[03:58]  * freeflying 
[10:08] <inkvizitor68sl> re all
[16:00] <Riddell> hi
[16:01] <ttx> \o
[16:01]  * joshuahoover waves
[16:01] <didrocks> hey
[16:01] <cjwatson> hi
[16:02] <ScottK> o/
[16:02] <iulian> Hi.
[16:02] <skaet> hi all. ...
[16:02] <skaet> #startmeeting
[16:02] <MootBot> Meeting started at 10:02. The chair is skaet.
[16:02] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[16:03] <skaet> [TOPIC]  open actions
[16:03] <MootBot> New Topic:   open actions
[16:04] <skaet> # sistpoty to update delegations list and mail out - done 20090922
[16:04] <skaet> # skaet to update release process with multiverse delegation decision time, and freeze times.
[16:04] <skaet> have gone in and added some notes to the release process as well,  so that
[16:04] <skaet> should be close to done as well for the second one.
[16:05] <skaet> ScottK,  sistpoty - can you review?
[16:06] <ScottK> Sure. Link?
[16:06] <skaet> will post later
[16:06] <ScottK> OK
[16:07] <skaet> Other than that,  been seeing lots of good progress on closing bugs this week.   Very cool.
[16:07] <ogra> moo
[16:07] <skaet> Big thanks to all :D
[16:07] <skaet> did I miss any action items?
[16:08]  * skaet taking silence as no ;),  ... and moving along then
[16:08] <skaet> [TOPIC] QA updates
[16:08] <MootBot> New Topic:  QA updates
[16:09] <marjo_> Hardware testing
[16:09] <marjo_> http://people.canonical.com/~cr3/hw-testing/current.html
[16:09] <marjo_> Boot Performance
[16:09] <marjo_> http://people.canonical.com/~ameetp/BootChart.html
[16:09] <marjo_> Boot Performance Week of 2010-09-17 to 2010-09-23
[16:09] <marjo_> -------------------------------------------------
[16:09] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~cr3/hw-testing/current.html
[16:09] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~ameetp/BootChart.html
[16:09] <marjo_> Number of system regressions on Ubuntu Desktop: 0
[16:09] <marjo_> Number of system regressions on Ubuntu Netbook Edition: 0
[16:09] <marjo_> Number of system regressions on Kubuntu: 0
[16:09] <marjo_> Spec Status
[16:09] <marjo_>  * http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-platform-qa-ubuntu-10.10.html
[16:09] <marjo_>  * https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/qa-maverick-improving-communication
[16:09] <marjo_>  * https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/qa-maverick-mago-daily
[16:09] <marjo_>  ara is making good progress on both
[16:09] <marjo_>  Other blueprints are 100% complete.
[16:09] <marjo_> skaet: short and sweet status this week
[16:10] <marjo_> ameetp is working on getting more systems to be included in boot metrics
[16:10] <skaet> marjo,  cool.
[16:10] <marjo_> skaet: that's it from QA Team
[16:11] <skaet> thanks marjo_
[16:11] <skaet> any questions?
[16:12] <skaet> [TOPIC] security team update
[16:12] <MootBot> New Topic:  security team update
[16:12] <jdstrand> o/
[16:12] <jdstrand> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
[16:12] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
[16:12] <skaet> hi jdstrand
[16:12] <jdstrand> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/maverick/canonical-security.html
[16:12] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/maverick/canonical-security.html
[16:12] <jdstrand> Again, wrt the burndown chart, what is left for us is not tied to the release.
[16:12] <jdstrand> We have a couple bugs we have deferred to SRU: bug #626984 and bug #640993
[16:13] <jdstrand> The team has been reviewing security bugs that affect the maverick release, and have been pushing last minute updates in. We plan to continue to review these.
[16:13] <jdstrand> that's pretty much it
[16:13] <skaet> thanks jdstrand,   any questions?
[16:14] <jdstrand> sure
[16:14] <skaet> hmm,  now that I think of it,  should I be removing bug #625849 from the agenda?
[16:15] <skaet> ahh... now released
[16:15] <skaet> yup should remove it.  ;)
[16:15] <jdstrand> I would say yes :)
[16:15] <skaet> cool.   Thanks!
