[00:12] <ruben23> hi guys..
[00:13] <ruben23> anyone have idea how to run wireshark on commandline..?
[00:16] <theyranos> ruben23:  sudo apt-get install tshark
[00:17] <Four2zero> has the file permissions changed in 10.10, cuz when i want to take ownership of the directorys on ext device with command " chown -R user:user /srv/storage/ ''
[00:18] <Four2zero> it still shows root as owner.
[00:19] <Four2zero> I have set fstab as so: '' /dev/sdb1 /srv/storage auto auto,user,uid=1000,gid=1000 ntfs 0 2 ''
[00:21] <ruben23> theyranos: yes  but how to run and start capturing packets..?
[00:23] <Four2zero> easy, follow the guide or tutorial who's ever network your trying to hack !!!
[00:23] <Four2zero> google
[00:24] <Four2zero> hacking other peoples network for free internet is against the law, illegal in the U.S.A !
[00:24] <theyranos> ruben23: sudo tshark -w filename will load filename with something in pcap format. man tshark for more information.
[00:24] <ScottK> Four2zero: There are plenty of legitimate reasons to run wireshark.  No need to make negative assumptions.
[00:29] <Four2zero> ScottK im not assuming, im letting them be aware of it.
[00:29] <coafcv> hey. what do I have to install to make the PHP postgresql functions available?
[00:29] <coafcv> PHP says it cannot find pg_connect.
[00:30] <theyranos> coafcv: php5-pgsql   (apt-cache search postgre | grep php)
[00:31] <coafcv> theyranos: thanks for the explanation of what you did, this helps. I entered php- and hit tab, no wonder I haven't found anything.
[00:32] <ScottK> OK
[00:32] <coafcv> theyranos: and it worked, thanks
[01:19] <Scunizi> How do I change the domain/workgroup name of the computer?
[01:22] <Scunizi> Is this done only in the smb.conf file or is there another file I can do that with?
[01:25] <wdarosh> Ubuntu Server 10.04 is no longe booting-  Unit is reporting that it is unable to find /dev/root /sys/root and then crashes out unable to load.  System has been booted via Live CD and unit is showing access to SDA5.  SDA1 is showing up as LVM2 Format and is inaccessable.  Is there a way to get the unit to boot?
[01:32] <pudgypaw> ppl online?
[01:33] <wdarosh> Is there a chance of data recovery if I were to convert the LVM2 Partition into ext3?
[01:34] <pudgypaw> isn't it currently ext4?
[01:36] <wdarosh> currently the /dev/sda1 is listed as Linux LVM in fdisk
[01:36] <pudgypaw> i wouldn't know, i just got into the room but everyone seems unresponsive
[01:37] <pudgypaw> anyone else home?
[01:38] <coafcv> yes, but I'm without any clue either.
[01:38] <coafcv> I'm just listening to what other people say...
[01:38] <wdarosh> Thanks anyway
[01:39] <coafcv> next time, stay a little longer.
[01:40] <pudgypaw> lol
[01:40] <pudgypaw> ok i did come in with a question of my own
[01:41] <pudgypaw> but it's about EC2 cloud computing, dunno if anyone in the house knows about the AMI ami-12f3a257
[02:04] <pudgypaw> EC2 cloud computing, dunno if anyone in the house knows about the AMI ami-12f3a257
[02:05] <fakhir> hello I am wondering why Disk Swap is being used when over 50% of my RAM is being used for cache.
[02:08] <MTecknology> So.. I'm trying to run dpkg-reconfigure locales ... but it hates me :S
[02:09] <MTecknology> I'm getting this - http://dpaste.com/248164/
[02:10] <pudgypaw> looks like "no locale or directory"
[02:11] <pudgypaw> wonder if u make a dummy directory they'll complain about something else XD
[02:11] <MTecknology> what directory is it looking for?
[02:27] <four2zero> hey guys is there a fix for "vino" for 10.10 ?
[02:27] <four2zero> or can i just sudo apt-get remove vino
[02:27] <MTecknology> Can I get php5-5.3.3 for Ubuntu 10.04? I'm trying to find a PPA for it..
[02:28] <four2zero> MTecknology: go to howto forge
[02:28] <four2zero> the perfect server setup for ubuntu 10.04
[02:28] <MTecknology> four2zero: you mean this? http://www.howtoforge.com/installing-php-5.3-nginx-and-php-fpm-on-ubuntu-debian
[02:28] <four2zero> it will show you how to install php
[02:28] <four2zero> yes.
[02:29] <MTecknology> I've found a world of breakage in howtoforge and I tend to not follow then anymore..
[02:30] <four2zero> http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-set-up-apache2-with-mod_fcgid-and-php5-on-ubuntu-10.04
[02:30] <four2zero> will show you how to properly install php 5.3
[02:31] <MTecknology> that looks directed for apache
[02:31] <four2zero> okay i have another link
[02:34] <four2zero> MTecknology: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/php5.html
[02:34] <four2zero> that will help you
[02:36] <MTecknology> that doesn't discuss 5.3.3 :P
[02:36] <four2zero> good luck
[02:36] <MTecknology> I'll try to wade cautiously through howtoforge
[02:36] <four2zero> php5 is 5.3.3
[02:37] <four2zero> all you need : sudo apt-get install php5 libapache2-mod-php5
[02:37] <four2zero> minus the libapache2
[02:37] <four2zero> if your not running apache2
[02:37] <MTecknology> I need 5.3.3 specifically
[02:38] <MTecknology> !info php5
[02:40] <four2zero> MTecknology: apt-get install -t experimental php5
[02:40] <pudgypaw> !info php5
[02:41] <four2zero> or go to #php
[02:41] <pudgypaw> Here's my current issue w/ php
[02:41] <pudgypaw> server 10.04 LAMP stack works great on virtual host
[02:41] <MTecknology> four2zero: does that pull from 11.04?
[02:41] <pudgypaw> but i tried EC2 micro instance and php throws me a WSOD
[02:42] <meh2> hey guys, i installed webmin on a VPS to test it, it supports https, but when i go to https://myvps.com it tells me the certifacte is broken and its untrusted website.. any ideas how to fix this?
[02:42] <pudgypaw> currently trying to debug but i jsut might hitup a diff image
[02:42] <MTecknology> four2zero: oh......
[02:42] <MTecknology> four2zero: spiffy
[02:42] <four2zero> MTecknology: did it work ?
[02:43] <MTecknology> four2zero: I started going the howtoforge route.. I like what you said a lot better....
[02:43] <MTecknology> four2zero: how hard would it be to purge everything installed from dotdeb and the .debs ?
[02:43] <four2zero> okay.
[02:44] <four2zero> not hard at all just sudo apt-get purge <package>
[02:45] <MTecknology> then rm the line from sources.list, apt-get update, and anythign else?
[02:45] <four2zero> damn vino is broken on ubuntu-server 10.10
[02:46] <MTecknology> yup... looks like that worked grand
[02:47] <MTecknology> four2zero: I just tried to do apt-get install -t experimental php5-fpm
[02:47] <MTecknology> !info php5-fpm maverick
[02:50] <MTecknology> four2zero: -t experimental doesn't seem to be looking at maverick
[02:50] <MTecknology> -t maverick doesn't seem to be either
[03:20] <kbutler> I'm running ubuntu server 8.10. Something screwy just started happening with my filesystem tonight. I can no longer create directories anywhere. mount says that the filesystem is mounted rw, and umounting it or remounting it rw doesn't affect the problem
[03:20] <kbutler> any suggestions?
[03:21] <kbutler> Basically the filesystem appears to be readonly, even though it's mounted rw
[03:21] <kbutler> we noticed because php can no longer create sessions :/
[03:28] <ScottK> kbutler: If you are really on 8.10, then the first suggestion is upgrade since that version is no longer supported.
[03:32] <jjcm> Hey all, I'm trying to get mail stuffs set up properly on my server. I use google apps for my domain, so my mail server isn't the same as my local box. However right now when sending soemthing to one of my google apps emails from sendmail, the relay gets set to local (which obv isn't correct as the mail servers are googles)
[03:33] <jjcm> How can I fix this? Is it a sendmail conf?
[03:57]  * freeflying 
[04:04] <ScottK> jjcm: Postfix is the standard MTA for Ubuntu, so the odds of there being much Sendmail expertise here are low.
