| Muscovy | I see I missed a busy few hours last night. | 00:07 |
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| UndiFineD | indeed you did | 00:46 |
| UndiFineD | updating my eeepc, at misses request, and I am going to make a virtualbox for screenshots | 00:48 |
| Muscovy | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTour/Screenshots has screenshot spec stuff. | 01:01 |
| Muscovy | There's a handy ISO linked on there with the latest themes and stuff, plus the user ubuntu_tour. | 01:02 |
| UndiFineD | thanks | 01:03 |
| UndiFineD | save me some trouble | 01:03 |
| Muscovy | I was actually just about to boot into it to take some. | 01:04 |
| Muscovy | What were you planning on covering? | 01:04 |
| Muscovy | I thought I'd clean up the old/incorrect-user ones on about-ubuntu. | 01:04 |
| UndiFineD | dutch | 01:05 |
| UndiFineD | I hate the ones I made before | 01:05 |
| UndiFineD | and making them in a vm is required for context menu's | 01:06 |
| Muscovy | Context menus? | 01:06 |
| UndiFineD | besides that, it will be lower resolution too, as my 1920x1050 is a bit much | 01:06 |
| UndiFineD | like clicking on the network icon, or selecting properties on a file/folder | 01:07 |
| UndiFineD | 1265 kB/s, very nice | 01:09 |
| UndiFineD | not the fastest, but pretty good | 01:09 |
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| UndiFineD | i hate doing updates for the eeepc, it is such a long time taking process | 01:28 |
| UndiFineD | doing 450 updates is slower than downloading and installing a new iso | 01:29 |
| Muscovy | :| | 01:43 |
| Muscovy | I only did one dist upgrade, then I learned that. | 01:44 |
| Muscovy | A cronjob of apt-get update && apt-get upgrade -y might be handy for updates to the eeepc. | 01:45 |
| Muscovy | I would do that with my computer, but I tinker enough to need to see the updates. | 01:46 |
| undifined_ | well, I don't want it to do all updates just because there is this minor thing | 01:52 |
| undifined_ | it has been a few weeks / months since last update | 01:52 |
| === undifined_ is now known as UndiFineD | ||
| Muscovy | 'night all. | 04:42 |
| Muscovy | I've done some screenshot fixing updates. | 04:42 |
| Muscovy | Hopefully tomorrow I can get on taking new ones. | 04:42 |
| MadnessRed | hi | 18:07 |
| Omega | Hey | 18:09 |
| webrsk | Hi MadnessRed :) I would like to have a quick discussion with you. | 19:36 |
| MadnessRed | sure | 19:36 |
| MadnessRed | how can I help? | 19:36 |
| webrsk | I would like to contribute more in programming . | 19:36 |
| MadnessRed | ok, do you know python? | 19:37 |
| webrsk | Ya I have built some tools using Python , PyGtk :) | 19:38 |
| MadnessRed | ok kl, | 19:39 |
| webrsk | More exp in Php/MySQL but not sure that will be useful for ubuntu-tour .. :) | 19:39 |
| MadnessRed | well php implies html/javascript knowledge which could be useful for making the tour side look pretty | 19:40 |
| MadnessRed | but you are welcome to help with the project, many thanks for your offer :) | 19:41 |
| MadnessRed | do you know how bzr works? | 19:41 |
| webrsk | Yes i just updated 2 revision on our branch .. | 19:42 |
| webrsk | I got the code played a bit with it :) | 19:42 |
| MadnessRed | ok kl | 19:43 |
| MadnessRed | what did you do? | 19:43 |
| webrsk | :) | 19:43 |
| webrsk | I just updated the css heading and changed the image path :) | 19:44 |
| MadnessRed | ok | 19:44 |
| MadnessRed | if you look at tour.py, near the bottom it makes a html page | 19:45 |
| webrsk | Because im not sure about the plans for the backend..So i just want to have a discuss with you after that can proceed based on the priority :) | 19:45 |
| MadnessRed | ok | 19:45 |
| webrsk | yes the start.html acts like a header and end.html acts like a footer for the html pages.. | 19:47 |
| MadnessRed | im not sure what the plans are at the moment, there have been a few mockup's going round the mailing list | 19:47 |
| MadnessRed | but I think for now we need to get the tours worked out, do you know regex? | 19:48 |
