* freeflying 03:57
nixternal<-- drunk05:11
ScottKSounds like a plan.05:12
* ScottK goes for a refill.05:12
nixternali just got home, quite drunk on stone ipa's to be exact05:12
nixternalScottK: what are you drinking?05:19
nigelbthat's a fun conversation to walk into05:22
ScottKnigelb: Whisky05:23
ScottKerr nixternal^^^05:23
nixternaleww. i can't drink that stuff. i only drink beer, or tequila if maco is around :)05:23
persiawhiskey is just not-very-hoopy beer with the water and bubbles taken out05:24
maconixternal: and only before noon?05:24
nixternalyou drank some brewhahahahs in mt. view when we had an MC night out, so dont' hide it05:24
nixternalmaco: it was 12pm somewhere :)05:25
maconixternal: it was 11am where we were! and you tried to use your home timezone as an excuse...til i pointed out it was 10am there05:25
nixternalmr. persia with his expensive booze and pizza :p05:25
ScottKnixternal: You need to work on your spelling.05:25
nixternalmaco: my home timezone would have been 10am :p05:25
nixternalScottK: to many beers to worry about spelling 05:25
ScottKWatch out though.  That's a word that Riddell takes very personally.05:26
nixternalmaco: and i was sneaking out and drinking before lunch that day too :)05:26
maconixternal: i said that!05:26
nixternalwhat word is that?05:26
macoas opposed to blasphemy, misspelled as whiskey05:27
nixternalto be honest, and only one person knows this about OLF that year, I started drinking at 9am OLF time :)  tequila and 2 bbeers before we went to lunch that day...and it was kevin and greg's fault for the tequila, not mine05:27
persiaRiddell only (sensibly) cares about "whisky"  All the other varieties (Ouishiage, etc.) are beneath contempt.05:27
maconixternal: hahahaha05:27
macowell now the googles know!05:28
nixternalhe drinks that urn brew shit05:28
* persia was very careful not to claim "whisky" was related to beer05:28
maconixternal: irn bru05:28
nixternalmaco: have you ever had it?05:28
maconixternal: also, /someone/ i know may still have a video of you dancing on the bus05:28
maconixternal: yes. a little too citrus for my liking05:28
nixternalit tastes like it was distilled straight from the urn05:28
nixternalmaco: dancing on the bus? not me, dancing at OLF was probably worse, or the dance off at UDS05:29
nixternalwhich was all jono's fault05:29
nigelbdance off at UDS? OMG05:29
nixternalnigelb: blame it on jono bacon05:29
nigelbnixternal: haha, I've seen the titanic song with jono and jorge05:29
nixternalsomeone was giving me shots of jack daniels. i only puked that up twice05:29
nixternalyeah, but on camera :)05:30
nigelbhaha, have to look for those videos05:30
nixternaland i was on some live podcast drunk out of my mine05:30
nixternalnigelb: i don't know if they were ever made public, though maco would know best to bbe honest. she has blackmailed me for 2 years now :)05:32
nigelbnixternal: must've been UUPC - popey has stuff to blackmail every community member who's ever come to UDS I think05:32
maconixternal: no i dont have videos of you. *crimsun* has videos of you05:33
nixternalnot popey at all thankfully05:33
macoi have videos of greg05:33
nixternalwhat? how does dan have videos05:33
macoof *greg dancing like carlton*05:33
nixternali remember that05:33
maconixternal: dan recorded videos of you on a bus at uds dancing. those are the videos i bring up05:33
nixternalthen everyone started taking their clothes off05:33
macodiffernet year05:33
nixternalmaco: holy cow, i didn't even know of those videos05:33
nigelbwhat blsphemy05:33
nixternallet dan know i want to see those videos05:34
nixternalor make them public already :)05:34
nigelbnixternal: you're going to UDS-N?05:35
maconixternal: first time i mentioned the vids, you claimed to have been sober at the time too!05:35
nigelbif so I should bring my cam, I should have enough to blakmail you all!05:35
nixternaloh, thankfully i wasn't there05:35
nixternalmaco: i was sober on every bus ride iirc05:36