[04:35] <Datz> hi, I thought updates to the kernel were the only ones that required a system restart?
[04:35] <Datz> I've updated everything but the kernel, and it's asking for a restart.
[04:35] <ScottK> Datz: There are a few others.
[04:36] <Datz> ah
[04:37] <Datz> is it dangerous in anyway to update kernel.. etc and not restart for awhile?
[04:37] <Datz> for example if there were a power outage
[04:40] <ScottK> Datz: The major risk is that you don't gain the benefits of whatever fix the new kernel has.  So if it's a security issue, you're vulnerable until you reboot.
[04:41] <Datz> ok
[04:41] <Datz> thanks
[04:51] <Datz> Of the other package upgrades that require restarts, are they a specific set, or random?
[04:52] <theyranos> is there an easy way to tell which package install created a particular user?
[04:54] <ScottK> Datz: It tends to be function of the specific update.
[04:54] <ScottK> Sometimes service restarts that are hard to get without a reboot are required, sometimes not.
[04:55] <Elixtang> Yeal
[04:59] <Datz> Ah, I understand a bit better now. Thanks ScottK. :)
[05:05] <aarcane> how to convert a standard install of ubuntu desktop to ubuntu server ?
[05:10] <Datz> I'd assume remove GUI (ubuntu-desktop) and install -server kernel version?
[05:11] <Datz> I'd just do a fresh install myself
[05:17] <aarcane> yeah, I'd rather take a few extra hours but get it done without appreciable downtime, as it's a high visibility system.
[05:18] <Datz> ah
[05:20] <theyranos> last time I tried, apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop did precisely nothing in addition to removing the metapackage. You can get part of the way there with this http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde but get rid of the kubntu-desktop at the end and replace it with ubuntu-minimal.
[05:22] <Datz> long commands :p
[05:22] <theyranos> exceptionally. and i should note that in the end, I did end up having to zero the drive and start over from a server iso
[05:22] <theyranos> albeit for unrelated reasons
[05:23] <theyranos> one thought would be to install the server iso on a virtual machine, do apt-get install -s ubuntu-desktop and see which packages get added because of the -desktop metapackage
[05:24] <theyranos> but certainly you'd want to actually check all those packages to make sure you're not removing something your high-visibility system needs to remain visible.
[05:26] <aarcane> hrrm
[05:26] <aarcane> so the only differences are the presence of the GUI and the -server kernel and whatever server packages are needed?
[05:27] <theyranos> pretty much. it's effectively the same OS. unless you're hurting for drive space, I'd say the safest bet is to just disable gdm and leave the packages there.
[05:30] <Datz> would aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop work any differently?
[05:30] <Datz> (or am I a silly goose)
[05:32] <theyranos> on my desktop system (kubuntu) aptitude -s remove kubuntu-desktop just offers to delete the metapackage again
[05:32] <theyranos> coulda sworn that worked a couple versions ago, though.
[05:33] <Datz> ah, I see
[05:43] <zanthir> Anyone familiar with the Ubuntu 1:1.13.3-1ubuntu11 built-in shell (ash)?
[05:43] <zanthir> I'm just trying to re partition my hard drive.
[05:44] <zanthir> For an Ubuntu Server install, no less.
[05:44] <zanthir> I had some problems loading the partitioner. Ended up here, in recovery mode.
[05:44] <zanthir> 270 users. Are you all asleep?
[05:45]  * theyranos is awake but not familiar with your problem
[05:45] <zanthir> Thanks. I appreciate the attention.
[05:46] <zanthir> I'm just trying to do a clean install, but am having problems. My first install failed. Now I can't load the partitioner (like step 3 of the install process).
[05:47] <zanthir> But I can get to a built-in shell (ash).
[05:48] <theyranos> any chance the fdisk command works from there?
[05:48] <zanthir> how would I test?
[05:48] <zanthir> yes
[05:48] <theyranos> fdisk /dev/sd0
[05:48] <theyranos> it's a command-line based partitioner that's fairly well documented
[05:49] <zanthir> unable to open /dev/sd0
[05:49] <zanthir> ok, I'll google it.
[05:52] <zanthir> Found it. Upon "fdisk /dev/sda" I get a WARNING: DOS-compatible mode is depreciated...something about (command 'c') and (command 'u')
[05:53] <zanthir> does that mean I should use "fdisk -c -u /dev/sda" or something like that?
[05:53] <zanthir> If you couldn't tell yet, I'm quite green. :)
[05:54] <theyranos> it should have brought up an interactive shell despite the warning
[05:54] <theyranos> try "p"
[05:54] <zanthir> Oh. It did. I just didn't notice.
[05:54] <theyranos> theoretically, that should show whatever your hard drive partition layout is now
[05:54] <zanthir> Right.
[05:56] <zanthir> I have a /dev/sda1 Linux, /dev/sda2 Extended, and an sda5 Linux LVM. Which is what I was trying to setup... but I didn't finish the install...
[05:57] <theyranos> but you did apparently successfully partition the drive
[05:57] <theyranos> which means i'm out of ideas
[05:57] <zanthir> I'm trying booting from my disk now... I should be able to start from scratch using fdisk though, right?
[05:58] <theyranos> originally, my suggestion was going to be be to manually partition the drive the way you want it, then tell the installer to skip that step and use an existing volume
[05:58] <theyranos> yes. if you can get as far as fdisk, you can wipe and replace your partition table
[05:58] <zanthir> Thank for your ideas. I think they were very good. Very helpful. Booting from disk isn't working.
[05:58] <theyranos> if it failed right after the partitioner, your drive probably doesn't have a boot sector yet
[05:59] <zanthir> Only problem is I don't know how I want it... But I'm sure I can look up some default config or something.
[05:59] <theyranos> one other thing you might try is to dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda for a few minutes to just erase the mbr and partition table entirely, then try the automatic partitioner thingy again
[05:59] <zanthir> It actually didn't fail until it was installing software the first time, but then I went back and screwed it up good.
[05:59] <theyranos> aaah
[06:00] <theyranos> did you get as far as that list of checkboxes asking what software you wanted installed?
[06:01] <zanthir> Yes. But that failed, and I went back one step at a time, and it kept failing at each step. Now if I start form scratch I only get as far as lodaing the partitioner.
[06:01] <theyranos> okay, yeah
[06:01] <theyranos> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda
[06:01] <theyranos> that will keep running indefinitely. let it go for about a minute then ctrl+c it
[06:01] <theyranos> then try the installer again
[06:01] <theyranos> when you get to that screen with the checkboxes, leave them all blank
[06:01] <zanthir> okay. type that in to fdisk command?
[06:01] <theyranos> sorry no into the shell
[06:02] <theyranos> q to get out of fdisk
[06:02] <zanthir> okay.
[06:02] <zanthir> I'm not there any more, rebooting in recovery mode (from the CD)
[06:02] <zanthir> (since booting from the disk failed)
[06:02] <theyranos> k
[06:04] <zanthir> Ok. It's doing something. What is it doing?
[06:05] <theyranos> writing 0s to your hard drive
[06:05] <zanthir> Cool.
[06:05] <theyranos> you only really need to zero out the first few KB, though, for this to work. That's where the partition table and MBR live
[06:05] <zanthir> Right.
[06:05] <theyranos> which is why you can ctrl+c it :-)
[06:05] <zanthir> So, I'm probably good after 30 seconds or so?
[06:06] <theyranos> yeah
[06:06] <zanthir> yup
[06:06] <zanthir> fdisk, p, p: not found.
[06:06] <zanthir> I'll try the partitioner again...
[06:07] <theyranos> best of luck. since it worked before, there's no reason it shouldn't work now
[06:07] <theyranos> but in my experience, installing stuff with those checkboxes is unreliable
[06:07] <theyranos> so i'd strongly recommend leaving them blank and just using apt-get install once you've got a live system.
[06:07] <zanthir> Ok. You suggest installing nothing, then adding software after the initial install?
[06:07] <zanthir> Right.
[06:07] <theyranos> yup :-)
[06:07] <zanthir> Sounds like a plan to me.
[06:08] <zanthir> You're the best!
