| ScottK | I think it's great if people use REVU for stuff aimed at Debian. | 00:00 |
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| ajmitch | lfaraone: what do you mean by automatically marked? they appear in one huge list on the front page which has packages dating back 18+ months | 00:00 |
| sladen | ScottK: yes, precisely, this is FartApp, MooCow, UDS-NCalendarApp, SABDFLBuzzwordBingo etc | 00:00 |
| ajmitch | ScottK: I think using REVU for debian is fine if they were clearly marked as such | 00:00 |
| lfaraone | ajmitch: well, in m.d.n there's a "mark this package as looking for sponsorship" | 00:00 |
| ScottK | Agreed. | 00:00 |
| ajmitch | currently there's no way of saying that a package is being considered for debian first instead of ubuntu | 00:01 |
| ScottK | ajmitch: I've seen people leave a comment to that effect. | 00:01 |
| ajmitch | there's also the problem of new upstream versions on REVU, since it's not really a fast-moving process by any means | 00:01 |
| ajmitch | ScottK: right, I want a separate section on REVU for these | 00:02 |
| ajmitch | which means that I should just add it :) | 00:02 |
| directhex | m.d.n does an awful job of connecting packagers to *relevant* sponsors. it doesn't matter so much in ubuntu w/ weak package ownership, but in debian, you need a sponsor who is relevant to your package - that sponsor may not be on m.d.n | 00:02 |
| ScottK | the current 'official' process doesn't use REVU for new upstream versions, IIRC. | 00:02 |
| ajmitch | directhex: it's more a convenient file hosting location | 00:03 |
| ajmitch | sponsors should be sought separately from just uploading to m.d.n | 00:03 |
| ajmitch | whereas with REVU it's meant to be mostly self-contained | 00:03 |
| lfaraone | ajmitch: well, I've picked packages from the "needs sponsorship" list on m.d.n list before and uploaded them if they're error-free. | 00:03 |
| ScottK | Shortly after I became a DD, I trolled through m.d.n looking for stuff to sponsor. Didn't come up with much and didn't go back. | 00:04 |
| ajmitch | lfaraone: right, it's not the common workflow from my experience, though I'm doing vague hand-waving on who does what | 00:04 |
| ajmitch | darn, jono fled | 00:04 |
| ajmitch | ScottK: so I expect you'll take our concerns & feedback to UDS with you? | 00:05 |
| lfaraone | ajmitch: that's probably realistic, most DDs don't sponsor at all ::) | 00:05 |
| ScottK | Sure. I'll yell about that and everything else that's pissing me off. | 00:05 |
| ajmitch | we'd expect no less | 00:05 |
| ScottK | Any suggestions on a easy way to find out what thing recently ate several hundred megabytes of hard drive space? | 00:07 |
| ajmitch | nothing obvious beyond du | 00:08 |
| ajmitch | or baobab is a useful gnome tool that displays a graphical layout of disk usage, I'm sure there'll be a kde util for the same | 00:09 |
| * ajmitch hopes 512MB RAM in a VM is enough to run REVU | 00:12 | |
| achiang | ScottK: i wrote a stupid script to sort the output of du -h into human readable form: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/499368/ | 00:13 |
| ScottK | achiang: Thanks. | 00:13 |
| achiang | sure | 00:14 |
| wgrant | ajmitch: REVU isn't LP. | 00:35 |
| wgrant | So 512MB should be fine. | 00:35 |
| wgrant | What're you doing to it? | 00:36 |
| ajmitch | wgrant: I know, the only spare VM I had for it had a gnome desktop installed, so it's better to grab a new server iso | 00:36 |
| ajmitch | playing around with separating out packages that are intended for debian, since people want to use it for that, and seeing if I can come up with a sane way of looking at branches on there | 00:37 |
| ajmitch | plus whatever else annoys me at the time | 00:38 |
| wgrant | Aha. | 00:38 |
| ajmitch | wgrant: do you think you've got time to setup a new vm on stratos so we can play with having REVU on there? | 00:39 |
| ajmitch | or is there documentation on the right way to do it on that host? | 00:39 |
| wgrant | I can set up a new one, sure. | 00:39 |
| ajmitch | thanks | 00:40 |
| ajmitch | it may just make things a bit easier in future if we can be on lucid or more recent distros | 00:40 |
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| iulian | ScottL: Ta. | 10:12 |
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| blueyed | Do need bugfix-only things ubuntu-release ACK for universe? (I've just used requestsync). I guess so?! re: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/boinc/+bug/646932 | 17:33 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 646932 in boinc (Ubuntu) "Sync boinc 6.10.58+dfsg-3 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 17:33 |
| blueyed | Apparently it's ok like it is according to "For packages in universe that aren't seeded in any of the Ubuntu flavors, this final freeze is nominal; packages must be manually accepted by the archive admins, but no additional approval is required. " (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FinalFreeze) | 17:41 |
| ScottK | Yep. | 17:50 |
| ScottK | Just make sure ubuntu-archive is subscribed and not just the release team. | 17:50 |
| philsf | hi, I'm reading on quickly, and noticed the default template is for python. Is there a template for perl modules? | 18:23 |
| lucidfox | The *default* template? So there are templates for languages other than Python? | 18:24 |
| ScottK | I know someone is working on a vala template, but that's it AFAIK. | 18:26 |
| lucidfox | :O | 18:27 |
| lucidfox | Vala template? Awesome | 18:27 |
| lucidfox | I just hope they don't use autotools :( | 18:27 |
| ScottK | It was mentioned on p.u.c recently. | 18:31 |
| lucidfox | Linky? | 18:32 |
| lucidfox | I seem to have somehow missed it, even though I have Planet on RSS | 18:32 |
| lucidfox | oh | 18:33 |
| lucidfox | found it | 18:33 |
| lucidfox | by Shane Fegan | 18:33 |
| lucidfox | * Fagan | 18:33 |
| lucidfox | BuildJ, hmmm | 18:33 |
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| philsf | lucidfox, I'm not even sure there are other templates in quickly | 19:12 |
| sistpoty | bdrung_: are you taking care for the rebuilds in bug #645339? want me to start uploading a few? | 19:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 645339 in webfav (Ubuntu) "Drop transitional and removed packages from Recommends" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/645339 | 19:52 |
| kklimonda | lucidfox: autotools is still a better option then few others | 22:09 |
| kklimonda | on the other hand Shotwell has a really nice, hand-written Makefile | 22:09 |
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