ronj | could anyone confirm ISO installation still fails? LP #642405 | 01:02 |
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ubottu | Launchpad bug 642405 in ubuntustudio-meta (Ubuntu) "package conflict (foomatic-db / foomatic-db-compressed-ppds) causes Ubuntu Studio installation to fail" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/642405 | 01:02 |
holstein | hey ronj | 01:04 |
holstein | its going to be a while :/ | 01:05 |
ronj | hai holstein | 01:05 |
holstein | im juggling a couple installs right now | 01:05 |
ronj | [offtopic-shameless-self-promotion, but it may be appreciated by Ardour users] After being asked a few times the stems for my albums, I decided to package and upload them, so if anyone is interested in my dirty Ardour underwear (1. to learn a few tricks and 2. to laugh at my pitiful mixing), here they are: www.flyingmolehill.com/2010/09/source-code.html | 05:01 |
holstein | cool ronj :) | 05:22 |
* holstein taking a look | 05:22 | |
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mika__ | hi, i've just found out ubuntu studio... i need to setup a pc for record audio/video from a camcorder and eventually stream it online (i was thinking about ustream with webcamstudio)....plus record screencasts (unfortunately there is nothing for linux like camtasia :( ) and video editing... is ubuntu studio a good choice? | 11:06 |
persia | It's not a bad choice for that: probably as stable a base for that project as anything else. That said, I'm not sure that's one of the use cases that's well tested with Ubuntu Studio today. | 11:07 |
persia | Give it a try, explain what works and what doesn't, and we'll try to help you if you get stuck. | 11:08 |
mika__ | persia: ok... :) | 11:08 |
mika__ | do you know if ubuntu (or better linux in general) support professional external audio cards? (i actually don't have it now here so i can't tell you the model/brand) | 11:09 |
persia | Depends on the card. We've had lots of reports of specific cards working (like mine), but some folks report struggling with theirs. | 11:10 |
persia | Come back and ask about the brand :) | 11:11 |
mika__ | eheh, ok... | 11:11 |
mika__ | thanks ;) | 11:11 |
persia | I believe we have fairly wide support for all the brands, and we strive towards leadership in that area (although we don't always succeed) | 11:11 |
mika__ | ok.. good to know :) when i go back home i'll check it out | 11:13 |
Indigo_Studio | hello :) | 13:02 |
mika__ | i've found out the audio card.... it's a m-audio fast track ultra..... and for what i'm seeing it's not so good supported by linux :'( | 19:42 |
holstein | hmmm | 19:42 |
holstein | mika__: i think that can happen | 19:42 |
holstein | let me look around for a second | 19:42 |
holstein | mika__: is that the same as http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/M-Audio_FastTrack_Pro ?? | 20:05 |
holstein | hmmm | 20:06 |
astraljava | mika__: This post seems to indicate there is code for that card in ALSA: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8671242&postcount=6 | 20:06 |
holstein | yeah, i see its different | 20:06 |
holstein | astraljava: COOL | 20:06 |
mika__ | holstein: nope, it's the ultra (not pro)... btw i've found a patch to apply to alsa which whouls more or less solve it | 20:06 |
holstein | i was trying to remember :) | 20:06 |
mika__ | now i've just to install ubuntu studio and try it out :) (or wait for 10.10, don't know... ;) ) | 20:06 |
holstein | mika__: http://opensourcemusician.libsyn.com/ | 20:07 |
holstein | mika__: you dont need ubuntu studio | 20:07 |
holstein | you dont need to re-install is what i mean | 20:07 |
holstein | !vanilla | 20:07 |
ubottu | To install Ubuntu Studio on top of a vanilla Ubuntu install, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation | 20:07 |
mika__ | holstein: i've a clean pc with nothing on it, i've to install something btw... i'll go straight with the studio version ;) but as it's not so urgent i'm thinking about waiting 2 weeks and then install directly the 10.10 :) | 20:08 |
holstein | if your going to install 10.10 | 20:09 |
holstein | i think you can go for it now | 20:09 |
holstein | there was some issues with the daily iso's | 20:09 |
holstein | for studio | 20:10 |
holstein | but you can install regular maverick | 20:10 |
holstein | and update from there if you have any problems | 20:10 |
