[01:13] jono: Should I start filling out this report or wait for an email? [01:13] doctormo, feel free to begin [01:13] thanks! [01:21] * doctormo has sent out the requests for information and will begin. [01:56] OK that's a wrap for today, first draft of the art report and messages sent out to various communities about feedback. [06:05] aloha [06:09] czajkowski: you're an early bird today :) [06:09] good morning! [06:21] nigelb: aye i need to go to kilkenny today and from there to dublin [06:21] so lots of driving [06:23] czajkowski: Have a good day then! [06:28] ohh new bones is out :D [06:37] czajkowski: Would have thought the train would be easier? [06:37] Not sure how Ireland compares to England with trains though. [06:55] doctormo: not really an option i need to collect items go to places and then out to my sisters [06:55] would be far too expensive and time consuming via train [06:55] right i'm off [06:56] bye! [07:11] hello all [07:28] hey duanedesign [07:32] hello doctormo. did you get my msg? [07:32] duanedesign: which one? [07:36] doctormo: probably about 12hrs ago. about uds. [07:37] duanedesign: I dont _think_ so [07:59] good morning fellas [08:24] goood Friday morning everyone! [08:27] aha, it is friday :) [08:27] \o/ [08:40] good morning again, everyone! [08:40] (IRC seems to be a bit flaky here today) [08:44] dpm: here too [08:45] * duanedesign seems to remember receiving a global notice about a server going down for emergency maintenance [08:54] morning duanedesign :) [09:02] ugh @ bug 605577 [09:02] Launchpad bug 605577 in yelp (Ubuntu) (and 4 other projects) "Help contents title bar shows cubes with numbers instead of a proper title (affects: 126) (dups: 65) (heat: 826)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/605577 [09:03] hello nigelb [09:13] nigelb: caused by the British trying to take over the world by the look of it [09:14] actually no, George Bernard Shaw was Irish [09:17] dpm: your fav bug ^ ;) [09:20] * AlanBell files bug 646651 [09:20] Launchpad bug 646651 in ubuntu-font-family "Include Shavian Alphabet Glyphs (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/646651 [10:15] morning nigelb, vish and AlanBell [12:46] On one side it has mustard and on the other hp, but it's sausage all the way through. It is, BREAKfast sandwich! here to relieve the bordem of the day. [12:49] doctormo: you are far too excited about breakfast [12:49] food, I could use some. [12:49] * nigelb waves to penny :) [12:52] Pendulum: When your day is as mine, you relish every meal. [12:52] jcastro: POKE. PING. [12:58] Pendulum: I'm spending _weeks_ getting this apartment ship-shape and bristol fashion... so.. many... yarn.. balls. [12:58] \o/ back on Freenode! [12:59] dpm: wait, where were you then? Canonical IRC? [12:59] Ah, today Freenode has some urgent repair stuff [13:00] nigelb, I could only get into the canonical servers, gimp.net, oftc and the others. Yeah, duanedesign mentioned it this morning [13:00] dpm: we should have a backup on oftc :p [13:01] We do have the #debian-ubuntu there though ;) [13:01] ah, I'm on only a couple of debian channels there, let me add that one :) [13:05] doctormo: fun :P [13:27] jcastro, do you know what Stephen Kelly irc nick is I can't seem to find them in Launchpad :-/ Also who is going to give the telepathy session it's still listed as TBD [13:53] jcastro, all current sessions for App Dev Week are listed on the classroom calendar - and there is a block on the Fridge Calendar as well [13:58] akgraner: When is the App Dev Week? [14:00] next week [14:00] you'll see a reminder on the planet and fridge in about an hour [14:00] * AlanBell considers himself duely reminded [14:00] if I scheduled the post correctly - :-) if not I'll post it manually [14:00] yay 5 back-to-back foosball victories! [14:00] also all instructors will get an email from me [14:06] jcastro: i think bilal will be giving a session too for UOW ! akgraner helped.. :) [14:07] vish, yep scheduling it now [14:07] hmmm - I marked myself as back but it's not showing me as back [14:07] weird [14:12] it's on the schedule now :-) === ara__ is now known as ara [14:31] akgraner: yeah the telepathy one might be TBD until we start [14:31] thanks for your work on that! [14:34] you're welcome [15:14] JFo: where in the world are you? [15:14] * nigelb curious about "getting here was eventfull enough" [15:15] * AlanBell thinks JFo is to the east of nigelb [15:16] * nigelb suspects that too. [15:16] * nigelb is trying to figure how easterly. [15:16] hello everyone :) [15:17] there is a canonical OEM enablement thingie in Taipei [15:17] Aha, could be. [15:21] nigelb: is it 7:50 pm where you