[00:07] I see I missed a busy few hours last night. [00:46] indeed you did [00:48] updating my eeepc, at misses request, and I am going to make a virtualbox for screenshots [01:01] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTour/Screenshots has screenshot spec stuff. [01:02] There's a handy ISO linked on there with the latest themes and stuff, plus the user ubuntu_tour. [01:03] thanks [01:03] save me some trouble [01:04] I was actually just about to boot into it to take some. [01:04] What were you planning on covering? [01:04] I thought I'd clean up the old/incorrect-user ones on about-ubuntu. [01:05] dutch [01:05] I hate the ones I made before [01:06] and making them in a vm is required for context menu's [01:06] Context menus? [01:06] besides that, it will be lower resolution too, as my 1920x1050 is a bit much [01:07] like clicking on the network icon, or selecting properties on a file/folder [01:09] 1265 kB/s, very nice [01:09] not the fastest, but pretty good === UndiFineD changed the topic of #ubuntu-tour to: The Ubuntu Tour Project! | http://ubuntutour.org | http://openetherpad.org/GUNcK2dx75?| Join https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-tour | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTour/Todo#List | MadnesRed python-sexy moved into gtk === UndiFineD changed the topic of #ubuntu-tour to: The Ubuntu Tour Project! | http://ubuntutour.org | http://openetherpad.org/GUNcK2dx75?| Join https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-tour | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTour/Todo#List | MadnessRed python-sexy moved into gtk [01:28] i hate doing updates for the eeepc, it is such a long time taking process [01:29] doing 450 updates is slower than downloading and installing a new iso [01:43] :| [01:44] I only did one dist upgrade, then I learned that. [01:45] A cronjob of apt-get update && apt-get upgrade -y might be handy for updates to the eeepc. [01:46] I would do that with my computer, but I tinker enough to need to see the updates. [01:52] well, I don't want it to do all updates just because there is this minor thing [01:52] it has been a few weeks / months since last update === undifined_ is now known as UndiFineD [04:42] 'night all. [04:42] I've done some screenshot fixing updates. [04:42] Hopefully tomorrow I can get on taking new ones. [18:07] hi [18:09] Hey [19:36] Hi MadnessRed :) I would like to have a quick discussion with you. [19:36] sure [19:36] how can I help? [19:36] I would like to contribute more in programming . [19:37] ok, do you know python? [19:38] Ya I have built some tools using Python , PyGtk :) [19:39] ok kl, [19:39] More exp in Php/MySQL but not sure that will be useful for ubuntu-tour .. :) [19:40] well php implies html/javascript knowledge which could be useful for making the tour side look pretty [19:41] but you are welcome to help with the project, many thanks for your offer :) [19:41] do you know how bzr works? [19:42] Yes i just updated 2 revision on our branch .. [19:42] I got the code played a bit with it :) [19:43] ok kl [19:43] what did you do? [19:43] :) [19:44] I just updated the css heading and changed the image path :) [19:44] ok [19:45] if you look at tour.py, near the bottom it makes a html page [19:45] Because im not sure about the plans for the backend..So i just want to have a discuss with you after that can proceed based on the priority :) [19:45] ok [19:47] yes the start.html acts like a header and end.html acts like a footer for the html pages.. [19:47] im not sure what the plans are at the moment, there have been a few mockup's going round the mailing list [19:48] but I think for now we need to get the tours worked out, do you know regex? [19:50] ok !! regex ya worked on php but not in python , but its manageable :) [19:52] ok [19:53] could you create a regex find replace in tour.py, near the bottom in the format html section, [19:53] and expect a tag like: [19:54] [19:54] and change it into a image, inside an a, and when the a is clicked on, it opens something like lightbox, which will show a larger preview [19:55] so change it to something like: [19:56]