nigelbmaco: he still claims to be sober :p05:36
nixternali just don't remember dancing on that damn bus05:36
nigelbnixternal: what bus ride are you folks talking about?05:36
macoi dont know exactly. i wasnt at that uds05:36
nixternalnigelb: from google to the hotel or vice-versa05:36
nixternaloh, i thought you were05:36
nigelbnixternal: ah mt view05:37
nixternalmy last uds more than likely05:37
nixternalunless something changes05:37
maconixternal: greg: http://www.flickr.com/photos/maco_nix/3971683031/in/set-72157622350260619/05:37
nixternalwhew, at least that was greg and not me05:37
nigelbnixternal: don't worry, maco wil probably not sleep until tthat's on the internets05:38
nigelbnow that you gave her permission to post :P05:38
* nigelb laughs at the videos05:40
nixternalnigelb: there is a video of me dancing somehwere on youtube05:40
nixternali just don't know who did it or where it is05:40
nigelbshould find him/her and give a hug05:41
nixternalok, i am going to bed. i am exhausted and have to be up early05:42
nixternalg'nite all05:42
nigelbnixternal: g'night :)05:43
nixternalhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/bradmcmahon/2942294925/  hahahahahah05:45
nixternalhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/bradmcmahon/2942311965/  <- fuckin' rock stars!05:46
=== Nightrose2 is now known as Nightrose
debfxScottK: are you working on getting the quassel security fix into *-backports?09:01
apacheloggershadeslayer: pingly10:08
apacheloggerulysses: mind forwarding that to kubuntu-devel, I suppose more people read that10:09
apacheloggeralso, I, personally do not see why one would want to find the wiki explicitly10:10
ulyssesapachelogger: me too, and there is the search box thing10:10
apacheloggerconsidering the *only* good thing about the you bun too wiki is that every launchpad us0r has immediate access to it10:11
apacheloggerother than that it is just slow and partially dated and got bad usability and does not blend in with any artwork whatosever10:11
apacheloggerso I just see it as extended information resources for semi-internal purposes such as process documentation and specifications10:12
apacheloggerSput: I love how easily one gets a quassel on windows ^^10:12
apacheloggershadeslayer: once you should arrive, it would be good if you could tell me if you are sure you want to commit to room sharing with a maniac, cause I am going to ack my uds invitation todayish10:13
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ScottKdebfx: I haven't worked on it yet.11:41
ScottKI'd planned on just asking for the Hardy backport to be removed since it's pretty useless as is.11:41
persiaJust removing seems dangerous for end-users who may have it installed (although I understand your reasoning).11:43
ScottKGood point.11:43
ScottKRiddell: Accepted qtwebkit-source.12:11
howlymowlyhi poeple.. short question: in kubuntu maverick..  is compositing turned off by default right now (I have intel graphics btw)? or is this a bug?  it works if I just press the shortcut for compositing two times. 12:28
Riddellthere are issues, http://tinyurl.com/33p7vu3 lists some of the bugs12:29
ScottKWe're testing another mesa snapshot that seems to help somewhat.12:34
ScottKI'd appreciate it if someone who's on Lucid, amd64 would check if Quassel translations (particularly fr) work for them and then comment in Bug  646467.  I can't replicate the problem on my i386 installs.12:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 646467 in quassel (Ubuntu) "quassel : No language dictionaries for the language : "fr" " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/64646712:36
SputScottK: the debug output looks like it's a problem with Sonnet (the spellchecker), not with Quassel's translations12:43
Sputi.e. missing dicts for the KDE spellchecker12:44
Riddellshadeslayer: ping13:13
Riddellshadeslayer: I need you to test kopete-gcall using the linphone libraries from kubuntu-ppa/experimental13:13