[16:15] <skaet> ... ok then,  moving right along
[16:16] <skaet> [TOPIC] kernel team update
[16:16] <MootBot> New Topic:  kernel team update
[16:16] <ogasawara> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
[16:16] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/maverick/canonical-kernel-team-ubuntu-10.10.html
[16:16] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/maverick/canonical-kernel-team.svg
[16:16] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
[16:16] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/maverick/canonical-kernel-team-ubuntu-10.10.html
[16:16] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/maverick/canonical-kernel-team.svg
[16:16] <ogasawara> For the bugs noted in the agenda, status is as follows:
[16:16] <ogasawara> Bug 633392 - Have inquired about additional debug info from the reporter.
[16:16] <ogasawara> Bug 628029 - This has been re-targeted to maverick-updates.
[16:16] <ogasawara> Bug 615722 - We don't support a fsl-imx51 kernel in Maverick.  I've marked this as Invalid against Maverick and asked for clarification if it's re-opened.
[16:16] <ogasawara> Bug 613083 - Per jjohansen's commments from last week's release meeting, Amazon is addressing this issue.
[16:16] <ogasawara> Bug 497546 - There's no confirmation that this issue remains with Maverick so I've asked for testing.
[16:17] <ogasawara> As a general status, per a Kernel Freeze Exception last week (bug 641648) we've uploaded what we hope to be the final Maverick kernel (2.6.35-22.33).  We continue to be below the trend line for our overall burn down chart and all of our workitems are now complete.
[16:17] <ogasawara> We are also starting to queue Maverick SRU patches, including the 2.6.35.5 upstream stable patch set.  I did however want to inquire about a 0-day kernel upload for a subset of patches.  We have 5 low/medium security fixes for CVE's and some AppArmor security fixes that will be landing shortly.  I'm told these are not release critical and don't need immediate upload.  However, I think they do warrent a 0-day kernel uploa
[16:17] <ogasawara> d.  I can write up a more detailed bug report for official consideration/approval if this sounds reasonable.  Thoughts?
[16:17] <cjwatson> 0-day kernel upload is practically traditional by now
[16:17] <ogasawara> it is :)
[16:18]  * skaet notes this.   ;)
[16:18] <skaet> thanks ogasawara,  sounds reasonable.
[16:18] <ogasawara> skaet: ack, will get you a detailed report for approval.
[16:18] <skaet> thanks for the quick cut/paste update - sweet.   :)
[16:18] <ogasawara> Any other questions?
[16:18] <skaet> anyone else have questions?
[16:18] <skaet> snap
[16:19] <skaet> :)
[16:19] <doko> ogasawara: any word on bug #605042 ?
[16:19] <ogasawara> doko: not that I'm aware of at the moment, will ping cooloney.
[16:21] <skaet> [ACTION] ogasawara to write up detailed bug report for those that may warrant a 0 day kernel upload.
[16:21] <MootBot> ACTION received:  ogasawara to write up detailed bug report for those that may warrant a 0 day kernel upload.
[16:22] <skaet> ok ogasawara?
[16:22] <ogasawara> skaet: yep
[16:22] <skaet> cool
[16:22] <skaet> any other questions?
[16:23] <skaet> [TOPIC]  foundation team update
[16:23] <MootBot> New Topic:   foundation team update
[16:23] <cjwatson> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
[16:23] <cjwatson> Generally feeling pretty good at this point.  We have traction on three of our longest-standing RC bugs (441941, 544139, 605042), and plenty of throughput elsewhere.  software-center is now 3.0!
[16:23] <cjwatson> The only one that still particularly scares me is the cluster of machines reporting boot loader issues in bug 641259.  While this may still prove to be intractable, we'll see what we can do.
[16:24] <cjwatson> Can desktop folks (both GNOME and KDE) please review bug 459639?  There's a comment from Scott saying that while it perhaps ought to be fixed in Upstart in the long run, it should be worked around by display manager packages in the meantime; no comment from desktop maintainers since then.
[16:24] <cjwatson> It's not clear whether bug 625294 is a syslinux problem at all, rather than a BIOS problem (perhaps related to bug 625383).  I've updated the bug report with my findings.
[16:24] <cjwatson> that's all I have currently but am open to reminders of things we seem to have forgotten
[16:24] <ttx> cjwatson: sure? :)
[16:24] <didrocks> cjwatson: I'll add it to our list for getting desktop team feedback
[16:25] <cjwatson> ttx: go ahead, if you have something ...
