[09:24] fta, fta2, hey, good morning. Ok, now both the FF and TB pages are made into a table [09:24] dpm, great [10:22] grrrr /usr/include/cairo/cairo.h:1976: error: comma at end of enumerator list [10:23] prevents me from building my projects with -werror -pedantic [11:37] chrisccoulson: do you mind if I update deejayd over the weekend? [12:13] micahg - no, that should be ok [12:13] chrisccoulson: k [16:55] hi micahg and chrisccoulson. can you have a look at bug #645339? [16:55] Launchpad bug 645339 in mozilla-devscripts (Ubuntu) "Drop transitional and removed packages from Recommends (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/645339 [16:56] bdrung_: I can run the rebuilds this weekend [16:58] micahg: for some of the main packages we need an ACK from ubuntu-release [16:58] * micahg just found another thing that needs to be added from the mozilla-packageset [16:58] *to [16:58] bdrung_: ubufox will need one, what else is in main? [16:58] micahg: mozilla-devscripts ;) [16:59] bindwood [16:59] bdrung_: yeah, that's why it's not in the packageset ATM :( [16:59] bdrung_: no, that's in universe [16:59] micahg: strange: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bindwood [16:59] the only other extension in main that I know of is mozvoikko [17:00] bdrung_: says universe [17:00] hmm [17:00] says main on top and universe for each release [17:00] bdrung_: karmic updates were accidentally published to main [17:01] aha [17:02] bdrung_: should we add a task for ubufox? [17:02] so they can ack both [17:03] micahg: yes [17:03] micahg: i already thought that we should open task for all affected extensions after we got the ack [17:03] bdrung_: well, they need to ack the ones in main, the universe ones I don't think need an ack [17:08] please don't do a rebuild of ubufox just yet, there's another change that needs to in before release [17:09] *needs to go in [17:10] chrisccoulson: k [17:10] thanks :) [17:10] we need to update the start page URL (when it goes live) [17:10] i pinged someone in OLS about that a couple of days ago [17:12] chrisccoulson: k [17:15] bdrung_, i might want to make some changes to mozilla-devscripts in the next couple of weeks (or at the start of natty) [17:16] to add support for packed extensions in FF4.0 [17:16] although, i've not tried those out just yet [17:16] bdrung_: I have to run right now, I'll check back later to see if I need to do anything [17:17] BTW, if you need an example, all-in-one-sidebar hasn't been rebuilt since 0.21 [17:17] * micahg will bbiab [17:18] bdrung_: ^^^ [17:18] chrisccoulson: do you have push rights? [17:19] bdrung_, in debian? nope ;) [17:19] or you mean to bzr? [17:20] chrisccoulson: to the bzr branch [17:20] bdrung_, yeah, i can push to bzr [17:22] chrisccoulson: just push your changes there and let me know once m-d needs to be released to debian. i will review it and upload it. are you DM or DD? [17:22] bdrung_, i'm not ;) [17:23] chrisccoulson: so: become one! ;) [17:23] :) [17:34] http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/09/16/comic-the-difference-between-android-and-iphone-this-pretty-much-sums-it-up/ :) [18:37] bdrung_: so we're good for the rebuild? [18:38] micahg: i think so. [18:39] bdrung_: k, I'll be offline from this evening through Sat night, but will check over the weekend for 0.24 and if it's there, rebuild the universe extensions [18:40] micahg: thanks [18:45] bdrung_: do you want me to take care of the eclipse -7 update as well? [18:46] micahg: eclipse -7? [18:46] bdrung_: 3.5.2-7 was uploaded to sid [18:46] micahg: but there is no reason for pulling it into maverick, are there? [18:47] micahg: otherwise we have to pull lucene2 2.9.3+ds1-1 [18:47] bdrung_: ah, that's the part I didn't check yet [18:47] I wanted to see if we needed something like that [18:48] micahg: we could pull the *squeeze1 packages (eclipse and lucene2) [18:48] micahg: feel free to do that [18:48] hmm it seems that #438868 behaves different in firefox 4 [18:48] bdrung_: that was my next thought [18:49] bdrung_: the version in maverick should be sufficient [18:49] according to the depends [18:49] instead of not showing hits it just replaces the letter you write all the time so s->a->v->.. [18:49] lucene I mean [18:50] micahg: "Made (Build)-Depends on lucene2 and sat4j stricter" means that eclipse will complain if you want to install a newer lucene2 or sat4j version [18:50] from testing: adep: liblucene2-java (>= 2.9.2+ds1) [18:50] liblucene2-java | 2.9.2+ds1-1 | maverick/universe | all [18:51] same for sat4j [18:51] bdrung_: if you don't think we need that, then I won't do it [18:52] micahg: we could need it and as you wrote the uploads to testing-proposed-updates can be used for maverick. [18:52] bdrung_: k, so if you like, I"ll make sure it builds and then request the sync [18:53] micahg: good plan [18:53] bdrung_: I like to keep things as close to Debian barring Freeze violations [18:54] micahg: me too [18:55] Now, I just need to get more involved in Debian, so it's a simple sync vs merge for most things [19:00] bdrung_: any idea when iceweasel 3.6 will transition to sid? [19:00] micahg: after squeeze is released [19:01] :( [19:01] micahg: that's due to xulrunner. they want only one version of xulrunner in the archive [19:01] that means most likely, we'll need to do the extension updates in Ubuntu first and then update Debian once 4.0 is in experimental [19:03] bdrung_: we'll be discussing the transition at UDS [19:05] micahg: what speaks against doing the extension update in debian? will the updates support 4.0, but drop support for 3.5? [19:06] micahg: BTW, UDS - what's the status of having scripts for browser plugins? [19:08] hmm, my ssh server is slow to accept connections today.. regression? [19:09] timeout on avahi-daemon.. interesting [19:10] indeed, killing avahi-daemon fixed it [19:12] bdrung_: that's fine if it works :) [19:13] bdrung_: some extensions might drop support for 3.x, that's what I"m worried about [19:14] bdrung_: you mean the idea I had before the last UDS, I guess I can look into it before UDS, that would be nice to have since we have to migrate everything this cycl [19:14] e [19:14] micahg: if they do, we will have to do more work [19:15] micahg: yes, bug #516350 [19:15] Launchpad bug 516350 in mozilla-devscripts "provide plugin build/install assistance (affects: 1) (heat: 2)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/516350 [19:15] bdrung_: yeah, i can try to look at that after Maverick release [19:16] ok [19:16] I'll be working up to the deadline of fixing stuff for maverick, trying to sync/merge RC fixes [22:12] jdstrand, hi. Please correct me if i'm wrong but if i understand the minutes of the last TB meeting correctly, 1/ chromium is doomed to stay in universe forever - no main, no default, ever, 2/ it should fallback to no system libs at all and 3/ no more SRU, just blind uploads. Is that correct? [22:13] fta: I think 'forever' for '1' is not quite accurate. certainly for now [22:13] fta: '2' fallback, yes, but can continue to use them as long as it doesn't cause problems [22:14] fta: '3' that I was not clear on, since it didn't get added to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates/MicroReleaseExceptions [22:14] fta: but bzr did [22:15] fta: I can follow up on that [22:15] jdstrand, please do. [22:16] 16:16 < kees> jdstrand: I think a final proposal needs to be made by fta to TB, which includes the feedback given during the last meeting. [22:21] jdstrand, uh? what info should i provide that has not already been provided by chrisccoulson, you and kees? [22:23] fta: I guess you need a formal request that meets the criteria in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates/MicroReleaseExceptions along with any other pertinent information [22:23] fta: I've not requested one before. you might ask kees or pitti or someone else on the TB for more info [22:32] ok, i'll try that. thanks [22:34] bdrung_, did m-d get sync'd? [22:34] not yet, it seems [22:35] i need to upload ubufox to switch the start page really :/ [22:35] chrisccoulson: rhetorical questions... [22:35] actually, it's not live yet [22:35] chrisccoulson: i could use syncpackage [22:35] but it will be soon :) [22:35] chrisccoulson: or ask an archive admin [22:36] chrisccoulson: how will the start page look like? [22:36] bdrung_, AFAIK, it's mostly the same (but it has a new URL) [22:36] i'm not entirely sure there though [22:37] jdstrand, upstream just landed libsrtp in trunk, i assume there's no point trying to bend the build system to make it use our system libsrtp0, right? [22:37] i need to make this automated really, so we don't have to keep updating ubufox to pick up the new start page [22:38] (assuming it's even the same lib) [22:39] fta: if google plans to maintain it as part of chromium, then I suppose not, no [22:40] jdstrand, they actively maintain all the libs they host in their tree, and that's quite a lot: http://src.chromium.org/svn/trunk/src/DEPS [22:41] jdstrand: here's ^ the reason why i like to get it processed [22:43] bdrung_, referring to chromium? [22:44] fta: no, referring to my discussion with chrisccoulson about mozilla-devscripts [22:44] oh, n-m then [22:45] jdstrand, fta, sorry, i've not looked at the TB discussion for a few days now. is there anything i need to be doing? [22:46] fta: n-m? [22:46] chrisccoulson, i have to admit what i read from the minutes makes me wonder if chromium is really welcome. the PPAs seem to be enough [22:46] bdrung_, never-mind [22:46] k [22:47] chrisccoulson, but at the same time, there's not enough resources with the number of daily recipes and translation jobs taking over the build farm [22:48] fta - yeah, that's a real pain right now. i noticed it with the mozilla dailies too [22:48] chrisccoulson, not to mention that PPAs only attract techies, not regular & casual users [22:48] fta - are you still building for jaunty? [22:48] chrisccoulson, yes but i think i should stop [22:49] fta - yeah, you should stop jaunty on all dailies really, that's going EOL in a few weeks anyway [22:49] chrisccoulson: thanks to jdstrand: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mozilla-devscripts/0.24 [22:49] also, i'm wondering whether there's any value in doing the ff-4.0 dailies on anything earlier than lucid [22:49] seeing as those releases will never see ff-4.0, and most users running the dailies aren't going to be using hardy or karmic [22:50] chrisccoulson: valid reason [22:52] i wanted to extract some stats from lp but it's not ready. i keep pushing the lp guys to complete the task though [22:53] seems the remaining work is trivial [22:53] yeah, that would be useful [22:55] i'll try again tomorrow morning [22:56] fta@cube:/data/bot/confs $ perl -i -pe "s/, 'jaunty'//" *.conf [22:56] done