[03:01] <lfaraone> chrisccoulson: you said earlier I can't call Sugar's Firefox.activity Firefox. If I depend on abrowser-branding, though, it'll prevent the browser used outside of sugar from being called Firefox. Can I just use the  abrowser branding inside sugar and not at current?
[03:01] <lfaraone> *not elsewhere?
[03:01] <lfaraone> (Mozilla has not been repsonsive for my request for a trademark clarification, and I'm not sure who else to ask)
[09:04] <fta2> doh!
[09:04] <fta2> 2010-09-24 linux/stable (6.0.472.62 -> 6.0.472.63)
[09:04] <fta2> 2010-09-24 linux/beta (6.0.472.62 -> 6.0.472.63)
[09:04] <fta2> 2010-09-24 linux/dev (7.0.517.8 -> 7.0.517.13)
[09:04] <fta2> lots of merging to do :P
[10:18] <chrisccoulson> hi lfaraone. sorry, could you mail me the exact details of what you want to do (i was asleep when you messaged me)
[12:17] <bdrung_> chrisccoulson: after the ubufox update: when visiting about:home, i get this error message: The requested URL /10.10/Debian PTS/ was not found on this server.
[12:20] <bdrung_> chrisccoulson: about:home seems to be bundled to the search plugin (selecting google as search plugin works)
[14:01] <chrisccoulson> bdrung_, yeah, that's intentional - we select a URL based on the current search plugin
[14:01] <chrisccoulson> and has always been like that
[14:02] <chrisccoulson> i suspect the server needs a redirect
[14:02] <chrisccoulson> bdrung_, ok, i will ping OLS about that
[14:08] <chrisccoulson> bdrung_, ok, that's going to be fixed on the server
[14:08] <chrisccoulson> sorry about that
[14:49] <cyphermox> chrisccoulson (or anybody else if you know), was there a reason why the cairo included in seamonkey can't be used? Looking at the same bug on openSUSE they may have been able to fix the RenderBadPicture issue that way --- I will test anyway
[14:52] <chrisccoulson> cyphermox, i don't there is anything that would stop us switching to in-tree cairo
[14:52] <cyphermox> right
[14:52] <cyphermox> chrisccoulson, know when micahg usually shows up?
[14:53] <chrisccoulson> he's not back online until tomorrow i think
[14:53] <cyphermox> ok. well anyway, I see the change he had done wasn't really relevant to a bug or not (looking through the commits changing debian/rules for the cairo ver)
[14:54] <chrisccoulson> oh, did he work on it already?
[14:57] <cyphermox> chrisccoulson, nah, it was a commit from april
[14:58] <cyphermox> he *is* assigned to the bug though, so I'll change that
[15:01] <chrisccoulson> i'll owe you a beer if you can figure this one out :-)
[15:01] <chrisccoulson> have you used xtrace before?
[15:02] <cyphermox> nope
[15:03] <chrisccoulson> ah, xtrace is useful for debugging issues like this
[15:03] <cyphermox> oh, looks like this might fix it for maverick, but maybe not for lucid... will have to look harder
[15:03] <chrisccoulson> eg, i used it last week for tracking down gnome bug 630163
[15:03] <ubot2> Gnome bug 630163 in general "gnome-terminal crashed with signal 5 in _XError() when Mutter is restarted" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=630163
[15:03] <cyphermox> cool
[15:04] <chrisccoulson> it's quite a handy tool
[15:04] <cyphermox> thx for the pointer. do you have a link to documentation?
[15:05] <chrisccoulson> i'm not sure there's much documentation. it's just a case of running it like "xtrace -d :0 -D :9", and then running the application you want to debug with "DISPLAY=:9.0"
[15:05] <chrisccoulson> it basically creates a fake x server, which just proxies all the protocol calls to the real server
[15:05] <cyphermox> ok
[15:06] <cyphermox> well yeah otoh, I should have thought of it, it's just tracing calls :)
[15:06] <cyphermox> I'll give it a shot once seamonkey has done compiling here
[15:06] <chrisccoulson> the good thing is that you get a lot of historical data that is difficult to get in GDB
[15:07] <cyphermox> nothing like hysterical data :)
[15:07] <chrisccoulson> lol :)
[15:25] <cyphermox> chrisccoulson, did you try reproducing the issue in bug 575160?