[16:25] <cjwatson> didrocks: thanks
[16:25] <ttx> #
[16:25] <ttx> Bug 641259 - grub does not appear to load after maverick post-beta install
[16:25] <ttx> #
[16:25] <ttx> Bug 569900 - mount: mounting /dev/md0 on /root/ failed: Invalid argument
[16:25] <ttx> that's the two in my list
[16:25] <cjwatson> I mentioned 641259 above
[16:26] <cjwatson> if you guys have anyone who can look at it directly with physical access, I welcome them doing some debugging to try to figure out what's going on
[16:26] <cjwatson> but I don't see how I can do significant amounts remotely at this point
[16:27] <ttx> cjwatson: ack
[16:27] <cjwatson> I thought I'd asked Surbhi to look into bug 569900, but will check
[16:28] <ttx> cjwatson: thanks !
[16:28] <cjwatson> it's also I think obviously not maverick-critical since we released lucid with it
[16:28] <cjwatson> and only happens in particular circumstances depending on the previous contents of the disks
[16:29] <ttx> cjwatson: right -- this one is nice to have, not necessarily RC.
[16:29] <cjwatson> though I do have bug 605720 open in my queue, since a commenter on the bug reckons that's the root cause
[16:30] <skaet> thanks cjwatson,  sounds like we're fairly smooth towards the release from your perspective (relative to prior ones ;) )?
[16:30] <ttx> skaet: we'll see how calm he is by that time next week :)
[16:31] <skaet> :)
[16:31] <cjwatson> quite so.  not getting complacent yet
[16:31] <cjwatson> the truncated cycle has meant fewer features going in, hence less to go wrong
[16:31]  * skaet keeping fingers crossed for a calm week in london ;)
[16:31] <skaet> cool.   thanks
[16:31]  * ttx crosses fingers for a short week.
[16:32] <skaet> yup, hoping for week to end on friday (mostly) not sunday ;)
[16:32] <skaet> [TOPIC] server team update
[16:32] <MootBot> New Topic:  server team update
[16:32] <cjwatson> I go home on Friday either way ;-)
[16:33] <ttx> See updated status at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MaverickReleaseStatus
[16:33] <ttx> No release-milestoned bugs, and for all the others, I don't think any of those would warrant a post-RC fix
[16:33] <ttx> 3 high bugs left:
[16:33] <ttx> #
[16:33] <ttx> Bug 582963 - apache2 SSL pass phrase dialog can't read input (zul/SpamapS): in progress
[16:33] <ttx> #
[16:33] <ttx> Bug 629005 - libmysqlclient / mysql-cluster upgrade snafu (zul): in progress
[16:33] <ttx> #
[16:33] <ttx> Bug 644587 (universe) - drizzle FTBFS (SpamampS): in progress
[16:34] <ttx> We have 9 other maverick-targeted bugs that we may fix before RC as well.
[16:34] <ttx> Maverick bugs affecting server, in other teams:
[16:34] <ttx> I already mentioned the Foundations ones
[16:34] <ttx> We have 3 kernel bugs related to cloud images:
[16:34] <ttx> #
[16:34] <ttx> Bug 613083 - user-data is corrupted inside metadata service
[16:34] <ttx> #
[16:34] <ttx> Bug 613273 - kernel panic on ec2 in system_call_fastpath
[16:34] <ttx> #
[16:34] <ttx> Bug 634487 - t1.micro instance hangs when installing sun java
[16:35] <ttx> those are all on jjohansen's radar
[16:35] <ttx> On the specs side...
[16:35] <ttx> Essential/High/Medium specs < 60% completion
[16:35] <ttx> #
[16:35] <ttx> server-maverick-cloud-images-sans-cloud (0%) - only one work item, in progress
[16:35] <ttx> #
[16:35] <ttx> server-maverick-workitemtracker (0%) - a bit late, but process-related only
[16:35] <ttx> #
[16:35] <ttx> server-maverick-puppet-bootstrap (43%)
[16:35] <ttx> #
[16:35] <ttx> server-maverick-daily-vcs (50%)
[16:35] <ttx> all tasks being disconnected from release anyway.
[16:35] <ttx> That's all from me...
