| javatexan | #ubuntu is too busy talking about video games...LOL. Can someone help...Wine die on me, so i completely uninstalled it and erased the shorcuts out of main menu (so it wouldn't duplicate), but when I install wine now, I get no shortcuts in gnome main menu.... | 02:26 |
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| javatexan | is there a way to regenerate the shortcuts in main menu? | 02:27 |
| paultag | humm, interesting | 02:27 |
| paultag | javatexan, shucks, I'm not sure. I usually use it on the command line :/ | 02:27 |
| javatexan | I heard from Wine-headquarters that ubuntu generates them | 02:27 |
| paultag | javatexan, aye | 02:27 |
| paultag | javatexan, let me see if I can find anything on it | 02:27 |
| javatexan | thanks paultag....unfortunately my friend google has come up blanks for me. | 02:28 |
| javatexan | LOL | 02:28 |
| aveilleux | javatexan: When you delete Main Menu items, they're placed under a "deleted" category in the configuration files, ie. they won't be created again | 02:28 |
| javatexan | oh | 02:28 |
| paultag | <3 aveilleux | 02:28 |
| javatexan | can I delete them out of ther aveilleux? | 02:29 |
| javatexan | so they will be recreate | 02:29 |
| aveilleux | javatexan: You can try and dig them out... but the easier way to do it would be to just recreate the WINE shortcuts yourself through the menu editor. | 02:29 |
| aveilleux | javatexan: I can walk you through that if you would like | 02:30 |
| javatexan | k...will check it out or try to recreate by hand | 02:30 |
| aveilleux | javatexan: For reference... the WINE configuration tool is called "winecfg", the "Browse C: Drive" shortcut command is "nautilus ~/.wine/drive_c/", and the uninstallation app is crap so don't bother with it | 02:31 |
| javatexan | lol, I found out the last one the hard way, that is why I had to reinstall :( | 02:32 |
| bpatel | I need help getting wifi running on my laptop ThinkPad T510 Intel Wifi Link 6250 | 04:51 |
| bpatel | how to install drivers? | 04:53 |
| shahan | bpatel: doesnt it connected automatically? | 04:55 |
| bpatel | how to i install drivers? | 04:57 |
| bpatel | i need help getting wifi running on my laptop | 04:59 |
| zkriesse | bpatel: ok | 05:02 |
| zkriesse | bpatel: specs? | 05:03 |
| bpatel | i have a lenovo thinkpad t510 | 05:03 |
| bpatel | intel wifi link 6250 | 05:03 |
| zkriesse | Ubuntu 10.04? | 05:03 |
| zkriesse | !wifi | 05:04 |
| ubot2 | Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs | 05:04 |
| zkriesse | take a look at that page...might get you going | 05:04 |
| bpatel | im on the beta version | 05:05 |
| zkriesse | ah 10.10 | 05:05 |
| bpatel | yup | 05:05 |
| bpatel | i will review the doc will you be online for a bit? | 05:06 |
| shahan | bpatel: you take a look... no problem .... There are many experts waitting for you to solve ur problem :) | 05:07 |
| zkriesse | yes | 05:07 |
| zkriesse | shahan: Experts eh?...lolz | 05:07 |
| shahan | zkriesse: ya.... :) | 05:08 |
| Mohan_chml | lol :P | 05:08 |
| zkriesse | bpatel: yes Ill be online for another hour or so... | 05:08 |
| zkriesse | Just cause my cloak is Ubuntu/member doesn't mean Im super man lol | 05:08 |
| shahan | :) | 05:09 |
| bpatel | thanks guys, breaking up with microsoft windows is hard :( | 05:10 |
| Mohan_chml | bpatel: try dual boot first and then throw it off =] | 05:13 |
| jimboz | hello | 05:15 |
| Mohan_chml | Hello jimboz | 05:15 |
| jimboz | anyone know how to adjust the color saturation in ubuntu? | 05:15 |
| Mohan_chml | you are talking about windows and fonts etc.? | 05:17 |
| Mohan_chml | jimboz: ^ | 05:17 |
| jimboz | Mohan_chml, yeah, total display saturation... like you'd find in display properties in windows | 05:18 |
| Mohan_chml | jimboz: look system-> preferences-> Appearance and then click customize and goto font tab | 05:19 |
