prorpietário
[22:08] <godbyk> And conexão sem fios
[22:10] <godbyk> Andre_Gondim: Changes all occurrences of \e to \then.
[22:12] <godbyk> Andre_Gondim: Change \gls{conexão de rede com fio} to \gls{wired connection}.
[22:13] <godbyk> Andre_Gondim: \Idots should be \ldots.  (Not a capital I, but a lowercase L.)
[22:13] <Andre_Gondim> hmmmmmm after gls{string} this string isn't translatable?
[22:14] <godbyk> Andre_Gondim: Correct.  \gls{do not translate this}
[22:14] <godbyk> Andre_Gondim: After you fix all those, it'll compile correctly.
[22:32] <godbyk> Andre_Gondim: Have I scared you off completely yet? :-)
[22:32] <Andre_Gondim> no, I needed this to fix it all problem
[22:32] <Andre_Gondim> ;)
[22:44] <Andre_Gondim> godbyk, I think I fix all problem, can you check it? ... how may I check this?
[22:45] <godbyk> Andre_Gondim: I think I have to wait a while before I can check it.  (It takes Launchpad some time to incorporate your changes in to the translation file it sends me.)
[22:46] <Andre_Gondim> ok