[16:35] <skaet> cool.
[16:36] <ttx> one last thing
[16:36] <skaet> thanks ttx
[16:36] <skaet> ?
[16:36] <ttx> i'll be at a conference next Thursday, for RC milestone release
[16:36] <ttx> Daviey and mathiaz should cover for me if need be
[16:36] <skaet> good to know,  thanks.
[16:37] <skaet> any questions?
[16:37] <skaet> [TOPIC] desktop team update
[16:37] <MootBot> New Topic:  desktop team update
[16:37] <didrocks> hi
[16:37] <didrocks> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus
[16:37] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus
[16:37] <didrocks> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/maverick/canonical-desktop-team.html
[16:37] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/maverick/canonical-desktop-team.html
[16:37] <didrocks> Work items summary: We are on track for maverick, most of the items remaining on the chart are testsuite or bug workflow ones
[16:37] <didrocks> Week work summary:
[16:37] <didrocks> * Unity got updated to a new version which fixes more than 40 bugs! still a new version coming after the meeting.
[16:38] <didrocks> * One of the fix relied on an libindicator ABI transition, which has been handled (14 rdepends). Still waiting on ubiquity merge.
[16:38] <didrocks> * Lot of bugs have been fixed
[16:38] <didrocks> * Some UIF exceptions completed for unity and indicators particularly
[16:38] <didrocks> * Final pieces (except glib/gtk) from GNOME 2.31.92 has been uploaded.
[16:38] <didrocks> Notes:
[16:38] <didrocks> * GNOME 2.32.0 tarballs are released on Monday
[16:38] <didrocks> * New unity this afternoon to be uploaded
[16:38] <didrocks>  
[16:38] <didrocks> Bugs:
[16:38] <didrocks> * being investigated
[16:38] <didrocks> bug #329898: interaction in some locales with ibus issue, needs to be confirmed on maverick still
[16:38] <didrocks> bug #602899: bug assigned to our xorg maintainer who asked the submitter to test previous kernel to find when the regression happened
[16:38] <didrocks> bug #614119: pitti work on it on Monday
[16:38] <didrocks> bug #575160: cyphermox is looking at it, not sure it's trivial
[16:38] <didrocks>  
[16:38] <didrocks>  
[16:38] <didrocks> * being worked
[16:38] <didrocks> bug #628077: intel driver issue with a patch available in ppa, still need to be uploaded
[16:38] <didrocks>  
[16:38] <didrocks> * fixed this week
[16:38] <didrocks> bug #625696: fixed in a nautilus upload
[16:38] <didrocks> bug #606706: fixed by pitti
[16:38] <didrocks> bug #187823: after discussion with debian maintainer, the crashing part due to new cairo of the testsuite is ignored
[16:38] <didrocks> bug #607490: fixed and confirmed by some comments.
[16:38] <didrocks> bug #641056: gdk-pixbuf fix is done, and ia32-libs just approved 5 minutes ago!
[16:39] <didrocks> that's it for me :)
[16:39] <skaet> :)
[16:39] <skaet> Thanks didrocks.   nice progress indeed.
[16:39] <skaet> any questions?
[16:40] <skaet> [TOPIC] ubuntu one update
[16:40] <MootBot> New Topic:  ubuntu one update
[16:40] <doko> didrocks: any update on bug #632594 ?
[16:40]  * joshuahoover waits...
[16:40]  * skaet thanks joshuahoover
[16:40] <didrocks> doko: not that I know of, will add it to our radar
[16:41] <doko> didrocks: just breaks any testsuite using xvfb ...