Riddellwhich don't use srtp13:14
RiddellScottK: plymouth for your archive admin approval13:34
shadeslayerRiddell: okies13:35
ScottKSput: Thanks.13:37
shadeslayerapachelogger: hahaha... <3 maniac's :P13:37
shadeslayerthe passport status page is down :(13:38
ScottKRiddell: That diff is substantial.13:38
RiddellScottK: autoconf/automake do like to do that13:41
* persia advocates updating autoconf/automake *at build time* if one insists on doing it in an automated fashion.13:42
Riddellthe meaningful bits are in src/plugins/splash/kubuntu-text (in debian/patches/debian-changes) and debian/plymouth-theme-kubuntu-text.*13:42
RiddellI'd advocate using a decent build system :)13:42
* ScottK presses the "I believe" button.13:46
shadeslayerRiddell: erm.. i dont have linphone installed, but kopete-gcall is installed 13:47
shadeslayeri do have libmediastreamer013:47
shadeslayerand tons of updates... will take about an hour :P13:48
shadeslayeri guess thats what i get for not updating in 5 weeks :>13:49
shadeslayeralso.. you uploaded qt 4.7 after archive freeze?13:49
ScottKSure, the difference between what we already had and 4.7.0 was minor.13:51
shadeslayeroh ok... i just thought since it was a new release ... ah well.. 13:51
Riddellshadeslayer: yes, so it's libmediastreamer0 and libexosip2-4 that need tested13:53
Riddellbetter to have a final release than a git snapshot, makes it very hard on upstream for bugs if people are using git snapshots13:54
shadeslayerright... :)13:55
ScottKSput: Could I convince you to comment about that in the bug?14:10
dantti_workRiddell: sheytan suggested me Apper, I kind of liked it, do you think it's a bad idea to change it now?14:43
ScottKdantti_work: It's a bad idea to change it now.14:44
dantti_workScottK: k :P14:44
Riddelldantti_work: we won't pick up the change in kubuntu for this cycle, major bugfixes only now14:48
dantti_workRiddell: sure14:49
Riddelldantti_work: as a name it seems perfectly good14:49
Riddellgoogle suggests surprisingly few other uses14:50
dantti_workRiddell: nice, I liked it too much less geek imo :D14:50
Riddellno silly K prefix makes it a winner with me :)14:51
dantti_workhehe 14:52
shadeslayerim thinking of naming my zsync app as zsync-qt4 :P14:53
shadeslayercurrently its qzsync :D14:53
Riddellusing "qt" in the name causes trademark issues14:53
shadeslayerdidnt know that :D14:53
shadeslayerwell.. its not even complete right now ... so ill change it laterz.. before i release it 14:54
sheytanQuintasan i've logo for you :)15:31
shadeslayersheytan: gimme gimme :D15:32
sheytanshadeslayer wait :D15:33
* shadeslayer is impatient :P15:33
sheytanyou have to be :D15:34
sheytanwell, it's nothing so special, but i think it's nice :)15:34
sheytanshadeslayer http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/6756/pj512.png15:34
shadeslayersheytan: purple doesnt go with project neon :(15:35
shadeslayermaybe make it black? and PN in neon?15:35
sheytanshadeslayer it's not a big deal. it can be every color ;)15:35
sheytanshadeslayer cool idea15:36
sheytanjust few minutes15:36
sheytanshadeslayer http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/214/g4623.png15:49
howlymowlyhi poeple..  short question: i've got a little package problem which is: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/plasma-widgets-addons_4%3a4.5.1-0ubuntu3_amd64.deb (--unpack):16:08
howlymowly trying to overwrite '/usr/share/kde4/services/plasma-applet-systemloadviewer.desktop', which is also in package plasma-widget-system-status 0.6-0ubuntu116:08
howlymowly(ahh yeah..  i use maverick btw)16:09
howlymowlyAm i the only one haveing those problems?16:09
howlymowlythat's when apt-get tries to upgrade the plasma-widget-addons16:10
howlymowlyany idea about this? or do  just have to wait until a non-broken package is released?16:13
shadeslayerRiddell: ppa package doesnt work for me :(16:13
Riddellshadeslayer: what happens?16:14
ScottKhowlymowly: Looks like a bug in plasma-widget-system-status16:15
