[04:05] <persia> !extras is extras.ubuntu.com is an additional !repo that contains new software made available after the formal release.  This software is unsupported by the Ubuntu team, but the original authors offer some support.
[04:06]  * persia goes off to have a heart-to-heart with ubottu about that response
[04:20] <elky> !extras is extras.ubuntu.com is an additional !repo that contains new software made available after the formal release.  This software is unsupported by the Ubuntu team, but the original authors offer some support.
[04:20] <elky> !no extras is extras.ubuntu.com is an additional !repo that contains new software made available after the formal release.  This software is unsupported by the Ubuntu team, but the original authors offer some support.
[04:20] <elky> !no extras is <reply>extras.ubuntu.com is an additional !repo that contains new software made available after the formal release.  This software is unsupported by the Ubuntu team, but the original authors offer some support.
[04:20] <elky> !extras
[04:20] <elky> persia, ^
[04:21] <persia> !no extras is <reply> extras.ubuntu.com is an external repository for new software made available after the Ubuntu release.  This repository is not part of the Ubuntu distribution and the software is completely unsupported by the Ubuntu team, but the original authors may offer some support.
[04:21] <persia> @login
[04:21]  * persia !#%&
[04:22] <persia> elky, Thanks, although as noted above, part of my delay was sorting the text, rather than just the syntax.  Didn't seem to do any good though :(
[04:25] <persia> Ugh, and the new text misses !repo :(
[04:25] <persia> !no extras is <reply> extras.ubuntu.com is an external !repo for new software made available after the Ubuntu release.  This repository is not part of the Ubuntu distribution and the software is completely unsupported by the Ubuntu team, but the original authors may offer some support.
[04:25]  * persia leaves the factoid alone now
[04:32] <elky> persia, you're satisfied with your latest recommendation?
[04:33] <elky> !no extras is <reply> extras.ubuntu.com is an external !repo for new software made available after the Ubuntu release.  This repository is not part of the Ubuntu distribution and the software is completely unsupported by the Ubuntu team, but the original authors may offer some support.
[04:33]  * elky does it anyway
[04:41] <persia> I'm satisfied.  I don't have approval, but it's lots better than the previous one.
[04:41] <persia> Thanks for the commit.
[04:42] <persia> You don't happen to know what I ought do to fix my @login issue, do you?
[05:03] <Tm_T> persia: I believe tsimpson and jussi are the ones to talk to
[05:03] <persia> Tm_T, Thanks.
[05:09] <persia> Oh, and just for sake of completeness, I did get approval for that final text from a member of the ~a-r-b
[05:16] <Tm_T> ?
[05:17] <persia> Regarding the factoid change above: when it was changed I still didn't have approval from the group responsible for administering extras.ubuntu.com.
[05:17] <persia> Having received approval, I wanted to share, in case any issues were raised in dispute, etc.
[05:17] <Tm_T> aaah
[05:18] <Tm_T> good
[05:18]  * persia likes to be careful, and prefers consensus or at least avoidance of disagreement except when there are substantive issues to discuss
[05:19] <elky> Geekdoms and fiefdoms and all that.
[05:20] <persia> Right.
[06:12] <bazhang> Qwert, how may we help you
[06:35] <Qwert> Hello
[06:36] <bazhang> hi
[06:36] <Qwert> Is it advisable to guide about keylogger installation?
[06:36] <Qwert> http://sourceforge.net/projects/lkl/files/
[06:39] <Qwert> bazhang?
[06:47] <Qwert> Pici?
[06:53] <Tm_T> Qwert: what exactly you're suggesting?
[06:54] <Qwert> Tm_T: Well, its about keylogger.. is it advisable to guide about its installation?
[06:55] <Tm_T> in ubuntu channels? IMHO no
[06:57] <Qwert> Tm_T: Yes.
[06:57] <Qwert> Tm_T: Thanks
[06:57] <Tm_T> Qwert: I think this discussion is more suitable for -irc anyway
[06:58] <Tm_T> ldunn: hi, how can we help you?
