[00:02] <mgunes> ldunn, done
[00:03] <ldunn> thanks :)
[01:20] <ldunn> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+bug/640418 <-- Another wishlist bug, methinks
[01:20] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 640418 in gedit (Ubuntu) "Please add support for bash highlight in gedit (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[01:20] <ldunn> Or, wait... gedit *does* have bash hilighting. At least, in Maverick it does ._.
[01:24] <charlie-tca> it always has. You just have to enable the plugin
[01:24] <ldunn> See, I thought so. :?
[01:26] <charlie-tca> hilites bash scripts on my maverick
[01:28] <ldunn> yep. I'll mark it as invalid?
[01:37] <charlie-tca> yup
[01:37] <charlie-tca> with a comment, please
[01:38] <ldunn> *nod*
[02:04] <hggdh> who is helpdesk?
[02:22] <ldunn> Looking at bug 640212, I can't find "cliebt" anywhere in the bzr branch for lucid's package. Should I be looking somewhere other than lp:ubuntu/lucid/tsclient?
[02:22] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 640212 in tsclient (Ubuntu) "Error in Italian translation (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/640212
[02:39] <drew212> ok, i'm debugging a touch pad issue, mainline kernel wont boot for me, how do i fix or what do i do now?
[02:45] <mgunes> drew212, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingTouchpadDetection may help
[04:31] <drizzle1> guys
[04:31] <drizzle1> i think 645691 is wishlist
[04:32] <maco> bug 645691
[04:32] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 645691 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Installer started from desktop lacks an introductory page (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/645691
[04:32] <ldunn> Looks like it
[05:14] <maco> drizzle1: marked
[05:14] <drizzle1> <3
[05:29]  * ldunn goes and applies for membership in BugSquad. :D
[05:43] <rusivi> Hello everyone. I know that you do not want to see me here due to my recent poor conduct.
[05:43] <rusivi> I am here to apologize sincerely for my nonsense.
[05:43] <rusivi> This does not represent what I am about, the Ubuntu Community, Canonical, the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, nor you as the professionals.
[05:44] <rusivi> I have a lot to learn about Ubuntu as following the CoC was very difficult and I failed on multiple fronts simultaneously.
[05:45] <rusivi> I hope that you can look past my crybaby, posturing, unprofessional conduct to move forward with the Ubuntu Community and all the Communities within it.
[05:45] <rusivi> Thank you for your time and I have lot of learning to do about Linux. Thank you for your patience and understanding as you noticed, I am human too! ;)
[05:45] <rusivi> Take care and happy bug hunting!
[05:46] <rusivi> (wave)
[05:46] <ldunn> So, I have a patch that closes bug
[05:46] <ldunn> ... bug 645740
[05:46] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 645740 in qtcreator (Ubuntu) "Should depend on libqt4-script (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/645740
[05:47] <ldunn> I just attach it to a comment, and that's all, yes?
[06:37] <slayer> anybody there?
[06:38] <slayer> hello
[06:55] <slayer> logout
[17:52] <devildante> hey everybody :)
[17:59] <charlie-tca> Hello, devildante
[17:59] <devildante> HI charlie-tca :)
[18:48] <sense> Is that new, that Launchpad refers to its From address as 'Helpdesk' and calls bugs 'Tickets'?
[18:52] <charlie-tca> I have seen a couple like that, but it is not doing it for all the bugs. Is that limited to launchpad bugs only?
[18:58] <AbhiJit> hi Mohan_chml
[18:58] <Mohan_chml> heya AbhiJit
[18:59] <AbhiJit> :)
[19:03] <bcurtiswx_> sense, charlie-tca, I was wondering the exact same thing.. thought it was spam bot at first :X
[19:03] <sense> yeah
[19:05] <bcurtiswx_> whens the next bugsquad meeting?
[19:06] <charlie-tca> October 12, 17:00 UTC
[19:07] <charlie-tca> Anybody know why we do not have the meeting header on all the bugsquad pages?
[19:07] <charlie-tca> Somehow, having it on FindRightPackage, but not on the triage pages, seems wrong
[19:07] <bcurtiswx_> charlie-tca, thats why i asked, it wasn't easily findable
[19:08] <charlie-tca> apparently, with all the help to get the pages re-written, that is no longer possible. We have two different headers in use, which is also confusing
[19:09] <charlie-tca> Simplifying these pages is really confusing things now.
[19:09] <bcurtiswx_> charlie-tca, a good topic for the next meeting ;)
[19:09] <bcurtiswx_> first would be consistent headers... seems the most obvious thing
[19:13] <charlie-tca> added to agenda
[19:15] <charlie-tca> Now if I make the meeting...