ScottKIt should be safe to force that.16:15
shadeslayerRiddell: well.. i can call the other guy and everything, no sound from either end16:15
shadeslayersame thing via googles new plugin works16:16
Riddellshadeslayer: fooey, I guess srtp is needed16:16
howlymowlyScottK: How do I force the install?16:18
howlymowlywith dpkg --force or something like that?16:18
howlymowlyor is this also possible with apt-get?16:18
ScottKSomething like --force-overwrite.16:19
ScottKYou could also just remove plasma-widget-system-status16:19
howlymowlyScottK: of course..   jesus why haven#t I thought of that simple solution hehe   thx16:22
ScottKRiddell: I think it's worth mentioning in the release meeting that we're looking at another mesa update. Among other things it appears to fix Bug 633406.16:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 633406 in mesa (Ubuntu Maverick) "Display freeze when changing kwin effects settings if effects are active" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/63340616:28
RiddellScottK: yep, already got that16:29
Riddellrbelem: release meeting time.  any update on samba support?16:38
jefferaiRiddell: thanks for releasing that updated Amarok build16:38
Riddelljefferai: thanks for informing us of the issue16:38
rbelemRiddell, i made the changes that agateau asked16:39
rbelemRiddell, and now i'm working on the ui16:39
rbelemRiddell, i think that today i will finish the ui16:41
jefferaiRiddell: I hate having to send patches to packagers, and we've done that twice with 2.3.2, but better than having unhappy users right?16:41
shadeslayerRiddell: when do the final blueprints come on to launchpad?16:44
Riddellfinal blueprints?16:44
Riddellwe write the blueprints at or shortly after UDS16:45
shadeslayerhmm.. i thought blueprints were discussed @ UDS16:46
ScottKshadeslayer: You have a discussion and then write up the spec based on the results of the discussion.16:49
shadeslayerah i see16:51
shadeslayerScottK: what do we discuss? :D ...16:51
shadeslayerdo we have some stuff decided before hand for that?16:52
ScottKThere's the LP part of blueprint, which is essentially a stub.  That gets the session scheduled.  Then the details go on a page on the wiki.16:52
shadeslayerwhen do the blueprints come up on LP then?16:53
Riddellwe can register them whenever we want16:56
Riddellbut probably best to start with a wiki page16:56
Riddellfeel free to make one16:56
Riddellshadeslayer: hint :)17:02
shadeslayerRiddell: yep sure17:03
RiddellScottK: since the kubuntu-mobile stuff is in main now it seems like we can get rid of our messy kubuntu-meta set up17:05
ScottKRiddell: Agreed.17:05
* Riddell makes it so17:06
CIA-116[muon] jmthomas * 1179119 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (ChangeLog TODO) Update TODO and ChangeLog17:06
lex79shadeslayer: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/64583917:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 645839 in Kubuntu PPA "/usr/bin/kdevelop.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libkdevplatforminterfaces.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" [Undecided,New]17:23
shadeslayerlex79: we dont have a package for new kdevelop :(17:23
lex79shadeslayer: why ?17:23
shadeslayerlex79: because no one has looked into it yet and i was thinking of doing it tonight17:24
neversfeldeI cannot reach launchpad, if it is ok again soon, I could have a look at kdevelop17:24
* shadeslayer might look into it after he is done with wiki page.. which is soonish17:25
lex79shadeslayer: next time I suggest to don't upload kdevplatform if kdevelop is not ready17:26
shadeslayerok ..17:26
* shadeslayer looks into kdevelop17:26
shadeslayerneversfelde: or are you done with it? :P17:27
neversfeldeshadeslayer: no launchpad for me17:27
shadeslayerRiddell: lex79 ScottK apachelogger https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UDSNatty 17:27
neversfeldedo not know why17:27
