| nemo | ok... I've reported a few bugs over the years. and answered in some | 00:13 |
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| nemo | but I never bothered messing with bug settings. I assumed I didn't have permissions | 00:13 |
| nemo | well, I found this bug recently, problem w/ a new laptop of mine - bug had a fix that had been reported 5 months ago | 00:13 |
| nemo | and... I happily commented about how awesome it was, then, wellll, clicked on status got a menu, and tried clicking confirmed. | 00:14 |
| nemo | ... and it worked. | 00:14 |
| nemo | I was kind of surprised | 00:14 |
| nemo | now I'm wondering. why did it work (this was someone else's bug) and. did I commit some breach in protocol? | 00:14 |
| * nemo pokes yofel 'cause he's an opinionated person | 00:14 | |
| yofel | no, everybody can change the status of a bug, except for 'Triaged' and 'Won't Fix' - those are restricted | 00:15 |
| nemo | cool, cool | 00:15 |
| yofel | see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status about when to use what status | 00:16 |
| nemo | ok. confirming seems appropriate since I had same hardware, same laptop, and the fix worked | 00:16 |
| nemo | (and same problem of course) | 00:17 |
| yofel | well, kernel bugs are a bit different, as you should always have your own report and shouldn't mess with other peoples bugs (if apport let's you..) | 00:20 |
| charlie-tca | confirming is good as long as any other information/attachments asked for are there. | 00:21 |
| yofel | as the kernel team doesn't consider you affected by the same bug unless you have the same hardware, I mean *exact* same hardware, bios version, whatever firmware version etc... | 00:21 |
| yofel | well, that's true | 00:21 |
| charlie-tca | That's true, yofel | 00:21 |
| charlie-tca | kernel people ignore any other comments than the original reporter most of the time | 00:22 |
| nemo | hrm | 00:23 |
| charlie-tca | heh | 00:23 |
| nemo | well. his fix requires a kernel patch | 00:23 |
| nemo | (that or manually toggling every time I reboot) | 00:23 |
| nemo | also he wasn't the original reporter | 00:23 |
| nemo | soooo, I guess I'll be manually toggling a lot :) | 00:24 |
| charlie-tca | It is because most of the time, they have to change the patch for each individual piece of hardware, even version changes. | 00:24 |
| nemo | sure, makes sense | 00:24 |
| nemo | after all, if this realtek driver didn't work on any realtek cards. | 00:24 |
| nemo | it would have been fixed by now | 00:25 |
| rusivi | :) | 01:01 |
| rusivi | I am cutting my newb teeth on bug 147203 | 01:02 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 147203 in linux (Ubuntu) "Netgear WG111T not auto-sensed (dups: 2) (heat: 24)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147203 | 01:02 |
| rusivi | I know it is not high heat, nor super huge but I felt compelled because I have been in a similar situation where I went to a store, bought a XYZ USB bluetooth/WiFi dongle just to be sadly disappointed... | 01:03 |
| rusivi | :) | 01:03 |
| rusivi | Both Windows & Ubuntu | 01:04 |
| hggdh | isn this device an USB dongle? | 01:16 |
| rusivi | yes | 01:16 |
| hggdh | hum | 01:16 |
| rusivi | Why do you ask? | 01:16 |
| hggdh | it would be nice to have a 'sudo lsusb -v' with the dongle attached, and simple lsusb without and with it attached | 01:17 |
| hggdh | (the simple lsusb with/without will tell us which device it is, if at all mounted) | 01:18 |
| rusivi | yes it looks like he had it with only... | 01:18 |
| hggdh | no, he had a 'lspci'... this is not PCI... | 01:22 |
| rusivi | sorry I was trolling his dmesg and saw bluetooth activity... granted I am a serious newb but taking one step at a time. | 01:24 |
| rusivi | hehe | 01:24 |
| rusivi | 0.977436] Bluetooth: RFCOMM ver 1.11 | 01:25 |
| rusivi | [ 0.977455] powernow-k8: Processor cpuid 681 not supported | 01:25 |
| hggdh | yeah. Not much to do there right now. If I had one of these dongles, it would be easier | 01:26 |
| hggdh | (apart from asking the OP for the lsusb's -- and saying something like 'sorry, we did not notice it was an USB device.., could you please etc' | 01:26 |
| rusivi | OP = ? | 01:29 |
| ldunn | Original Poster, i.e whoever reported the bug | 01:33 |