[19:15] <bcurtiswx_> haha, right..
[19:47] <devildante> everyone: I hate to bother you, but what's the status on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MohamedAmineILIdrissi/ReportingBugsAlternate ? Do you think it's ready or not?
[19:48] <charlie-tca> I thought it was, myself.
[19:49] <devildante> thanks :)
[19:49]  * devildante needs more opinions though
[19:49] <charlie-tca> I agree
[19:50] <charlie-tca> hggdh, bcurtiswx, bdmurray : ^^^
[19:50] <devildante> one ^ for each person :p
[19:51] <charlie-tca> Keeps it uniform
[19:51] <devildante> lol
[19:52] <bcurtiswx_> hmm, is the sound/xdriver info statement raelly true.. report it anyways, because hardware will "most likely" be different.. seems like they should recommend to check hardware to see if it matches..
[19:53] <bcurtiswx_> really*
[19:53] <bdmurray> kernel developers have specifically requested separate, even if duplicate, reports per person
[19:53] <bcurtiswx_> bdmurray, OK, :)
[19:54]  * devildante looks at bcurtiswx and bcurtiswx_.... horror!
[19:54] <charlie-tca> Normal procedure is to report a new bug for kernel, X, and audio
[19:54] <bcurtiswx_> haha, with the underscore, means im on my laptop
[19:54] <bcurtiswx_> without it is my desktop at home
[19:54] <devildante> ah
[19:54] <bdmurray> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/09/14/%23ubuntu-bugs.txt
[19:55] <bdmurray> meeting log seems to indicate proceed with rolling out ReportingBugs alternate
[19:55] <devildante> yeah, saw that...
[19:55] <bcurtiswx_> yeah, i feel bad having to miss meetings.  Life kinda does that to ya.. i can now that I've taken my written qualifier
[19:56] <devildante> I missed it too  :(
[19:56] <devildante> but that was pure forgetting :p
[19:56] <charlie-tca> then it should be done ;-)
[19:56] <charlie-tca> Thanks, bdmurray
[19:56] <bcurtiswx_> i think a couple things could be done for meetings.  A) reminder e-mail to the list a day or two before  B) Meeting minutes sent to the list
[19:57] <charlie-tca> heh
[19:57] <devildante> bcurtiswx_, that is awesome :)
[19:57] <charlie-tca> we can't even make the meetings half the time
[19:57] <bcurtiswx_> unless they are and my filters are _really_ strong
[19:57] <devildante> and yay! charlie-tca :)
[19:57] <BUGabundo> evening
[19:57] <devildante> so do I just put the text in help.ubuntu.com or is there a procedure?
[19:57] <bcurtiswx_> well just like all team meetings, a chair is assigned.. maybe we could assign a minutes taker at the beginning of every meeting
[19:58] <charlie-tca> yup
[19:58] <charlie-tca> nope
[19:58] <charlie-tca> yup
[19:58] <devildante> ???
[19:58] <charlie-tca> well, I give up
[19:58] <bcurtiswx_> charlie-tca, is in a revolving door probably
[19:59] <charlie-tca> lol
[19:59] <devildante> so...?
[19:59] <charlie-tca> fingers seem to be faster than the brain, today
[19:59]  * devildante wants answers NOW or he'll explode
[19:59] <charlie-tca> yes, replace all the text with the new text
[19:59] <devildante> great! :)
[19:59] <bcurtiswx_> yeah, i think we can revert if something goes HORRIBLY wrong
[20:00] <devildante> of course, it's a wiki after all :p
[20:00] <charlie-tca> and in comments on the edit page, just put your name and that it is a complete re-write
[20:00] <devildante> 'kay :)
[20:02]  * devildante also has to upload the new screenshots
[20:02] <bcurtiswx_> bdmurray, would it be worth getting mootbot/meetbit (whichever it is) so chair can be minutes "taker" as well?
[20:02] <bcurtiswx_> meetbot*
[20:04] <bdmurray> taht sounds like a good idea to me
[20:04] <charlie-tca> Is the "helpdesk" and "Ticket created" thing for bug control notices only?
[20:04]  * bcurtiswx_ goes and finds out how to get mootbot in here
[20:04]  * charlie-tca is being nuts by it now
[20:05] <bcurtiswx_> well what is the meeting bot...
[20:06] <charlie-tca> we use moot-bot in #ubuntu-quality for the meeting log
[20:06] <devildante> hm, charlie-tca, I have problems... I don't have rights to upload screenshots :(
[20:06] <charlie-tca> sure you do, as attachments
[20:06] <devildante> "You are not allowed to attach a file to this page."
[20:06] <charlie-tca> wait. That is the community help wiki. It could be.