[19:56] just to make it easier for tour designers to add screenshots which would have a consistent look [19:56] :) :) Sure , Ill try it out ..... so inside parse_html function ? [19:57] ya its a good idea our regex will surely help for this :) [19:57] yes please, I think regex is the best way to do it, but I never really got regex, [19:58] I think if you could find And you found the start and end of that tag, it would be fairly easy to do, you could also specify default screenshot widths and heights [19:58] yes you are right :) I got the logic ... [19:59] but as of now there is no page using screenshot tag . am i right ? [20:00] no, [20:00] sorry yes you are right, there are no pages [20:01] ok so once we implement this function , we can ask user to add a tag like screenshot wherever its required. [20:01] also the tooltip="" is not correct, but I am planning another replace using wz_tooltip [20:01] yep [20:01] I will also convert a few of the tutorials, to use it, to show how it works [20:02] if you want there is a tour called html-test, feel free to put any tests/demos in there [20:04] ok :) sure ill make use of it.. And one more thing guess for tooltip and lightbox there is no code in the present revision , so i shall add a style for it !! rite.. [20:05] yes please [20:05] Cool then :) [20:06] @webrsk: i've purposely set the img path to ../en. It schould be easy to copy for other language editors. So they don't come up with the idea to copy the whole image in their own language-image-folder. [20:07] :) thanks, if you need anything feel free to ask, [20:07] Hello Phaix : Is that so. I have checked the other pages but it has been set to images so i thought to make it unique.. [20:07] if I am not on my email is madnessred [at] gmail [dot] com [20:07] Sure MadnessRed, Nice to meet you here :) will mail you once im done with it :) [20:08] ok thanks, [20:11] @Phaiax: Each language will have their own screenshots where textual content is applied and for general images it can be common. correct me if im wrong. ! [20:14] i'dont know if i understand you correctly, but if i do, i would say: you're right [20:14] but there is the point where to put common images [20:15] i tought they belong in the english folder because 'en' is ubuntus default fallback language [20:16] but we can also create a language independent image folder... [20:16] i'm not a softwaredesigner (but programmer and my design is sometimes terrible) ... so i'm not shure what to do [20:18] I can understand your design and plans for the language/images. [20:22] Let me give an example : The top panel image is now parked in images folder , but actually it should be in en/images folder because the screenshot is in english. [20:23] @Phaiax: is that right ? [20:24] because that image is common for all languages!! for spanish there will be a different image. [20:24] it is currently in the en/images folder [20:25] there is currently no common folder or am i wrong [20:25] ok yes you are right !! [20:25] :) [20:27] okay [20:29] Notice for all: The paser translates all line-breaks in source into real linebreaks in the view (I don't know why, but it does). That means: no linebreakes on the top of the source code [20:29] first line should be:

Title

Text of first paragraph..... foobaa..... all without linebreaks [20:33] You are right Phaiax , actually in about-ubuntu without linebreak it has been written , so like that it need to be follow on remaining topics. [21:22] It only parses linebreaks if you give it a plain text file [21:22] html file, which end .html do not do this [21:23] the idea is that you put plain text files without a suffix and html files with the suffix [21:40] ah [21:41] and is there a reason why we don't do that? [21:42] that means we schould rename all files with html code to .html [21:45] good evening :) [21:45] seen the topic MadnessRed ? [21:45] and best use

tags for paragrapfs [21:46] oh thanks :), [21:46] no I didn't see that the topic wasn't expanded so I couldn't see the end [21:46] I had asked ChipX86 about the issue [21:46] he wrote it [21:47] so libsexy moved on into libsexy2 [21:48] and python-sexy integrated with gtk [21:48] but I am sure, if you have some questions he can anwers them [21:56] ok thanks :) [21:57] Phaiax, I wonder about chapter 12 for about-ubuntu .. as it is a duplicate for what is in chapter 9 [21:57] as you undid my doings :) [21:58] yeah, i know... i'm translating the german part currently [21:58] did i? [21:58] yes, revisions 178 and 179 [21:59] :-D Sorry, this was the first time i use bzr... [21:59] either, the panel propersites should be separate, but in chapeter 10 [21:59] or just merge with 9 [21:59] same here [21:59] i'v testet in my +junk rep with merges and co... but i am confused a little bit [22:00] ... [22:00] it is ok, I think it is a great learning xp for starting bzaar [22:02] well, if you have questions, just ask, I did my translation tasks into dutch very quickly (2 days) and now I need to get those screenshots done [22:03] i gtg, be back soon [22:03] I am waiting a bit for the english texts to have settled a bit, so I can check my wordings later [22:03] have fun MadnessRed [22:05] what is the package name for the virtualbox gui machine manager ? [22:07] VirtualBox case sensitive: big V [22:08] maybe i hate bzr [22:15] I normally do: bzr pull && bzr add && bzr commit -m "" && bzr push lp:ubuntu-tour [22:15] filling the comment ofcourse [22:15] so I always pull before i submit [22:16] and by pulling first without immediate commit, I can see what has changed before I push [22:17] and do something about my changes that may be in conflict with what others did === UndiFineD changed the topic of #ubuntu-tour to: The Ubuntu Tour Project! | http://ubuntutour.org | http://openetherpad.org/GUNcK2dx75?| Join https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-tour | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTour/Todo#List [22:20] handcounted 25 unique persons that submitted [22:22] that is about 30% of the people that signed up