[06:08] <zanthir> <3
[06:08] <theyranos> nah, I'm just bored watching progress bars
[06:08] <zanthir> downloading/installing?
[06:08] <theyranos> migrating some services from one virtual machine to another on a different host
[06:09] <zanthir> hm, interesting. I thought about that. I run a web site on an OpenSolaris machine, but have no idea how to use most of the stuff on that OS, so I'm setting this up, because it seems a little easier to find people who are doing what I want to. Basically, games, web sites, the usual.
[06:10] <theyranos> ah, yeah. Solaris variants take quite a bit of getting used to.
[06:11] <zanthir> I feel like Linux is probably a good stepping stone from windows to Solaris. The ZFS seems very cool, but I didn't even get as far as turning it on.
[06:11] <theyranos> well, yes and no
[06:12] <theyranos> one one hand, linux and ubuntu in particular is trivially easy to operate when compared with solaris
[06:12] <theyranos> on the other, once you use ubuntu for a while, if you want to go to solaris it'll be similar enough that you'll spend half your days banging your head against a monitor screaming "why must they make this so complicated?"
[06:13] <zanthir> Hah.
[06:13] <zanthir> partitioning failed again. At least the partitioner loaded and tried though.
[06:14] <theyranos> could your drive be bad?
[06:14] <theyranos> i'm really reaching now
[06:14] <theyranos> no error message?
[06:15] <zanthir> guiding me to remove /dev/sda5 now. That is the problem.
[06:17] <zanthir> Error message was "look at virtual terminal 4" which I knew by reading the Ubuntu book that I could look at by pressing Alt+F4.
[06:18] <theyranos> what was there?
[06:18]  * theyranos is trying to guess at what might be happening to your machine
[06:18] <zanthir> Oh, I forget, but now I'm watching here to realize that something is actually happening while I'm stuck at 60% done partitioning.
[06:20] <theyranos> i'm tempted to try to reproduce this in a virtual machine, but i don't think i have time before my progress bars finish
[06:20] <zanthir> I'm getting messages that look like Sep 24 05:20:16 kernel: [ 724.544667] ata1: EH complete
[06:22] <zanthir> and Sep 24 05:20:16 kernel: [ 724.544667] Buffer I/O error on device dm-0, logical block1
[06:22] <zanthir> ....end_request error: I/O ...
[06:22] <theyranos> okay, the EH complete one can be safely ignored
[06:22] <theyranos> the others suggest your hard drive is actually failing
[06:23] <zanthir> ...failed command: READ MULTIPLE
[06:23] <zanthir> ...exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0...
[06:23] <theyranos> got another drive floating around?
[06:24] <zanthir> On terminal 1 it says, "computing the new partitions," for the LVM I guess.
[06:24] <theyranos> yeah... but that shouldn't be generating kernel IO errors on a healthy drive.
[06:24] <zanthir> It probably is working, I just need to let it do its thing, and not worry that it is stuck at some specific %
[06:24] <zanthir> oh...
[06:24] <zanthir> bad drive then, probably. Lol.
[06:24] <theyranos> there is a chance that if you just let it sit for a while, it'll successfully mark all the bad sectors and avoid them from now on
[06:25] <zanthir> Right, which would be cool...
[06:25] <theyranos> but in general, by then you're just gambling anyway
[06:25] <zanthir> Ok, GF says I have to go to bed. She's so smart. I do go to work in 7 hours.
[06:25] <theyranos> you might boot six times, get it configured just the way you want, and then have the MBR turn into a brick.
[06:25] <theyranos> best of luck, though
[06:25] <theyranos> yes, listen to the gf :-)
[06:25] <zanthir> lol
[06:25] <zanthir> thanks
[06:26] <zanthir> *nod*
[06:26] <zanthir> nice to meet you
[06:26] <theyranos> thanks. ditto.
[06:34] <MTecknology> !info libxml2
[06:35] <MTecknology> hrm...
[06:42] <theyranos> MTecknology: just on the off chance you don't know, you can get that same information locally with apt-cache show libxml2 typed from a terminal
[06:44] <MTecknology> theyranos: I was comparing what I have to what's installed.. I don't know what's broken. :(
[06:44] <theyranos> ah
[07:51] <hungnv> I got stuck with OpenVZ on Ubuntu 9.04. I cannot stop, restart a VE, or enter to it.
[07:51] <hungnv> so, someone can tell me how can I kill that VE process to start it again?
[07:51] <hungnv> thank youi
[08:05] <hungnv> anyone, please?
[08:56] <daxroc> Morning
[10:22] <IanY57> newbie question: have 10.4 server - bind9 running behind a router with static IP - have domain name - do i put the static IP address or the server (local 10.1.1.XXX) into the default db.file?
[11:10] <soren> jdstrand: Your comment wanted on bug 646706.
[11:10] <soren> jdstrand: I desperately need it for EC2 style security groups to work in Nova.
[11:20] <ttx> Daviey: did smoketest basic install on today's ISO -- will smoketest UEC topo1/amd64 now
[11:21] <Daviey> ttx: Ok.. dandy, i'm reproducing some upgrade results at the moment
[11:21] <ttx> Daviey: I'm concentrating on pre-RC smoketests right now
[11:22] <Daviey> ttx: Ok.. i was also taking a sniff at the image proxy user-non-admin bug
[11:22] <Daviey> but i don't think it is release crticial
[11:22] <ttx> Daviey: btw I'll be at a conference Thursday, so I'll rely on you and mathiaz for release management coverage
[11:23] <ttx> will travel a few hours on Wednesday too
[11:23] <Daviey> ttx: Ok.. It would be handy to have a hand over briefing of things you are concerned about.. Wednesday lunchtime?
[11:24] <ttx> I'm leaving at 1000 UTC, then back online ~1400 UTC
[11:24] <ttx> hm, make that 0900 and 1300.
[11:25] <ttx> Daviey: my gcal is up to date
[11:26] <Daviey> ttx: Ok.. great - fancy picking a time that suites you to schedule a quick call?
[11:26] <Daviey> or jot it in an email, what ever suites
[11:40] <soren> ttx: Oh, you're only going to be there Thursday?
[11:58] <ttx> soren: and Friday
[11:59] <ttx> but Friday is post-RC so nobody carez
[11:59] <soren> ttx: Ah, gotcha.
[13:13] <doko> ttx: is it correct that heartbeat can be demoted to universe for maverick?
[13:14] <EvilPhoenix> !maverick
[13:15] <pmatulis> what was that for?
[13:15]  * ttx is a bit lost in rhcs pacemaker transition
[13:16] <ttx> doko: RoAkSoAx should be able to confirm that for you
[13:17] <EvilPhoenix> oops
[13:17] <EvilPhoenix> wrong channel sorry
[13:17] <doko> ttx: US timezone?
[13:17]  * EvilPhoenix kicks his touchpad
[13:17] <ttx> doko: yes, eastern
[13:21] <ttx> Daviey: full success on topo1/amd64. Anything you want me to check before I tear it down ?
[13:22] <Daviey> ttx: hmm... nothing coming to mind :/
[13:22] <Daviey> certainly nothing that is release blocking
[13:22] <Daviey> (IMO)
[13:29] <zul> morning
[13:36] <doko> JamesPage: hi, any chance that we can demote ant1.7 already in maverick?
[13:36] <hggdh> morning folks
[13:40] <JamesPage> doko: not sure what you mean by demote?
[13:40]  * JamesPage is showing his ignorance a bit
[13:41] <doko> JamesPage: removing from main, and putting into universe (which will only work if there no build dependencies or dependencies left in main)
[13:41] <soren> jdstrand: You know this better than I.. The libvirt thing is clearly a bugfix. Do we need any sort of freeze exception?
[13:41] <soren> jdstrand: It's amazing how quickly you forget these things.
[13:43] <soren> jdstrand: /me needs to head out... will be back 1800 UTC-ish.
[13:44] <doko> JamesPage:
[13:44] <doko> -- maverick/main build deps on ant1.7:
[13:44] <doko> libservlet2.4-java
[13:44] <doko> so the question extends to libservlet2.4-java
[13:45] <doko> and the question: Can libaxis-java be built with libservlet2.5-java?
[13:48] <overlord_tm> after using vmbuilder, do i have to use virt-install for VM to show up in virtsh list?
