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ograhmm, did someone turn off image autobuilds ? i got no images butu i also got no failre mails09:35
* ogra checks on antimony09:35
Riddellimages seem to be building today09:38
ograhmm, nothing obvious and a manual build seems to be running fine09:41
ograweird09:41
sistpoty|workcjwatson: can you moderate my mail regarding delegates to u-d-a please?10:32
cjwatsonsistpoty|work: dodne10:49
cjwatsondone10:49
sistpoty|workthanks cjwatson10:50
bdrung_is bug #640682 ok?11:30
ubot4Launchpad bug 640682 in ibus-unikey (Ubuntu) "Please sync 0.5-2 from debian unstable (affects: 2) (heat: 22)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/64068211:30
micahgcould someone please look at bug 63183611:32
ubot4Launchpad bug 631836 in activeldap (Ubuntu) "FFe: Sync activeldap 1.2.2-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main) (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 255)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/63183611:32
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dokoBinary only promotions to main16:00
doko ------------------------------16:00
doko o libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental                                         {mesa}16:00
doko   [Reverse-Depends: libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental-dbg]16:00
dokocjwatson: ok to demote these?16:00
cjwatsonYM promote?16:00
cjwatsoner, I think so, but I was holding off on that one because I vaguely recall there being a bug about it16:01
cjwatsonanyone know?16:01
dokowell, the eperimental doesn't encourage me16:03
Riddellyes there was a bug16:21
Riddellbryce wanted it in universe16:22
Riddellbug 63809716:22
ubot4Launchpad bug 638097 in mesa (Ubuntu) "Universe binary demotion request for libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental (affects: 1) (heat: 491)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/63809716:22
Riddellmoved libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental-dbg to universe16:23
dokoRiddell: libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental too?16:24
Riddellyes16:24
cjwatsonRiddell: I think it needs seed mangling to make sure it stays there16:25
cjwatsongiven that it's showing up in component-mismatches16:25
Riddelleven now that libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental-dbg is also demoted?16:26
cjwatsonyes.  component-mismatches does not consider what is currently in main, it considers what it thinks should be in main and compares16:26
cjwatsonyou shouldn't close such a bug until component-mismatches says that you can demote the package16:26
cjwatsonI'll sort it out16:28
RiddellI see, the -dbg package gets pulled in because it's -dbg and it needs an Extra-exclude16:30
cjwatsonright, that's what I'm doing now16:30
bdrung_can a release team member have a look at bug #645339?16:58
ubot4Launchpad bug 645339 in mozilla-devscripts (Ubuntu) "Drop transitional and removed packages from Recommends (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/64533916:58
cjwatsonbdrung_: is it a good idea to drop these recommends in maverick?  I'd have thought it would be generally good to keep them for partial upgrades and the like17:04
cjwatsonbdrung_: for the purposes of NBS, we can consider these as false positives ...17:04
micahgcjwatson: they were all transitional packages in Lucid17:05
cjwatsonbdrung_: I don't actually object to the change I suppose, but you shouldn't do it if NBS is the only reason17:05
cjwatsonbdrung_: ok17:05
cjwatsonthen I guess it's fair enough17:06
bdrung_cjwatson: the NBS is mostly the reason (having useless items in recommends). one benefit of rebuilding (all) extension is to let them pick up the benefits of the newer version of mozilla-devscripts17:07
bdrung_cjwatson: and it will make sure that coming SRUs won't hit any issues (and SRUs will come once firefox-4.0 comes to maverick)17:10
cjwatsonwhat other benefits?17:11
cjwatsonyou only list one changes17:11
cjwatsonchange17:11
cjwatsonIOW, what set of changes am I accepting here if I ack rebuilding all the extensions?17:11
cjwatsonyour bug didn't mention that there was an ulterior motive17:12
micahgbdrung_: firefox-4.0 isn't coming to maverick17:12
bdrung_micahg: really? will maverick EOL before firefox 3.6 EOL?17:12
micahgbdrung_: well, we'll jump to 4.1 probably, but everything will need updates most likely17:13
bdrung_cjwatson: some changes in mozilla-devscripts 0.2117:13
micahgbdrung_: we have 0.23 in maverick17:14
cjwatsonI think the implication is that extensions haven't been rebuilt for a while?17:14
cjwatsonbut I'd really prefer somebody to actually be clear about this17:14