are? [15:21] nigelb, Taiwan [15:21] duanedesign: yep [15:21] JFo: aaaaah [15:21] :) [15:21] Ubuntu Hardware Summit was today [15:21] great time [15:22] nigelb: i use FoxClocks to keep track of time in everyones locale [15:22] JFo: ooooh, that's great to know! [15:22] duanedesign: heh, me too! [15:22] * JFo is soooo tired now :-/ [15:22] JFo: was there great partcipation from hardware vendors? [15:23] nigelb, we had about 200 people there [15:23] JFo: WOW [15:23] yeah, great talks all around [15:23] thats good :) [15:25] Colin King's was my favorite... Dustin's was also great [15:25] today's xkcd rocks [15:26] well, I'm off to bed. Car pick up is at 6AM [15:26] ciao [15:33] jcastro: POKE again :) [15:33] * nigelb writes script to poke him every 30 minutes [15:33] wut [15:33] jcastro: ah, the UDS tracks page could use some css love [15:33] daviey asked me to talk to you [15:34] http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-n/ [15:34] working on it now [15:34] jcastro: no, the uds.ubuntu.com/tracks page is what I'm talking about [15:34] it isn't on LP :( [15:34] what do you mean not on lp? [15:34] jcastro: it is? [15:34] where? [15:35] I don't understand the question [15:35] oh, you want to modify the CSS for that page? [15:35] jcastro: http://uds.ubuntu.com/tracks/ the css is broken, how can I help fix it? [15:35] aloha [15:35] I am not sure, we're using whatever wordpress template we got from somewhere [15:35] jono would know, he set that up but I am running it [15:35] if you can give me the code, I'll fix it for ya [15:35] I will ask him [15:36] I have wp admin privs [15:36] is that enough? [15:36] nope, need ftp access I think [15:36] oh [15:36] I dunno anything about that, I will ask [15:36] I think we have one theme for all ubuntu wp instances? [15:36] wp-admin might be enough [15:36] AlanBell: yeah? /me doesn't do wordpress that much [15:37] oh [15:37] if the user wp is running under (www-data probably) has write access to the theme files then they can be poked about with in the integrated theme editor [15:37] i think I found it [15:37] yep [15:37] oh yay [15:38] it appears to be the Loco light theme [15:38] http://launchpad.net/wordpress-loco [15:38] but this particular sytle seems to be applied inline [15:38] is the URL in the theme [15:38] I suspect hardcoding [15:38] ah [15:38] AlanBell: thoughts? [15:38] it's using div loco-columns [15:39] jcastro: yes, but style is inline, do you see it applied inline? [15:40] no [15:40] it's just some h3's and ul''s [15:40] can you give me access to view content or something for 10 mins? [15:40] (or copy paste the html source someplace for me?) [15:41] yeah [15:41] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/499756/ [15:41] that's all it is [15:41] * nigelb facepalms [15:41] where is that inline style coming from :( [15:44] jcastro: do you have some time to play around with it? [15:45] oh, I see, the grey loco-columns box should contain the li bits [15:46] AlanBell: its supposed to contain all the bits? I thought only the headings [15:47] that might be a bit tricky to arrange [15:47] AlanBell: a bit of hard-coding needed [15:47] um, quick fix that won't break other stuff that uses the loco-columns class would be to add an inline style with a height declaration [15:48] and also set height for h3 [15:48] so something like
[15:48] wow, how did you get the em's right? :) [15:48] firebug ftw [15:48] haha, I calculated 45px [15:49] hey all [15:49] heya jono [15:49] jcastro, I forgot to mention, I am not going to be able to make the UDS planning call as I am on holiday today recording solos [15:49] hey nigelb [15:49] we're trying to break....er fix I uds site :p [15:49] what UDS planning call? [15:49] 'ello jono [15:49] haha [15:49] jcastro: I like that :p [15:50] jcastro, 9am Pac [15:50] oh nm, I see it [15:50] sigh [15:50] ok [15:50] jcastro, whats wrong? [15:50] why the sigh? [15:50] nothing, this stupid SQL [15:50] I think we got it sorted [15:50] what SQL? [15:50] to make summit work [15:50] AlanBell: the effect I thought was: http://imagebin.org/115502 [15:50] to add the time slots, etc. [15:51] I think it's almost ready though [15:51] jcastro, ok thanks [15:51] the "sigh" is because I hate computers today [15:51] jcastro, ahhh ok [15:51] (more than normal) [15:51] so long as everything is OK [15:51] we'll find out on monday when summit is a molten slag! Mwahahahaha [15:51] with that note, some caffeine for me [15:52] nigelb: ah, I see. I try not to use pixel heights when it is supposed to line up with the height of a font, I think ems scale with the font [15:53] AlanBell: let me try to use em to get that effect [15:54] AlanBell: 4em for the