[11:57] <jpds> Righto.
[12:52] <bazhang> d3v0, hi
[12:53] <d3v0> hello
[12:54] <d3v0> why did i get taken here =/
[12:54] <d3v0> i'm banned from #ubuntu =/
[12:54] <bazhang> d3v0, ban forwarded from #ubuntu
[12:55] <d3v0> what for exactly?
[12:57] <d3v0> =/
[12:57] <d3v0> someone mind explaining?
[12:59] <bazhang> I'd guess its your quit message
[12:59] <d3v0> hahaha
[12:59] <d3v0> my bad
[12:59] <bazhang> though if I am off jrib can enlighten
[12:59] <ikonia> I don't find that funny
[13:00] <d3v0> i thought it was brb house on fire
[13:01] <d3v0> its changed now though, didnt realise it was an offence
[13:01] <d3v0> well, offensive maybe
[13:01] <d3v0> actually, definitely, i apologise
[13:05] <d3v0> so is this ban permanent or what?
[13:07] <ikonia> no, as long as you can make sure you keep your language, including part message polite and not offensive I'm happy to remove the ban
[13:07] <d3v0> no problemo
[13:07] <ikonia> ok
[13:08] <ikonia> there you go, the ban has been removed, you're welcome to leave this channel and join #ubuntu
[13:08] <d3v0> cheers
[13:10] <bazhang> d3v0, please part here, thanks
[13:10] <d3v0> (Y)
[13:11] <Pici> Anything in the scrollback I should take a look at?
[13:11] <ikonia> !fuck-#ubuntu-offtopic
[13:11] <bazhang> that kuroi fellow seems to be an issue network wide
[13:11] <Pici> ikonia: we don't have any factoids like that.
[13:12] <ikonia> I know
[13:12] <bazhang> thankfully
[13:12] <ikonia> rockhopper is claiming it does in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:12] <bazhang> kuroi being rockhopper
[13:12] <ikonia> is he known ?
[13:12] <bazhang> ie well known troll
[13:12] <bazhang> yep
[13:13] <ikonia> ahhh right
[13:15] <ikonia> bazhang: rockhopper or kurio don't appear in BT
[13:16] <bazhang> ikonia, first we've seen of him, to my knowledge; I mentioned network wide (ie seen his exploits in other channels)
[13:16] <bazhang> its kuroi btw
[13:22] <ikonia> ah
[19:02] <LjL> why does !br mention "ajuda em brasileiro", which i can only imagine is some new language, instead of "em português" like i'm sure it used to?
[19:02] <LjL> actually, i mean !pt
[19:07] <Pici> LjL: Looks like someone suggested it and we obliged.
[19:08] <LjL> well i don't think it's a good idea :|
[19:09] <Pici> What is 'brasileiro'?
[19:09] <Amaranth> Google thinks it says help in Brazil (or Brazilian) and it appears in search results as an actual phrase
[19:10] <Pici> Do we need separate !br and !pt factoids anyway?
[19:10] <Pici> !br
[19:10] <Pici> !pt
[19:11] <Amaranth> Isn't the !br one for the LoCo?
[19:12] <LjL> i can only imagine "brasileiro" is probably a colloquial term for the form of portuguese spoken in brasil
[19:12] <Amaranth> I think that would make sense with the phrase anyway
[19:12] <Pici> !pt =~ s/brasileiro/português/
[19:12] <LjL> but it's much like saying "In #ubuntu, we only use American"
[19:12] <Amaranth> LjL: Well, if #ubuntu-br is the loco channel it would make sense
[19:12] <Pici> Any objections to aliasing !br to use !pt ?
[19:12] <Amaranth> But I have no idea if that is the case
[19:13] <LjL> no
[19:13] <LjL> last i checked, -br was the general help channel
[19:13] <LjL> while -pt preferred to remain a loco channel only
[19:13] <Amaranth> Although in #ubuntu we do only use American ;)
[19:13] <Amaranth> LjL: That seems... backwards
[19:14] <Pici> oops, wrong channel, but whatever.