[13:48] <pmatulis> overlord_tm: no
[13:49] <JamesPage> doko: thought thats what you mean't but wanted to check
[13:50] <overlord_tm> pmatulis, i ran vmbuild kvm ubuntu -c myconfig.cfg. Everything went ok, i can run machine with included run.sh script, but it does not show up in virtsh -c qemu:///system list
[13:50] <crankygeek> Good morning, I am lookking for some help setting up a SSH tunnel, to my server. What I am trying to do is tunnel to my server, change my proxy setting in internet explorer and use that to browse using the tunnel....any help?
[13:51] <pmatulis> overlord_tm: i always use '--libvirt qemu:///system' in my vmbuilder command,  did you?
[13:52] <crankygeek> I am using PuTTY for windoze and can't seem to get a successful proxy connections
[13:52] <overlord_tm> pmatulis, http://pastebin.com/9YyvqJVB
[13:52] <overlord_tm> this is the config i used
[13:52] <JamesPage> doko: feels like a good bit of housekeeping
[13:53] <pmatulis> overlord_tm: is the machine running?
[13:54] <overlord_tm> pmatulis, if i run it with sudo sh run.sh, it boots up
[13:55] <pmatulis> overlord_tm: you'll need 'virsh list --all' to see non-running machines
[13:55] <overlord_tm> i know :)
[13:55] <pmatulis> overlord_tm: dunno then
[13:55] <overlord_tm> but it list only one VM (not the rigth one)
[13:55] <pmatulis> overlord_tm: using lucid?
[13:55] <overlord_tm> yes
[13:56] <pmatulis> overlord_tm: i heard vmbuilder was in a bad state in lucid.  i use karmic only for that
[13:56] <JamesPage> doko: I can't see the build-dep from libaxis-java -> libservlet2.4-java http://paste.ubuntu.com/499689/
[13:57] <overlord_tm> pmatulis, thanks for info :)
[13:58] <doko> JamesPage: ahh, libaxis-java-gcj still depends on the 2.4, not the 2.5 package ...
[14:00] <pmatulis> overlord_tm: np.  i also don't use cfg files.  i use a single shell script with a longass vmbuilder command (using '\' of course).  that way i see everything at once
[14:03] <JamesPage> doko: shall we continue this conversation in ubuntu-java?
[14:04] <overlord_tm> pmatulis, virt-install --import did the job i think :)
[14:07] <doko> JamesPage: for the next one ;) fix uploaded
[14:08] <JamesPage> doko: OK!
[14:21] <Daviey> hallyn / smoser: Any idea why i386 (maverick uec daily images), when started either through UEC (on i386) or libvirt directly are stuck at "Starting SeaBIOS (version .*)" ?
[14:22] <hallyn> Daviey: there have been bugs about that before...  lucid?
[14:22] <smoser> Daviey, i have no idea. has there been seabios or kvm updates ?
[14:22] <smoser> and are you using the loader or the kernel?
[14:23] <Daviey> smoser: don't think so
[14:23] <Daviey> kernel
[14:23] <smoser> k
[14:23] <smoser> then i suspect seabios update, kvm update, or, libvirt / app armor
[14:23] <smoser> :)
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[14:24] <Daviey> Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[14:24] <smoser> i think your h key is stuck
[14:24] <jpds> smoser: He's merely training for the opera.
[14:25] <Daviey> hah
[14:25] <zul> Daviey: serenity now! serenity now! insanity later!
[14:26] <Daviey> stability now please :)
[14:28] <smoser> festivus!
[14:28] <jdstrand> soren: I don't think we need a FFe-- it is like you said a bug fix, but we need the right fix
[14:28] <jpds> Daviey: "Keep calm".
[14:28] <Daviey> :)
[14:32] <hggdh> actually, better would be "don't panic"
[14:32] <hallyn> Daviey: 'kvm -kernel' works on 64-bit guest on maverick with 32- and 64- bit emulated cpu, at any rate.  do you have a 32-bit physical server install you can test on?
[14:34] <hggdh> Daviey, zul: eventually I will need sapodilla and soncoya, for the fully-distributed tests
[14:34] <zul> hggdh: they are all yours
[14:34] <Daviey> hggdh: you are welcome to them... thanks for lending them to us :)
[14:34] <hggdh> you are all welcome. I will grab then, now, and try euca on all, from the current ISO
[14:35] <Daviey> i don't know if i do have any physical 32 bit servers...  this is a 64 bit arch, running i386 install
[14:35] <Daviey> hggdh: good to hear!
[14:40] <a_ok> I'm trying to start a chrooted mysqld however it complains about a missing upstart socket. is this something I can fix?
[14:42] <Daviey> smoser: I see you are the maintainer of cloud-utils .. do you have an upload planned?
[14:42] <smoser> no. do you need one ?
[14:42] <Daviey> jah!
[14:42] <smoser> what is needed ?
[14:43] <Daviey> smoser: have you ran uec-run-instances recently? :)
[14:43] <smoser> no
[14:44] <Daviey> smoser:  We don't have paramiko as base anymore... needs to be a depends
[14:44] <smoser> ugh.
[14:44] <smoser> can you open a bug ?
[14:44] <smoser> and i'll try to get that fixed today.
[14:45] <Daviey> smoser: I am raising a bug right now... I don't mind fixing it, unless you really want to
[14:45] <smoser> well, trunk is:
[14:45] <smoser> lp:~ubuntu-on-ec2/ubuntu-on-ec2/cloud-utils/
[14:48] <smoser> give me a bug number and i have commit ready
[14:49] <smoser> the only issue is that there are 2 other things fixed in trunk
[14:49] <smoser> one a bug, one a feature
[14:53] <Daviey> smoser: i saw :/
[14:53] <Daviey> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~davewalker/ubuntu-on-ec2/cloud-utils/
[14:53] <Daviey> smoser: ^^
[14:54] <Daviey> bug there... i don't care if you discard that branch..
[14:54] <smoser> so what should we do ?
[14:54] <smoser> i'm ok if we think we need to re-order and drop the feature
[14:57] <smoser> Daviey, ^
[14:58] <lool> Hey folks
[14:59] <lool> I'm trying to resize a qcow2-backed kvm disk
[14:59] <lool> and it's been two times that I fail and get an unbootable system and lose the data
[14:59] <lool> (fortunately, it's a copy of the data)
[15:00] <Daviey> smoser: Well... you are the maintainer :)
[15:00] <smoser> well, i'm not the release admin
[15:00] <smoser> and it is definitely a (small) feature
[15:00] <lool> It's a lucid vm created with ubuntu-vm-builder, which I shutdown before resizing; I do something like qemu-img convert -O raw tmpHbobjA.qcow2 rootfs.raw, dd if=/dev/zero of=rootfs.raw count=0 bs=1 seek=48G, reboot, and then I fiddle with fdisk; at that last step, the system becomes unbootable for some reason
[15:00] <ttx> soren: you are past FinalFreeze, so you need to make that a RC issue, then convince the release team the risk/benefit tradeoff is worth it
[15:00] <Daviey> I sort of expected that the bzr branch is now pinned until Natty opens... and cherry pick backports back and apply to apt-get source
[15:01] <Daviey> but it's up to you smoser :)
[15:01] <Daviey> ttx: was that for smoser ?
[15:01] <smoser> ok. then, feature is no.
[15:02] <smoser> so then we have 2 bugs that can be fixed.
[15:02] <smoser> should i not fix the other ,and just get daviey's ?
[15:02] <Daviey> smoser: you are the maintainer :)
[15:02] <Daviey> make a decision man! :P
[15:03] <smoser> feature out. 2 bugs in.
[15:03] <ttx> Daviey: no. It was for soren.
[15:03] <smoser> it was well timed :)
[15:04] <Daviey> ttx: oh, ok :)  you managed to answer two questions concurrently :)
[15:04] <ttx> I have the Ring of Timing +8
[15:04] <Daviey> smoser: surely we want the bugs *out*?
[15:04] <smoser> the rhinoceros never stood a chance.
[15:04]  * Daviey has felt the desire of ttx's ring.
[15:04] <ttx> smoser: it was a triceratops.
