[00:38] <ubuXubu> good evening xubuntu...
[02:14] <Takeasy> my xubuntu doesn't give sound, any solution?
[02:14] <Takeasy> i can hear sound in Windows in same computer
[02:15] <well_laid_lawn> Takeasy:  does it show in   aplay -l   in terminal ?
[02:16] <Takeasy> yes, well_laid_lawn
[02:18] <well_laid_lawn> Takeasy:  is everything turned up in   alsamixer   ?
[02:19] <Takeasy> which one should i turn up?
[02:19] <well_laid_lawn> Takeasy:  I would turn them all up until it works :]
[02:20] <Takeasy> some can't turn up
[02:20] <well_laid_lawn> that happens...
[02:21] <Takeasy> Headphone, Line Jack, Mic boost, stereo mic
[02:21] <well_laid_lawn> headphone should turn up
[02:22] <Takeasy> the problem is i can't
[02:22] <well_laid_lawn> are you using the headphone now?
[02:23] <well_laid_lawn> I would make sure the pcm is the default in the sound icons config - right click it
[02:23] <Takeasy> right click which one?
[02:24] <well_laid_lawn> the one in the panel
[02:24] <Takeasy> ok
[02:25] <Takeasy> http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/125/screenshot2vo.png
[02:26] <well_laid_lawn> that's fine - have you checked the sound icons config for what is default?
[02:27] <Takeasy> http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/9162/screenshot3ij.png
[02:28] <well_laid_lawn> in the switches or options tab you should be able to select the default :]
[02:29] <Takeasy> http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/7655/screenshot4v.png
[02:30] <well_laid_lawn> looks like I had that wrong then...
[02:31] <Takeasy> http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/6408/screenshot5cx.png
[02:35] <well_laid_lawn> what does the file   /etc/asound.state   have in it pls
[02:36] <Takeasy> no such file
[02:39] <well_laid_lawn> k
[02:39] <well_laid_lawn> ouit of ideas try
[02:39] <well_laid_lawn> !sound
[02:40] <Takeasy> how to find "Volume applet"?
[02:40] <jrmy> !quake
[02:40] <jrmy> sweet
[02:42] <jrmy> apparently not quake 1 or 2
[02:42] <jrmy> :[
[02:42] <well_laid_lawn> Takeasy:  the volume applet is the icon in the panel
[02:43] <Takeasy> brb
[03:48] <Hana> Can someone help me with connecting to wireless internet in Xubuntu?
[03:49] <well_laid_lawn> !wifi
[03:50] <Hana> ...thank you
[03:51] <well_laid_lawn> that's all I know about wifi :]
[06:40] <csemple> my kid was hitting buttons on the keyboard, and now the screen size is buggered only in xfce
[06:40] <csemple> the login manager (gnome's) uses the full screen, but as soon as I log into xfce, The area that is used by the screen shrinks and I have these thick black borders on the sides that are not being used
[06:42] <csemple> another thing I noticed is the screen res. doesn't stick when I reboot the computer
[06:42] <csemple> or log out
[09:57] <paulau> hi everybody
[09:57] <paulau> i have an issue when i plug a second ecran
[09:57] <paulau> before a was with ubuntu 10.04 and multi screen works
[09:58] <paulau> now i am with xubuntu 10.04 and multi screen does'nt work
[09:58] <paulau> can you help me pleaze?
[09:58] <Sysi> install arandr and set up with it
[09:58] <paulau> ok thanks
[09:59] <paulau> for information , why works with ubuntu and not with xubuntu?
[10:00] <Sysi> by just plugging in? i can't even guess
[10:00] <paulau> yep just pluggin it
[10:04] <paulau> thanks for arandr works
[10:12] <paulau> ok arandr doesn't support resolution 1980*1080
[10:13] <paulau> i want to force this resolution, can you help me?
[10:13] <Sysi> it worked with ubuntu?
[10:13] <Sysi> did you do reinstallation, what graphics card?
[10:14] <paulau> yes work with ubuntu
[10:14] <paulau> with ubuntu al works alone
[10:14] <paulau> i doesn't install graphics card
[10:14] <Sysi> do you have two different installations or two desktops?
[10:15] <paulau> VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[10:15] <Sysi> have you installed updates?