[19:14] <Pici> !br
[19:14] <Pici> oh dear
[19:14] <Amaranth> Neat, broken UTF-8
[19:14] <Amaranth> Does sed support utf-8? Or anything outside ascii?
[19:14] <Pici> no br is <reply> Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.
[19:14] <Pici> !no br is <reply> Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.
[19:14] <Pici> !br
[19:15] <Amaranth> There we go
[19:15] <Pici> argh
[19:15] <Pici> wrong one
[19:15] <Pici> !no pt is <reply> Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.
[19:15] <Pici> !no br is <alias> pt
[19:15] <Pici> Thats better.
[20:09] <Flannel> Pici: br is for the LoCo, pt is for the language
[20:11] <IdleOne> I think the people in pt would disagree
[20:11] <Pici> Flannel: Thats not what the factoid has says.
[20:11] <Pici> er, said.
[20:11] <Pici> "Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado."
[20:11] <Flannel> It might have been changed, I don't know.  But at one point, that's what the division was.
[20:11] <IdleOne> they are having issues in -pt getting channel management access from the br loco leader
[20:11] <Flannel> Would probably be prudent to check with the channels
[20:12] <IdleOne> unless they resolved that this past week or so
[20:12] <Pici> The factoid was changed to say 'brasileiro' is late August.~
[20:22] <LjL> uhmm i guess they've had issues
[20:22] <LjL> because now, the -br topic says "technical support channel in Brazilian Portuguese"
[20:22] <LjL> while -pt doesn't mention technical support, it just tells you to head to -br for the "pt_BR community"
[20:23] <LjL> in other words, there are idiots in charge again
[20:23] <Flannel> sounds like there's some miscommunication or confusion in that relationship
[20:23] <LjL> welcome to -es^2
[20:23] <LjL> i think at least whoever submitted the factoid change should be LARTed.
[20:24] <LjL> "em brasilero", meh
[20:24] <LjL> i'll leave before i say further inappropriate things
[20:25] <IdleOne> who was that masked LjL!
[20:45] <Pici> IdleOne: What was he pm-ing you about?
[20:45] <IdleOne> not sure yet
[20:45] <IdleOne> all he said was hi
[20:46] <IdleOne> probably something about spoofing ops, which I told him never to do again or I would ban until the day I die and then have my kids enforce the ban after that
[20:46] <Pici> He keeps asking for support from me in PM.  The other day he was asking about something that I didn't know anything about and kept rehrasing the question slightly differently.
[20:47] <IdleOne> He hasn't done that with me, yet
[20:47] <IdleOne> heh you jinxed me dude
[20:48] <IdleOne> support question about mirrors in .in
[20:50] <Pici> That guy didn't even say anything.
[20:51] <IdleOne> the guy who /ignored #ubuntu?
[20:51] <Pici> Yeah.
[20:51] <IdleOne> self bans are awesome
[20:51] <IdleOne> be happy he left without being pushed
 Are there problems from users from India on IRC ?
 including me..
 except for your client joining #ubuntu-ops all the time. none that I know of
[20:52] <Pici> heh.
[20:52] <IdleOne> :)
[20:54] <IdleOne> I so want to buy a motorcycle :/
[20:54] <IdleOne> unrelated to anything in this channel but I still want one
[20:58] <guntbert> please have a look at deryl in #ubuntu - talks a lot off topic stuff and when asked to keep to the topic he becomes insulting
[20:59] <IdleOne> will keep an eye open guntbert, thanks
[21:00] <guntbert> thx
[21:00] <Pici> qwert says that he got his client fixed.
[21:00] <Pici> So he shouldn't be accidentally auto-joining here.
[21:01] <Pici> And I'm out for a bit.  Later.
[21:04] <IdleOne> Have a good one
[23:04] <jrib> leaving but windowshasyou in #ubuntu had an interesting first comment