[20:07] <devildante> so I have to have special privileges?
[20:07] <charlie-tca> get hold of #ubuntu-doc and ask them how to do it
[20:08] <devildante> 'kay, but not now, I'm gonna do homework :)
[20:08] <charlie-tca> okay
[20:10] <bcurtiswx_> whats homework?
[20:10] <hggdh> devildante: I would say it is ready. Go for it :-)
[20:11] <charlie-tca> school assignments
[20:11] <bcurtiswx_> well, i'll try to get a meeting bot in here.  not sure what one tho
[20:14] <bcurtiswx_> maco where'd we get the one for #ubuntu-us-dc ?
[20:15] <maco> bcurtiswx_: ping alanbell about mootbot
[20:16] <bcurtiswx_> maco, will do, thx
[20:19] <strycore> hi
[20:24] <AlanBell> o/
[20:24] <bcurtiswx_> hi AlanBell
[20:25] <bcurtiswx_> bdmurray, did we have discussions ever about having meetings in #ubuntu-meeting ?
[20:25] <AlanBell> #startmeeting
[20:25] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Sep 23 19:23:52 2010 UTC.  The chair is AlanBell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell.
[20:25] <meetingology> updated
[20:25] <meetingology> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.
[20:25] <meetingology> updated
[20:25] <AlanBell> #endmeeting
[20:25] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Sep 23 19:23:57 2010 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell . (v 0.1.4)
[20:25] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://mootbot.libertus.co.uk/ubuntu-bugs/2010/ubuntu-bugs.2010-09-23-19.23.moin.txt
[20:25] <bcurtiswx_> AlanBell, much thanks ^_^
[20:25] <AlanBell> ok, so meetingology is here, it is much like mootbot from #ubuntu-meetings
[20:26] <AlanBell> instead of being written in TCL as an eggdrop bot it is python supybot, which is nice
[20:26] <bcurtiswx_> AlanBell, is it the same commands, as in I can use the wiki commands and they'll work
[20:26] <AlanBell> it should have all the commands of mootbot, plus a few extras
[20:26] <AlanBell> and there may be bugs
[20:26] <bcurtiswx_> AlanBell, OK, is there documentation?
[20:27] <AlanBell> working on that!
[20:27] <strycore> Hi there
[20:27] <AlanBell> for the commands you can do [topic] or #topic, both syntaxes are recognised
[20:28] <bcurtiswx_> OK
[20:28] <strycore> I'm trying to gather information on a bug , and try to see what is causing it
[20:28] <strycore> and if I have enough info, I can report it
[20:28] <bcurtiswx_> #help
[20:28] <bcurtiswx_> only during meetings.. like mootbot.. good :)
[20:29] <strycore> I'm experiencing strange mouse behavior in almost every fullscreen games
[20:29] <AlanBell> code is at lp:~ubuntu-bots/ubuntu-bots/meetingology
[20:29] <strycore> I think it may be related to the Xorg 1.9 update
[20:29] <AlanBell> bcurtiswx_: the #help command is actually a debian invention, it is used in meetings as a call for help or volunteers. Bit odd IMHO.
[20:30] <bcurtiswx_> eek, that is unconventional
[20:30] <AlanBell> yeah
[20:30] <bcurtiswx_> i would assume #help meant I could get a list of commands
[20:30] <AlanBell> so would I
[20:30] <AlanBell> meetingology: commands
[20:30] <meetingology> AlanBell: Error: "commands" is not a valid command.
[20:31] <strycore> Ok no , I've found it, it's unclutter
[20:31] <bcurtiswx_> meetingology: help
[20:31] <meetingology> bcurtiswx_: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
[20:31] <bcurtiswx_> hmm, maybe want to supress those to PM ?
[20:31] <AlanBell> oh, another trick it does, if it has rights to change /topic then it will do so as the meeting progresses, then put back the original topic at the end
[20:32] <AlanBell> it is a standard supybot, the theory is that the meetings plugin will be added to the loco bots so the regular channel bot just grows meeting facilities
[20:32] <AlanBell> you can have multiple chairs
[20:34] <bcurtiswx_> maybe a neat feature would be (if it had channel privileges) would me to +m the room for meetings and voice the chair
[20:34] <bcurtiswx_> (if thats how they wanted it run)
[20:35] <bcurtiswx_> eh, maybe that overly complicating things
[20:36] <bcurtiswx_> AlanBell, but nonetheless, thanks for allowing us to use meetingology
[20:37] <bcurtiswx_> AlanBell, where are meeting logs put?