shadeslayerneversfelde: alright ill get cracking17:27
ScottKshadeslayer: It ought to be in the /kubuntu namespace.17:27
shadeslayerScottK: ok ill move it17:28
shadeslayerlex79: i dont think we can close bugs with ppa packages right?17:46
shadeslayeror since the bug is reported against ~kubuntu-ppa, that can be done?17:46
lex79dunno, usually I close manually17:46
ScottKHas to be done manually.17:47
dasKreechCan kate do an enumeration?17:49
dasKreechTake a line and copy it 45 times with a progressive change of a letter/number ?17:50
Riddelldon't think so17:50
lex79libqt4-multimedia is gone, but which package replaces it?17:51
* markey is planning to install Maverick 64-bit on his new box17:51
markeycan it be recommended already? or too unstable?17:51
Riddellshould be fine I'd say, although today's daily-live CD doesn't work17:52
markeyMamarok: ^17:52
markeyMamarok: did you download the daily-live?17:52
shadeslayerlex79: cp: cannot stat `debian/tmp/usr/bin/kdevelop.bin': No such file or directory >> :O17:53
shadeslayerno kdevelop.bin :P17:53
lex79maybe just kdevelop instead of kdevelop.bin ?17:54
shadeslayeryeah i guess...17:54
Riddellkdevelop.bin sounds wrong17:54
shadeslayerwhy did they have 2 files anyways?17:55
shadeslayerRiddell: its there in the old packagign17:55
CIA-116[muon] jmthomas * 1179142 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (17 files in 3 dirs) (log message trimmed)17:58
CIA-116Add a kded module that for now acts as a distribution upgrade checker.17:58
CIA-116Eventually it'll also do update notifications. This kded module is heavily based17:58
Riddellshadeslayer: I've no idea18:01
Riddellbug in the build system maybe18:01
shadeslayerno like.. it was added in the kdevelop.install file :D18:01
CIA-116[muon] jmthomas * 1179144 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/kded/distupgradeevent/notused Not relevant to muon-notifier18:02
Mamarokmarkey: nope, the beta18:07
markeygreat :)18:07
markeymeanwhile, I'm at the 4th DVD of creating install disks for Windows 7 OEM :((18:08
markeythis takes hours18:08
markeyfreaking Microsoft....18:08
markeyI mean, how lame is that18:08
shadeslayermarkey: took me 4 hours to upgrade from vista to 718:09
shadeslayerthats when i decided ive had enough18:09
shadeslayerits kubuntu all the way now :)18:09
Sputinteresting. Windows 7 Enteprise is only one DVD18:13
dasKreechSput: They are all one DVD18:21
dasKreechit's the same DVD18:22
dasKreechJust dependson how much you paid decides what gets installed or enabled18:22
shadeslayerlex79: kdevelop done.. uploading18:26
Sputso why is markey then burning 4 DVDs?18:30
ScottKHe's into pain?18:31
Sputthat too18:32
Sputthat fact manifests itself in more than one way :P18:32
shadeslayerlex79: erm one secc.. just realised one thing18:35
markeySput: cause it's the OEM version, it doesn't come with install DVDs18:35
markeynot that I really use Windows much, but...18:36
markeyI paid for it after all18:36
shadeslayerlex79: build dep : kdevplatform-dev (>= 1.0.2), : should i change that to latest version?18:36
markeyso I won't throw it away18:36
shadeslayerthat is 1.0.8218:36
shadeslayerok.. good thing i just double checked it 18:37
lex79ensure you are building against 1.0.8218:37
* Sput never paid for windows18:37
Sputand no, I also don't run pirated software :P18:37
markeySput: microsoft tax... it was bundled with the lappy18:38
Sputah right, I paid for it once then, with my very first lappy 10 years ago18:38
Sputall my other lappys are paid for by $work18:38
Sputand the desktop boxen are self-made18:38
Sputplus the one gameloader I have installed I got for free18:39
ScottKRiddell: Would you please remove plasma-widget-system-status source and binary from Maverick.  It's part of kdeplasma-addons now. (thus the problem  howlymowly_ was having earlier).18:39
lex79Riddell: in kpk there is a patch debian-changes-0.6.1, can I remove? it's po translations.why is there?18:47