| webrsk | ok !! regex ya worked on php but not in python , but its manageable :) | 19:50 |
| MadnessRed | ok | 19:52 |
| MadnessRed | could you create a regex find replace in tour.py, near the bottom in the format html section, | 19:53 |
| MadnessRed | and expect a tag like: | 19:53 |
| MadnessRed | <screenshot width="100" height="100" tooltip="Screenshot" src="images/screen.png" /> | 19:54 |
| MadnessRed | and change it into a image, inside an a, and when the a is clicked on, it opens something like lightbox, which will show a larger preview | 19:54 |
| MadnessRed | so change it to something like: | 19:55 |
| MadnessRed | <a href="#" onclick="lightbox('images/screen.png'); return false" tooltip="Screenshot"><img width="100" height="100" src="images/screen.png" /></a> | 19:56 |
| MadnessRed | just to make it easier for tour designers to add screenshots which would have a consistent look | 19:56 |
| webrsk | :) :) Sure , Ill try it out ..... so inside parse_html function ? | 19:56 |
| webrsk | ya its a good idea our regex will surely help for this :) | 19:57 |
| MadnessRed | yes please, I think regex is the best way to do it, but I never really got regex, | 19:57 |
| MadnessRed | I think if you could find <screenshot *** /> And you found the start and end of that tag, it would be fairly easy to do, you could also specify default screenshot widths and heights | 19:58 |
| webrsk | yes you are right :) I got the logic ... | 19:58 |
| webrsk | but as of now there is no page using screenshot tag . am i right ? | 19:59 |
| MadnessRed | no, | 20:00 |
| MadnessRed | sorry yes you are right, there are no pages | 20:00 |
| webrsk | ok so once we implement this function , we can ask user to add a tag like screenshot wherever its required. | 20:01 |
| MadnessRed | also the tooltip="" is not correct, but I am planning another replace using wz_tooltip | 20:01 |
| MadnessRed | yep | 20:01 |
| MadnessRed | I will also convert a few of the tutorials, to use it, to show how it works | 20:01 |
| MadnessRed | if you want there is a tour called html-test, feel free to put any tests/demos in there | 20:02 |
| webrsk | ok :) sure ill make use of it.. And one more thing guess for tooltip and lightbox there is no code in the present revision , so i shall add a style for it !! rite.. | 20:04 |
| MadnessRed | yes please | 20:05 |
| webrsk | Cool then :) | 20:05 |
| Phaiax | @webrsk: i've purposely set the img path to ../en. It schould be easy to copy for other language editors. So they don't come up with the idea to copy the whole image in their own language-image-folder. | 20:06 |
| MadnessRed | :) thanks, if you need anything feel free to ask, | 20:07 |
| webrsk | Hello Phaix : Is that so. I have checked the other pages but it has been set to images so i thought to make it unique.. | 20:07 |
| MadnessRed | if I am not on my email is madnessred [at] gmail [dot] com | 20:07 |
| webrsk | Sure MadnessRed, Nice to meet you here :) will mail you once im done with it :) | 20:07 |
| MadnessRed | ok thanks, | 20:08 |
| webrsk | @Phaiax: Each language will have their own screenshots where textual content is applied and for general images it can be common. correct me if im wrong. ! | 20:11 |
| Phaiax | i'dont know if i understand you correctly, but if i do, i would say: you're right | 20:14 |
| Phaiax | but there is the point where to put common images | 20:14 |
| Phaiax | i tought they belong in the english folder because 'en' is ubuntus default fallback language | 20:15 |
| Phaiax | but we can also create a language independent image folder... | 20:16 |
| Phaiax | i'm not a softwaredesigner (but programmer and my design is sometimes terrible) ... so i'm not shure what to do | 20:16 |
| webrsk | I can understand your design and plans for the language/images. | 20:18 |
| webrsk | Let me give an example : The top panel image is now parked in images folder , but actually it should be in en/images folder because the screenshot is in english. | 20:22 |