[20:37] <bcurtiswx_> ahh, wait.. nvm
[20:37] <bcurtiswx_> ic
[20:38] <AlanBell> sorry, got called away again
[20:38] <AlanBell> yeah, meeting logs are put on the server that sits on my bookshelf
[20:38] <vish> bcurtiswx_: iirc, it was because there was a conflicting meeting at that time on -meeting, the meetings are held in the channel itself
[20:39] <bcurtiswx_> vish, that would be a good reason.  thx :)
[20:39] <vish> np..
[20:39] <AlanBell> it will also do votes with a list of authorised voters
[20:39] <hggdh> yes, that was the reason
[20:39] <bcurtiswx_> if no list present, i would assume all are allowed to vote
[20:39] <AlanBell> so you can do #voters vish bcurtiswx_ AlanBell
[20:39] <bcurtiswx_> ahh, Ok
[20:39] <AlanBell> to just have a council vote or whatever
[20:39] <AlanBell> then #voters everyone to reset
[20:40] <bcurtiswx_> with tab complete, that will be easy
[20:41] <AlanBell> the code as I mentioned is in launchpad, and I would really welcome people joining in. I know at the moment there is a test framework which hasn't been updated and fails
[20:42] <AlanBell> and documentation needs writing, but we have https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NorthCarolinaTeam/Mootbot-UKHowTo as a starting point
[20:42] <bcurtiswx_> AlanBell, noted :)
[20:45] <bcurtiswx_> I guess I'll chair next meeting if I can remember about it
[20:51] <bcurtiswx_> bdmurray, would it be cool to add the next meeting time in the /topic ?
[20:54] <kamusin> hey devildante !
[21:01] <njin> hello fellows, i've a dislessic friend and I'm asking you if someone knows an apps that can read (talking) scanned book. Thanks in advance.
[21:01] <bcurtiswx_> bdmurray, apparently i was having connection issues, sorry if you got back to me
[21:03] <bcurtiswx_> bdmurray, muchas gracias.
[21:04] <bcurtiswx_> i was gonna say I could do it, but i forgot i don't have chanop :P
[21:06] <charlie-tca> njin: screenreader doesn't do that?
[21:06] <njin> charlie-tca: i tve tried orca, but don't read images
[21:07] <charlie-tca> hmm, that's true
[21:10] <njin> I'm going to ask at orca's site if they can implement this feature, Thanks again.
[21:11] <charlie-tca> sure. the only other thing I can think of is an app to convert the scanned image to text
[21:12] <charlie-tca> Can you change the scanner app to give you text instead of an image?
[21:13] <bcurtiswx_> there's a cool Object Recognition program that can convert words in images to text
[21:15] <bcurtiswx_> the name slips my mind, but i've used it successfully
[21:39] <AlanBell> gocr I think
[21:39] <AlanBell> !info gocr
[21:39] <ubot2> AlanBell: gocr (source: gocr): A command line OCR. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.46-2.1 (lucid), package size 198 kB, installed size 488 kB
[22:34] <devildante> hi kamusin :)
[22:35] <devildante> charlie-tca: there is only 1 guy in #ubuntu-docs, how am I supposed to find help? :p
[22:35] <charlie-tca> #ubuntu-doc
[22:36] <charlie-tca> no "s"
[22:36] <devildante> ah, sorry :p
[22:36] <charlie-tca> okay
[22:36] <charlie-tca> no problem
[22:36] <charlie-tca> I did that too
[22:36] <devildante> it's weird that there is someone in -docs though :p
[22:37] <charlie-tca> yup
[22:37] <kamusin> hey
[22:37] <devildante> hey kamusin :)
[22:37] <charlie-tca> maybe waiting for people to ask where everyone is?
[22:41] <charlie-tca> There should be more than one person there
[22:42] <devildante> on -doc or -docs?
[22:42] <charlie-tca> I can't remember who is the head guy, maybe mdke
[22:42] <charlie-tca> #ubuntu-doc
[22:43] <devildante> there *is* more than one person there, in fact, there are plenty of people
[22:43] <charlie-tca> I think mdke is the guy that can give you access to upload the images
[22:43] <devildante> I was talking about -docs :p
[22:43] <devildante> oh well
[22:43] <charlie-tca> I don't know why anyone is in -docs
[22:46] <kamusin> we should have the superpowers to do it, thought
[22:46] <devildante> yes; we're in the mighty BugControl team!
[22:48] <charlie-tca> I think the doc team takes precedent for the help wiki
[22:48] <devildante> argh :p
[22:49] <kamusin> life is hard devildante.. you have to be pacient
[22:49] <devildante> heh :)
[22:50] <hggdh> tempus fugit...
[22:50] <kamusin> btw, I have a nice present for kill your time (pm)
[22:50] <devildante> yay!