* ScottK is taking care of updating conflicts/replaces etc in kdeplasma-addons.18:55
shadeslayerok kdevelop uploaded18:56
shadeslayer( both maverick and lucid )18:56
sheytandid someone already tested lucid->maverick upgrade?18:57
shadeslayerlex79: sorry for the delay and problem in kdevelop18:57
markeySput: guess what: after 2 hours of messing with Windows, it fails to recognize the DVDs it created itself18:58
lex79shadeslayer: it can happen, no problem ;)18:58
Sputmarkey: tell news18:58
markeyat this point this calls for a:18:58
markeySCREW IT18:58
ScottKsheytan: I have, but more testing is always a good idea.  Because package upgrade sequence is somewhat random, file level conflicts in packages don't show up every upgrade.  More tries is better.18:58
shadeslayermarkey: lol18:59
markeyyou know, installing Kubuntu takes 20 minutes. Windows: 3 hours and your sanity18:59
markeythis is madness.18:59
Sputmarkey: I could have installed a full Gentoo in the time you wasted for creating DVDs!18:59
markeyno shit18:59
shadeslayermarkey: another 3 hours to install drivers and crap18:59
ScottKIt's so sad when I talk to people who just can't believe there might really be a better way than what they have become used to with Windows.18:59
markeyif I ever need Windows, I'll fetch the freaking thing from Pirate Bay, and run it in a VM18:59
markeycase closed18:59
Sputmy gameloader tells me it has new updates every time I boot it, and then fails installing said upgrades19:00
sheytanScottK i'll try upgrade one now ;)19:00
shadeslayerok lunchpad ate my lucid upload i think19:00
sheytan+ i'll install some sofwtware19:00
Sputgoogling for the error code made me download some obscure MS tool (after going through that genuine advantage crap), running that for an hour "to fix possible problems", and the problem still being around afterwards19:00
sheytanshadeslayer everyone gets hungry sometimes :)19:00
* markey installs Maverick19:00
sheytanmarkey good choice :D19:01
shadeslayerah its up now19:01
markeyfirst time using an SSD. /me excited19:01
shadeslayeroff to sleep now... cya19:01
markeynite shadeslayer19:02
shadeslayermarkey: use BTRFS on SSD's19:02
CIA-116[muon] jmthomas * 1179169 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/kded/ (9 files in 2 dirs) Add an UpdateEvent plugin for muon-notifier. It's almost working, but knotify is being a bit finicky about actually giving Plasma something to notify about...19:02
shadeslayeri hear its really awesome on SSD's19:02
markeyshadeslayer: maybe another time, still a bit too early19:02
shadeslayerquite crappy on a HDD tho19:02
markeyI need this box for work19:02
shadeslayerah :P19:02
markeycan't risk instability19:02
* sheytan needs to close 10 gimp projects before virtual box. Only 4gigs of ram19:02
shadeslayeri wish it were possible to boot a linux kernel and directly start a windows VM in your native resolution19:03
sheytanshadeslayer what's the problem in virtualbox?19:05
sheytanwhen you have guest additions, you can run native res.19:06
sheytaneven 3d stuff19:06
shadeslayersheytan: i have to boot K/Ubuntu -> login -> fire up VM -> then i can play19:06
shadeslayerinstead just : Boot kernel with mods -> login to windows19:06
sheytanshadeslayer well, it's not so complicated and doesn't take that much time :P19:07
shadeslayersheytan: i like what chrome OS does .. directly boots to the browser :)(19:07
sheytanreally? :D19:07
sheytanwill have to try that one ;D19:07
shadeslayeryep.. its really awesome if you want to just check your mails19:08
shadeslayerboots in 7-12 secs...19:08
sheytanshadeslayer my kubuntu wakes up faster i think :D19:08
shadeslayerlogin with gmail credentials -> voila! opens up gmail19:08
sheytanbut, it takes some time to wifi reconnect19:08
shadeslayersheytan: from suspend to ram?19:08
sheytanshadeslayer i don't really know. I just hit 'sleep' :D19:09
shadeslayersheytan: http://hexxeh.net/19:09
shadeslayerwow its even better than the last time i saw it19:09