[15:05] <smoser> true
[15:05] <smoser> did that answer anyone elses question ? (that it was a triceratops)
[15:06] <pmatulis> the triceratops never existed
[15:06] <patdk-wk> some would say I don't exist also
[15:06] <pmatulis> patdk-wk: who would say such a thing?
[15:06] <ttx> pmatulis: I think someone already objected to that.
[15:06] <patdk-wk> most everyone would say hatsune miku doesn't exist :)
[15:07] <pmatulis> ttx: really?
[15:08] <ttx> pmatulis: see thread at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2010-August/004474.html
[15:09] <ttx> in particular https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2010-August/004476.html
[15:11] <pmatulis> ttx: oh ok
[15:11] <ttx> and wikipedia says it existed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triceratops
[15:11] <pmatulis> ttx: well if wikipedia says it existed then it existed
[15:12] <ttx> pmatulis: or maybe.. someone is wrong on the Internet.
[15:12] <ttx> we should ask jcastro, he is the in-house specialist.
[15:13] <smoser> Daviey,
[15:13] <smoser> dpkg-gencontrol: warning: package cloud-utils: unused substitution variable ${python:Depends}
[15:13] <smoser> i'm guessing the intent of that variable was to automatically pick up the paramiko
[15:13] <smoser> but i know not much about that. hints ?
[15:14] <Daviey> smoser: none.. sorry.
[15:18] <smoser> Daviey, upload is done. 2 bugs fixed.
[15:18] <smoser> trunk re-worked so the feature is in 0.17ubuntu1
[15:18] <Daviey> smoser: super
[15:21] <smoser> so what do i have left to do there, ?
[15:21] <smoser> i guess i need to put some justification in the bugs ?
[15:25] <ttx> SpamapS: ping
[15:27] <zul> ttx: also i would like to get windows live network authenitcaion bug fixed as well
[15:27] <zul> https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7577
[15:27] <ttx> zul: sounds... risky
[15:27]  * ttx looks up the patch
[15:28] <ttx> zul: sounds like a worthwhile goal
[15:28] <ttx> the patch is reasonable
[15:29] <ttx> zul: do you have an ubuntu bug number for it ?
[15:29] <zul> ttx: lemme pull up the lp bug
[15:29] <ttx> I'll add it to maverick targets of opportunity
[15:29] <zul> ttx: bug #458637
[15:30]  * zul pauses
[15:43] <MTecknology> zul: Is there any ppa or anything I could grab php5_5.3.3 from? The dotdeb version is kinda broken. :(
[15:43] <zul> MTecknology: nope...download the maverick version and build it
[15:43] <MTecknology> zul: it's in maverick!
[15:44]  * MTecknology hugs zul 
[15:52] <ttx> SpamapS: ping
[15:52] <ttx> mathiaz: ping
[15:53] <mathiaz> ttx: o///// ^^^^^ 555555
[15:53] <ttx> mathiaz: Missing current status for server-maverick-uds-seed-review (0% completion)
[15:53] <ttx> still on track / will potentially be completed post-release ?
[15:53] <mathiaz> ttx: deferred to natty
[15:53] <ttx> ah, ok.
[15:54] <mathiaz> ttx: mainly pre-uds things
[15:54] <ttx> mathiaz: please mark items postponed then
[15:54] <mathiaz> ttx: will do
[15:54] <ttx> you'll mark all postponed ?
[15:55] <ttx> i'll move it out of the releas e team radar then.
[15:55] <mathiaz> ttx: done
[15:55] <ttx> mathiaz: thanks !
[15:58] <ttx> mathiaz: i'll be at a conference on Thursday, which is RC milestone day. Will you be able to cover for me ? I already asked Dave to cover on the EU shift.
[15:59] <mathiaz> ttx: sure
[16:03] <mathiaz> JamesPage: gobby
[16:10] <lool> Ok; I solved my resizing issue
[16:17] <hallyn> mathiaz: could you take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~serge-hallyn/ubuntu/lucid/lxc/fix-separate-var and consider sponsoring, pretty-plz?
[16:27] <SpamapS> ttx: pong
[16:27] <ttx> SpamapS: see pm
[16:27] <ttx> quick
[16:27] <ttx> :)
[16:43] <ehcah> hello. What is the best/safest way to connect to the server desktop gui? I currently use putty to terminal, but would like to be able to access the desktop GUI from time to time. I have enable remote desktop sharing, but that only seems to work if I leave myself logged in at the physical console?
[16:52] <patdk-wk> ehcah, lots of options, vnc, nx, ...
[16:52]  * patdk-wk doesn't think ubuntu server has a gui though
[16:56] <ehcah> I've been using vnc a bit, but it doesn't always allow me to login? I often get a connection not found message...
[17:15] <weekly> question: So i have a freshly upgraded server edition ubuntu install (upgraded from 8.04 to 10.04.1) and upon restart, im greeted by a GUI login screen that should NOT be there, its a file server that does nothing but host samba shares. Now when i try to SSH in it crashes the box and makes the shares un-avaliable. What should i look at if SSH'ing in is crashing the thing?
[17:16] <weekly> also if i let it sit at the GUI login screen it eventualy bugs out and i get some odd messages across the screen that look like "[82962.0560046] EDAC MCO : UE page 0x0 offset, grain 536870912, row 4 label ":" i3200 UE"
[17:18] <weekly> any help would be awsome! the shares work and people can access it an work but im afraid if i leave it too long something is gonna blow up
[17:19] <ScottK> The GUI looking splash screen is on purpose (even if a bit unfortunate), so that part isn't a suprise.
[17:20] <weekly> yeah i think the guys that worked here before me tried to insall the GUI and failed, and my upgrade finished what they were starting
[17:21] <mealstrom> hi
[17:22] <AnirbanHazra> I want to install curl on my hardy vps.. how to do that
[17:22] <weekly> ScottK, is their a command to check if everything installed correctly like the apt-get -f type deal?
[17:23] <ScottK> sudo apt-get update && apt-get -f install should do it.
[17:23] <mealstrom> hi, does anybody have a problem with printing from firefox where youve got only US-letter paper size ?
[17:23] <ScottK> I suspect the kernel message is harmless, but Google may know more.
[17:26] <weekly> thanks Scott, ill try that tonight when all the employees are gone. SHould i try to re-install SSH? what command would you use to do that?
[17:26] <AnirbanHazra> I want to install curl on my hardy vps.. how to do that
[17:27] <jrib> !apt > AnirbanHazra
[17:27] <aetaric> AnirbanHazra: hardy!?
[17:27] <AnirbanHazra> aetaric : Ubuntu 8.10 LTS
[17:28] <AnirbanHazra> sorry Ubuntu 8.04 LTS
[17:28] <aetaric> AnirbanHazra: yeah. there is a new lts... :/
[17:29] <AnirbanHazra> aetaric: but need to upgrade my knowledge also before upgrading to 10.04 LTS. Have no time to do that. :( . help me out on the curl issue,
[17:30] <aetaric> sudo apt-get install curl
[17:37] <AbhiJit> hi
[17:37] <AbhiJit> anyone can suggest me a good step by steop guide for setting up lamp on ubuntu? for beginners?
[17:38] <ScottK> The ssh business, I'm not sure of.
[17:38] <aetaric> to remove and reinstall ssh?
[17:39] <aetaric> sudo apt-get purge openssh; sudo apt-get install openssh
[17:41]  * AbhiJit just found one!
[17:42] <weekly> thanks aetaric ill try that
[17:43] <AbhiJit> mysql -u root
[17:43] <AbhiJit> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[17:43] <AbhiJit> while configuring mysql getting that error! any help?
[17:43] <aetaric> AbhiJit
[17:44] <AbhiJit> aetaric, yes?
[17:44] <aetaric> mysql -u root -p
[17:44] <AbhiJit> aetaric, thanks!
[17:44] <aetaric> no problem
[17:48] <woodsman> Anyone have any experience getting ubuntu server to deploy from cobbler?
[17:50] <AbhiJit> while trying to do this command sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-auth-mysql php5-mysql phpmyadmin after insatllation it is now asking me to choose between two servers apache2 and lighttpd
[17:50] <AbhiJit> which one to select?
[17:51] <AbhiJit> anyone please tell me?
[17:52] <AbhiJit> i am stuck in middle of that installation?
[17:52] <AbhiJit> aetaric, help?