mika__ | ok ;) | 20:12 |
mika__ | btw it's a pity that linux doesn't have anygood app for making screencasts :( | 20:12 |
holstein | mika__: there are a few | 20:14 |
holstein | recordmydekstop is the one i tried | 20:14 |
holstein | i have a friend over in #opensourcemusicians that did some nice ones though | 20:14 |
holstein | we should ask him what he used | 20:14 |
holstein | [lsd] | 20:14 |
holstein | i didnt need audio for the ones i did | 20:14 |
mika__ | i tried recordmydesktop too (the qt version) and it works... but it's not as intuitive as the competitors (read: camtasia), considering that it'll be used from not geek users | 20:15 |
mika__ | holstein: mmm..that would be interesting.. :) | 20:16 |
holstein | i dont think recordmydesktop is competing with anyone ;) | 20:16 |
mika__ | :) | 20:16 |
mika__ | i'll also check what video editing use... on my dekstop i've kdenlive, but i never tried others.. i hope that there is something good ;) (i'm kinda new on this) | 20:17 |
holstein | yeah | 20:19 |
holstein | theres all kinds | 20:19 |
holstein | http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/top5-linux-video-editing-system-software/ | 20:20 |
holstein | http://techcityinc.com/2009/02/04/top-10-free-video-editors-for-ubuntu-linux/ | 20:20 |
holstein | but | 20:21 |
holstein | if your looking for 'final cut pro' or whatever | 20:21 |
holstein | your not going to find it | 20:21 |
holstein | i think its much better to just come to linux having not used any tools ;) | 20:21 |
holstein | other ones* | 20:21 |
holstein | i used to use cubase in XP | 20:22 |
holstein | and it took quite a while to get used to the workflow of JACK and ardour | 20:22 |
holstein | really no comparison of features in my opinion | 20:23 |
holstein | just totally different | 20:23 |
* holstein doesnt do much video editing though | 20:23 | |
holstein | but i know folks are | 20:23 |
holstein | chrisadams over in #opensourcemusicians does | 20:24 |
holstein | mika__: http://www.youtube.com/opensaucemusic | 20:26 |
mika__ | holstein: ok... actually i never did any audio,video & co neither under windows, mac and linux... :) | 20:27 |
holstein | mika__: :) | 20:27 |
mika__ | but we're setting up our office to record tutorials and live events, and i've to set it up.. :) | 20:28 |
holstein | mika__: you might want to consider using 10.04 | 20:29 |
holstein | the LTS | 20:30 |
holstein | for things like that | 20:30 |
holstein | where stability is preffered over the latest and greatest | 20:30 |
holstein | mika__: also, look into http://www.ustream.tv/ | 20:31 |
holstein | all the 'heavy lifting' is done on thier servers ;) | 20:31 |
holstein | i run an icecast server here | 20:31 |
holstein | and stream audio | 20:31 |
mika__ | i think i'll try both (as a old gentoo user i'm more for the latest :) ) | 20:31 |
holstein | it'll do video | 20:31 |
holstein | but im suspicious of my bandwidth | 20:32 |
holstein | to support video properly | 20:32 |
holstein | for more than a couple viewers | 20:32 |
mika__ | yeah, i know ustream... we'll use it for streaming... (with webcamstudio IIRC)... so there will be a camcorder attached to the pc, and mics to the mixer then the audio card and then the pc.. it'll record the audio&video and stream it... i hope that the pc will survive it :) (as it's not a very recent machine) | 20:33 |
holstein | yeah, linux is light-weight | 20:33 |
holstein | usually the best choice for reviving old hardware | 20:34 |
holstein | P4 ?? | 20:34 |
mika__ | bw it's the bad thing.. we've a slow line (fiber don't reach us :( ), but using ustream (which they'll then stream to the users with their bw) i think that 1 mbps could be ok.. i hope :) | 20:34 |
holstein | i would say a P4 with a gig of ram should be able to handle whatever | 20:35 |
holstein | mika__: yeah, in that case | 20:35 |
holstein | something with a server somewhere else might be ideal | 20:35 |
holstein | maybe a linode server or something | 20:35 |
holstein | if you feel ustream isnt dependable | 20:36 |
mika__ | yeah... it's my old desktop pc, a p4 3.4 (or 3.2 i don't remember) with 4 gb of ram and a lot of disk space (at least if we use it...as it's fans are quite noisy, and having it for record tutorial could not be so good) | 20:36 |
holstein | mika__: yeah, that'll be plenty | 20:36 |