[10:15] <paulau> yes
[10:16] <Sysi> very strange
[10:16] <paulau> i have read thah arandr doesn't support 1980
[10:16] <Sysi> !xrandr
[10:16] <Sysi> cli but works
[10:17] <Sysi> (command line)
[10:17] <paulau> ok
[10:17] <paulau> i must replace arandr by xrandr?
[10:18] <Sysi> not replace
[10:18] <paulau> ?
[10:18] <Sysi> xrandr is used from terminal
[10:18] <paulau> ok
[10:20] <paulau> in fact, when i chosse 1980*1080 i have my task bar in middle of my screen
[10:21] <paulau> and i must have my second screen in bottom
[10:22] <paulau> hum ok i have found
[10:22] <paulau> sorry
[10:23] <paulau> thank
[13:07]  * eeffoc waves! 'ello.
[13:08] <psycho_oreos> hi
[13:08] <eeffoc> how goes it?
[13:08] <psycho_oreos> tired, you?
[13:08] <eeffoc> same, although I am drinking coffee...the sun is up...meh...
[13:08] <eeffoc> tired nonetheless.
[13:09] <psycho_oreos> hehe, in the irony of your handle as well
[13:09] <psycho_oreos> its night time where I am anyway
[13:10] <eeffoc> X_x yep. ah, night is far better than the morn.
[13:10] <eeffoc> I am sitting 60 miles from home, remoted into my server, supposed to be working... lol...
[13:10] <eeffoc> getting paid to IRC and drinking free coffee!
[13:10] <psycho_oreos> you lucky person heh
[13:10] <eeffoc> lmao
[13:12] <eeffoc> i wouldnt mind having a halloween orange filled oreo right about now O_o
[13:12] <eeffoc> goth oresos, fts.
[13:12] <eeffoc> *ftw...errr
[13:12] <psycho_oreos> lol I was about to say :p
[13:12] <eeffoc> OREOS
[13:13] <eeffoc> typos FTL.
[13:13] <eeffoc> not enough eeffoc.
[13:14] <eeffoc> it's only 8am here... blagh... i just had to drive 60 miles to get to this dreadful place, lol... cut me some slack...
[13:14] <psycho_oreos> :p
[13:16] <eeffoc> Do you happen to know the difference between the xfce session and the xubuntu session?
[13:17] <eeffoc> I was tooling around my laptop yesterday, looking and the login screen and noticed that you can login using one or the other...
[13:17] <eeffoc> *looking at the login screen
[13:17] <psycho_oreos> I think they're more or less the same but xfce cannot start on its own for older versions afaik
[13:18] <eeffoc> hmm, weird.
[13:19] <eeffoc> do you read comics or ebooks on your machine?
[13:19] <corvinus> hi
[13:19]  * eeffoc waves at corvinus! 
[13:19] <eeffoc> hello.
[13:20] <eeffoc> better question, psycho_oreos, do you use Samba, or any other software, to remotely - wirelessly connect to a windows/networked shared drive in order to open media files?
[13:22] <psycho_oreos> eeffoc, yes a long while ago I did that
[13:25] <eeffoc> I've been having trouble opening the files through Samba. My laptop I've got xubuntu on only has a 40 gig hdd; I wanted to use it as an IRC/comic/ebook reader/netbook kind of deal. I keep all of my media on my server. I am able to connect to it easily and see the files (all .cbr or .cbz for comics) in Samba, but am unable to open them using the comic reader software, Comix, in xubuntu. I've trolled various forums for ALL types of me
[13:26] <psycho_oreos> eeffoc, have you tried copying the files locally onto xubuntu then running them with that comix?
[13:26] <Sysi> they should be just renamed zip files
[13:31] <eeffoc> psycho, yea, once I copy them locally, I can open them just fine with comcix. I've got about two gigs worth of material on my desktop now, just to be able to read. Sysi, that's primarily all they are: the .cbr's are .rar files, whereas the .cbz's are .zips. BTW, Sysi, thank you SO MUCH for your help the other day with the user deletion stuff! It worked marvelous!!!
[13:32] <eeffoc> After being able to directly boot into my new user name, I was able to remove the old user by 'sudo deluser ____', which did not prompt the 'user is currently logged on' message! Yay!