[16:41] <doko> thanks
[16:41] <didrocks> doko: will ask to RAOF for the xorg side, I'll have a look for metacity one
[16:42] <joshuahoover> ready for ubuntu one now? :)
[16:42] <skaet> go for it.  :)
[16:42] <joshuahoover> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/MaverickReleaseStatus
[16:42] <joshuahoover> hi! the list of bugs we're targeting for maverick release are found on that release status page i posted
[16:42] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/MaverickReleaseStatus
[16:42] <joshuahoover> there are 6 bugs we'd still like to get in for release if possible
[16:42] <joshuahoover> we went through our maverick bugs list and determined there are some that will be better as SRUs so these 6 are the ones left that we think are important for release (listing below with rough order of importance & a little detail on each):
[16:42] <joshuahoover> bug #643787 - Erlang certificate verification does not work with new SSL...we need to get this in to get couchdb replication working properly...statik is working on getting the upload ready...we need to file an sru for lucid and karmic but need to test things first
[16:42] <joshuahoover> bug #422178 - CouchDB needs to properly enable SSL support...need this to get couchdb replication working (along w/ erlang bug mentioned above)...statik chatted with mdeslaur about getting sru of the maverick version of couchdb into lucid and karmic - sounds like that'll be ok...but first need to get this in for maverick :) ...working on that right now
[16:42] <joshuahoover> bug #618945 - working on the fix right now - with ubuntuone store plugin enabled Rhythmbox can not import files or folders
[16:43] <joshuahoover> bug #644547 - fix for error when removing current computer from Devices list
[16:43] <joshuahoover> bug #645518 - fix for Nautilus plugin to notify about u1 shares being deleted
[16:43] <joshuahoover> bug #617656 - Nautilus hangs while asking for folders  - still working on tracking down the root cause...we'd really like to get this fixed for release but it's not affecting many users (that we're aware of) and it's been super tricky to troubleshoot
[16:44] <skaet> re: 617656,  ack.
[16:44] <joshuahoover> and that's it for ubuntu one...questions/concerns?
[16:44] <skaet> for the others,  statik gave a heads up about the first couple.
[16:44] <skaet> robbiew, cjwatson - any concerns from your side?
[16:45] <robbiew> heh...none from me
[16:45] <cjwatson> not really, just need to get fixes in by start of next week really
[16:45] <cjwatson> post-RC changes are always tougher
[16:45] <robbiew> +1
[16:45] <joshuahoover> cjwatson, robbiew: that's the plan
[16:45] <robbiew> joshuahoover: cool, thnx
[16:46] <skaet> cool.
[16:46] <skaet> ... moving along then.
[16:46] <skaet> [TOPIC] kubuntu team update
[16:46] <MootBot> New Topic:  kubuntu team update
[16:46] <Riddell> hi
[16:46] <skaet> hi
[16:46] <Riddell>  * Qt 4.7.0 and QtWebkit 2.0.0 released and packaged, new KPackageKit in, no more version uploads expected
[16:46] <Riddell>  * component mismatches is tidied up for Kubuntu bits
[16:46] <Riddell>  * new mesa update expected, fixing bug 633406 and others
[16:46] <Riddell>  * update to samba sharing still expected
[16:47] <Riddell>  * 15 tagged beasties http://tinyurl.com/33p7vu3, only one critical (bug 646827, ev says he's looking)
[16:48] <ScottK> The proposed mesa upload apparently clears up several kwin related issues.
[16:48] <cjwatson> Riddell: could somebody have a look at bug 459639 again, in light of Scott's recent comment?
[16:49] <Riddell> cjwatson: just browsed it quickly after you mentioned it above, will look closer after meeting
[16:49] <cjwatson> thanks
[16:49] <skaet> thanks Riddell,  ScottK.  :)   any other questions?
[16:49] <ScottK> No, just busy cherrypicking kdesvn since we won't get KDE 4.5.2 due to the early release.
[16:50] <skaet> ok then.    moving along...
[16:50] <skaet> [TOPIC] Desktop experience
[16:50] <MootBot> New Topic:  Desktop experience
[16:51]  * skaet looks around...
[16:51] <ogra> lost in a memory leak ?
[16:51] <skaet> or on another channel ;)
[16:52] <ogra> yeah :)
[16:52] <skaet> [TOPIC] user experience
[16:52] <MootBot> New Topic:  user experience
[16:53] <skaet> hmm... think we should probably move on here as well....
[16:53] <skaet> will follow up with them offline.
[16:53] <skaet> [TOPIC] ARM team update
[16:53] <MootBot> New Topic:  ARM team update
[16:53] <ogra> thats me !!
[16:53] <skaet> yay
[16:53] <skaet> :)
[16:53] <ogra> Detailed status at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARMTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
[16:53] <ogra> ...
[16:53] <ogra> Short summary:
[16:53] <ogra>  * Lots of fixes went into the omap3 and 4 images
[16:53] <ogra>  * TI PPA apturl support fully implemented (we have a neat TI icon on the desktop now and software-center is just awesome, kudos to mvo and mpt !!)