| rusivi | ty | 01:33 |
| ldunn | :) | 01:34 |
| ldunn | Hm. I think bug 641082 should be marked as medium importance | 01:54 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 641082 in samba4 (Ubuntu) "testparm.samba4 crashed with ImportError in <module>() (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 18)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/641082 | 01:54 |
| cjae | ok so can I report kubuntu 10.10 bugs here? | 03:43 |
| persia | We don't accept reports: those are better sent to launchpad. | 03:43 |
| persia | But we're very happy to talk about them, and make sure they get triaged, once they are filed. | 03:44 |
| persia | We can't offer support, really, but at least can help make sure the bug is known about and tracked properly. | 03:44 |
| nigelb | cjae: Also, if you feel its a bug in KDE per se, please file it on the KDE bug tracker :) | 03:48 |
| cjae | ok so I had issue with the default ati driver in 10.04 and krandr, when set as vga = primary monitor and hdmi = tv out (plasma) the monitor resolution is fine but the tv has too large a resolution like when I add a panel on the tv at bottom of screen I can barely see it this happened with gnome too | 03:48 |
| cjae | and now it exists in 10.10 as well | 03:49 |
| cjae | I filed a bug about I believe I will check brb | 03:49 |
| cjae | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/637808 | 03:51 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 637808 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (Ubuntu) "only using properitary ati driver can plasma (panasonic plasma) via hdmi be used (affects: 1) (heat: 487)" [Undecided,New] | 03:51 |
| cjae | since I am a noob at reporting is there anything missing from that report? | 03:52 |
| cjae | cause it would be really nice not to have to use the properitary drivers | 03:54 |
| cjae | oh and no hardware drivers show up on this system now using jockey and there is clearly stuff that needs it | 03:55 |
| cjae | yea an actual list of the details, in the details tab on kpackagekit :) | 03:57 |
| ldunn | would bug 646466 be wishlist, or is it big enough to go Brainstorm? | 06:37 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 646466 in ubuntu "Integrate PayPal purchase into software-center (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/646466 | 06:37 |
| persia | ldunn, Belongs upstream or in brainstorm: not the sort of thing we do as a distribution patch. | 07:55 |
| ldunn | Hm. Right. ok. | 07:55 |
| vish | anyone any idea when the dailies for the day get built? | 08:04 |
| persia | vish, Each one happens at a different time. You can check yesterday's as a rough guide. When I tried to pay closer attention, I found that there was considerable variation over time. | 08:12 |
| vish | persia: where do i check yesterday's? [i usually just use testdrive..] | 08:13 |
| vish | .. if needed i just change the modified date of the iso to force an update.. | 08:13 |
| vish | hmm, i think i have the url! | 08:15 |
| vish | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/daily-live/current/ \o/ | 08:17 |
| vish | huh, netbook got built for today already ;p http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/daily-live/current/ | 08:18 |
| persia | vish, Drop the "/current/" and you can see a list: some flavours have a few days worth. | 08:33 |
| vish | ooh! nice yea, they seem to be built at around 9am utc..! | 08:35 |
| vish | another half hr or around that..! ;) | 08:35 |
| * vish plans to do a reinstall asap :D | 08:35 | |
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| cjae | the broadcomm wireless driver does not seem to work in kubuntu 10.10 | 10:28 |
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| rsajdok | Hi, Why Can not I find package? http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gizmod.html | 11:46 |
| hggdh | rsajdok: because there is a bug in packages.qa.debian.org. packages.debian.org returns a "sorry, your search gave no results" | 12:58 |
| hggdh | (a 404 in oher words | 12:58 |
| nigelb | hggdh: because the package isn't there in debian. | 12:59 |
| persia | Indeed. because someone (me) said they would update and push to Debian and didn't. | 13:01 |