shadeslayereven has proxy options now ^_^19:09
ScottKshadeslayer: Did you do some docbook dtd fixes earlier in the cycle?  19:21
ScottKRiddell: kdeplasma-addons is in the queue for yor review.19:36
sheytanisn't there any more userfriendly way to upgrade kubuntu then this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades/Kubuntu19:50
ulyssessheytan: I think there is only less user-friendly way19:52
sheytanulysses well...19:52
sheytani have to talk to dantti19:52
ulyssesgood to ask19:53
sheytandantti dude, we need you :D19:53
ulyssesthere was an option to use 'update-manager-kde -d'19:53
sheytanbut, well, this isn't very good anyway19:53
ulyssesbut it has the same frontend that this crappy long command19:54
ulyssesand in the software properties there isn't an option to choose what dist-upgrades should be appear (only LTS or normal releases also)19:55
sheytanulysses in kpk it is now20:05
Riddellsheytan: after release users will get a notification rather than having to type a long complex command20:07
sheytanRiddell yep, know that. anyway i would like to see a nice qt ui to manage distro upgrades20:08
Riddellsheytan: what would you change?20:08
sheytanRiddell i would add a tab or a button to kpk updates kcm, that will allow to check if there's new distro release20:09
sheytanand we can have a warning when the next release is a development one20:09
Riddellsheytan: when you open kpackagekit it does check for updates20:10
sheytanRiddell but not for upgrade to a new kubuntu release20:10
ScottKshadeslayer: We don't want to show a development release in kpk.  People will upgrade to it accidentally.20:10
Riddellyes it does20:10
ulyssessheytan: maybe something like in Ubuntu, a presentation during the upgrade?20:10
Riddellafter release20:10
sheytanRiddell oh yeah :D20:11
sheytanit really does :D20:11
sheytanwell, if some power users want to test new upcoming release they can use konsole. I can live with that20:12
RiddellI'd like to see that command simplified though, maybe we should add a kubuntu-devel-distro-upgrade script with that one line20:13
sheytanwould be cool, too20:15
dantti_worksheytan: hey20:17
sheytandantti_work jo :D20:17
sheytani mean yo :D20:17
ScottKRiddell: Thanks.20:18
dantti_worksheytan: what's up?20:18
sheytandantti_work well, i was about talk to you about the updates to new kubuntu release, but i think it's ok as it is now :)20:19
sheytandantti_work btw kpk will be called AppGet, kpk or Apper in maverick20:19
dantti_worksheytan: right :)20:19
dantti_worksheytan: KPackageKit in maverick20:20
dantti_workand probably Apper on the next one :D20:20
CIA-116[muon] jmthomas * 1179190 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/kded/event.cpp Setting the right KComponentData name might help...20:20
sheytandantti_work well for me it will be always called somply 'software' translated to polish ;)20:20
sheytanbut glad you like my idea :D20:20
dantti_worksheytan: I really disklike translating apps name20:21
dantti_workdolphin in portuguese sounds soo weird20:22
sheytandantti_work how? :D20:22
sheytani'll try to read it :D20:22
sheytanoh :D20:22
JontheEchidnaa 'G'!!!11!1!20:23
sheytandantti_work if you read 'who you' in polish fast, it sounds like a really bad polish word, so :D20:23
ulyssesWhy told me software-properties-kde after adding Canonical partner repositories, that „Successfully removed”?:P20:31
sheytan4 minutes of downloading updates to maverick. going to watch some tv now :D20:33
lex79JontheEchidna: muon is released from branch or from trunk?20:54
lex79JontheEchidna: should I get the template from svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/stable/l10n-kde4/templates/messages/extragear-sysadmin templates-extragear-sysadmin-stable20:54
JontheEchidnabranch is for the stable release (1.0.x)20:55
JontheEchidnatrunk will have some new strings and possible some changed20:55
JontheEchidnatrunk will need to be translated before 1.1 is released (not sure when), but I'll announce a string freeze at least 2 or 3 weeks in advance before then20:56