[16:53] <ogra>  * !!! NOTE for the Universe release managers: OMAP3 3D drivers are packaged and currently in review, we will likely upload to universe early next week.
[16:53] <ogra>  * Still the whole team is focused on fixing the highmem and sound issues on OMAP4 in close collaboration with the respective TI teams
[16:53] <ogra>  * The FTBFS list on qa.ubuntuwire.org/ftbfs is empty now.
[16:53] <ogra>  * There were build issues with the dove images due to antimony (our main build machine) being upgraded to lucid
[16:53] <ogra> ...
[16:54] <ogra> Status:
[16:54] <ogra> Entire http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-mobile.html
[16:54] <ogra> Release: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-mobile-ubuntu-10.10.html
[16:54] <ogra> ...
[16:54] <ogra> Two "normal" bugs still targeted for final release
[16:54] <ogra> ...
[16:54] <ogra> (piecemeal paste today :) )
[16:54] <ogra> Serious blocker bugs:
[16:54] <ogra> bug 633227
[16:54] <ogra> bug 637947
[16:54] <ogra> bug 646421
[16:54] <ogra> bug 605042
[16:54] <ogra> ...
[16:55] <ogra> the last one is being worked around by adding a new buildd to the pool temporary ...
[16:55] <ogra> the pre-last one was only found yesterday and is very serious (enabling crypted home fills up your root partition)
[16:55] <ogra> and there is more to paste :)
[16:55] <ogra> !!! Expected serious impact for final release (section did change this time :) ... leaving here as a general reminder) !!!
[16:55] <ogra> ...
[16:55] <ogra>  * We will get the final hardware date for OAMP4 was confirmed to be October 4th, it might be necessary that the OMAP4 image release gets delayed
[16:55] <ogra>  * The above will also require late kernel and bootloader package changes and uploads to the archive (linaro release management is aware (we are using their u-boot package))
[16:56] <ogra>  * TI works hard currently to get all code ready and prepared already where it can be done without new silicon
[16:56] <ogra>  * We are trying to get it in by hard freeze (oct 6th), if that does not work for some reason (silicon or code bugs) we will resort to doing SRUs for the above mentioned packages.
[16:56] <ogra>  * In case the release for OAMP4 wont be on time we will roll a delayed image as 10.10.1 for OMAP4 specifically based on the SRU packages.
[16:56] <ogra> ...
[16:56] <ogra> On an additional matter, we are looking for help with bug 635840. It affects a good bunch of packages in universe and by the looks of it david will not get it fixed alone in time (worst case we would have to SRU all rdeps but would like to avoid that)
[16:56] <ogra> pfft ...
[16:56] <ogra> bug 635840
[16:56] <ogra> thats all i had to paste :)
[16:57] <skaet> thanks ogra!  :)   fun times ahead for OMAP4... :/
[16:57] <ogra> yeah :/
[16:57] <ogra> (and we were planning to have a 10.07 lucid release for it ... muhahaha)
[16:57] <skaet> any questions (or volunteering of help for 635840)?
[16:58]  * skaet has heard about 10.07.... 
[16:58] <ogra> yeah, it will likely become 10.10.1
[16:59] <ogra> version numbers are so cheap :P
[16:59] <skaet> heh
[16:59] <skaet> moving along...
[16:59] <skaet> [TOPIC] MOTU update
[16:59] <MootBot> New Topic:  MOTU update
[17:00]  * skaet looks for ScottK ?
[17:00] <ScottK> Hello
[17:00] <skaet> hi
[17:01] <skaet> :)
[17:01] <ScottK> Made some good progress on FTBFS and NBS in the last week, but much more to do.
[17:01] <iulian> Indeed, just wanted to say that the number of packages that fail to build from source in the universe component has dropped down to 100 from 268 in just two weeks and the NBS list has obviously been shortened as well.
[17:01] <ScottK> We got the Universe/Multiverse delegations and final freeze schedules out.
[17:01] <skaet> yay
[17:01] <ogra> wow
[17:01] <iulian> (Thanks to all who have helped to cut down these lists.)
[17:02] <ScottK> iulian: There was a mass giveback yesterday, so once it finishes retries, the final number will be higher.
