[01:13] <doctormo> jono: Should I start filling out this report or wait for an email?
[01:13] <jono> doctormo, feel free to begin
[01:13] <jono> thanks!
[01:21]  * doctormo has sent out the requests for information and will begin.
[01:56] <doctormo> OK that's a wrap for today, first draft of the art report and messages sent out to various communities about feedback.
[06:05] <czajkowski> aloha
[06:09] <nigelb> czajkowski: you're an early bird today :)
[06:09] <nigelb> good morning!
[06:21] <czajkowski> nigelb: aye i need to go to kilkenny today and from there to dublin
[06:21] <czajkowski> so lots of driving
[06:23] <nigelb> czajkowski: Have a good day then!
[06:28] <czajkowski> ohh new bones is out :D
[06:37] <doctormo> czajkowski: Would have thought the train would be easier?
[06:37] <doctormo> Not sure how Ireland compares to England with trains though.
[06:55] <czajkowski> doctormo: not really an option i need to collect items go to places and then out to my sisters
[06:55] <czajkowski> would be far too expensive and time consuming via train
[06:55] <czajkowski> right i'm off
[06:56] <doctormo> bye!
[07:11] <duanedesign> hello all
[07:28] <doctormo> hey duanedesign
[07:32] <duanedesign> hello doctormo. did you get my msg?
[07:32] <doctormo> duanedesign: which one?
[07:36] <duanedesign> doctormo: probably about 12hrs ago. about uds.
[07:37] <doctormo> duanedesign: I dont _think_ so
[07:59] <kim0> good morning fellas
[08:24] <dpm> goood Friday morning everyone!
[08:27] <duanedesign> aha, it is friday :)
[08:27] <duanedesign> \o/
[08:40] <dpm> good morning again, everyone!
[08:40] <dpm> (IRC seems to be a bit flaky here today)
[08:44] <duanedesign> dpm: here too
[08:45]  * duanedesign seems to remember receiving a global notice about a server going down for emergency maintenance
[08:54] <dpm> morning duanedesign :)
[09:02] <nigelb> ugh @ bug 605577
[09:02] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 605577 in yelp (Ubuntu) (and 4 other projects) "Help contents title bar shows cubes with numbers instead of a proper title (affects: 126) (dups: 65) (heat: 826)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/605577
[09:03] <duanedesign> hello nigelb
[09:13] <AlanBell> nigelb: caused by the British trying to take over the world by the look of it
[09:14] <AlanBell> actually no, George Bernard Shaw was Irish
[09:17] <vish> dpm: your fav bug ^ ;)
[09:20]  * AlanBell files bug 646651
[09:20] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 646651 in ubuntu-font-family "Include Shavian Alphabet Glyphs (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/646651
[10:15] <doctormo> morning nigelb, vish and AlanBell
[12:46] <doctormo> On one side it has mustard and on the other hp, but it's sausage all the way through. It is, BREAKfast sandwich! here to relieve the bordem of the day.
[12:49] <Pendulum> doctormo: you are far too excited about breakfast
[12:49] <nigelb> food, I could use some.
[12:49]  * nigelb waves to penny :)
[12:52] <doctormo> Pendulum: When your day is as mine, you relish every meal.
[12:52] <nigelb> jcastro: POKE.  PING.
[12:58] <doctormo> Pendulum: I'm spending _weeks_ getting this apartment ship-shape and bristol fashion... so.. many... yarn.. balls.
[12:58] <dpm> \o/ back on Freenode!
[12:59] <nigelb> dpm: wait, where were you then? Canonical IRC?
[12:59] <nigelb> Ah, today Freenode has some urgent repair stuff
[13:00] <dpm> nigelb, I could only get into the canonical servers, gimp.net, oftc and the others. Yeah, duanedesign mentioned it this morning
[13:00] <nigelb> dpm: we should have a backup on oftc :p
[13:01] <nigelb> We do have the #debian-ubuntu there though ;)
[13:01] <dpm> ah, I'm on only a couple of debian channels there, let me add that one :)
[13:05] <Pendulum> doctormo: fun :P
[13:27] <akgraner> jcastro, do you know what Stephen Kelly irc nick is I can't seem to find them in Launchpad :-/  Also who is going to give the telepathy session it's still listed as TBD
[13:53] <akgraner> jcastro, all current sessions for App Dev Week are listed on the classroom calendar - and there is a block on the Fridge Calendar as well
[13:58] <doctormo> akgraner: When is the App Dev Week?