style and 3 em for the h3 seems to work okay. [15:54] jcastro: so, I got a fix for you. [15:54] agreed, but will that break h3 anywhere else? [15:54] jcastro: tonight i will talk with my wife about taking a slot for ubuntu studio in open week, i need to make sure i can block out the time and there are no other plans [15:54] AlanBell: should override css on that page [15:54] no worries [15:54] scott-work: anyone from your project can do it [15:54] it doesn't have to be YOU per se [15:55] nigelb: ok, that sounds safe [15:55] nigelb: pastebin it somewhere [15:56] jcastro: will do [15:56] nigelb: be back in 8 minutes, then I'll post it [15:57] jcastro: awesome, thanks :) [15:59] jcastro: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/499766/ [15:59] AlanBell: ^^ does that sound right? [15:59] do both in the style block [15:59] jcastro: the div thing, you'll have to do twice [15:59] ohh, I didn't know that [16:01] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/499767/ [16:01] AlanBell: ah, that [16:02] jcastro: ^^ AlanBell's solution is much better, just put that style on top :) [16:07] ok [16:07] trying it now [16:07] \o/ [16:08] ok how's that? [16:08] beautiful [16:08] * nigelb has tears in eyes [16:09] ok, not really. But you get what I mean :p [16:09] the sweet taste of victory! [16:09] oh YES! [16:12] jono: belated pong, what is up [16:14] ok, off for the day [16:14] g'nite :) [16:14] yay [16:15] bye nigelb, have a great weekend! [16:15] dpm: thanks, you too! [16:15] * nigelb hugs AlanBell [16:15] Team work ftw! [16:15] * AlanBell hugs nigelb [16:15] * AlanBell tried to tab complete hu [16:16] haha [16:16] Technoviking, ahhh hey [16:16] Technoviking, see http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/09/23/taking-a-step-back-with-fresh-eyes/ [16:16] want to do the report for Support? [16:16] jono: sure [16:17] thanks Technoviking! [16:18] no problem [16:22] hey mike [16:22] jcastro: sup [16:22] who's been working on the theme for the forums? [16:22] jcastro: me [16:23] what is gerry cars irc nick ? [16:23] has someone from design been helping you? [16:25] Inayail give me some resources. [16:25] who? [16:25] We probably will not change the theme till we upgrade to vB4, the theme engine between the two version is vastly different [16:26] that was my guess [16:26] Technoviking: I gave up and joined the signature crowd [16:26] i mailed ivanka re the LD and she got someone to look at it and give us some feedback [16:26] when in rome! [16:26] Inayali Leon [16:26] now we have more bugs :) [16:26] jcastro: whats gerry carrs irc nick ? [16:26] czajkowski: he's usually gerry [16:27] jcastro: thank you my dear [16:27] Technoviking: heh, I've not heard of her until just now [16:27] jcastro: I apoligize for that discussion, the forums folk were far to rude. [16:27] it's ok, I've been on the forums for 6 years, I can handle them [16:28] LP needs a system to flag comments as approicate [16:28] I just ignore them [16:28] Of Mad Dog always says never make technical solution for human problems:) [16:31] jcastro: get the new Distrubed album [16:31] I heard the single [16:31] I haven't decided yet [16:32] Alex wanted it, so I listen to the whole album to see if it was safe for a teenager:) I enjoyed it [16:32] I've liked their last 2 [16:33] I've been stuck on sara bareilles' new album though [16:34] ugh, 14 bucks, dang 7 digital [16:34] 9 bucks on amazon [16:34] why does supporting Aq always cost me more money? [16:35] jcastro: Alex ask me to help him download some Bob Marley last week, In the era of Bieber, I was so proud [16:40] wow [16:40] they really fixed the speed of ubuntuone [16:40] that was fast [16:51] jcastro: they have [16:52] jcastro: while on the topic. Have you noticed the changing metadata triggering a redownload bug in awhile, or specifically on Maverick? [16:55] dunno, I have no clue what my U1 clients are doing at any given time [16:58] jcastro: have you seen magicicada? It is a GUI for the syncdaemon. Shows a lot more info [17:01] but the lack of feedback is one of the most common issues users have [17:02] yeah I just haven't used it yet [17:02] I am aware it exists [17:04] im anxiously awaiting couch replication to be turned back on. [17:08] I really want to test OneConf and get back to working on Stipple [18:16] tsimpson: http://uds.ubuntu.com/participate/remote/ [18:16] I got the room list [18:17] I doubt we'll use that many [18:17] but I figure it's easier to remove them than add them last minute [18:17] heh [18:17] jcastro: wow is that going to be confusing :-/ [18:18] yeah [18:19] * tsimpson bookmarks [18:20] jcastro: what is the plenary room? [18:20] oh, just -uds I