[17:54]  * AbhiJit selected apache2
[17:57] <ScottK> AbhiJit: Either are fine http servers.   apache2 is the one that's the most supported by Ubuntu server, so if you don't know, I'd go with that one.
[17:58] <AbhiJit> ScottK, yah i selected that only
[17:59] <aetaric> apache2
[18:02] <AbhiJit> aetaric, yah thanks!
[18:30] <mathiaz> hallyn: looking at https://code.launchpad.net/~serge-hallyn/ubuntu/lucid/lxc/fix-separate-var
[18:33] <mathiaz> hallyn: bug 566827 - IIUC it's fixed in maverick?
[18:34] <hallyn> mathiaz: yup, maverick has 0.7.2, which has the fix
[18:34] <ScottK> mathiaz: Do you think you could arrange for someone who knows about perl and backtraces to have a look at the last comment in Bug #645009
[18:34] <mathiaz> hallyn: ok
[18:35] <mathiaz> ScottK: you may wanna ask jiboumans about perl backtraces
[18:36] <ScottK> mathiaz: I think you just did.
[18:36] <mathiaz> hallyn: ok - I've update bug 566827
[18:37] <mathiaz> hallyn: so that it can be turned into a SRU
[18:37] <mathiaz> hallyn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates outlines the process
[18:37] <mathiaz> hallyn: what I did was to make sure the bug was fixed in the development release (ie maverick)
[18:37] <mathiaz> hallyn: and then accepted the lucid nomination
[18:38] <mathiaz> hallyn: as a prerequisite of an SRU is to fix the bug in the develpment version
[18:38] <hallyn> mathiaz: i noted in the description that it was fixed in amverick...
[18:38] <hallyn> well lemme go see what you did
[18:39] <hallyn> mathiaz: i see.  got it.  thanks!
[18:39] <mathiaz> hallyn: no problem.
[18:39] <mathiaz> hallyn: I don't think you can accept a nomination yet
[18:39] <hallyn> ?
[18:39] <mathiaz> hallyn: I don't know which team you need to be part of to do so
[18:40] <mathiaz> hallyn: accepting a nomination allows to create lucid task
[18:40] <mathiaz> hallyn: you've correctly nominated the bug for a specific release
[18:40] <mathiaz> hallyn: I've just accepted your nomination
[18:40] <mathiaz> hallyn: at some point down the line you'll be able to nominate+accept a bug in one step
[18:40] <hallyn> i'm pretty sure that my lack of clearly understanding what you're saying means i'm not ready for that yet anyway :)
[18:41] <mathiaz> hallyn: :)
[18:41] <hallyn> but i think i've got it, thanks again.
[18:41]  * mathiaz looks at the merge proposal
[19:05] <alex88> hi, i'm trying to use aria2 to download a file, but the download won't start..for example i use: aria2c http://www.google.it and it stays to [#1 SIZE:0B/0B CN:1 SPD:0Bs]..no way to go on..
[19:15] <AbhiJit> newbie question
[19:15] <AbhiJit> please help
[19:16] <EvilPhoenix> AbhiJit, ask your question please
[19:16] <AbhiJit> after installing lamp where is that 'www' folder where i suppose to keep .php files and etc
[19:16] <EvilPhoenix> AbhiJit, /var/www
[19:16] <AbhiJit> EvilPhoenix, ^^ please help
[19:16] <EvilPhoenix> ?
[19:16] <AbhiJit> EvilPhoenix, that one is there but i cant save file there it needs sudo
[19:16] <AbhiJit> is that ok?
[19:16] <AbhiJit> i mean normal?
[19:16] <EvilPhoenix> AbhiJit, the default web directory is /var/www.  use sudo to write to it
[19:16] <AbhiJit> EvilPhoenix, ok thanks
[19:16] <EvilPhoenix> it doesnt hurt to move files to there with sudo
[19:17] <EvilPhoenix> it keeps other ssh users from messing with the files too x]
[19:17] <EvilPhoenix> but cp files to ther
[19:17] <EvilPhoenix> e
[19:17] <EvilPhoenix> not mv
[19:17] <EvilPhoenix> or edit them with sudo nano <file>
[19:17] <EvilPhoenix> or whatever editor you like
[19:17] <AbhiJit> yah done EvilPhoenix thanks!
[19:18] <EvilPhoenix> AbhiJit, no problem, I have that setup for all my servers: root only can write to the www dir
[19:18] <EvilPhoenix> or sudo users x]
[19:18] <AbhiJit> yah
[19:18] <EvilPhoenix> its also by default...
[19:18] <EvilPhoenix> so...
[19:18] <EvilPhoenix> x]
[19:41] <mdlueck> I have documented a kernel regression with the latest 10.04 kernel. I have purged off of my server older kernels already. Where can I fetch an older build of the kernel from so that the regression may be worked around. (Yes, I know "with known security risk".)
[19:43] <mdeslaur> mdlueck: from launchpad: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+publishinghistory
[19:43] <mdlueck> I believe I have seen sub-revisions of the 2.6.32-24 kernel install
[19:43] <mdeslaur> mdlueck: click on the version you want, and then click on the right on the architecture you want
[19:43] <mdeslaur> and you should get a list of binaries you can click to download
[19:43] <mdlueck> mdeslaur: aahhh, thanks
[19:52] <failover> Hey, my postfix send messages to procmail, procmail can delivery messages to /var/mail/sysadmin/new but can't delivery to /var/mail/sysadmin/.Junk/ show this error on log: procmail: Unable to treat as directory "/var/mail/sysadmin/.Junk"
[19:53] <failover> Anyone know why this happens ?
[20:05] <soren> zul: Ok, so according to ttx, I need to get bug 646706 considered an RC issue before I'm allowed to fix it. What's the trick?
[20:05] <soren> zul: I imagine it involves subscribing ubuntu-release. What else? Should I target it for the release or is that only for the release team?
[20:06] <zul> soren: looking
[20:07] <ScottK> soren: "Before you upload, please let the release team know about it." is satisfied by subscribing us to the bug, which you've done.  I'd say fire away.
[20:08] <zul> soren: looks good to me...i nominated it for maverick and subscribed the release team just ping them in #ubuntu-release
[20:08] <soren> ScottK: Excellent, thanks.
[20:09] <qjcg1> is there a package for the Amazon elastic load balancing API tools somewhere?
[20:09] <qjcg1> (ie http://developer.amazonwebservices.com/connect/entry.jspa?categoryID=88&externalID=2536 )
[20:10] <zoopster> qjcg1: unlikely...Amazon has an unfriendly license
[20:11] <qjcg1> zoopster: ok thanks, good to know
[20:24] <fx3> is there any way to handle boot errors that are after bios but pre init 4 on a headless server?
[20:29] <zul> have a good weekend
[20:38] <soren> jdstrand: Ok, now I'm confused.
[20:38] <jdstrand> ?
[20:38] <soren> jdstrand: The problem the bug from earlier was meant to address was seen on an older kernel.
[20:38] <soren> jdstrand: On the current Maverick kernel, I cannot reproduce it.
[20:39] <soren> jdstrand: Which baffles me. I see the socket call in strace, but it's not being blocked by apparmour?
[20:39] <jdstrand> soren: you might see it again. there were some problems with network mediation. ask jjohansen for details
[20:39] <jdstrand> soren: that sounds consistent with the problems with network mediation that are going to be fixed in a 0day maverick kernel
[20:40] <jdstrand> soren: ie, you want to fix it
[20:40] <soren> jdstrand: Ah, so the fact that apparmour isn't blocking it is a bug?
[20:40] <jdstrand> soren: yes
[20:41] <soren> jdstrand: That's good, I suppose. It makes providing a test case kind of difficult, though.
[20:41] <jjohansen> yeah
[20:41] <soren> I can test it on the box with the older kernel, though, I suppose.
[20:41] <jjohansen> soren: I can provide you with a test kernel
[20:41] <soren> jjohansen: I have a lucid box and a backported libvirt.
[20:41] <soren> jjohansen: The apparmour profiles should be compatible, right?
[20:42] <jjohansen> that should work
[20:42] <jjohansen> yeah
[20:42] <soren> Great, thanks.
[20:42] <soren> jdstrand: Do I need to do anything clever at postinst time to make this apply or does magic just happen?