| Mohan_chml | I think that will help you (: | 05:19 |
| jimboz | hrm, i don't see saturation there | 05:20 |
| AndrewMC | jimboz: System> preferences> monitors | 05:21 |
| AndrewMC | Try there I'm not in front of my ubuntu box right now to make sure that's what you want so I'm running on memory lol | 05:22 |
| jimboz | AndrewMC, don't see anything like that | 05:22 |
| jimboz | http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/img/mediacolorenhancements1.jpg | 05:22 |
| jimboz | i'm looking for a graphical EQ for my whole display, so OS wide saturation and gamma | 05:22 |
| AndrewMC | jimboz: http://superuser.com/questions/173123/how-to-change-the-color-depth-in-ubuntu-10-04 | 05:25 |
| jimboz | depth is bit depth, not saturation :) | 05:25 |
| Mohan_chml | Google is not helping with that ): | 05:26 |
| Mohan_chml | brb | 05:26 |
| AndrewMC | jimboz: You might want to try #ubuntu | 05:26 |
| jimboz | k | 05:27 |
| bpatel | i need help installing these drivers http://www.intellinuxwireless.org/?n=Downloads | 05:43 |
| bpatel | i think its asking me to edit the kernal | 05:43 |
| Mohan_chml | bpatel: I have a question for you. Is your hardware not detected in system-> Administration-> Hardware drivers ? | 05:45 |
| bpatel | nope | 05:45 |
| bpatel | it only see one my video card | 05:45 |
| Mohan_chml | Its not detected? Ubuntu actually checks for drivers and Installs them automatically | 05:46 |
| Mohan_chml | I Can see install instructions in the link you gave | 05:47 |
| Mohan_chml | bpatel: ^ | 05:47 |
| bpatel | ya i though thats what it did becaue i can get to the internet from the wired connecton | 05:47 |
| bpatel | and going from System\Admin\aditional Drivers, it was able to get my video drivers but nothing eles | 05:48 |
| bpatel | one bit of good news i got bluetooth is working my laptop :-) | 05:48 |
| Mohan_chml | your wireless driver should be automatically installed | 05:48 |
| bpatel | am i just missing how to enable the device? | 05:49 |
| Mohan_chml | click system-> preferences -> network connections and add a wireless device and check for it | 05:49 |
| Mohan_chml | It surely is installed | 05:49 |
| Mohan_chml | brb | 05:50 |
| bpatel | i ran the following command <sudo lshw -C network> and got *-network UNCLAIMED | 06:05 |
| seidos | bpatel, you might have to load the module manually with modprobe. run lspci | grep Wireless to find out what kind of card it is | 06:09 |
| seidos | then maybe we can find what module you need to use it. | 06:10 |
| seidos | bpatel, if there is no module available for your device, you'll have to use ndiswrapper | 06:11 |
| seidos | bpatel, but if there is a module, you can just type sudo modprobe modulename and see if it works. like if you have a realtek 8180 you can type sudo modprobe rtl8180 | 06:12 |
| bpatel | device is Intel Corporation centrino Advanced-N + WiMax 6250 | 06:13 |
| bpatel | i checked ndiswrapper and it looks like my device is not supported http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ndiswrapper/index.php?title=Category:Intel | 06:14 |
| seidos | bpatel, this might help you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1529993 | 06:15 |
| bpatel | oh thank god | 06:15 |
| seidos | well, in summary, try sudo modprobe iwlang | 06:18 |
| seidos | and if that doesn't work, try turning off the wireless via on/off switch, then turning it back on. | 06:18 |
| === Z3R0B0T is now known as zbot64 | ||
| bpatel | according to the form i need to install the microcode, and i got the following instruction http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1529993 do just need to move the file to /lib/firmware via command <% cp iwlwifi-6050-4.ucode /lib/firmware> | 06:27 |
| bpatel | i am getting (FATAL: mODULE IWLANG NOT FOUND | 06:30 |
| seidos | bpatel, did you go here yet? http://intellinuxwireless.org/?n=Downloads | 06:31 |