| nigelb | heh, what package is it? | 13:02 |
| * nigelb goes to google | 13:02 | |
| persia | gizmod is an input multiplexor | 13:03 |
| persia | So if you have i keyboards, j mice, k game controllers, l remote controls, m knobs and buttons, n joysticks, o MIDI controllers, p random HID devices, and a brain-computer-interface you can find a way to make them all do interestingly different things. | 13:04 |
| nigelb | interesting | 13:05 |
| persia | Yeah. That's why I wanted not to drop it from Ubuntu. Now I just have to fix it: I've dug up most of my controllers, but probably another month or two before I exercise it properly, and have something for upload. | 13:07 |
| nigelb | persia: Oh, OH, OHHHHH - You're the author! | 13:07 |
| persia | No. | 13:07 |
| * persia is just a happy user, and the motivator behind it being packaged for Ubuntu | 13:08 | |
| nigelb | Ah | 13:08 |
| persia | Or, *was* a happy user with a previous computer, and wishes to be a happy user again. | 13:08 |
| * nigelb misunderstood "This is my pet input multiplexor framework" | 13:08 | |
| persia | Of all the input multiplexor frameworks I tested, it was the best. | 13:10 |
| persia | Mind you, the set of folks who have any use for input multiplexors is kinda small: most folk are happy with a keyboard and pointer. | 13:11 |
| persia | On the other hand, some people dream of finding a pristine-condition Microsoft Sidewinder Strategic Commander for use to improve their computing experience. | 13:11 |
| nigelb | Nice | 13:12 |
| nigelb | I've always wanted to play flight simulator on a sidewinder | 13:12 |
| persia | Um, the Strategic Commander isn't that kind of device. | 13:12 |
| * persia uses a Saitek X52 for flight simulators | 13:12 | |
| persia | Wikipedia categorises the Strategic Commander as "exotic" vs. "game pad", "wheel", "joystick", "keypad", etc. which are used for other sorts of controllers. | 13:13 |
| persia | http://www.activewin.com/reviews/hardware/joysticks/microsoft/stratcomm/features.shtml | 13:14 |
| persia | It's a W/Z HID + buttons. | 13:15 |
| persia | (where mice tend to be X/Y) | 13:15 |
| hggdh | morning folks | 13:37 |
| AbhiJit | hi | 13:42 |
| nigelb | persia: ah, ok! | 14:03 |
| nigelb | The only reason for flight simular on sidewinder is the feedback :p | 14:04 |
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| kamusin | do you know is there is a page for how to submit a bug using 8.04? I tried to install apport and apport-cli breaks while is sending or doing something at 85% .. | 16:46 |
| kamusin | server | 16:46 |
| charlie-tca | kamusin: you can use this - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs#Filing%20bugs%20at%20Launchpad.net | 16:55 |
| charlie-tca | apport works part-time right now | 16:56 |
| kamusin | I know but would be nice if exists another form to do it from the terminal heh | 16:56 |
| kamusin | anyway, the bug that I tried to report in otrs2 package is already filled :) thanks | 16:57 |
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| bcurtiswx_ | 10.10.10 isn't too far away either :) | 18:08 |
| bcurtiswx_ | whoops wrong chan | 18:08 |
| devildante | you got lost :p | 18:09 |
| bcurtiswx_ | my dog byte led me the wrong direction :P | 18:09 |
| devildante | heh :p | 18:09 |
| devildante | oh, so the next meeting is 12 Oct? this wasn't present on the topic before... great :) | 18:12 |
| bcurtiswx_ | yup, figured maybe more people will attend if they see it in the topic | 18:13 |
| bcurtiswx_ | we have a meeting bot too, that will take minutes for us | 18:13 |
| devildante | yay! | 18:13 |
| charlie-tca | we are gaining... | 18:13 |
| charlie-tca | devildante: do you need any help setting up the BugDay? | 18:20 |
| devildante | charlie-tca: not for now, but I'll be sure to ping you if I have some problems | 18:20 |
| charlie-tca | Okay. Thanks | 18:20 |
| devildante | Thank YOU for offering me your help :) | 18:21 |
| bilalakhtar | devildante: Hello there! Appears you are going to host a class for UOW, what would it be on? decided? | 18:21 |
| devildante | bilalakthar: Hi! :) I just modified the title, It will be "How to contribute to Ubuntu" | 18:22 |
| devildante | I'll be sure to "link" to your session :) | 18:22 |
| bilalakhtar | devildante: CLASH! | 18:22 |
