| dpm | fta, fta2, hey, good morning. Ok, now both the FF and TB pages are made into a table | 09:24 |
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| fta2 | dpm, great | 09:24 |
| fta2 | grrrr /usr/include/cairo/cairo.h:1976: error: comma at end of enumerator list | 10:22 |
| fta2 | prevents me from building my projects with -werror -pedantic | 10:23 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: do you mind if I update deejayd over the weekend? | 11:37 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - no, that should be ok | 12:13 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: k | 12:13 |
| bdrung_ | hi micahg and chrisccoulson. can you have a look at bug #645339? | 16:55 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 645339 in mozilla-devscripts (Ubuntu) "Drop transitional and removed packages from Recommends (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/645339 | 16:55 |
| micahg | bdrung_: I can run the rebuilds this weekend | 16:56 |
| bdrung_ | micahg: for some of the main packages we need an ACK from ubuntu-release | 16:58 |
| * micahg just found another thing that needs to be added from the mozilla-packageset | 16:58 | |
| micahg | *to | 16:58 |
| micahg | bdrung_: ubufox will need one, what else is in main? | 16:58 |
| bdrung_ | micahg: mozilla-devscripts ;) | 16:58 |
| bdrung_ | bindwood | 16:59 |
| micahg | bdrung_: yeah, that's why it's not in the packageset ATM :( | 16:59 |
| micahg | bdrung_: no, that's in universe | 16:59 |
| bdrung_ | micahg: strange: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bindwood | 16:59 |
| micahg | the only other extension in main that I know of is mozvoikko | 16:59 |
| micahg | bdrung_: says universe | 17:00 |
| micahg | hmm | 17:00 |
| micahg | says main on top and universe for each release | 17:00 |
| micahg | bdrung_: karmic updates were accidentally published to main | 17:00 |
| bdrung_ | aha | 17:01 |
| micahg | bdrung_: should we add a task for ubufox? | 17:02 |
| micahg | so they can ack both | 17:02 |
| bdrung_ | micahg: yes | 17:03 |
| bdrung_ | micahg: i already thought that we should open task for all affected extensions after we got the ack | 17:03 |
| micahg | bdrung_: well, they need to ack the ones in main, the universe ones I don't think need an ack | 17:03 |
| chrisccoulson | please don't do a rebuild of ubufox just yet, there's another change that needs to in before release | 17:08 |
| chrisccoulson | *needs to go in | 17:09 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: k | 17:10 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks :) | 17:10 |
| chrisccoulson | we need to update the start page URL (when it goes live) | 17:10 |
| chrisccoulson | i pinged someone in OLS about that a couple of days ago | 17:10 |
| bdrung_ | chrisccoulson: k | 17:12 |
| chrisccoulson | bdrung_, i might want to make some changes to mozilla-devscripts in the next couple of weeks (or at the start of natty) | 17:15 |
| chrisccoulson | to add support for packed extensions in FF4.0 | 17:16 |
| chrisccoulson | although, i've not tried those out just yet | 17:16 |
| micahg | bdrung_: I have to run right now, I'll check back later to see if I need to do anything | 17:16 |
| micahg | BTW, if you need an example, all-in-one-sidebar hasn't been rebuilt since 0.21 | 17:17 |
| * micahg will bbiab | 17:17 | |
| micahg | bdrung_: ^^^ | 17:18 |
| bdrung_ | chrisccoulson: do you have push rights? | 17:18 |
| chrisccoulson | bdrung_, in debian? nope ;) | 17:19 |
| chrisccoulson | or you mean to bzr? | 17:19 |
| bdrung_ | chrisccoulson: to the bzr branch | 17:20 |
| chrisccoulson | bdrung_, yeah, i can push to bzr | 17:20 |
| bdrung_ | chrisccoulson: just push your changes there and let me know once m-d needs to be released to debian. i will review it and upload it. are you DM or DD? | 17:22 |
| chrisccoulson | bdrung_, i'm not ;) | 17:22 |
| bdrung_ | chrisccoulson: so: become one! ;) | 17:23 |
| chrisccoulson | :) | 17:23 |
| fta | http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/09/16/comic-the-difference-between-android-and-iphone-this-pretty-much-sums-it-up/ :) | 17:34 |
| micahg | bdrung_: so we're good for the rebuild? | 18:37 |
| bdrung_ | micahg: i think so. | 18:38 |
| micahg | bdrung_: k, I'll be offline from this evening through Sat night, but will check over the weekend for 0.24 and if it's there, rebuild the universe extensions | 18:39 |
| bdrung_ | micahg: thanks | 18:40 |
| micahg | bdrung_: do you want me to take care of the eclipse -7 update as well? | 18:45 |