[14:00] <akgraner> next week
[14:00] <akgraner> you'll see a reminder on the planet and fridge in about an hour
[14:00]  * AlanBell considers himself duely reminded
[14:00] <akgraner> if I scheduled the post correctly - :-)  if not I'll post it manually
[14:00] <nigelb> yay 5 back-to-back foosball victories!
[14:00] <akgraner> also all instructors will get an email from me
[14:06] <vish> jcastro: i think bilal will be giving a session too for UOW ! akgraner helped.. :)
[14:07] <akgraner> vish, yep scheduling it now
[14:07] <akgraner> hmmm - I marked myself as back but it's not showing me as back
[14:07] <akgraner> weird
[14:12] <akgraner> it's on the schedule now :-)
[14:31] <jcastro> akgraner: yeah the telepathy one might be TBD until we start
[14:31] <jcastro> thanks for your work on that!
[14:34] <akgraner> you're welcome
[15:14] <nigelb> JFo: where in the world are you?
[15:14]  * nigelb curious about "getting here was eventfull enough"
[15:15]  * AlanBell thinks JFo is to the east of nigelb 
[15:16]  * nigelb suspects that too.
[15:16]  * nigelb is trying to figure how easterly.
[15:16] <scott-work> hello everyone :)
[15:17] <AlanBell> there is a canonical OEM enablement thingie in Taipei
[15:17] <nigelb> Aha, could be.
[15:21] <duanedesign> nigelb: is it 7:50 pm where you are?
[15:21] <JFo> nigelb, Taiwan
[15:21] <nigelb> duanedesign: yep
[15:21] <nigelb> JFo: aaaaah
[15:21] <duanedesign> :)
[15:21] <JFo> Ubuntu Hardware Summit was today
[15:21] <JFo> great time
[15:22] <duanedesign> nigelb: i use FoxClocks to keep track of time in everyones locale
[15:22] <nigelb> JFo: ooooh, that's great to know!
[15:22] <nigelb> duanedesign: heh, me too!
[15:22]  * JFo is soooo tired now :-/
[15:22] <nigelb> JFo: was there great partcipation from hardware vendors?
[15:23] <JFo> nigelb, we had about 200 people there
[15:23] <nigelb> JFo: WOW
[15:23] <JFo> yeah, great talks all around
[15:23] <duanedesign> thats good :)
[15:25] <JFo> Colin King's was my favorite... Dustin's was also great
[15:25] <nigelb> today's xkcd rocks
[15:26] <JFo> well, I'm off to bed. Car pick up is at 6AM
[15:26] <JFo> ciao
[15:33] <nigelb> jcastro: POKE  again :)
[15:33]  * nigelb writes script to poke him every 30 minutes
[15:33] <jcastro> wut
[15:33] <nigelb> jcastro: ah, the UDS tracks page could use some css love
[15:33] <nigelb> daviey asked me to talk to you
[15:34] <jcastro> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-n/
[15:34] <jcastro> working on it now
[15:34] <nigelb> jcastro: no, the uds.ubuntu.com/tracks page is what I'm talking about
[15:34] <nigelb> it isn't on LP :(
[15:34] <jcastro> what do you mean not on lp?
[15:34] <nigelb> jcastro: it is?
[15:34] <nigelb> where?
[15:35] <jcastro> I don't understand the question
[15:35] <jcastro> oh, you want to modify the CSS for that page?
[15:35] <nigelb> jcastro: http://uds.ubuntu.com/tracks/ the css is broken, how can I help fix it?