ulysseslet's see it20:56
JontheEchidnasee what?20:58
ulyssesthose new strings20:58
lex79JontheEchidna: ok thanks, I had a doubt with pinotree :)20:58
JontheEchidnalex79: right now branch is priority, I'd think20:58
lex79I translated the trunk instead of the branch20:59
lex79good good :D20:59
JontheEchidnabrb, testing muon-notifier means restarting kded which means losing network connection :/21:00
lex79Riddell: what I have to do with your debian-changes patch in kpk?21:01
lex79I will keep it :)21:05
Riddelllex79: how do you mean?21:16
Riddellit's translations, you can update them with make -f debian/rules fetch_translations21:16
lex79Riddell: ah ok, and it will create a patch debian-changes-0.6.1+svn1176533 ? see your last upload of kpk21:17
Riddelllex79: it'll create a patch with the current version number21:18
sheytanScottK upgrade successful ;)21:22
ScottKshadeslayer: Great.21:22
eMyller...and i broke my system today. \o/21:24
eMyllerbad, bad xorg.21:24
sheytanScottK you guys always have to mislead me with shadeslayer :D21:25
sheytaneMyller i've got a job for you :D21:25
ScottKsheytan: Sorry.  Sput needs to make better tab completion.21:25
sheytanScottK no problem ;D21:26
eMyllersheytan: yay! show me21:26
sheytaneMyller well, you already saw it... It's the html5 player ;)21:26
eMyllersheytan: oh21:27
eMyllerok, i'll play with it asap21:27
eMyllerdid you get a flash version?21:27
sheytaneMyller flash will be youtube ;)21:27
eMyllersimpler :P21:28
sheytanyep ;D21:28
eMyllerthe new player widget is not that ugly.21:28
sheytanand faster in some countries21:28
eMyllerjust doesn't fit perfectly in the design, but well21:28
sheytaneMyller our will shine :D21:28
sheytanbut i'll remake it anyway21:29
sheytaneMyller do you need svg or pngs are ok to this?21:29
eMyllerdoes it have any transparency? if yes, i need a png of it with transparent canvas21:29
eMylleranyway, send me a pack with both svg and png versions :)21:30
sheytaneMyller well, buttons and the progress bar are transparetn21:30
sheytaneMyller there are no svgs right now ;)21:30
eMyllerno problem21:30
eMyllerjust send me something i can slice21:31
sheytansure, give me few minutes ;)21:31
eMyllerdont rush21:31
eMylleri can't work on it right now21:31
lex79ScottK: can you accept kpk? it doesn't work if you set the mouse to use the double click21:32
lex79now it works21:32
ScottKdantti_work: Did you review the change ^^^21:32
ScottKlex79: I can, but I'd like an upstream ack.21:32
dantti_workScottK: well I fixed that, then somehow it broke again, I think you could upload a newer svn version instead of patching21:33
dantti_workit has more fixes that just that one21:34
lex79ScottK: I removed the patch that I added in 0.6.1-0ubuntu2 since went to upstream21:34
ScottKlex79: Why don't you check with what dantti_work has in svn and see if it's worth taking that instead?21:34
lex79ScottK: then Riddell  in 0.6.1+svn1176533-0ubuntu1 screw up the patch :)21:34
ScottKStill no diff in LP anyway and I need to go.21:35
ScottKBack later.21:35
sheytaneMyller i'll send you the images, and you'll work when you'll have time :)21:36
eMyllerdeal :)21:36
eMyllerhm... something cool to konsole: add an option to save session; so i don't need to rename all the tabs again and again21:39
sheytaneMyller email?21:43
sheytaneMyller http://www.sendspace.com/file/7euf8j :)21:44
eMyllersheytan: sorry, was afk21:48
eMyllersheytan: evandromyller at gmail at ubuntuone21:49
eMyllerjust in case :)21:49
sheytaneMyller sure :)21:49
sheytaneMyller thank you and i'm going to sleep now :)21:49
sheytanso let me knowwhen you code some :)21:49
sheytangood night guys :)21:49
eMyllernite dude21:50
CIA-116[muon] jmthomas * 1179218 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (4 files in 3 dirs) Give more info about the available updates in the notification21:58
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