guess? [18:21] just hope icecast is going to be all set in time for http://ubingo.libertus.co.uk [18:21] I hope the plenary stream works! [18:23] * Pendulum is not counting chickens before they hatch [18:24] * AlanBell goes to check for eggs and count chickens [18:25] Pendulum: it won't be that many rooms [18:25] they just haven't decided which are ours and which are linaros [18:25] so I figure add them all now [18:25] easier to delete later than add them a week before [18:26] jcastro: yeah, definitely. it's more the fact that most of them are the same base name with the number after them [18:27] yeah [18:27] I am kind of hoping for just like boinaire 1-8 [18:27] that way we can just use numbers and not care about the name [18:27] heh [18:28] oh, can I PM you about something? [18:28] jcastro: ^^ [18:28] sure [18:28] I am stepping out for 5, so just pm and I'll respnd when I get back [18:29] okay :) I need to head out shortly myself, but just leave a message :) [19:06] anyone got a smartphone? [19:06] http://qrcode.kaywa.com/img.php?s=8&d=http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-n [19:06] test that please! [19:08] akgraner: that calendar looks jawesome [19:08] thanks! I tried to make sure it was all in place :-) [19:09] you and jono should have an email that was just sent to all the session leads [19:09] I saw [19:09] there are a few people I don't have email address for or couldn't find an LP page for [19:10] I'll email you so you can forward it to them if you don't mind [19:10] akgraner: what level of lernid use are we going for? [19:10] AlanBell, we aren't pushing lernid this time [19:10] ok, does that mean don't do slides? [19:10] if people are familiar with it we are going to make sure it is available [19:10] you can if you want - lernid will be available [19:11] but I was told since it is not maintained then not to tell people to use it - if they already know about it and want to use it to let people know it will be available [19:11] lernid is not maintained? [19:12] That's what I was just told by nigelb [19:12] well earlier today - I missed the classroom meeting on Wednesday where it was discussed [19:12] so they wanted me to know not to push lernid this time :-/ [19:24] jcastro: qrcode works :) [19:31] AlanBell: i know [n]handler was working on a Lernid bug. He is , self admittingly, not a Python developer so i imagine they are in need of some python peeps to show the package some attention [19:33] duanedesign: Any specific bugs need help with? [19:38] doctormo: i was just trying to figure that out :) [19:43] duanedesign: I will fix one python bug for you :-) [19:46] doctormo: i just started a new project. I read the post on the Planet about 'password cards'. The author mentioned it was not open source. So I thought I would make one [19:47] doctormo: i pinged nathan to find out about lernid. I know one bug he was working on was bug 533279 [19:47] Launchpad bug 533279 in lernid (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Remove need for .lernid configuration files (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/533279 [19:54] duanedesign: If he's working on it already what should I do? [19:55] AlanBell: no one has heard from the maintainer for lernid in months so, yes, it's pretty much unmaintained now [19:56] must . . . not . . . volunteer [19:58] AlanBell: lol, it's a controversial bug IMO. Not only is it really 4 bugs rolled into one, but it's swapping out a flat file with fields for proprietary online services. (yea ok ical can be served from anything, but we're using google calendar for this.) Real solution: steal some loco directory code and make a _very_ simple single use form website which can add events which generate the lernid confs and the icals. [20:00] doctormo: yeah, first bug filed against lernid, by me [20:00] Actually it's so small I'd be willing to use it as an example to teach some aspiring person how to make django/python websites. It's technical mostly copy and paste anyway. [20:01] Forget front facing, we'll just use the django admin interface, which kills all css and html requirements. Next use existing code, 4) profit! [20:52] anyone know what's up with fullcircle's feed on planet? [20:53] good idea getting them on there (whoevers it was) [21:01] ok I'm outta here for this evening - gotta go play band mom :-) Have a good weekend y'all! [21:35] akgraner: Thanks for the updates and the hard work [22:17] wow 5pm already, day just went zooming past [22:18] Where is everyone btw? [22:58] doctormo: im here [22:59] cjohnston: How are you? [22:59] good... spent most of the day sleeping though :-/ [23:00] I wish I was... or my body wishes it were