[15:25] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 575160 in seamonkey (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 2 other projects) "seamonkey 2.0 crashes with 'RenderBadPicture' diagnostics (affects: 19) (dups: 4) (heat: 125)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/575160
[15:25] <chrisccoulson> cyphermox, yeah, but i could never make it crash
[15:25] <chrisccoulson> did you get it to crash yet?
[15:25] <cyphermox> ah, drat
[15:25] <cyphermox> yup
[15:25] <cyphermox> I was able to make it crash everytime on google image search :)
[15:26] <chrisccoulson> oh, cool!
[16:58] <cyphermox> chrisccoulson, could you take a look at https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/seamonkey/lp575160/+merge/36555 ?
[16:58] <chrisccoulson> cyphermox, sure, will take a look in a bit
[16:59] <cyphermox> sure, no rush ;)
[17:17] <chrisccoulson> cyphermox, i'm not sure how busy you are, but i just noticed that the firefox 3.6 daily builds are failing on hardy
[17:18] <chrisccoulson> https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa/+packages
[17:18] <chrisccoulson> i've not looked at why just yet
[17:18] <chrisccoulson> but those are fairly important, as we support 3.6 on hardy, and that might indicate we'll have an issue with the next security update
[17:54] <lfaraone> chrisccoulson: mailed.
[17:54] <chrisccoulson> lfaraone, thanks
[17:54] <lfaraone> chrisccoulson: it's more of a logistical / political issue than a technical I think.
[18:06] <cyphermox> chrisccoulson, yeah I can look at it, sure
[18:39] <chrisccoulson> w00t, lightning is in the archive again \o/
[18:47] <cyphermox> sweet!
[18:54] <cyphermox> i think the wiki pages for the team needs an update, at least as a pointer, e.g. that you need mercurial, bzr, etc. to be installed to be able to do stuff with the branches.
[20:38] <chrisccoulson> fta - huh? https://edge.launchpad.net/~towolf/+archive/crack/+build/1973089
[20:38] <fta> chrisccoulson, i know :( iirc, he's adding a patch
[20:39] <chrisccoulson> fta - ah, ok. what does the patch do?
[20:42] <fta> debian/patches/a_few_customized_shortcuts.patch
[20:45] <fta> chrisccoulson, http://paste.ubuntu.com/499917/
[20:48] <fta> not something we want, it's more a matter of personal choices
[20:50] <fta> bug 646991
[20:50] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 646991 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "chromium-browser segfaults after install of moonlight-plugin-chromium (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/646991
[20:51] <fta> didn't even know there was a specific moonlight plugin for chromium
[20:51] <chrisccoulson> fta - that plugin also makes firefox crash
[20:52] <fta> could you please comment in that bug?
[20:54] <chrisccoulson> fta - i've reassigned
[20:54] <chrisccoulson> the firefox crash is weird. it actually crashes in the openjdk plugin when moonlight is installed
[20:54] <chrisccoulson> but it crashes in getenv, so i suspect the moonlight plugin has some memory errors
[21:01] <BUGabundo> fta chromium is botked
[21:01] <BUGabundo> 0x00007ffff1141b2d in write () at ../sysdeps/unix/syscall-template.S:82
[21:01] <fta> not much of a usable trace
[21:03] <BUGabundo> installing gdb packages now
[21:03] <BUGabundo> 26% [1 chromium-browser-dbg 32889557/123MB 26%]                                                                                               371kB/s 4min 2s
[21:03] <BUGabundo> it takes a while
[21:08] <fta> with the last update, all my favicons are gone
[21:12] <BUGabundo> fta http://paste.ubuntu.com/499936/
[21:24] <fta> doing what?
[21:26] <BUGabundo> noting special at all
[21:27] <BUGabundo> just browsing the usual sites
[21:41] <fta> BUGabundo, not known upstream, could you please file a bug?
[21:41] <fta> upgrading my netbook...
[21:41] <fta> 602 upgraded, 15 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[21:41] <fta> Need to get 898MB of archives.
[21:42] <BUGabundo> ehe
[21:44] <BUGabundo> fta http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=56852
[21:48] <fta> you filed 2 ?
[21:49] <BUGabundo> fta no. one and its know http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=56851
[21:49] <BUGabundo> erk
[21:49] <BUGabundo> its mine
[21:49] <BUGabundo> wtf
[21:50] <BUGabundo> google messed up
[22:25] <fta> lol, http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2010/09/bill-gates-staring-back-at-you-from-outlook-2010.ars