| bpatel | yup that is were i went to get the file | 06:33 |
| bpatel | i am not sure if i installed it correctly | 06:34 |
| seidos | there is a readme that comes with the .ucode file | 06:34 |
| seidos | hmmm, i'm not sure | 06:36 |
| seidos | still reading | 06:36 |
| seidos | did you install the lucid backports as well? | 06:36 |
| seidos | bpatel, ^^ | 06:36 |
| seidos | you might need the lucid wireless backports in order to get iwlang. | 06:37 |
| seidos | i'm not sure what good the microcode is without the module | 06:37 |
| bpatel | is this the command ? | 06:38 |
| bpatel | sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-generic | 06:38 |
| seidos | bpatel, should work, if that is the name of the package. looks right to me. i'm running karmic. | 06:39 |
| bpatel | brb, might be diconnected for a bit, dont have a switch or a so i need to move the internet cable | 06:39 |
| seidos | bpatel, i'm thinking that once you cp the .ucode file like you have, then run the modprobe command, it should work | 06:40 |
| seidos | all right | 06:40 |
| seidos | bpatel, you can just see if you can ping the gateway | 06:40 |
| bpatel_ | ok im back | 06:43 |
| seidos | how'd it go? | 06:44 |
| shahan | /msg shahan group 654321 | 09:09 |
| duanedesign | :) | 09:12 |
| hobgoblin | was my thought :) | 09:12 |
| Mohan_chml | shahan: Pm please :P | 09:13 |
| hobgoblin | or use /msg ;) | 09:13 |
| Mohan_chml | heya hobgoblin =] | 09:14 |
| hobgoblin | hi | 09:14 |
| * Mohan_chml will be off for the next two hours. :/ (Power cut ):) | 09:16 | |
| shahan | Mohan_chml: | 09:20 |
| Mohan_chml | heya shahan | 09:20 |
| Silver_Fox_ | Hello. | 10:44 |
| shahan | Silver_Fox_: hi | 10:48 |
| shahan | Silver_Fox_: how r u? | 10:48 |
| Silver_Fox_ | Hello shahan , I am fine thank you. How are you ? | 10:56 |
| shahan | Silver_Fox_: alhamdulillah (all praise to allah) | 10:56 |
| shahan | Silver_Fox_: :) | 10:57 |
| Indigo_Studio | hallo :) | 12:21 |
| Silver_Fox_ | Hello Indigo_Studio | 12:22 |
| Indigo_Studio | Someone tells me he i will get help for my beginner-questions :) | 12:22 |
| Indigo_Studio | i installed an screensaver but i cant use them :( | 12:24 |
| Indigo_Studio | why ?? | 12:26 |
| Indigo_Studio | can someone helps me ?? | 12:58 |
| dumbstupidhuman | do you know of an easy way to change my name? | 15:35 |
| dumbstupidhuman | irc name? | 15:36 |
| AbhiJit | /nick name | 15:37 |
| AbhiJit | dumbstupidhuman, ^^ | 15:37 |
| Mohan_chml | dumbstupidhuman: what nick name you want..? | 15:38 |
| === dumbstupidhuman is now known as name | ||
| name | haha | 15:41 |
| === name is now known as jpgnizak | ||
| Mohan_chml | -_-' | 15:44 |
| bobobob | hey guys, does anyone know of a product that just installs a basic os to run VMs and then lets you cycle through VMs with say CTRL-F keys? Just curious, that would be cool... | 15:53 |
| bobobob | or opensource project | 15:53 |
| bobobob | i was installing ubuntu server and saw the VM option and it made me think of that say for a laptop | 15:55 |
| bobobob | okay, I can tell from the deafening silence that someone has already asked this one. :D LOL | 15:56 |
| hobgoblin | or possibly that there is no-one constantly monitoring the channel :d | 15:57 |
| bobobob | LOL, well that could be true too :) | 15:57 |
| hobgoblin | but I've not heard of such a thing - but agree it would be useful tool | 15:57 |
| bobobob | brb | 16:00 |
| === dumbstupidhuman is now known as jpgnizak | ||
| oly562 | hi | 18:53 |
| hobgoblin | oly562: hi | 18:59 |
| Dizzo | Hi, I am trying to get Flash to work on Chrome, but when I try to download the files, I get "Your Google Chrome browser already includes the latest Adobe® Flash® Player built-in." Help? | 19:00 |
| jimboz | does anyone know how to change the number of lines the mouse wheel scrolls per click (currently its at 3 i think) | 19:04 |