[13:35] <eeffoc> psycho, even if there was a way to transfer said .cbr or .cbzs over my network from windows to xubuntu, putting them on my xubuntu machine just until I could read them, that would work. I just can't even get them to do that. I have tried connecting through Gigolo, which allows me to connect to my windows shares, but doesn't show anything inside the actual shared drive. I've tried Pyneighborhood to no avail either...same results as G
[13:37] <eeffoc> Sysi and I spoke about it a few days back; I had mentioned that I tried partioning one of my network drives, reformatting the partition FAT32, instead of NFTS, as I didn't know if that would be an issue...but it did not make a difference either. So, I'm kind of at a stand still...It's no big deal copying my files to the flash drive, but, technically this should be viable.
[13:38] <psycho_oreos> eeffoc, hmm when I did it I didn't have a fancy frontend that time, I just used the mount tool under CLI
[13:38] <knome> how do i change the resolution in gdm? ubuntu falsely thinks i have a resolution bigger than i do and i encounter some problems with that.
[13:39] <knome> brb
[13:39] <Sysi> knome: xorg.conf?
[13:40] <eeffoc> hmmm, haven't tried it that way, psycho. that's probably easier, lol.
[13:41] <eeffoc> well, I take that back, I was able to CLI my way through Samba with smbclient, getting into my shared drive and navigating to be able to see all of my .cbrs and .cbzs.
[13:42] <eeffoc> Once I am at that point, is there a command to transfer files? or open files with comix? Most of the time, I'll open a terminal and run 'comix' to open comix, then gui my way to open said comic file.
[15:38] <paulau> hi everybody
[15:38] <paulau> i have an aluminium keyboard on my xubuntu
[15:39] <paulau> the keys <> and @# are not at the good place
[15:39] <paulau> i haven't find a solution can you help me plz?
[15:40] <charlie-tca> If the keys are physically in a bad place, change keyboards or assign shortcuts to other keys
[15:41] <paulau> the keys are at the good place on the keyboard but when i type on @ u have a < at the screen
[15:42] <charlie-tca> What keyboard layout are you using?
[15:43] <paulau> Aluminium Apple keyboard
[15:43] <charlie-tca> change the layout then, to have the keys re-assigned to the correct places
[15:44] <paulau> ? i must test all layout??
[15:45] <charlie-tca> If the keys in that layout are defined wrong, you will need to try another one.
[15:46] <paulau> i have test all apple layout
[15:47] <charlie-tca> I think so. I do not know which layout will work for your keyboard
[15:47] <paulau> i don't know too
[16:06] <Takeasy> er........my xubuntu has no sound, but i can hear sound in windows in the same computer
[16:06] <Takeasy> how to solve it?
[16:07] <paulau> click on the sound icon and add controles
[16:07] <Sysi-> have you checked everything unmuted? what sound card
[16:09] <Takeasy> http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/4118/screenshot3ci.png
[16:10] <Sysi-> pulseaudio?
[16:10] <paulau> change sound card
[16:11] <Takeasy> Chipset is AD1981B
[16:11] <Takeasy> One 0.5W internal speaker (mono)
[16:13] <Takeasy> http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/8862/screenshot6g.png
[16:15] <Takeasy> how to change sound card? you mean physically?
[16:15] <Sysi-> driver from dropdown menu
[16:20] <Takeasy> http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/6126/screenshot7f.png
[16:20] <Takeasy> like this?
[16:21] <paulau> yes and add controles
[16:21] <Takeasy> select which card?
[16:21] <paulau> second
[16:22] <Takeasy> only one control can be select
[16:22] <paulau> select it
[16:23] <Takeasy> http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/5226/screenshot8j.png
[16:24] <paulau> if doesn't work choose third
[16:25] <Sysi-> lspci | grep -i audio
[16:27] <Takeasy> http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/5286/screenshot9i.png
[16:27] <Takeasy> still no sound
[16:27] <Takeasy> lspci | grep -i audio
[16:27] <Takeasy> 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)
[16:45] <Takeasy> still no sound
[17:33] <jrmy> bbl
[19:27] <tom3333> hello user
[19:28] <charlie-tca> !hi | tom3333
 i have a small problem. i have two screenshavers. and of both TFTs i see the same. what can i do?
[19:32] <charlie-tca> anyone?
[19:34] <Sysi-> arandr?