| bdrung_ | micahg: eclipse -7? | 18:46 |
| micahg | bdrung_: 3.5.2-7 was uploaded to sid | 18:46 |
| bdrung_ | micahg: but there is no reason for pulling it into maverick, are there? | 18:46 |
| bdrung_ | micahg: otherwise we have to pull lucene2 2.9.3+ds1-1 | 18:47 |
| micahg | bdrung_: ah, that's the part I didn't check yet | 18:47 |
| micahg | I wanted to see if we needed something like that | 18:47 |
| bdrung_ | micahg: we could pull the *squeeze1 packages (eclipse and lucene2) | 18:48 |
| bdrung_ | micahg: feel free to do that | 18:48 |
| Dimmuxx | hmm it seems that #438868 behaves different in firefox 4 | 18:48 |
| micahg | bdrung_: that was my next thought | 18:48 |
| micahg | bdrung_: the version in maverick should be sufficient | 18:49 |
| micahg | according to the depends | 18:49 |
| Dimmuxx | instead of not showing hits it just replaces the letter you write all the time so s->a->v->.. | 18:49 |
| micahg | lucene I mean | 18:49 |
| bdrung_ | micahg: "Made (Build)-Depends on lucene2 and sat4j stricter" means that eclipse will complain if you want to install a newer lucene2 or sat4j version | 18:50 |
| micahg | from testing: adep: liblucene2-java (>= 2.9.2+ds1) | 18:50 |
| micahg | liblucene2-java | 2.9.2+ds1-1 | maverick/universe | all | 18:50 |
| micahg | same for sat4j | 18:51 |
| micahg | bdrung_: if you don't think we need that, then I won't do it | 18:51 |
| bdrung_ | micahg: we could need it and as you wrote the uploads to testing-proposed-updates can be used for maverick. | 18:52 |
| micahg | bdrung_: k, so if you like, I"ll make sure it builds and then request the sync | 18:52 |
| bdrung_ | micahg: good plan | 18:53 |
| micahg | bdrung_: I like to keep things as close to Debian barring Freeze violations | 18:53 |
| bdrung_ | micahg: me too | 18:54 |
| micahg | Now, I just need to get more involved in Debian, so it's a simple sync vs merge for most things | 18:55 |
| micahg | bdrung_: any idea when iceweasel 3.6 will transition to sid? | 19:00 |
| bdrung_ | micahg: after squeeze is released | 19:00 |
| micahg | :( | 19:01 |
| bdrung_ | micahg: that's due to xulrunner. they want only one version of xulrunner in the archive | 19:01 |
| micahg | that means most likely, we'll need to do the extension updates in Ubuntu first and then update Debian once 4.0 is in experimental | 19:01 |
| micahg | bdrung_: we'll be discussing the transition at UDS | 19:03 |
| bdrung_ | micahg: what speaks against doing the extension update in debian? will the updates support 4.0, but drop support for 3.5? | 19:05 |
| bdrung_ | micahg: BTW, UDS - what's the status of having scripts for browser plugins? | 19:06 |
| fta | hmm, my ssh server is slow to accept connections today.. regression? | 19:08 |
| fta | timeout on avahi-daemon.. interesting | 19:09 |
| fta | indeed, killing avahi-daemon fixed it | 19:10 |
| micahg | bdrung_: that's fine if it works :) | 19:12 |
| micahg | bdrung_: some extensions might drop support for 3.x, that's what I"m worried about | 19:13 |
| micahg | bdrung_: you mean the idea I had before the last UDS, I guess I can look into it before UDS, that would be nice to have since we have to migrate everything this cycl | 19:14 |
| micahg | e | 19:14 |
| bdrung_ | micahg: if they do, we will have to do more work | 19:14 |
| bdrung_ | micahg: yes, bug #516350 | 19:15 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 516350 in mozilla-devscripts "provide plugin build/install assistance (affects: 1) (heat: 2)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/516350 | 19:15 |
| micahg | bdrung_: yeah, i can try to look at that after Maverick release | 19:15 |
| bdrung_ | ok | 19:16 |
| micahg | I'll be working up to the deadline of fixing stuff for maverick, trying to sync/merge RC fixes | 19:16 |
| fta | jdstrand, hi. Please correct me if i'm wrong but if i understand the minutes of the last TB meeting correctly, 1/ chromium is doomed to stay in universe forever - no main, no default, ever, 2/ it should fallback to no system libs at all and 3/ no more SRU, just blind uploads. Is that correct? | 22:12 |
| jdstrand | fta: I think 'forever' for '1' is not quite accurate. certainly for now | 22:13 |
| jdstrand | fta: '2' fallback, yes, but can continue to use them as long as it doesn't cause problems | 22:13 |
| jdstrand | fta: '3' that I was not clear on, since it didn't get added to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates/MicroReleaseExceptions | 22:14 |
| jdstrand | fta: but bzr did | 22:14 |
| jdstrand | fta: I can follow up on that | 22:15 |