| oly562 | dizzo there are many issues with flash, may I ask if your using 64amd cpu? | 19:06 |
| Dizzo | yes! | 19:06 |
| Dizzo | what should I do? | 19:06 |
| oly562 | http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-enable-flash-support-for-google-chromium-browser.html | 19:08 |
| oly562 | if that doesn't work then there is another link im trying to find for you... sb | 19:08 |
| Dizzo | oly562: thanks! | 19:09 |
| oly562 | yw | 19:10 |
| Dizzo | that link seems to work | 19:23 |
| Dizzo | I got some warnings after I enable it | 19:23 |
| Dizzo | but I can ignore those right? | 19:23 |
| Dizzo | [5903:5903:17127102349:ERROR:chrome/common/json_pref_store.cc(44)] Error reading Preferences: File doesn't exist. /root/.config/google-chrome/Default/Preferences: No such file or directory | 19:26 |
| Dizzo | xdg-settings: unknown desktop environment | 19:26 |
| Dizzo | *** NSPlugin Viewer *** WARNING: unhandled variable 18 (<unknown variable>) in NPN_GetValue() | 19:26 |
| Dizzo | But it works! | 19:26 |
| serfus | someone here use Rubyripper? ripping with it is extremely slow | 20:05 |
| kristen | hello? | 20:11 |
| phillw | !topic | 20:11 |
| ubot2 | Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic | 20:11 |
| kristen | im really REALLY new at this and i think i may have done something stupid. wondering if someone could help | 20:12 |
| serfus | kristen, talk to us :) | 20:12 |
| kristen | i cant get my cd rom to run, it makes a start up noise but then nothing | 20:12 |
| kristen | so like an idiot i just kept clicking on things thinking that it would help. like if i reinstalled every program | 20:13 |
| serfus | so what's now? | 20:14 |
| kristen | so now i tried to download my driver for my new printer off the website and it just gives me...well a page of garble | 20:14 |
| kristen | i just want to resore my system back to june when i got it | 20:15 |
| kristen | can you help? | 20:15 |
| serfus | but your printer used to work? | 20:15 |
| kristen | the printer that presently installed works fine | 20:16 |
| kristen | its the new one that i cant get hooked up | 20:16 |
| serfus | oh, you want to restore... hum i'm not sure if it's possible | 20:16 |
| kristen | ok so what are my options? | 20:16 |
| kristen | thanks for helping me by the way:) | 20:17 |
| serfus | i'm confused, what is that you are trying to achieve now? | 20:17 |
| kristen | im getting rid of my old printer | 20:17 |
| kristen | and i just bought a new one today | 20:17 |
| serfus | to install your new printer or to restore your computer? | 20:17 |
| kristen | the cd rom drive isn't working | 20:17 |
| kristen | so i cant install the driver for the new printer | 20:18 |
| kristen | and for some reason i cant download the driver off the webiste either | 20:18 |
| serfus | what happens when you try to download the driver? | 20:18 |
| kristen | i just want the cd rom to work and my new printer to work | 20:18 |
| kristen | ould not open the file /home/kristendecamilla/Desktop/hplip-3.10.6.run using the Unicode (UTF-8) character encoding. | 20:19 |
| kristen | that | 20:19 |
| kristen | and the screen is bright red | 20:19 |
| serfus | how are you trying to run that file? | 20:20 |
| serfus | just run it | 20:20 |
| kristen | like i said i tried and it keeps not letting me | 20:20 |
| serfus | do you know how the check if it's have executing permissions? | 20:21 |
| kristen | not | 20:23 |
| kristen | no | 20:23 |
| kristen | but i can follow directions:) | 20:23 |
| serfus | right click on the file, then properties and then go to permissions tab, there check the "allow executing file as program" | 20:23 |
| serfus | i think this should do the trick | 20:23 |
| serfus | kristen, succeeded? | 20:27 |
| kristen | i dont know | 20:27 |
| kristen | how do i find out | 20:27 |
| serfus | kristen, you did what i said? | 20:28 |