[19:37] <charlie-tca> tom3333: are you using arandr?
[19:38] <Sysi-> (i mean i didn't quite get what's the problem)
[19:38] <thomas__> ist hier jemand der deutsch spricht?
[19:38] <charlie-tca> two screens, wants different screensavers on each one, I think
[19:39] <charlie-tca> !de | thomas__
[19:39] <thomas__> ok. alles klar.
[19:39] <charlie-tca> tom3333: You want two different images on two screens, or two screensavers on two screens?
[19:40] <thomas__> yes. of both screens are the same
[19:40] <charlie-tca> Sysi: wants two different images on his dual monitors
[19:41] <Sysi-> for background?
[19:41] <charlie-tca> all the time
[19:41] <Sysi-> arandr would be for configuring dualhead
[19:42] <thomas__> hmmh thats not good
[19:42] <charlie-tca> So, needs to install arandr?
[19:42] <thomas__> ok. and then?
[19:42] <Sysi-> use it :)
[19:43] <thomas__> must i go at root or at superuser?
[19:43] <Sysi-> no
[19:43] <thomas__> install?
[19:43] <Sysi-> for installing yes
[19:44] <thomas__> ok i do it.
[19:45] <Aquina> Does it make a drifference for an old Radeon 9550 Pro to upgrade from official Ubuntu Catalyst 8.3 (fglrx) to the latest one (9.x)? I have severe trouble getting to run Half Life 2 in hardy using WINE 1.2
[19:46] <Sysi-> does HL2 use openGL?
[19:47] <Aquina> no I don't think so but I never cecked that.
[19:47] <Sysi-> then propably not
[19:48] <Aquina> I can avtually load the game and start it. When I'm on the train I see only fragments of the Train like when disabling textures in Wordlcraft 2.1/Valve Hammer Editor 3.x
[19:48] <Sysi-> could open driver be better?
[19:48] <thomas__> :-)
[19:48] <Sysi-> newest open.. not in hardy's kernel
[19:50] <Aquina> I'd like to first figure out wheter It's a problem with hardy (kernel), The fxlrx (v8.3) driver or wine 1.2. I don't even know where to start. I at least realized som people got the game working in lucid. I also made two dozen other gmaes running (including ones from Steam); not HL2 however. :-(
[19:51] <Sysi-> i'd try lucid and new open driver
[19:51] <Aquina> (sry for the typos -- new kb)
[19:51] <Sysi-> old ati propietary drivers afaik are pretty bad
[19:51] <Aquina> hm...
[19:51] <charlie-tca> heh, my old keyboard doesn't spell good either :-)
[19:51] <Aquina> I've got to keep hardy (policy).
[19:52] <thomas__> must i the pc new starting when i had arandr install?
[19:52]  * charlie-tca hopes to get one of them "good spelling" next time
[19:52] <Aquina> And I don't have enogh spare machines either (except servers and routers which won't help).
[19:52] <Sysi-> negative
[19:53] <Sysi-> Aquina: you maybe could try kernel from ppa
[19:53] <Sysi-> with new open driver
[19:53] <Aquina> Huh? Is that possible?
[19:53] <charlie-tca> thomas__: not after installing arandr, but you might need to restart after using it
[19:53] <Sysi-> Aquina: worst thing to happen should be that you can't boot to that new kernel
[19:55] <thomas__> new starting  yes or no? my english is miserable  :-(
[19:55] <Sysi-> thomas__: not
[19:55] <thomas__> ok. thanks
[19:58] <Aquina> Can you point me to that specific PPA, Sysi_ since I can't find it. :-(
[19:58] <Aquina> I only found one for Lucid: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-ppa/+archive/ppa
[20:01] <Sysi-> you see the deb-lines?
[20:02] <Sysi-> add those to /etc/apt/sources list, replace 'lucid' with 'hardy'
[20:02] <Sysi-> *sources.list
[20:03] <Aquina> oh
[20:04] <Sysi-> http://ppa.launchpad.net/kernel-ppa/ppa/ubuntu/dists/hardy/
[20:04] <Aquina> Ok, I realize thats what I ogften died with the SRC repos wehn I had to download lucid source packages and build them on my hardy box. That works for a package with few deps.