[15:35] <czajkowski> aloha
[15:35] <jcastro> I am not sure, we're using whatever wordpress template we got from somewhere
[15:35] <jcastro> jono would know, he set that up but I am running it
[15:35] <nigelb> if you can give me the code, I'll fix it for ya
[15:35] <jcastro> I will ask him
[15:36] <jcastro> I have wp admin privs
[15:36] <jcastro> is that enough?
[15:36] <nigelb> nope, need ftp access I think
[15:36] <jcastro> oh
[15:36] <jcastro> I dunno anything about that, I will ask
[15:36] <jcastro> I think we have one theme for all ubuntu wp instances?
[15:36] <AlanBell> wp-admin might be enough
[15:36] <nigelb> AlanBell: yeah? /me doesn't do wordpress that much
[15:37] <jcastro> oh
[15:37] <AlanBell> if the user wp is running under (www-data probably) has write access to the theme files then they can be poked about with in the integrated theme editor
[15:37] <jcastro> i think I found it
[15:37] <jcastro> yep
[15:37] <nigelb> oh yay
[15:38] <jcastro> it appears to be the Loco light theme
[15:38] <jcastro> http://launchpad.net/wordpress-loco
[15:38] <nigelb> but this particular sytle seems to be applied inline
[15:38] <jcastro> is the URL in the theme
[15:38] <nigelb> I suspect hardcoding
[15:38] <jcastro> ah
[15:38] <nigelb> AlanBell: thoughts?
[15:38] <jcastro> it's using div loco-columns
[15:39] <nigelb> jcastro: yes, but style is inline, do you see it applied inline?
[15:40] <jcastro> no
[15:40] <jcastro> it's just some h3's and ul''s
[15:40] <nigelb> can you give me access to view content or something for 10 mins?
[15:40] <nigelb> (or copy paste the html source someplace for me?)
[15:41] <jcastro> yeah
[15:41] <jcastro> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/499756/
[15:41] <jcastro> that's all it is
[15:41]  * nigelb facepalms
[15:41] <nigelb> where is that inline style coming from :(
[15:44] <nigelb> jcastro: do you have some time to play around with it?
[15:45] <AlanBell> oh, I see, the grey loco-columns box should contain the li bits
[15:46] <nigelb> AlanBell: its supposed to contain all the bits? I thought only the headings
[15:47] <AlanBell> that might be a bit tricky to arrange
[15:47] <nigelb> AlanBell: a bit of hard-coding needed
[15:47] <AlanBell> um, quick fix that won't break other stuff that uses the loco-columns class would be to add an inline style with a height declaration
[15:48] <nigelb> and also set height for h3
[15:48] <AlanBell> so something like <div class="loco-columns" style="height:15em;">
[15:48] <nigelb> wow, how did you get the em's right? :)
[15:48] <AlanBell> firebug ftw
[15:48] <nigelb> haha, I calculated 45px
[15:49] <jono> hey all
[15:49] <nigelb> heya jono
[15:49] <jono> jcastro, I forgot to mention, I am not going to be able to make the UDS planning call as I am on holiday today recording solos
[15:49] <jono> hey nigelb
[15:49] <nigelb> we're trying to break....er fix I uds site :p
[15:49] <jcastro> what UDS planning call?
[15:49] <scott-work> 'ello jono
[15:49] <nigelb> haha
[15:49] <nigelb> jcastro: I like that :p
[15:50] <jono> jcastro, 9am Pac
[15:50] <jcastro> oh nm, I see it
[15:50] <jcastro> sigh
[15:50] <jcastro> ok
[15:50] <jono> jcastro, whats wrong?
[15:50] <jono> why the sigh?
[15:50] <jcastro> nothing, this stupid SQL
[15:50] <jcastro> I think we got it sorted
[15:50] <jono> what SQL?
[15:50] <jcastro> to make summit work
[15:50] <nigelb> AlanBell: the effect I thought was: http://imagebin.org/115502
[15:50] <jcastro> to add the time slots, etc.
