=== AndrewMC is now known as SpockVulcan [00:00] christophoros: then its all right I guess [00:01] yep [00:01] ill install compiz when updates finish installing right ? [00:02] christophoros: you already have it [00:02] that what ubuntu calls desktop effects [00:02] cant see it anywhere [00:02] ah [00:03] christophoros: its because ubuntu default settings are well less that optiomal [00:03] shouldnt on visual effects when i choose Extra to show me a box that says cstumize? [00:03] christophoros: install simple-cssm for that [00:04] and ill be able to turn desktops like a cube ? [00:04] and all the other [00:04] sure, its all in the settings [00:04] these aren't enabled I don't know why [00:04] buggy [00:04] ok thats nice [00:05] and from where i can download dock bar ? [00:05] and some gadgets ? [00:05] seen some ubuntu in youtube having them [00:05] christophoros: I don't know any decent doc bar to be honest [00:05] awn [00:06] christophoros: there are few, they look cool, but as you start using them, its not that good [00:06] https://launchpad.net/awn [00:06] yep, I used awn [00:06] hello [00:06] i isntalled ubuntu 10.10 beta, now i cant login because i have no image... i only see white screen with some messed up objects [00:07] ePirat: you did an update? [00:07] MaximLevitsky: yes [00:07] From what version? [00:07] MaximLevitsky: 10.4 i think... it was the last big version... [00:07] What graphical card? [00:09] MaximLevitsky: i must look... somewhere i have some document about the laptop... [00:10] ePirat: I think its a bug in graphical drivers [00:11] Btw, you do enter name/password on boot? [00:11] MaximLevitsky: is there a way to downgrade without using the screen? (maybe vnc?) [00:11] ePirat: switch to kernel console [00:11] ctrl+alt+F1 === Barridus_ is now known as Barridus [00:13] ok [00:13] ePirat: you didn't by a chance installed nvidia drivers from theirs site? [00:14] install [00:14] what? [00:14] You didn't install nvidia drivers from their site? [00:14] no [00:15] ePirat: ok, I just remembered that update causes similiar issue with them [00:15] o.o [00:15] in the kernel console, just type lspci, and see what GFX card you have [00:15] Though I am very unlikely to help [00:18] MaximLevitsky: wich one of the entrys is the GFX card? [00:18] how do i update lucid now? [00:18] It should be neat start [00:18] near [00:19] rallias: you don't, wait 3 more weeks for the release [00:19] IdleOne:I'm impatient [00:19] MaximLevitsky: something from ATI... [00:20] I have just updated from Ubuntu Lucid 10.04 to Ubuntu 10.10 and my headphone jack is not working... I've been reading the forums and the bugfixes but i am not able to fix this... I had the same problem on LTS also, before I upgraded [00:20] MaximLevitsky: is there a way to downgrade? [00:20] ePirat: It won't be easy [00:20] hm [00:21] MaximLevitsky: maybe in the final release it will be fixed? [00:21] ePirat: Unlikely I'll say [00:21] ohhh [00:21] ePirat: try to ask on #radeon [00:21] but ok, the impirtant things i can do with kernel console [00:22] *important [00:22] Its not something I can remotely help with I guess [00:23] can't build amd drivers on maverick, any idea if there is known bug or am i just missing something on system? [00:23] MaximLevitsky: how to switch back to graphik mode? [00:23] i'm using ati-driver-installer-10-9-x86.x86_64.run [00:25] ePirat: Atl+Ctrl+F7 [00:25] ePirat: also try removing compiz [00:25] you could for now just sudo mv it [00:26] what? [00:26] ePirat: on login the compiz is started that used 3D to render the desktop [00:27] ePirat: if 3D is broken, you can just remove the compiz for now [00:29] MaximLevitsky: how i do this? [00:29] ePirat: the easist way is to rename the compiz binary [00:30] sudo mv /usr/bin/compiz /usr/bin/compiz.back [00:32] ok... rebooting now [00:32] a basic ubuntu question for u :P how do i install a file i downloade in tar.gz ? [00:33] christophoros: what program/ [00:33] christophoros@christophoros-desktop:~/Downloads$ dir [00:33] avant-window-navigator-0.4.0.tar.gz [00:33] this one [00:34] christophoros: why not to install this from ubuntu