| kristen | yes | 20:28 |
| serfus | now just double click on that file | 20:28 |
| serfus | and run it | 20:28 |
| kristen | should they be read files or read and write files? | 20:28 |
| serfus | it should have the x permission | 20:29 |
| serfus | so you can execute it | 20:30 |
| kristen | wow | 20:30 |
| kristen | its working | 20:30 |
| kristen | now im confused | 20:30 |
| kristen | what do i do when it saysd this | 20:31 |
| serfus | kristen, if it's long use pastebin | 20:31 |
| kristen | it wont let me | 20:31 |
| kristen | hang on | 20:31 |
| kristen | its working | 20:33 |
| kristen | i love you | 20:33 |
| kristen | who eveer you are | 20:33 |
| Mohan_chml | serfus: you got one :P | 20:33 |
| serfus | the pleasure is mine :) | 20:33 |
| Galeo | Hi. I'm currently using wine to install a wireless adpater with the windows drivers, everything goes fine until it says to plug-in my adapter to continue installation. I plug the adapter in, and it says it is not found despite the fact that the adapter is recognized when I type lsusb in cmd. | 20:34 |
| serfus | Mohan_chml, hehe ya... i suppose you have masses | 20:34 |
| Mohan_chml | Galeo: Suggestion 1: Never use Wine | 20:34 |
| Mohan_chml | serfus: :P | 20:35 |
| Mohan_chml | Galeo: why you like to use Windows Drivers?? | 20:36 |
| Galeo | Mohan_chml : until now, I didn't want to, but I can't get it installed another way, and even friends of mine skilled in Ubuntu can't get it through... | 20:36 |
| Mohan_chml | Hmmm..! But It is not good to work with Wine as it will corrupt Us. And Can you explain what happened to your wisreless driver in Ubuntu? | 20:38 |
| Galeo | it is the D-Link DWA-125 wireless n 150 usb adapter, I found a lot of explanations on forums, but it never worked. | 20:38 |
| Mohan_chml | Galeo: you read about wvdail or something like that? | 20:38 |
| Galeo | I'll read about it. Thx. | 20:40 |
| Mohan_chml | Wait | 20:40 |
| Mohan_chml | Galeo: tell me what you read coz I am tired of googling :D | 20:40 |
| Mohan_chml | Galeo: If you could explain a bit more, It will be helpful and read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1563406 | 20:42 |
| Mohan_chml | 46 th and 47 reply sounds that the problem is solved. But idk whether it is your problem | 20:43 |
| Mohan_chml | serfus: you found anything about Rubyripper? | 20:44 |
| Mohan_chml | Hmmm..! I was talking all alone >:| | 20:46 |
| Galeo | msg\ Mohan_chml : sorry, it seems I'm having issues with irc. May I private msg you ? | 20:51 |
| Mohan_chml | Galeo: Sure | 20:51 |
| serfus | Mohan_chml, ya, seems like this is a known problem but i can't find any solution :( | 20:54 |
| Mohan_chml | serfus: try looking for it =] | 20:55 |
| serfus | i am! and google is not helping me | 20:55 |
| Mohan_chml | serfus: sometimes google may fail. But you can find a solution soon ;) | 20:56 |
| serfus | looks like an awesome tool for ripping, but idk why dosn't like ubuntu or rather ubuntu dosn't like it | 20:56 |
| Mohan_chml | serfus: try looking for alternate softwares | 20:57 |
| serfus | there is a bunch of good ripping tools but they don't have some of the features rubyripper has | 21:00 |
| Mohan_chml | argh! | 21:00 |
| Mohan_chml | serfus: then design one Ripper by your own ;) | 21:01 |
| suprengr | serfus: throggen? | 21:02 |
| serfus | Mohan_chml, sure... the best thing i can do now is to " print "hello world" " :D | 21:03 |
| serfus | suprengr, uhm? | 21:03 |
| suprengr | dvd ripper | 21:04 |
| suprengr | ... can deal with drm if really wanted as well | 21:04 |
| serfus | i want to use rubyripper to rip audio not dvd | 21:05 |
| suprengr | soz... has assumed u had audio on dvd in need of it | 21:06 |
| serfus | no. i have audio cd and want to rip it to flac, but it's ok... i used plenty of tools, just having problems with this particular one | 21:07 |