[15:51] <jcastro> I think it's almost ready though
[15:51] <jono> jcastro, ok thanks
[15:51] <jcastro> the "sigh" is because I hate computers today
[15:51] <jono> jcastro, ahhh ok
[15:51] <jcastro> (more than normal)
[15:51] <jono> so long as everything is OK
[15:51] <jcastro> we'll find out on monday when summit is a molten slag! Mwahahahaha
[15:51] <jcastro> with that note, some caffeine for me
[15:52] <AlanBell> nigelb: ah, I see. I try not to use pixel heights when it is supposed to line up with the height of a font, I think ems scale with the font
[15:53] <nigelb> AlanBell: let me try to use em to get that effect
[15:54] <nigelb> AlanBell: 4em for the style and 3 em for the h3 seems to work okay.
[15:54] <nigelb> jcastro: so, I got a fix for you.
[15:54] <AlanBell> agreed, but will that break h3 anywhere else?
[15:54] <scott-work> jcastro: tonight i will talk with my wife about taking a slot for ubuntu studio in open week,  i need to make sure i can block out the time and there are no other plans
[15:54] <nigelb> AlanBell: should override css on that page
[15:54] <jcastro> no worries
[15:54] <jcastro> scott-work: anyone from your project can do it
[15:54] <jcastro> it doesn't have to be YOU per se
[15:55] <AlanBell> nigelb: ok, that sounds safe
[15:55] <jcastro> nigelb: pastebin it somewhere
[15:56] <nigelb> jcastro: will do
[15:56] <jcastro> nigelb: be back in 8 minutes, then I'll post it
[15:57] <nigelb> jcastro: awesome, thanks :)
[15:59] <nigelb> jcastro: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/499766/
[15:59] <nigelb> AlanBell: ^^ does that sound right?
[15:59] <AlanBell> do both in the style block
[15:59] <nigelb> jcastro: the div thing, you'll have to do twice
[15:59] <nigelb> ohh, I didn't know that
[16:01] <AlanBell> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/499767/
[16:01] <nigelb> AlanBell: ah, that
[16:02] <nigelb> jcastro: ^^ AlanBell's solution is much better, just put that style on top :)
[16:07] <jcastro> ok
[16:07] <jcastro> trying it now
[16:07] <nigelb> \o/
[16:08] <jcastro> ok how's that?
[16:08] <nigelb> beautiful
[16:08]  * nigelb has tears in eyes
[16:09] <nigelb> ok, not really.  But you get what I mean :p
[16:09] <jcastro> the sweet taste of victory!
[16:09] <nigelb> oh YES!
[16:12] <Technoviking> jono: belated pong, what is up
[16:14] <nigelb> ok, off for the day
[16:14] <nigelb> g'nite :)
[16:14] <AlanBell> yay
[16:15] <dpm> bye nigelb, have a great weekend!
[16:15] <nigelb> dpm: thanks, you too!
[16:15]  * nigelb hugs AlanBell 
[16:15] <nigelb> Team work ftw!
[16:15]  * AlanBell hugs nigelb 
[16:15]  * AlanBell tried to tab complete hu<tab>
[16:16] <nigelb> haha
[16:16] <jono> Technoviking, ahhh hey
[16:16] <jono> Technoviking, see http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/09/23/taking-a-step-back-with-fresh-eyes/
[16:16] <jono> want to do the report for Support?
[16:16] <Technoviking> jono: sure
[16:17] <jono> thanks Technoviking!
[16:18] <Technoviking> no problem
[16:22] <jcastro> hey mike
[16:22] <Technoviking> jcastro: sup
[16:22] <jcastro> who's been working on the theme for the forums?
[16:22] <Technoviking> jcastro: me
[16:23] <czajkowski> what is gerry cars irc nick ?
[16:23] <jcastro> has someone from design been helping you?
[16:25] <Technoviking> Inayail give me some resources.
[16:25] <jcastro> who?
[16:25] <Technoviking> We probably will not change the theme till we upgrade to vB4, the theme engine between the two version is vastly different
[16:26] <jcastro> that was my guess
[16:26] <jcastro> Technoviking: I gave up and joined the signature crowd
[16:26] <czajkowski> i mailed ivanka re the LD and she got someone to look at it and give us some feedback
[16:26] <jcastro> when in rome!