bdrung_yes, some packages may weren't rebuild after the release of m-d 0.2317:14
bdrung_yes, some packages may weren't rebuild after the release of m-d 0.2117:15
bdrung_cjwatson: before releasing m-d 0.21 i did a rebuild test with all extensions.17:15
cjwatsonI can see the changelog but I don't have the background to work out what it all means for extensions.  Please try to explain in plain English in the bug what the effects of rebuilding extensions will be17:15
bdrung_cjwatson: it will add a configuration file in /etc/xul-ext (if has a config file) and will install the extension into /usr/share/xul-ext/<package> instead of /usr/share/xul-ext-<package>17:17
cjwatsonin the bug, please?17:18
bdrung_cjwatson: done17:23
bdrung_can a release team member have a look at bug #643691? ubuntu-dev-tools should be ready now.17:32
ubot4Launchpad bug 643691 in ubuntu-dev-tools (Ubuntu) "FFe: Please sync ubuntu-dev-tools 0.103 (universe) from Debian experimental (main) (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/64369117:32
ScottKbdrung_: Does this have the fixes for the problems found in yesterday's testing?17:50
bdrung_ScottK: yes17:53
ScottKOK.  I'll have a look.17:53
bdrung_ScottK: and even more bug fixes17:54
ScottKbdrung_: Approved.17:56
bdrung_ScottK: thanks17:56
ScottKNo problem.17:56
ScottKbdrung_: Since you're going to be uploading this in Debian now, I'll warn you that it is quite normal for people to commit a lot of not tested, barely functional changes to u-d-t, so I wasn't suprised the testing found problems.  Be careful.17:57
bdrung_ScottK: ok, i will remember that.17:58
ScottKSeveral cycles ago I got annoyed by it and started testing it.  Once I had upwards of a dozen bugs filed I got tired and quit.18:03
bdrung_ScottK: the package needs test suites18:08
bdrung_cjwatson: we still have the ACK for m-d from you?18:38
dokocjwatson: is it ok to accept the llvm-defaults binaries in NEW?19:56
cjwatsonbdrung_: for m-d itself, but I haven't acked the extensions rebuild yet.  will look in a bit19:57
cjwatsondoko: I never accept binaries from something I uploaded.  I can have a look at yours after dinner19:58
dokocjwatson: no. just wanted you to review them19:59
ScottKIs the queuebot off on purpose?20:11
cjwatsonScottK: no, it dies if something goes wrong with my connection20:44
cjwatsonI should probably make it wait for a while and retry20:45
ScottKThanks.20:45
cjwatsonhm, arguably I should make it not do that on startup, too20:45
dokonot unbusy20:46
cjwatsonmaybe I ought to run it on chiark or something20:46
cjwatsondon't like running irc bots on company equipment20:46
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DavieyHi friendly release team.  jdstrand has uploaded a fix for bug #628055... (^^ from queue-bot).  Would it be possible for that to be accepted in time for daily iso build?22:34
ubot4Launchpad bug 628055 in libvirt (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 3 other projects) "Instances don't start correctly on 32bit systems with large disk files (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62805522:34
Daviey(Justification, currently UEC on i386 is pointless)22:35
ScottKLooking.22:35
jdstrandits more than just UEC, but that is probably more than enough22:35
jdstrands/its/it's/22:35
Davieyoh yeah, sure.22:35
Davieyjdstrand, I don't see any other teams sponsoring you at the bar, for uploading that...   So UEC is the prime target :)22:36
jdstrandhehe22:36
bdrung_any archive admin here?22:36
jdstrandbdrung_: it is not my day, but what do you need?22:37
bdrung_jdstrand: i like to get mozilla-devscripts 0.24 synced (ACKed in bug #645339)22:37
ubot4Launchpad bug 645339 in ubufox (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Drop transitional and removed packages from Recommends (affects: 1) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/64533922:37
ScottKDaviey (and jdstrand): Accepted.22:38
DavieyScottK, \o/22:38
DavieyThanks ScottK22:38
jdstrandScottK: thanks :)22:39
ScottKDaviey: You're welcome. (jdstrand too).22:39
jdstrandbdrung_: I can do that22:39
bdrung_jdstrand: why?22:39
jdstrandbdrung_: because you asked me to?22:39
jdstrandI suppose I don't have to...22:40
bdrung_jdstrand: it's the second time this day that i misread something22:40
jdstrand:)22:40
bdrung_which inverted the meaning :)22:40
jdstrandbdrung_: so just so we are clear. you *would* like me to tend to bug 645339?22:40
ubot4Launchpad bug 645339 in ubufox (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Drop transitional and removed packages from Recommends (affects: 1) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/64533922:40
bdrung_jdstrand: yes :)22:41
jdstrandbdrung_: done22:47
bdrung_jdstrand: thanks22:48

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