repostries? [00:34] christophoros: as a rule of the thumb, you should always try first to install from ubuntu reportries [00:34] repostries [00:34] installing it now hehe [00:35] MaximLevitsky: doesnt worked :-( i will wait for final release and see if it will work [00:35] ciao [00:35] ePirat: does compiz run though? [00:35] ePirat: [00:35] hm? [00:35] you should switch to console [00:35] and look at ps -e output [00:36] or even better ps -e | grep compiz [00:36] if it is then you did something wrong [00:36] ps -e shows list of all running tasks [00:36] and grep is a very common tool that filters the output [00:37] i cant find the | ... [00:37] sry but i must do now, its very LATE... (1:37 a.m) [00:38] *go [00:38] ePirat: ok, I am also very tired [00:41] are you ready for maverick? [00:41] or are you ready to buy some bacon [00:58] do I need any additional packages to test multitouch such as two finger scrolling etc... in maverick? [00:58] i know they changed this completely from Utouch or whatever other pacakges were being used [01:52] Shotwell looks like a double surprise to me, really [01:52] Looks like first photo manager that doesn't suck [01:53] And the second reason is *CENSORED* [01:54] whats the easiest way to kill yourself without pain, must be quick too [02:20] MaximLevitsky, yep - even though updates work .. the counter isn't reset [02:21] lukus: stuff like that is what usualy makes me mad at ubuntu. go figure why something like that fails.... [02:21] lukus: really don't know [02:22] Like now in 10.10 search doesn't work in nautilus if runs as root [02:22] go figure why... [02:22] MaximLevitsky, well - usually I don't have this kind of problem .. I guess I can't be so angry as we're in beta [02:23] lukus: its not really a beta anymore [02:23] we got something like 17 days till release [02:23] i'm not sure if that's true [02:23] don't expect much fixes [02:23] there are a lot of updates - updates almost every couple of hours [02:24] I don't think yr necessarily corrrect [02:24] It usually takes few versions or few days of banging the head against the wall for a bug to be fixed... [02:25] Nobody is to blame BTW [02:25] its just lack of testers and developers === _TechAway_ is now known as _Techie_ [03:17] does anyone else get all kinds of FUBAR characters when they hit system->help and support? [03:17] often followed by "sorry, !@#!%$#@%$ closed unexpectedly"? === iConfused is now known as iConfused|sleep [03:26] psusi: bug #605577 [03:26] Launchpad bug 605577 in Ubuntu Translations "Help contents title bar shows cubes with numbers instead of a proper title" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/605577 [03:34] whew... [03:35] plenty of dupes ;) [03:42] anyone running into issues with not being able to play audio through all of your speakers? pavumeter shows sound going through them all but only the 3 front speakers on my setup are actually playing sound [03:42] hah [03:42] and I just fixed it :) [03:42] nevermind [04:11] My maverick laptop won't resume from suspend as of an update to the latest kernel earlier today. Removing my proprietary nvidia drivers didn't fix the rpoblem, nor did reverting to the earlier kernel. [04:11] Any ideas other than a reinstall? [04:22] i'd file a bug [04:33] cowbud: I tried, but I kept on getting timeout errors on LP, and the LOSAs have not said anything in #launchpad. [04:41] I tried doing this "ecryptfs-setup-private -u michael" and got this Testing mount/write/umount/read... fopen: No such file or directory ERROR: Could not mount private ecryptfs directory [04:41] Any ideas what I did wrong? [04:46] I figure it out... had an extra directory === sandGorgon_ is now known as sandGorgon === SaRy is now known as S|Away [05:26] * edgy looking around [05:41] Under 10.04 i had a program installed that allowed me to scroll by wiping 2 fingers across my trackpad. However, in 10.10, the effect does not occur. How do i fix this? === Barridus_ is now known as Barridus [06:21] When upgrading from 10.04 to 10.10 do you have to reinstall everything from scratch? [06:24] JohnnyL, no [06:27] mgunes: ok, may I ask what the process is? [06:29] JohnnyL, issue "update-manager -d" and follow the instructions. [06:29] make sure you've read http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/maverick/beta [06:32] hello. with maverick my touchpad does not work, it is mapped 1:1 to the screen and is thus annoying. no clicking with the touchpad nor anything. the laptop is an eee 901 [06:38] mortal, see if https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingTouchpadDetection helps [06:40] thanks [06:42] mgunes: thanks [06:42] mortal, JohnnyL, you're welcome [06:44] so, when is ubuntu going to add the icons back to the system menu? [06:44] lol, i had thought you were referring to me as a 'mortal'.. having Star Trek TOS flashbacks. [06:44] hahahah [06:48] eh, I do not have xserver-xorg-input-synaptics installed [06:48] and can not install because of version mismatch [06:51] when will the xorg packages be installable on i386 [07:21] mortal, it's hard to tell; it's usually best to just wait a while and it will get resolved [07:21] you can check https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+builds for ongoing builds [07:32] how do i disable tap-to-click on my touchpad? the mouse settings app doesn't appear to have it [08:03] how can i get admin rights on sources file in etc/apt folder ? [08:04] gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list [08:05] just for editing? [08:05] yes [08:05] that would do it then [08:05] alright thanks alot :) [08:07] am trying to install beryl [08:07] and check out what i get >< [08:07] http://pastebin.com/Z8B9JF7q [08:10] beryl does not like you [08:10] try compiz instead ;) [08:11] lol [08:11] http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ [08:12] everything is 403 on that server [08:12] >< [08:12] anyway, i thought beryl was remerged into compiz [08:12] so there is no beryl [08:13] ah [08:13] its called compiz fusion now according to WP [08:13] WP ? word perfect ? [08:13] ... but that also says the population of elephants has tripled in the last six months [08:13] no wikipedia [08:13] almost the same [08:14] jesus word perfect, you must be at least 30 years old [08:14] ;) [08:14] i am [08:14] 33 [08:14] well then [08:14] that explains that [08:15] ...old [08:15] not old, but experianced :) [08:15] ok [08:16] I just barely remember wordperfect for dos [08:16] early 90s or so [08:19] dos, wordperfect, lotus 1-2-3 and dbaseIV, that's how you ran an office suite [08:20] how can I recover my system after sudden kernel panic? [08:21] st__: if the kernel has a panic, you need to reboot [08:22] it has it constantly [08:22] kernel version ? [08:23] st__: then you need to log a bug [08:23] st__, see if https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSystemCrash helps [08:23] 2.6.35-19 [08:23] !info linux-image [08:23] linux-image (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.35.22.23 (maverick), package size 4 kB, installed size 32 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia all armel) [08:23] yeah, that one was not so good to my system either upgrade to 2.6.35.22 [08:24] st__: that doesn't look like an ubuntu kernel [08:24] or at least the current one [08:46] how can I reinstall kernel from livecd? [08:46] st__: did you read the links for the ubuntu behaviour ubottu sent you ? [08:46] st__: if your system is so FUBARed that apt doesn't work, you probably have a bigger problem than the kernel. [08:46] st__: before getting any more help - please respond [08:47] st__: did you read the links I sent you on ubuntu channel behaviour by ubottu [08:47] yes I did, but why are you harassing me? [08:48] st__: I'm not, I'm asking you to respond to confirm you have read the channel rules before progressing with help as you didn't know them before [08:51] st__: What problem are you having with apt? [08:51] Jordan_U, it tells about segmentation faults during dpkg-reconfigure stuff [08:52] st__: Could you pastebin the exact error message? [08:53] it short: /bin/sh: line 1: 2915 segmentation fault (core dumped) /usr/bin/dpkg-preconfigure --apt [08:55] sounds like your machine is in a real mess [08:56] when doing updates, did any fail [08:56] ikonia, no