[20:07] <Aquina> Thanx anyway, Sysi-! :-)
[20:07] <Sysi-> hopefully that works
[20:14] <thomas__> bye
[20:30] <Edward_Elric> Hello!
[20:30] <Edward_Elric> I have a quick question about a laptop I am likely to get next monday.
[20:30] <Edward_Elric> Anybody here? =P
[20:32] <Sysi-> !ask
[20:33] <likemindead> What's up, Edward_Elric?
[20:33] <Edward_Elric> I am going to get the following laptop:
[20:33] <Edward_Elric> 700 MHZ pentium 3 processor, 256 MB ram, 40 GB HArddisk, Wifi network card included, dvd/cd player
[20:33] <charlie-tca> Take the desktop cd with you and make sure it works in it
[20:34] <Edward_Elric> I think it can run xubuntu given the specs, but do you guys think the processor is fast enough?
[20:34] <charlie-tca> and it will run slow, with only 256MB
[20:34] <likemindead> Is it a Dell C610? I have one with those specs (though I upped the RAM to 1GB).
[20:34] <likemindead> It runs Xubuntu well with the additional RAM (which is cheap these days).
[20:34] <Edward_Elric> I forgot wich laptop it was for a second, but I am sure does are the spec
[20:35] <charlie-tca> destkop cd works as a live cd, so try it before you buy
[20:35] <Edward_Elric> how slow would 256 mb ram work?
[20:35] <charlie-tca> very
[20:35] <likemindead> Annoyingly so.
[20:35] <Edward_Elric> it currently runs windows xp smoothly
[20:35] <Edward_Elric> but that's a korean version.
[20:35] <likemindead> It will especially be bad on flash heavy web sites.
[20:36] <Edward_Elric> All I am planning on using it for is typing, web browsing (mail and forums and youtube), playing some music and watching a video every now and then.
[20:36] <Edward_Elric> No rendering, gaming, or other really taxing stuff.
[20:37] <Sysi-> web browsing and videos are heavy for low-end
[20:37] <likemindead> Just get a bit more RAM from eBay or something. It'll be great then.
[20:38] <TheSheep> youtube/flash can be slow on a 1.6Ghz 2GB ram computer
[20:39] <TheSheep> and the operating system doesn't matter here much
[20:40] <Edward_Elric> allright I will buy some more ram
[20:40] <Sysi-> it does.. flash is made for windows
[20:40] <Sysi-> it sucks on mac also :)
[20:40] <Edward_Elric> but would it be able to display a 480P 20 minute anime with the current specs?
[20:40] <Sysi-> propably
[20:41] <Sysi-> btw javascript eats more memory than flash
[20:44] <TheSheep> Sysi-: what does that even mean?
[20:45] <Sysi-> TheSheep: websites with Js use much RAM
[20:45] <TheSheep> Sysi-: it's like saying that Pascal eats more memory than Erlang, or somethnig -- languages don't eat memory
[20:46] <Sysi-> TheSheep: yes, things made with them do
[20:46] <Sysi-> lots of js should take more memory than lots of flash
[20:46] <TheSheep> Sysi-: so... you say that programs written in one language universally eat less memory than programs written in another language
[20:47] <TheSheep> Sysi-: that doesn't make much sense
[20:47] <Sysi-> TheSheep: it does if you don't be very literal
[20:48] <Sysi-> if i say something in a stupid way, it doesn't mean you have to understand it stupidly :P
[20:54] <TheSheep> Sysi-: that's why I asked for a clarification, but I still don't understand it
[20:55] <Sysi-> TheSheep: if website has lots of javascript, it makes browser to use much ram
[20:56] <Edward_Elric> Hmm I checked on the internet a bit and some people say it's slow some say it flies. I think I will try =P
[20:56] <Edward_Elric> Then maybe ad ram if it's slow.
[20:57] <Edward_Elric> anyway I am going to return to my university Japanese studies. Bye ;-)
[20:57] <TheSheep> Sysi-: same with flash
[20:58] <Sysi-> TheSheep: afaik it don't still easily use as much
[20:59] <Sysi-> (but more cpu)
[20:59] <Sysi-> but maybe flash is more easily used more
[20:59] <TheSheep> Sysi-: I think you need to compare things that do roughly the same thing, comparing banners with map display systems doesn't make much sense
[22:18] <slow-motion> n8