| JamesPage | ttx: enjoyed you blog post today :-) | 14:09 |
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| ttx | JamesPage: I needed to write that for posterity | 14:17 |
| ttx | also I don't like unsubstantiated "I hate Java" posts | 14:18 |
| JamesPage | JamesPage: :-) read that one to! | 14:18 |
| ttx | heh | 14:18 |
| JamesPage | ttx: I think that the idea of a reference platform is a good idea | 14:31 |
| JamesPage | so it might make sense to push development features into the platform first | 14:32 |
| ttx | JamesPage: that's basically what we do with Eucalyptus | 14:32 |
| JamesPage | so that it gets better development adoption | 14:33 |
| ttx | JamesPage: ask them to build on our platform | 14:33 |
| ttx | support our versions | 14:33 |
| ttx | the main issue is that our platform is really Debian's | 14:33 |
| ttx | so it changes unexpectantly | 14:33 |
| ttx | and in some cases eucalyptus can't align themselves | 14:34 |
| ttx | so we use some copied packages | 14:34 |
| ttx | (limited code duplication) | 14:34 |
| ttx | works with Eucalyptus because they wanted us as a conduit for mainstream distribution, so they accepted to comply | 14:35 |
| JamesPage | guess the question is how do we make it work with the rest of the open source java community | 14:36 |
| ttx | I think JPackage was a neat idea. It's just herculean work though | 14:37 |
| JamesPage | So supporting a wider range of build toolsets and development frameworks and tools (such as Hudson) | 14:37 |
| JamesPage | might drive people to the platform due to the features its provides | 14:37 |
| persia | The issue of "changes unexpectedly" can also be addressed by closer integration with pkg-java | 15:23 |
| persia | We don't need to be surprised, if we're coordinating tightly. | 15:23 |
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