| bilalakhtar | okay | 18:22 |
| bilalakhtar | fine then | 18:22 |
| bilalakhtar | but I was aiming for one like this! | 18:22 |
| devildante | bilalakhtar: yours is about development, mine will be general (code, translations, art...) | 18:23 |
| devildante | bug triaging :p | 18:23 |
| bilalakhtar | okay then | 18:23 |
| devildante | bilalakhtar: ping | 18:31 |
| bilalakhtar | Thanks devildante ! | 18:31 |
| devildante | no problem :) | 18:31 |
| hggdh | enjoy: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/09/24/sysadmin_file_tools/ | 19:14 |
| bcurtiswx_ | hggdh, this is a bug support channel! :P .. good article tho | 19:25 |
| * bcurtiswx_ runs | 19:25 | |
| hggdh | LOL | 19:25 |
| kamusin | hah | 19:29 |
| yofel | :D | 19:31 |
| charlie-tca | :-) | 19:43 |
| rusivi | :) | 20:37 |
| rusivi | I was newb'in around in bug 147203 and it looks this is the next step to focus on: Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub | 21:17 |
| rusivi | Bus 001 Device 002: ID 1385:4251 Netgear, Inc WG111T (no firmware) | 21:17 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 147203 in linux (Ubuntu) "Netgear WG111T not auto-sensed (dups: 2) (heat: 26)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147203 | 21:17 |
| devildante | charlie-tca: ping | 21:19 |
| rusivi | That was from Netgear USB Adapter lsusb plug/unplugged | 21:20 |
| charlie-tca | yup | 21:20 |
| rusivi | :D | 21:20 |
| rusivi | ty | 21:20 |
| charlie-tca | wait | 21:20 |
| rusivi | yes? | 21:20 |
| charlie-tca | go ahead and confirm it | 21:20 |
| rusivi | Yes sir! | 21:21 |
| devildante | charlie-tca: is there a graph for bugs with the jaunty tag? | 21:21 |
| charlie-tca | my brain is slow aghain | 21:21 |
| rusivi | Would you like me to silent confirm or post a little of my above mentioned thought process? | 21:21 |
| charlie-tca | devildante: if you add that part to the bugday, the graph gets created, I think | 21:21 |
| devildante | waaaaaa? automatically or what? | 21:22 |
| rusivi | charlie-tca | 21:23 |
| charlie-tca | automatically or bdmurray creates it | 21:23 |
| devildante | charlie-tca: how could it even be created automatically? via a script? | 21:24 |
| charlie-tca | yup | 21:24 |
| devildante | ah... thanks :) | 21:24 |
| charlie-tca | no problem | 21:24 |
| rusivi | I'll just confirm and let my progress stand | 21:25 |
| charlie-tca | setting up system 6 for testing | 21:25 |
| devildante | charlie-tca: so I can just leave the graph url as is, just changing the TARGET bit? | 21:25 |
| charlie-tca | yup | 21:25 |
| charlie-tca | I think it will work. | 21:25 |
| devildante | 'kay, thanks :) | 21:25 |
| bdmurray | I'm not sure it will | 21:25 |
| charlie-tca | heh, well, there's the person that really knows | 21:26 |
| devildante | bdmurray: I'll do http://people.ubuntu.com/~brian/complete-graphs/jaunty/plots/jaunty-1day-triaging.png | 21:26 |
| devildante | Do you want me to put another URL? | 21:26 |
| charlie-tca | No, just leave the graph off it | 21:26 |
| devildante | okay :) | 21:27 |
| devildante | charlie-tca: btw, you said jpds was in charge of the screenshot uploading stuff. Should I ping him? | 21:29 |
| charlie-tca | no, I said mdke, I thought. | 21:33 |
| devildante | ah, thanks :) | 21:33 |
| charlie-tca | He hangs out it #ubuntu-doc | 21:33 |
| charlie-tca | jpds probably get upset with that idea :-) | 21:34 |
| devildante | charlie-tca: aaaaaand another question: is there no bugnumbers in maverick? | 22:00 |
| charlie-tca | where? | 22:01 |
| charlie-tca | There should be bugnumbers | 22:01 |
| devildante | I mean the bugnumbers command, from the bughelper package | 22:01 |
| charlie-tca | Oh | 22:01 |
| charlie-tca | I don't know. I do the listings manually, using the openoffice technique | 22:01 |
| devildante | okay, thanks a lot :) | 22:02 |
| devildante | charlie-tca: seems the CONCATENATE formula is not working :( | 22:29 |
| charlie-tca | Let me find it here | 22:31 |
| charlie-tca | hmm, here is the real formula - =CONCATENATE("||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/,A1,"|",A1,"]] || ",B1;" || ||" ) | 22:39 |
| charlie-tca | I think | 22:39 |
| charlie-tca | I apparently changed it a bit, when I used it. | 22:39 |