[20:43] <jjohansen> soren: just make sure to use apparmor restart, it will regenerate caches, and make sure the new profile is loaded
[20:43] <jdstrand> soren: it should just happen
[20:44] <soren> jdstrand: Yup, just found the snippet in postinst. Great.
[20:44] <jjohansen> jdstrand: hrmm, what do you mean just happen?  Don't you have to trigger a restart/reload
[20:44] <soren> jjohansen: That libvirt-bin postinst already does that.
[20:44] <jjohansen> ah
[20:44] <soren> jjohansen: So magic needs to be done, but I don't need to do it myself.
[20:46] <jdstrand> jjohansen: libvirt's postinst uses apparmor_parser
[20:47] <jjohansen> jdstrand: right, libvirt is special
[20:47] <jdstrand> jjohansen: well, it is in its VMs, but the use of apparmor_parser is how we do all packages with apparmor profiles these days
[20:48] <jjohansen> ah, I wasn't aware we had done that
[20:48] <jdstrand> jjohansen: ie, there is no reason to invalidate all the cache everytime a package is updated when only the one profile needs to be updated
[20:48] <jdstrand> dh_apparmor was written to do all the magic
[20:48] <jdstrand> it uses -r -W -T
[20:49] <jjohansen> right, I need to finish getting the update flag in so only those that require updates are done
[20:49] <jdstrand> some packages don't use dh_apparmor, but they do the equivalent
[20:49] <jdstrand> *shrug*
[20:49] <jdstrand> no big woo
[20:49] <jdstrand> it works fine for now
[20:50] <Qwert> Are mirror servers slow today?
[20:50] <soren> I would be surprised if all >100 mirrors all decided to be slow on the same day.
[20:51] <Nafallo> soren: you haven't been around at release day, have you? ;-)
[20:52] <soren> Let me rephrase. :)
[20:52] <soren> I would be surprised if all >100 mirrors all decided to be slow today.
[21:17] <ScottK> jdstrand: After soren uploads is fix, I'd appreciate it if you'd review/comment in the bug on it.
[21:18] <jdstrand> ScottK: k
[21:22] <pudgypaw> hey guys, i have trouble getting php to parse
[21:22] <pudgypaw> it worked before but yesterday my setup suddenly quit on me, can anyone walk it through w/ me?
[21:23] <pudgypaw> I can try apache+php or nginx+php whichever will work
[21:24] <EvilPhoenix> um...
[21:24] <EvilPhoenix> what's your current setup
[21:24] <pudgypaw> virtualbox, bridged internet, openSSH and LAMP stack installed
[21:24] <EvilPhoenix> doesnt LAMP come with apache or smth?
[21:25]  * EvilPhoenix yawns
[21:25] <EvilPhoenix> forgive me if i state the obvious
[21:25] <EvilPhoenix> been awake several days now
[21:25] <pudgypaw> I used this: LAMP, zip, php for cmd line
[21:25] <pudgypaw> $ tasksel install lamp-server
[21:25] <pudgypaw> $ apt-get install zip php5-cli
[21:25] <pudgypaw> whoah sleep is needed man @_@
[21:25] <EvilPhoenix> mmm
[21:25] <EvilPhoenix> not if you have an unlimited supply of BAWLS or COFFEE
[21:25] <EvilPhoenix> anyways
[21:25] <pudgypaw> lol
[21:26] <EvilPhoenix> never used lamp-server
[21:26] <EvilPhoenix> my system's a VPS, but apache + phpaddin for it has worked
[21:26] <EvilPhoenix> got phpBB running to prove it
[21:26] <EvilPhoenix> but
[21:26] <EvilPhoenix> i digress
[21:26] <EvilPhoenix> x]
[21:26] <EvilPhoenix> you could always try loading apache2
[21:26] <EvilPhoenix> and its php addons
[21:26] <EvilPhoenix> ehh darn
[21:26] <pudgypaw> I've tried that too, used
[21:26] <EvilPhoenix> which ones are they
[21:26] <pudgypaw> sudo apt-get install apache2 lib-apache2modsomethinglikethat php5
[21:26] <EvilPhoenix> *opens Synaptic*
[21:27] <pudgypaw> hmm
[21:27] <EvilPhoenix> libapache2-mod-php5 would probably work
[21:27] <EvilPhoenix> lemme check aptitude on my server
[21:27] <pudgypaw> let me try that..
[21:28] <pudgypaw> root@ubuntu:/etc/apache2# sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5
[21:28] <pudgypaw> Reading package lists... Done
[21:28] <pudgypaw> Building dependency tree
[21:28] <pudgypaw> Reading state information... Done
[21:28] <pudgypaw> libapache2-mod-php5 is already the newest version.
[21:28] <pudgypaw> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 22 not upgraded.
[21:28] <pudgypaw> root@ubuntu:/etc/apache2#
[21:28] <EvilPhoenix> mmm
[21:28] <EvilPhoenix> you restarted LAMP or Apache2 (assuming you have apache2)
[21:29] <pudgypaw> yeah
[21:29] <pudgypaw> darn thing is.. my setup worked for 6 straight months
[21:29] <EvilPhoenix> lol
[21:29] <EvilPhoenix> check to make sure the php packages are updated
[21:29] <pudgypaw> don't know why  it suddenly doesn't work anymore, tried apache, nginx abunch of different setups
[21:30] <EvilPhoenix> whats your version of php5-* btw
[21:30] <pudgypaw> I also did virtualbox, VMware, amazonEC2, all the same issue
[21:30] <EvilPhoenix> they should be all the same
[21:30] <EvilPhoenix> well
[21:30] <pudgypaw> latest one from repos
[21:30] <EvilPhoenix> just tell me the version you have of php5
[21:30] <EvilPhoenix> lucid?
[21:30] <pudgypaw> lemme check (yeah lucid)
[21:30] <EvilPhoenix> that should be 5.3.2-1ubublah
[21:30] <pudgypaw> php 5.3
[21:30] <pudgypaw> yeah that one
[21:30] <EvilPhoenix> yep
[21:30] <EvilPhoenix> i'm looking at aptitude now (dual screens ftw)
[21:31] <EvilPhoenix> hmm
[21:31] <EvilPhoenix> i dont know what to say
[21:31] <pudgypaw> i was starting to think the php repository is handing out buggy ones now
[21:31] <EvilPhoenix> except
[21:31] <EvilPhoenix> restart
[21:31] <EvilPhoenix> from scratch
[21:31] <EvilPhoenix> i.e.
[21:31] <pudgypaw> rebuild
[21:31] <EvilPhoenix> uninstall keep configs
[21:31] <EvilPhoenix> and rebuild
[21:31] <pudgypaw> rebuilt 20 times in past 3 days x.x
[21:31] <qman__> clear your apt cache too
[21:31] <EvilPhoenix> ouch
[21:31] <EvilPhoenix> oyea what qman said
[21:31] <pudgypaw> well it's all virtual instances so it's ok but, yeah lots of code 14hrs straight everyday
[21:32] <qman__> one corrupt download could be throwing the whole thing off
[21:32] <EvilPhoenix> indeed
[21:32] <qman__> I helped a guy about a week ago and that was the case
[21:32] <EvilPhoenix> didnt even think about othat there qman
[21:32] <EvilPhoenix> must mean i'm dead tired
[21:32] <pudgypaw> how do i purse the apt cache?
[21:32] <EvilPhoenix> BLAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[21:32] <EvilPhoenix> darn *away*
[21:32] <qman__> remove all .deb files in /var/cache/apt/archive
[21:32] <pudgypaw> kk *goes to remove*
[21:32] <qman__> then rebuild
[21:33] <pudgypaw> mk
[21:34] <pudgypaw> tasksel: aptitude failed (100)
[21:35] <EvilPhoenix> o.o
[21:35] <EvilPhoenix> ouch
[21:35] <EvilPhoenix> brb
[21:38] <pudgypaw> hmmm, i'm gonna re-build from scratch, and slam a sudo apt-get update && upgrade first
[21:48] <doko> RoAkSoAx: ping
[21:51] <zanthir> pong [round trip: 2 minutes]
[21:51] <soren> ScottK, jdstrand: I'll get it done today, the real world is just quite demanding on me right now.