| webrsk | @Phaiax: is that right ? | 20:23 |
| webrsk | because that image is common for all languages!! for spanish there will be a different image. | 20:24 |
| Phaiax | it is currently in the en/images folder | 20:24 |
| Phaiax | there is currently no common folder or am i wrong | 20:25 |
| webrsk | ok yes you are right !! | 20:25 |
| webrsk | :) | 20:25 |
| Phaiax | okay | 20:27 |
| Phaiax | Notice for all: The paser translates all line-breaks in source into real linebreaks in the view (I don't know why, but it does). That means: no linebreakes on the top of the source code | 20:29 |
| Phaiax | first line should be: <h2>Title</h2><div>Text of first paragraph..... foobaa..... all without linebreaks | 20:29 |
| webrsk | You are right Phaiax , actually in about-ubuntu without linebreak it has been written , so like that it need to be follow on remaining topics. | 20:33 |
| MadnessRed | It only parses linebreaks if you give it a plain text file | 21:22 |
| MadnessRed | html file, which end .html do not do this | 21:22 |
| MadnessRed | the idea is that you put plain text files without a suffix and html files with the suffix | 21:23 |
| Phaiax | ah | 21:40 |
| Phaiax | and is there a reason why we don't do that? | 21:41 |
| Phaiax | that means we schould rename all files with html code to .html | 21:42 |
| UndiFineD | good evening :) | 21:45 |
| UndiFineD | seen the topic MadnessRed ? | 21:45 |
| Phaiax | and best use <p>tags for paragrapfs | 21:45 |
| MadnessRed | oh thanks :), | 21:46 |
| MadnessRed | no I didn't see that the topic wasn't expanded so I couldn't see the end | 21:46 |
| UndiFineD | I had asked ChipX86 about the issue | 21:46 |
| UndiFineD | he wrote it | 21:46 |
| UndiFineD | so libsexy moved on into libsexy2 | 21:47 |
| UndiFineD | and python-sexy integrated with gtk | 21:48 |
| UndiFineD | but I am sure, if you have some questions he can anwers them | 21:48 |
| MadnessRed | ok thanks :) | 21:56 |
| UndiFineD | Phaiax, I wonder about chapter 12 for about-ubuntu .. as it is a duplicate for what is in chapter 9 | 21:57 |
| UndiFineD | as you undid my doings :) | 21:57 |
| Phaiax | yeah, i know... i'm translating the german part currently | 21:58 |
| Phaiax | did i? | 21:58 |
| UndiFineD | yes, revisions 178 and 179 | 21:58 |
| Phaiax | :-D Sorry, this was the first time i use bzr... | 21:59 |
| UndiFineD | either, the panel propersites should be separate, but in chapeter 10 | 21:59 |
| UndiFineD | or just merge with 9 | 21:59 |
| UndiFineD | same here | 21:59 |
| Phaiax | i'v testet in my +junk rep with merges and co... but i am confused a little bit | 21:59 |
| Phaiax | ... | 22:00 |
| UndiFineD | it is ok, I think it is a great learning xp for starting bzaar | 22:00 |
| UndiFineD | well, if you have questions, just ask, I did my translation tasks into dutch very quickly (2 days) and now I need to get those screenshots done | 22:02 |
| MadnessRed | i gtg, be back soon | 22:03 |
| UndiFineD | I am waiting a bit for the english texts to have settled a bit, so I can check my wordings later | 22:03 |
| UndiFineD | have fun MadnessRed | 22:03 |
| UndiFineD | what is the package name for the virtualbox gui machine manager ? | 22:05 |
| Phaiax | VirtualBox case sensitive: big V | 22:07 |
| Phaiax | maybe i hate bzr | 22:08 |
| UndiFineD | I normally do: bzr pull && bzr add && bzr commit -m "" && bzr push lp:ubuntu-tour | 22:15 |
| UndiFineD | filling the comment ofcourse | 22:15 |
| UndiFineD | so I always pull before i submit | 22:15 |
| UndiFineD | and by pulling first without immediate commit, I can see what has changed before I push | 22:16 |
| UndiFineD | and do something about my changes that may be in conflict with what others did | 22:17 |
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| UndiFineD | handcounted 25 unique persons that submitted | 22:20 |
| UndiFineD | that is about 30% of the people that signed up | 22:22 |
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