| charlie-tca | oh, that semicolon after B1 needs to be a comma | 22:40 |
| charlie-tca | devildante: did that one work? | 22:46 |
| devildante | charlie-tca: sorry for being late. no, it didn't work :( | 22:47 |
| charlie-tca | hmm | 22:47 |
| charlie-tca | Well, there is the complicated method I used, then. | 22:47 |
| charlie-tca | line 1 of OpenOffice spreadsheet - ||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://launchpad.net/bugs/|]] || || || | 22:48 |
| charlie-tca | Well, that isn't right either, huh? | 22:49 |
| devildante | I'll try, don't be hasty :p | 22:49 |
| devildante | Doesn't do anything... or do I have to add CONCATENATE? | 22:50 |
| charlie-tca | Okay, lets do it one at a time | 22:50 |
| charlie-tca | A1 = ||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://launchpad.net/bugs/ | 22:51 |
| charlie-tca | B1 = | | 22:51 |
| devildante | oh, so I add a new line to the top? | 22:51 |
| charlie-tca | yup | 22:51 |
| charlie-tca | C1 = ]] || | 22:51 |
| charlie-tca | That has a space after the symbols | 22:52 |
| charlie-tca | D1 = || || | 22:52 |
| charlie-tca | space before the symbols | 22:52 |
| charlie-tca | bug numbers in A2 down | 22:53 |
| charlie-tca | description in B2 down | 22:53 |
| charlie-tca | formula for C2 down | 22:53 |
| charlie-tca | =CONCATENATE($A$1,A2,$B$1,A2,$C$1,B2,$D$1) | 22:53 |
| charlie-tca | pasted just like that | 22:53 |
| charlie-tca | Change A1 to ||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/ | 22:54 |
| charlie-tca | if we don't use the right url, it messes up the hugday tool | 22:55 |
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| devildante | it works only for the first row (C2) | 22:58 |
| charlie-tca | You copied it down the column? | 22:58 |
| charlie-tca | You have to copy it to each cell in column C | 22:59 |
| devildante | waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa? | 22:59 |
| devildante | silly me, there must an automatic way :p | 22:59 |
| charlie-tca | Took me 4 hours to figure it out from the wiki | 23:00 |
| devildante | haha | 23:00 |
| devildante | it needs some serious fixing | 23:00 |
| charlie-tca | yeah, I guess it does | 23:01 |
| charlie-tca | I fixed it some, guess I just didn't go far enough, huh? | 23:02 |
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| devildante | yeah :p | 23:02 |
| charlie-tca | So, you think I have to put all of this in there? | 23:03 |
| * devildante is a complete n00b in OpenOffice, he can't seem to know how to copy the formula in all the cells | 23:03 | |
| devildante | charlie-tca: Idk, some opinions would be necessary, I think | 23:03 |
| charlie-tca | Click the cell you want to copy, Then click edit - copy | 23:04 |
| charlie-tca | Then hilite the cells you want to copy to, like C3 to C100 | 23:04 |
| charlie-tca | Then click Edit - Paste | 23:04 |
| charlie-tca | Then ignore that flashing cell and work normal | 23:05 |
| devildante | it pastes only for the upper cell of the selection :( | 23:06 |
| charlie-tca | why? | 23:07 |
| charlie-tca | I guess you have to paste each one, then | 23:07 |
| devildante | I have like 150 bugs here, I can't do that :p | 23:08 |
| devildante | a | 23:08 |
| charlie-tca | Oh, yeah | 23:08 |
| charlie-tca | Are all your C column lined up, or is it spread all over? | 23:08 |
| devildante | what do you mean? It's, like, normal :p | 23:09 |
| jpds | charlie-tca / devildante: Screenshot uploading stuff? | 23:09 |
| devildante | solved by mdke the nice man :) | 23:09 |
| charlie-tca | Okay. Mine the columns were merged bad | 23:10 |
| devildante | Mine? | 23:10 |
| charlie-tca | Do all the descriptions start in the same place, so the column is aligned? | 23:11 |
| devildante | They start at the same place, although most of them are breaking the limits of their column (but they all are in the B column) | 23:13 |
| charlie-tca | http://imagebin.org/115569 | 23:15 |
| charlie-tca | water on the keyboard, if it quits, I will be back after I change it out | 23:16 |
| * devildante will sleep nevertheless | 23:16 | |
| devildante | can we continue tomorrow? | 23:16 |
| charlie-tca | yup | 23:17 |
| devildante | thanks and bye :) | 23:17 |
| charlie-tca | bye | 23:17 |
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