| fta | jdstrand, please do. | 22:15 |
| jdstrand | 16:16 < kees> jdstrand: I think a final proposal needs to be made by fta to TB, which includes the feedback given during the last meeting. | 22:16 |
| fta | jdstrand, uh? what info should i provide that has not already been provided by chrisccoulson, you and kees? | 22:21 |
| jdstrand | fta: I guess you need a formal request that meets the criteria in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates/MicroReleaseExceptions along with any other pertinent information | 22:23 |
| jdstrand | fta: I've not requested one before. you might ask kees or pitti or someone else on the TB for more info | 22:23 |
| fta | ok, i'll try that. thanks | 22:32 |
| chrisccoulson | bdrung_, did m-d get sync'd? | 22:34 |
| chrisccoulson | not yet, it seems | 22:34 |
| chrisccoulson | i need to upload ubufox to switch the start page really :/ | 22:35 |
| bdrung_ | chrisccoulson: rhetorical questions... | 22:35 |
| chrisccoulson | actually, it's not live yet | 22:35 |
| bdrung_ | chrisccoulson: i could use syncpackage | 22:35 |
| chrisccoulson | but it will be soon :) | 22:35 |
| bdrung_ | chrisccoulson: or ask an archive admin | 22:35 |
| bdrung_ | chrisccoulson: how will the start page look like? | 22:36 |
| chrisccoulson | bdrung_, AFAIK, it's mostly the same (but it has a new URL) | 22:36 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm not entirely sure there though | 22:36 |
| fta | jdstrand, upstream just landed libsrtp in trunk, i assume there's no point trying to bend the build system to make it use our system libsrtp0, right? | 22:37 |
| chrisccoulson | i need to make this automated really, so we don't have to keep updating ubufox to pick up the new start page | 22:37 |
| fta | (assuming it's even the same lib) | 22:38 |
| jdstrand | fta: if google plans to maintain it as part of chromium, then I suppose not, no | 22:39 |
| fta | jdstrand, they actively maintain all the libs they host in their tree, and that's quite a lot: http://src.chromium.org/svn/trunk/src/DEPS | 22:40 |
| bdrung_ | jdstrand: here's ^ the reason why i like to get it processed | 22:41 |
| fta | bdrung_, referring to chromium? | 22:43 |
| bdrung_ | fta: no, referring to my discussion with chrisccoulson about mozilla-devscripts | 22:44 |
| fta | oh, n-m then | 22:44 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, fta, sorry, i've not looked at the TB discussion for a few days now. is there anything i need to be doing? | 22:45 |
| bdrung_ | fta: n-m? | 22:46 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, i have to admit what i read from the minutes makes me wonder if chromium is really welcome. the PPAs seem to be enough | 22:46 |
| fta | bdrung_, never-mind | 22:46 |
| bdrung_ | k | 22:46 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, but at the same time, there's not enough resources with the number of daily recipes and translation jobs taking over the build farm | 22:47 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - yeah, that's a real pain right now. i noticed it with the mozilla dailies too | 22:48 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, not to mention that PPAs only attract techies, not regular & casual users | 22:48 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - are you still building for jaunty? | 22:48 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, yes but i think i should stop | 22:48 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - yeah, you should stop jaunty on all dailies really, that's going EOL in a few weeks anyway | 22:49 |
| bdrung_ | chrisccoulson: thanks to jdstrand: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mozilla-devscripts/0.24 | 22:49 |
| chrisccoulson | also, i'm wondering whether there's any value in doing the ff-4.0 dailies on anything earlier than lucid | 22:49 |
| chrisccoulson | seeing as those releases will never see ff-4.0, and most users running the dailies aren't going to be using hardy or karmic | 22:49 |
| bdrung_ | chrisccoulson: valid reason | 22:50 |
| fta | i wanted to extract some stats from lp but it's not ready. i keep pushing the lp guys to complete the task though | 22:52 |
| fta | seems the remaining work is trivial | 22:53 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, that would be useful | 22:53 |
| fta | i'll try again tomorrow morning | 22:55 |
| fta | fta@cube:/data/bot/confs $ perl -i -pe "s/, 'jaunty'//" *.conf | 22:56 |
| fta | done | 22:56 |
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