[21:52] <zanthir> er, 3 minutes, if you actually look at the clock...
[21:56] <MTecknology> !openvz
[22:10] <mathiaz> ScottK: hi - could you help out on moving things forward on bug 638213?
[22:18] <incentient> hello was wondering if someone can help, i lost /bin/ls and a few other commands, ownership changed on them to 122 and group haldaemon
[22:19] <incentient> how is it possible ownership changed on these by themselves?
[22:19] <incentient> can anyone help me with this?
[22:20] <jrib> incentient: solar radiation?
[22:20] <incentient> lol
[22:20] <incentient> i saw haldaemon i figured mat daemon
[22:21] <incentient> it's happening on almost all of my ubuntu-server deployments, he's been busy
[22:22] <jrib> incentient: on lucid?
[22:24] <incentient> actually on 9.10 and 10.04
[22:25] <incentient> the one im looking at is 9.10
[22:38] <pudgypaw> well I just tried scratch start from AmazonEC2, Virtualbox, VMware, SliceHost, all with new apt-get update/upgrade. Still can't get php to parse
[22:38] <incentient> are there alot of problems with the 64 bit version?
[22:38] <pudgypaw> i'm so confused as to why will php parse last week but not this week, nginx setup, apache/lamp setup, all fail. I'm seriously eyeballin the php repository as broken
[22:39] <pudgypaw> oh yeah, ur right, i'm doing x64 builds so far
[22:39] <pudgypaw> but it worked without fail for past 6 months
[22:39] <incentient> every install of ubuntu 64 i have is breaking
[22:39] <incentient> i lost ls
[22:39] <pudgypaw> you lost ls?!?
[22:39] <incentient> 122 haldaemono now owns ps, ls, netstat
[22:39] <incentient> yea
[22:39] <pudgypaw> even on fresh builds?
[22:39] <incentient> on production servers this keeps happening randomly
[22:39] <incentient> no rhyme or reason
[22:39] <incentient> yea well
[22:40] <incentient> i built one last week 10days
[22:40] <incentient> happened already on ls
[22:40] <incentient> eventually scp, ssh
[22:40] <incentient> prob happen in a few days... i dont get it
[22:40] <pudgypaw> what....
[22:40] <pudgypaw> should we downgrade for stabilityi?
[22:40] <incentient> my vm of ubuntu is fine htough, this is happening only on deployments
[22:40] <incentient> hah chill imean this might just be my problem
[22:40] <incentient> i still have no idea what's wrong.. someone made a comment tome
[22:40] <pudgypaw> not sure about that, all my new setups are breaking, only one still alive is production
[22:41] <incentient> huh
[22:41] <incentient> well
[22:41] <soren> jdstrand, ScottK: Uploaded libvirt.
[22:41] <incentient> whats your situation
[22:41] <pudgypaw> i didn't touch that for 3 months tho
[22:41] <pudgypaw> basically php will give me either WSOD or no-parse
[22:41] <incentient> hmm
[22:41] <incentient> php version ?
[22:41] <pudgypaw> my setup suddenly no longer works, same build etc
[22:41] <pudgypaw> 5.3
[22:41] <incentient> we use 5.3.2?
[22:42] <incentient> oh
[22:42] <incentient> when does that happen
[22:42] <incentient> i havent seen mine do anythign like that
[22:42] <pudgypaw> I've been doing various builds at least several times a week w/ no issues till this week
[22:42] <pudgypaw> was wondering if the repo system for php went buggy
[22:42] <incentient> php commabnd line doesnt work?
[22:43] <pudgypaw> that works
[22:43] <incentient> i use dotdeb's package
[22:43] <pudgypaw> hmm, let me look at taht
[22:43] <incentient> add them to to the repos
[22:43] <incentient> i didnt know ubuntu had 5.3 in it's default repos yet
[22:45] <pudgypaw> interestingly, i think i only started seeing that this week
[22:45] <incentient> we started seeing all this happen within a few months
[22:45] <incentient> but now more often
[22:45] <incentient> a server we installed 6 months ago was solid until we began sshing into it to pull code
[22:45] <incentient> now has these syptoms
[22:46] <incentient> and one i built 10 days ago same thing
[22:46] <incentient> in fact the older ones running desktop 9.10 64 bit
[22:46] <incentient> newer one is runinng 10.04 server
[22:46] <incentient> both have same thing
[22:47] <pudgypaw> did you set them to autoupdate?
[22:47] <incentient> hmm on the new one owner is 122, group is 114 instead of root root
[22:47] <incentient> nah
[22:47] <incentient> def not
[22:47] <incentient> thats default no i think
[22:47] <pudgypaw> yeah
[22:48] <incentient> i dont know much about haldaemon
[22:48] <jdstrand> ScottK: bug ACKd
[22:49] <incentient> why the heck would ls become owned by that
[22:49] <jdstrand> ScottK: err, soren's bug ACKd (646706)
[22:56] <illytacos> Hi folks, long story but I'm trying to take users and file permissions from a server running ubuntu 9.04 and put them on a different server running 10.04. I'm trying to build a test environment without having to recreate all the groups and users. Any easy way to do this?? Thanks for the amazing work and taking the time to help!!
[22:57] <_Techie_> illytacos, i would think rsync would handle the file permissions
[22:58] <_Techie_> illytacos, but as far as migrating the user database, i dont know
[22:58] <illytacos> hm yeah I'm trying to move it over so that I am able to recreate the exact same environment without having to create the file permissions from scratch. that would take a while....
[22:59] <_Techie_> illytacos, http://nigibox.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/migrate-user-from-old-server-to-new-server-for-debian-ubuntu-or-linux-generally/
[22:59] <jrib> illytacos: would just copying the relevant parts of /etc/passwd /etc/group and /etc/shadow not work?  (while preserving permissions on the user's files during the transfer of course)
[23:00] <illytacos> ahhhh no I'm not trying to migrate all the files. I already did that. Just the users and permissions
[23:00] <illytacos> sorry i should have been more clear
[23:00] <illytacos> jrib: I have no idea never tried. :)
[23:01] <_Techie_> illytacos, okay, then i got another tutorial that tells you whats what
[23:01] <_Techie_> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-move-migrate-user-accounts-old-to-new-server/
[23:01] <_Techie_> i would just ignore /var/spool/mail and /home
[23:01] <illytacos> ah thanks folks! between the two of you I think I have my answer. I was trying to search on the net and I ended up with tonnes of documentation on how to create and change permissions and groups but not much on how to migrate them. Thanks folks!
[23:02] <_Techie_> illytacos, galad we could help
[23:02] <_Techie_> glad*
[23:03] <illytacos> I'm a total noob but in an org with no IT support
[23:09] <MattTheComputerG> I just installed the latest ubuntu-server over an old gentoo installation, snd now the bios hangs when its gose to list the drives, it also dose the same thing when i try to enter the bios
[23:09] <MattTheComputerG> can anyvody help, or is anybody even here?
[23:11] <RoAkSoAx> doko: pong
[23:14] <pudgypaw> im here, but struggling w/ php issues
[23:23] <ScottK> soren and jdstrand: accepted.  Thanks.
[23:25] <_Techie_> is anyone able to tell me what they think a fair charge for creating a dialip modem box for someone would be?
[23:25] <_Techie_> dialup*
[23:26] <MattTheComputerG> can anyvody help, or is anybody even here?
[23:26] <jdstrand> ScottK: thanks
[23:27] <ScottK> jdstrand: Always nice to have someone to share the blame with if something goes wrong.  Thanks for reviewing.
[23:28] <_Techie_> MattTheComputerG, bios hangs can be caused by bad formatting
[23:29] <jdstrand> ScottK: hehe. if something goes wrong with that patch, that is pretty bad ;)
[23:29] <jdstrand> ScottK: but absolutely
[23:30]  * ScottK doesn't touch apparmor profiles without you  checking them ...
[23:30] <jdstrand> ScottK: I think that is wise. not for you or me specifically, but to get someone from the security to ack a change is appropriate
[23:31] <ScottK> Yep.
[23:56] <Verahsa> Does someone have a few minutes to help me setup a newly installed ubuntu server as a caching DNS server & file server? :) I attempted to go through the server guide, but for whatever reason it's not cooperating.