[16:26] <Technoviking> Inayali Leon
[16:26] <czajkowski> now we have more bugs :)
[16:26] <czajkowski> jcastro: whats gerry carrs irc nick ?
[16:26] <jcastro> czajkowski: he's usually gerry
[16:27] <czajkowski> jcastro: thank you my dear
[16:27] <jcastro> Technoviking: heh, I've not heard of her until just now
[16:27] <Technoviking> jcastro: I apoligize for that discussion, the forums folk were far to rude.
[16:27] <jcastro> it's ok, I've been on the forums for 6 years, I can handle them
[16:28] <Technoviking> LP needs a system to flag comments as approicate
[16:28] <jcastro> I just ignore them
[16:28] <Technoviking> Of Mad Dog always says never make technical solution for human problems:)
[16:31] <Technoviking> jcastro: get the new Distrubed album
[16:31] <jcastro> I heard the single
[16:31] <jcastro> I haven't decided yet
[16:32] <Technoviking> Alex wanted it, so I listen to the whole album to see if it was safe for a teenager:) I enjoyed it
[16:32] <jcastro> I've liked their last 2
[16:33] <jcastro> I've been stuck on sara bareilles' new album though
[16:34] <jcastro> ugh, 14 bucks, dang 7 digital
[16:34] <jcastro> 9 bucks on amazon
[16:34] <jcastro> why does supporting Aq always cost me more money?
[16:35] <Technoviking> jcastro: Alex ask me to help him download some Bob Marley last week, In the era of Bieber, I was so proud
[16:40] <jcastro> wow
[16:40] <jcastro> they really fixed the speed of ubuntuone
[16:40] <jcastro> that was fast
[16:51] <duanedesign> jcastro: they have
[16:52] <duanedesign> jcastro: while on the topic. Have you noticed the changing metadata triggering a redownload bug in awhile, or specifically on Maverick?
[16:55] <jcastro> dunno, I have no clue what my U1 clients are doing at any given time
[16:58] <duanedesign> jcastro: have you seen magicicada? It is a GUI for the syncdaemon. Shows a lot more info
[17:01] <duanedesign> but the lack of feedback is one of the most common issues users have
[17:02] <jcastro> yeah I just haven't used it yet
[17:02] <jcastro> I am aware it exists
[17:04] <duanedesign> im anxiously awaiting couch replication to be turned back on.
[17:08] <duanedesign> I really want to test OneConf and get back to working on Stipple
[18:16] <jcastro> tsimpson: http://uds.ubuntu.com/participate/remote/
[18:16] <jcastro> I got the room list
[18:17] <jcastro> I doubt we'll use that many
[18:17] <jcastro> but I figure it's easier to remove them than add them last minute
[18:17] <jcastro> heh
[18:17] <Pendulum> jcastro: wow is that going to be confusing :-/
[18:18] <jcastro> yeah
[18:19]  * tsimpson bookmarks
[18:20] <AlanBell> jcastro: what is the plenary room?
[18:20] <AlanBell> oh, just -uds I guess?
[18:21] <AlanBell> just hope icecast is going to be all set in time for http://ubingo.libertus.co.uk
[18:21] <Pendulum> I hope the plenary stream works!
[18:23]  * Pendulum is not counting chickens before they hatch
[18:24]  * AlanBell goes to check for eggs and count chickens
[18:25] <jcastro> Pendulum: it won't be that many rooms
[18:25] <jcastro> they just haven't decided which are ours and which are linaros
[18:25] <jcastro> so I figure add them all now
[18:25] <jcastro> easier to delete later than add them a week before
[18:26] <Pendulum> jcastro: yeah, definitely. it's more the fact that most of them are the same base name with the number after them
[18:27] <jcastro> yeah
[18:27] <jcastro> I am kind of hoping for just like boinaire 1-8
[18:27] <jcastro> that way we can just use numbers and not care about the name
[18:27] <Pendulum> heh
[18:28] <Pendulum> oh, can I PM you about something?
[18:28] <Pendulum> jcastro: ^^
[18:28] <jcastro> sure
[18:28] <jcastro> I am stepping out for 5, so just pm and I'll respnd when I get back
[18:29] <Pendulum> okay :) I need to head out shortly myself, but just leave a message :)
[19:06] <jcastro> anyone got a smartphone?