I didn't notice anything suspicious [08:57] maybe I should just copy /bin and /lib from livecd to my machine? [08:57] no no no no [08:57] never do anything like that [08:58] st__: Could you run fsck and maybe memtest just to rule that out? [08:59] Jordan_U, sure thing [08:59] it's certainly worth checking your hardware if the kernel is panicing and your getting seg faults [08:59] your not overclocking are you ? [08:59] ikonia, no [08:59] still worth checking your hardware out [09:00] guys from http://gnome-look.org/ what do i have to have in order to install the screenlets? [09:01] indeed, my audio was not working, loads of issues, turned out my audio card was loose [09:01] but connected enough to be reconised [09:02] filesystem looks OK === _Techie_ is now known as _TechAway_ === Krishnandu is now known as UG === UG is now known as Krishnandu [11:18] has anyone had any issues in 10.10 with wireless dropping and connecting frequently? [11:45] I'm having some problems with this microSD card and USB adapter. Sometimes it works when I plug it in, but sometimes it doesn't. [11:47] Here's a copy of dmesg from a successful and unsuccessful attempt to connect it to my system. http://pastebin.com/ED2X4YqA [11:56] bobthemilkman: not all the info is there [11:58] gnomefreak: Try checking it again: http://pastebin.com/ifkxVmYK [11:58] I've unplugged it into various USB ports to see if I could get it to work, but no luck. [11:59] bobthemilkman: you on 10.04? [11:59] 10.10 [12:01] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=797789 [12:01] That site seems to be the exact thing I have... I'm gonna try that. [12:05] The USB adapter worked before, so it's probably a problem with the new kernel (or options changed in the compilation of the new one). [12:06] hi, I want to sync my new _empty_ rhythmbox library with my iPod. That is, I want to transfer from the iPod to the rhythmbox library. Does Rhythmbox provide this ? The syncing it is proposing me, it to _erase_ the iPod (probably since the library is empty in the laptop) [12:06] I did the edits in /etc/modprobe.d/ and then did sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-(latest(-generic [12:14] bobthemilkman: im not sure but looks like the device is the issue. it looks similar to the problem i had with broken usb stick [12:14] I lost my previous mircoSD card, so I haven't used the device in a while. The microSD card itself works fine on my other machine. [12:14] I guess I'll try rebooting to see if that fixes it (it did last time o.O) [12:15] g0bl1n: i havent tried on 10.10 yet. ive been meaning to just havent found the time to find out [12:15] gnomefreak, my question is, does rhythmbox sync both ways ? [12:16] g0bl1n: havent tried it but i would think it does [12:17] gnomefreak, the preview window, shows a before/after sync. And the after sync shows me an empty iPod :-/ [12:19] g0bl1n: im not seeing it [12:19] i guess it doesnt [12:19] gnomefreak, for me to see the sync preview again, had to delete the /home/.../.local/rhythmbox/sync/ipod_file [12:20] then, connect the iPod, and press the Sync button [12:20] but I'll drag all the files into the library and see what happens :-) [12:21] I only downloaded the linux-headers, image, etc to 2.6.35-22 (from maverick repo and mainline) and both kernels have a serious problem hibernating [12:22] vbgunz: using Lucid? [12:22] Yes, I am on Lucid, both maverick patched kernel and the mainline kernel of 2.6.35 have problems hibernating [12:23] vbgunz: Lucid should have the maverick kernel in its archives [12:24] we dont support using 10.10 kernel on Lucid for good reasons [12:24] I needed a kernel greater than or equal to 2.6.33 for TRIM support. it really helps. my ext4 fs partition increased in read by 60MB [12:24] but I just noticed this behavior with both available kernels [12:25] I searched and it seemed fedora users are running into it too with this version [12:25] vbgunz: than upgrade or build it yourself, but doing what you are you can expect a lot of problems [12:25] I can wait for maverick but I just want to know if this is a known problem or if it isn't even on the