| bodhi_zazen | Anyone want to look this over ? | 22:34 |
| bodhi_zazen | his | 22:34 |
| bodhi_zazen | http://bodhizazen.net/Tutorials/ssh_keys/ | 22:34 |
| Mohan_chml | bodhi_zazen: It looks kewl | 22:37 |
| bodhi_zazen | Mohan_chml: just put it up, looking it over for final touches at the moment, if you see any mistakes ... | 22:46 |
| bodhi_zazen | You may wish to refresh the page | 22:46 |
| Mohan_chml | =] | 22:46 |
| stlsaint | bodhi_zazen: sup | 22:50 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| bodhi_zazen | T for looking at my page Mohan_chml | 23:03 |
| Mohan_chml | bodhi_zazen: I have no other busy work than reading ot at 3:30 AM ;) | 23:04 |
| Mohan_chml | s/ot/it | 23:04 |
| bodhi_zazen | LOL | 23:04 |
| bodhi_zazen | Well, it should put you to sleep =) | 23:05 |
| Mohan_chml | bodhi_zazen: I was also re-building the structure of www.cvoid.com | 23:05 |
| Mohan_chml | so Its not a big deal =] | 23:05 |
| earthling_ | Is there a gui for laptop-mode-tools ? and is it ok to install it on a desktop computer? | 23:06 |
| Mohan_chml | earthling_: I don't think that a GUI is available for that | 23:08 |
| Mohan_chml | I saw a link about this. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=940612 | 23:09 |
| Mohan_chml | earthling_: ^ take a look | 23:09 |
| earthling_ | looks good | 23:10 |
| earthling_ | I just installed the laptop-mode-tools, made the hard drive alot quieter :) | 23:12 |
| Mohan_chml | (: | 23:13 |
| earthling_ | I was looking for weeks for something like that | 23:13 |
| Mohan_chml | Try searching the Forums before looking at anything earthling_ . You can find solution for all issues =] | 23:18 |
| earthling_ | yeah, I think I found it there | 23:21 |
| earthling_ | other than the hard drive noise, my ubuntu experience has greatly exceeded my expectations | 23:22 |
| earthling_ | in 1.5 months time | 23:22 |
| Mohan_chml | earthling_: Its worthless saying that Ubuntu is not User friendly, w/o trying it. If you try it, you will never get back to M$ :D | 23:24 |
| earthling_ | I would agree with that | 23:26 |
| * Mohan_chml needs some sleep. But haz a lot of works to be done :/ | 23:27 | |
| earthling_ | cya Mohan_chml | 23:27 |
| Mohan_chml | earthling_: I will be leaving at 5 AM alone =] | 23:28 |
| Mohan_chml | Its only 4 | 23:28 |
| earthling_ | ah ok | 23:28 |
| earthling_ | I think it would be great if there was Ubuntu stores similar to Apple stores | 23:29 |
| earthling_ | where people would find out about ubuntu for the first time and try things out before they do the usb drive | 23:30 |
| Mohan_chml | earthling_: they are marketing their product for money but we are marketing which we like and want the world to look at it | 23:30 |
| Mohan_chml | so, we are standing tall ;) | 23:30 |
| earthling_ | there's a certain credibility that goes along with a brick and mortar store | 23:31 |
| earthling_ | among the general public | 23:31 |
| Mohan_chml | hmmm! | 23:32 |
| earthling_ | those stores are kindof fun, expensive stuff though | 23:33 |
| phillw | earthling_: there is a 'ubuntu store', where you can purchase merchandise with with the branding; but I you have a read of http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=37 that will give you a better idea of what / who we are, | 23:35 |
| phillw | earthling_: the shop, btw, can be found at https://shop.canonical.com/ | 23:37 |
| earthling_ | I recall seeing something on the desktop about that | 23:38 |
| earthling_ | Ubuntu One Store or something? | 23:38 |
| earthling_ | thats for music I think | 23:39 |
| phillw | earthling_: the on-line store is gradually being developed, it will be a part of the the Ubuntu Software area eventually. I can go dig out the announcement, but it may take me a while :-) | 23:42 |
| earthling_ | ok | 23:44 |
| earthling_ | bbl | 23:44 |
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