[19:06] <jcastro> http://qrcode.kaywa.com/img.php?s=8&d=http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-n
[19:06] <jcastro> test that please!
[19:08] <jcastro> akgraner: that calendar looks jawesome
[19:08] <akgraner> thanks! I tried to make sure it was all in place :-)
[19:09] <akgraner> you and jono should have an email that was just sent to all the session leads
[19:09] <jcastro> I saw
[19:09] <akgraner> there are a few people I don't have email address for or couldn't find an LP page for
[19:10] <akgraner> I'll email you so you can forward it to them if you don't mind
[19:10] <AlanBell> akgraner: what level of lernid use are we going for?
[19:10] <akgraner> AlanBell, we aren't pushing lernid this time
[19:10] <AlanBell> ok, does that mean don't do slides?
[19:10] <akgraner> if people are familiar with it we are going to make sure it is available
[19:10] <akgraner> you can if you want - lernid will be available
[19:11] <akgraner> but I was told since it is not maintained then not to tell people to use it - if they already know about it and want to use it to let people know it will be available
[19:11] <AlanBell> lernid is not maintained?
[19:12] <akgraner> That's what I was just told by nigelb
[19:12] <akgraner> well earlier today - I missed the classroom meeting on Wednesday where it was discussed
[19:12] <akgraner> so they wanted me to know not to push lernid this time :-/
[19:24] <duanedesign> jcastro: qrcode works :)
[19:31] <duanedesign> AlanBell: i know [n]handler was working on a Lernid bug. He is , self admittingly, not a Python developer so i imagine they are in need of some python peeps to show the package some attention
[19:33] <doctormo> duanedesign: Any specific bugs need help with?
[19:38] <duanedesign> doctormo: i was just trying to figure that out :)
[19:43] <doctormo> duanedesign: I will fix one python bug for you :-)
[19:46] <duanedesign> doctormo: i just started a new project. I read the post on the Planet about 'password cards'. The author mentioned it was not open source. So I thought I would make one
[19:47] <duanedesign> doctormo: i pinged nathan to find out about lernid. I know one bug he was working on was bug 533279
[19:47] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 533279 in lernid (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Remove need for .lernid configuration files (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/533279
[19:54] <doctormo> duanedesign: If he's working on it already what should I do?
[19:55] <Pendulum> AlanBell: no one has heard from the maintainer for lernid in months so, yes, it's pretty much unmaintained now
[19:56] <AlanBell> must . . . not . . . volunteer
[19:58] <doctormo> AlanBell: lol, it's a controversial bug IMO. Not only is it really 4 bugs rolled into one, but it's swapping out a flat file with fields for proprietary online services. (yea ok ical can be served from anything, but we're using google calendar for this.) Real solution: steal some loco directory code and make a _very_ simple single use form website which can add events which generate the lernid confs and the icals.
[20:00] <AlanBell> doctormo: yeah, first bug filed against lernid, by me
[20:00] <doctormo> Actually it's so small I'd be willing to use it as an example to teach some aspiring person how to make django/python websites. It's technical mostly copy and paste anyway.
[20:01] <doctormo> Forget front facing, we'll just use the django admin interface, which kills all css and html requirements. Next use existing code, 4) profit!
[20:52] <jcastro> anyone know what's up with fullcircle's feed on planet?
[20:53] <jcastro> good idea getting them on there (whoevers it was)
[21:01] <akgraner> ok I'm outta here for this evening - gotta go play band mom :-) Have a good weekend y'all!
[21:35] <doctormo> akgraner: Thanks for the updates and the hard work
[22:17] <doctormo> wow 5pm already, day just went zooming past
[22:18] <doctormo> Where is everyone btw?
[22:58] <cjohnston> doctormo: im here
[22:59] <doctormo> cjohnston: How are you?
[22:59] <cjohnston> good... spent most of the day sleeping though :-/
[23:00] <doctormo> I wish I was... or my body wishes it were