radar [12:31] Okay, well, I just plugged it into my other computer and did sshfs 172.20.1.131:/media/6438-6664 /mnt/network, and it's just as good, I suppse. [12:47] if it's any consolation, the 2.6.36rc4 kernel doesn't have hibernation problems on lucid. [13:34] hi, do I understand that correctly, the greyed out options inside the update-manager are the updates that require me to do a partial upgrade to get ? [13:35] yes [13:39] ok, if I keep updating normally, without the partial upgrade, will they eventually be updated ? [13:39] yep [13:41] aight, so installing 10.10 now, and keeping it updated without partial upgrade to avoid major problems is ok, as when 10.10 is officiall released they all update to the actualy version number meant for release ? :) [13:41] Votan, yeppers [13:41] you will be there ahead of the latecomers :) [13:41] great, happy that I understood it :> === ZNC_shookees is now known as shookees [14:36] hello does anyone have successfully running an ati hd5000 series card with fglrx 10.9 and 10.10 x64 ? - with fglrx 10.8 there was an issue due to the xorg version === shadeslayer_ is now known as shadeslayer [17:04] What does Ubuntu 10.10 come out ? in 10 days ? [17:05] Oh it says 19 >_< [17:05] Bye :) === Technovi1ing is now known as Technoviking [17:22] can someone explain why ubuntu cannot play youtube after install... in 2011? [17:32] did you install flash? [17:34] i checked a box in installer labeled about flash and restricted stuff, but without effect [17:34] firefox just shows the panel that a plugin is required, and offers to install it, but fails and redirects to adobe page... [17:41] aaaaargh [17:41] damn you ubuntu [17:41] for multiple reasons [17:41] 1) launchpad erroring on submission as it loves to do without any way to hit back and see the form you just typed in [17:42] 2) ubuntu setting chrome as my default browser even though I ran update-alternatives w/ x-www-browser of firefox, this means that my form saving plugin was not active when using the bug reporter [17:42] (hm, that or the bug reporter ignored that x-www-browser...) [17:42] nemo: just hit F5 in firefox to reload the page [17:42] whew [17:42] ok. I assume I can repost in chrome too [17:43] I don't know chrome [17:43] me either :) [17:43] I just had it on here for testing [17:43] I use FF4 as my main browser these days. [17:44] I'd typed a reasonable amount in that bug, wasn't looking forward to typing it again [17:44] launchpad is overloaded these days I guess? [17:46] yup [17:46] sometimes just hitting the back arrow works, too [17:46] even if it wants to "resend", it brings the form back sometimes [17:49] didn't this time [17:49] sent me to the unmodified title [17:50] hm [17:50] I wanted to test that update-alternatives was working [17:50] so I decided to make a URL shortcut [17:50] and it still doesn't work with IE8 [17:51] ah. nautilus froze for a long time, but it eventually opened correctly [17:51] st__: wait. what doesn't work in IE8 and why would we care? :) [17:51] still no sun java package.. [17:51] damned launchpad of course [17:55] Not only ubuntu doesn't include eclipse-cdt for some reason, but now a version downloaded using its built-in update doesn't work [17:56] I also see that gnome-power manager is broken [17:56] And it now reports time in hr:min [17:57] and 'About ubuntu' shows garbage in menus [17:57] Didn't report the above yet [18:06] the 'About ubuntu' garbage is reported. It is a bug in yelp translations [18:07] As far as IE8 not working correctly, that is really a microsoft bug. They refuse to use standards. [18:08] One other thing that I really hate is new widget theme. Nothing personal, but its first time that happens to me. I really can't get used to it [18:08] Why can't you have a package for each ubuntu version, so I could revert back to 10.04 [18:08] style [18:09] I probably end up installing the package manually from 10.04 [18:10] I really somewhat regret the update, but then what we have 17 days till release. [18:21] Is everyone enjoying 10.10? [18:22] no [18:22] that PoS had kernel panic today and I had to put it off [18:22] not me yet [18:22] What