[17:02] <ScottK> (but it's still gotten significantly smaller)
[17:02] <iulian> ScottK: Excellent.
[17:02] <ScottK> I'd like to check and make sure everyone is OK with adjusting the delegations as I proposed here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2010-September/000119.html
[17:03] <ScottK> That's all.
[17:03] <iulian> I've already ack'd it so I'm out.
[17:03] <skaet> Thanks ScottK.:)
[17:03] <cjwatson> sugar> I'm fine with that
[17:03]  * ogra likes to point to the "NOTE for the Universe release managers" line above again for more awareness
[17:04] <skaet> Link to the Release process update is: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseProcess   figured the delegations should have been done about release -28 days.   ok?
[17:05] <skaet> Also wasn't sure that the final freeze date for universe/multiverse was typical this time around, so wanted to get input there too.
[17:05] <ScottK> skaet: Delegations should have been done before Feature Freeze.
[17:06] <skaet> ScottK, ok,  will adjust.   Thanks.
[17:07] <ScottK> We are still looking for the sweet spot on final freeze for unseeded packages.
[17:07] <ScottK> We can update based on how this goes.
[17:07] <skaet> fair 'nuf
[17:07] <iulian> ScottK: Ah, bleah.  Didn't know about the mass giveback.
[17:07] <ScottK> iulian: Yeah.  It's still better, just not as much better as it looks right now.
[17:08] <iulian> :-(
[17:08] <skaet> any other questions?
[17:08] <ScottK> I'm going to consider the Sugar delegation approved.
[17:09] <skaet> ok.
[17:09] <skaet> will move on...
[17:09] <skaet> [TOPIC] Linaro team update
[17:09] <MootBot> New Topic:  Linaro team update
[17:10]  * skaet looks for JamieBennett ?
[17:11] <skaet> hmm... some nice active other channels today I guess ;)
[17:12] <skaet> [TOPIC] open floor - any issues to raise?
[17:12] <MootBot> New Topic:  open floor - any issues to raise?
[17:13]  * skaet looking around for a wave?
[17:13] <davidbarth> skaet: maybe https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/MaverickReleaseStatus for you information (sorry was on a call and I missed the time)
[17:13] <ScottK> When do we want to start to spin candidate RC images (i.e. stop processing uploads)?
[17:13] <ScottK> Tuesday AM?
[17:13] <Riddell> sladen: any news on the font?
[17:13] <skaet> davidbarth, thanks.
[17:14] <skaet> robbiew, ^^ question from ScottK
[17:15] <robbiew> ScottK: ack
[17:15] <robbiew> Tuesday AM
[17:15] <cjwatson> it'll be a busy weekend
[17:15] <cjwatson> *sigh*
[17:15] <skaet> Riddell, sladen wasn't able to make meeting.
[17:16] <skaet> any other questions?
[17:16] <ScottK> We could do it robbiew style and just spin ISOs on Thursday.
[17:16] <Riddell> who is actually taking charge of spinning ISOs?
[17:17] <robbiew> ScottK: heh
[17:17] <robbiew> Riddell: yeah....I need to figure that out
[17:17] <robbiew> Riddell: volunteering?
[17:17] <robbiew> :D
[17:17] <Riddell> could do
[17:19] <skaet> heh.  looks like robbiew has his volunteer ;)
[17:19] <robbiew> sweet!
[17:19] <skaet> robbiew,  will you send a note around communicating the plan and dates for the RC images?
[17:19] <robbiew> yep
[17:20] <skaet> great.  Thanks.
[17:20] <skaet> ... ok,  since am not seeing any new waves,  probably time to end the meeting.
[17:20] <skaet> thanks again for the great progress on the bugs this week.  :D
[17:20] <skaet> #endmeeting
[17:20] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 11:20.
[17:24] <skaet> thanks marjo, ogasawara, cjwatson, robbiew, ScottK, ogra, ttx, Riddell, iulian, joshuahoover, didrocks, doko for good input  :)
[17:24] <marjo_> skaet: thx!
[17:24] <ogra> thanks :)
[17:24] <joshuahoover> thank you skaet!
[17:24] <robbiew> skaet: no...THANK YOU! :)
[17:24] <ogasawara> skaet: thanks!
[17:24] <didrocks> thanks everyone :)
[17:25] <skaet> :)