caused the panic? [18:23] Btw, the xrand applet once again shows 'Unknown' on my monitor [18:23] magicianlord, some glibc version conflict [18:24] say. it used to be that when something screwed up in 10.04 I could killall pulseaudio [18:24] and it would respawn if an app needed it [18:24] nemo: look at /etc/pulse/client.conf [18:24] now, this laptop is new to ubuntu, but if I killall pulseaudio in 10.10 on this laptop, everything in gnome freezes up and uses 100% of CPU until I restart X [18:24] that cannot be ideal behaviour [18:25] nemo: don't know how to fix this [18:25] also, it froze up and used 100% of CPU when I set the audio hardware profile in preferences to an input one (I know, makes no sense, but I was just trying to get things working) [18:25] MaximLevitsky: it might be related to sound not playing at all, I guess... but somehow feels more like pulseaudio's fault [18:26] MaximLevitsky: does killing pulse lock up gnome for you too? [18:26] works [18:26] hm [18:50] Is it a good idea to install kernel26-headers, or not, to reduce updated file size? [18:58] good evening [18:58] i just loose one indicator-applet [18:58] like everybody ? :o) [19:01] "Sometimes" Audacious does not play an Ogg-Vorbis-[Xiph.Org-libVorbis-I-20090709]. ONly if I restarted Audacious. I cannot yet define "sometimes" more precisely. -- Is this a known bug? [19:01] bah screw it [19:02] "Sometimes" Audacious does not play an Ogg-Vorbis-[Xiph.Org-libVorbis-I-20090709] file. Only if I restart Audacious. I cannot yet define "sometimes" more precisely. -- Is this a known bug? [19:06] zniavre: What do you mean by "loose"? === maedox is now known as maedox|afk [19:12] bullgard4, after one update and then logout the messagind applet is not displayed anymore [19:18] zniavre: Do you mean indicator-applet or indicator-applet-session? -- This is serious. Try to purge it and re-install it. [19:19] Also gnome-power-manager, shows time in hr:min format [19:19] why? [19:20] MaximLevitsky: as opposed to... [19:20] 2 hours 30 minutes [19:28] I used to see it like this; [19:28] Laptop battery 1 hour 50 minutes left [19:29] now its Laptop battery 1:50 left [19:29] this is yet another regression [19:30] anyone notice 10.10 beta is a bit sluggish or am I doing something wrong? [19:45] jiohdi: No, quite the opposite. [19:45] meaning? [19:46] Hi, I've upgrade today to maverick beta [19:46] jiohdi: My 10.10 Beta feels faster reacting and faster booting. I did not make any objective measurements though. [19:46] I've a little problem, envelope is missing from indicator-applet, anyone knows how to solve this issue? [19:47] I had 10.4 upgraded to 10.10 beta and it seems a bit slower... especially in the program start ups... but I am also using unity on an atom processor [19:49] skalka: Did you try to purge indicator-applet and re-install it? [19:49] I've reinstalled without purging [19:49] i can try, anyway i correctly see volume and other icons [19:51] it asks me to remove also ubuntu-desktop, can i go? [19:52] No, I would not do that. [19:53] so? I think this is the error (process:3477): libindicator-WARNING **: No watchers, service timing out. [19:53] ** (process:3477): WARNING **: Shutting down service! [19:54] i get this if i do /usr/lib/indicator-messages/indicator-messages-service === S|Away is now known as SaRy [19:57] evening [19:58] BUGabundo: its seems that for me gnome-power-manager is total mess [19:58] I have no sound at all [19:58] I already filled like 4 bugs for it [19:58] * BUGabundo tries mute/unmute [19:58] change that to total wreck [20:01] hey! [20:02] Is there a fglrx Version which runs under Maverick? [20:02] no idea [20:02] but the one there is on my other laptop worked OOTB [20:06] ok, I'm the most stupid person alive. [20:06] complained I had no sound, 'cause I had the headphones plugged in :(a [20:08] indicator-messages-service now doesn't work [20:08] MaximLevitsky: reinstall time? [20:08] eheh [20:08] why? [20:08] It recent update that killed it [20:08] ahh [20:09] then revert [20:10] indeed it updated yestarday [20:11] * nemo has been trying for hours to submit a bug to launchpad [20:11]