holstein | i do a lot of this stuff | 20:36 |
holstein | JACK and some audio editing | 20:36 |
holstein | on an EEEpc | 20:36 |
holstein | celeron 900mhz with a gig of ram ;) | 20:36 |
mika__ | :) | 20:37 |
holstein | not ideal, but do-able | 20:37 |
mika__ | i'll check icecast too btw..it could became useful ;) | 20:37 |
holstein | i used to have my PC in the closet | 20:38 |
holstein | and add extension cable | 20:38 |
holstein | i stuck it in a drawer once too | 20:38 |
holstein | my newer box is quite quiet though | 20:38 |
mika__ | :) | 20:39 |
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azat | vv | 23:02 |
holstein | << | 23:02 |
azat | ыыы | 23:02 |
rlameiro | lol | 23:03 |
rlameiro | >> | 23:03 |
rlameiro | oops | 23:03 |
rlameiro | ^^ | 23:03 |
holstein | ;) | 23:03 |
rlameiro | again | 23:03 |
rlameiro | vv | 23:03 |
rlameiro | << | 23:03 |
rlameiro | ^^ | 23:03 |
azat | ?? | 23:04 |
holstein | >> | 23:04 |
holstein | aw | 23:04 |
holstein | almost :) | 23:04 |
azat | ьробормбропм | 23:04 |
azat | =) | 23:04 |
azat | :-S | 23:04 |
azat | :-D | 23:04 |
azat | :-(|) | 23:05 |
holstein | whats up there azat :) | 23:05 |
azat | sin kyttak syrlama! | 23:05 |
rlameiro | rusky | 23:06 |
rlameiro | ? | 23:06 |
azat | no | 23:07 |
rlameiro | magyar? | 23:07 |
azat | tatar=) | 23:07 |
holstein | rlameiro: whats your schedule like? | 23:08 |
holstein | id like to do some colaborating with you | 23:09 |
holstein | when you have time | 23:09 |
holstein | maybe in mumble? | 23:09 |
holstein | write some things, or perform some things duo | 23:09 |
rlameiro | well, i would like that, but i dont have that capability now on this house, perhaps when i move to another place, without mother in law and grand mother in law :D | 23:11 |
holstein | :/ | 23:11 |
holstein | well, i know we had talked about it in the past | 23:11 |
rlameiro | sorry | 23:11 |
holstein | and i just wanted to let you know im still into it | 23:11 |
rlameiro | yes, i hope i move soon | 23:11 |
holstein | whenever we can make it happen :) | 23:11 |
rlameiro | by soon, 2-3 maybe 4 months | 23:11 |
holstein | sure | 23:11 |
holstein | maybe we can take some time and get some ideas together before then | 23:12 |
holstein | and record it whenever | 23:12 |
holstein | maybe i'll have jacktrip sorted out my then | 23:12 |
holstein | by* ^^ | 23:12 |
rlameiro | and me, my arm FX box :D | 23:13 |
holstein | hehe | 23:13 |
azat | What is IRC? | 23:14 |
holstein | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat | 23:15 |
azat | thanks | 23:16 |
azat | I'm first time here | 23:17 |
holstein | welcome :) | 23:17 |
holstein | azat: are you using ubuntustudio ? | 23:17 |
azat | little... | 23:18 |
holstein | cool | 23:18 |
holstein | for audio? | 23:18 |
holstein | audio production? video? | 23:18 |
azat | I want to Audio | 23:19 |
holstein | http://opensourcemusician.libsyn.com/ | 23:19 |
holstein | http://www.linuxmusicians.com/ | 23:19 |
azat | downloaded the ISO but was unable to determine//errors... | 23:20 |
azat | currently a regular ubuntu | 23:20 |
azat | soon as possible going to the studio | 23:21 |
holstein | azat: check out | 23:22 |
holstein | !vanilla | 23:22 |
ubottu | To install Ubuntu Studio on top of a vanilla Ubuntu install, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation | 23:22 |
holstein | Вы можете конвертировать в Ubuntu Ubuntu Studio | 23:30 |
holstein | Вы можете конвертировать в Ubuntu UbuntuStudio ** | 23:30 |
azat | dont unerstand you=) | 23:32 |
holstein | hehe | 23:33 |
holstein | yeah, im not sure how accurate google translate is ;) | 23:33 |
holstein | you can convert regular ubuntu into ubuntustudio | 23:33 |
holstein | that link ^^ explains | 23:34 |
azat | Cloudy Google =) | 23:36 |
holstein | totally :) | 23:36 |
azat | how this can be done? | 23:36 |
holstein | in ubuntu | 23:36 |
holstein | just open synaptic or whatever you use to install software | 23:37 |
holstein | and seach ubuntustudio | 23:37 |
holstein | and you'll see the meta-packages | 23:37 |
holstein | and you can read about them | 23:37 |
holstein | i usually run | 23:37 |
azat | right now, try | 23:37 |
holstein | sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-audio-plugins | 23:38 |
holstein | azat: that can take some time | 23:39 |
holstein | its a lot of data | 23:39 |
azat | i know | 23:39 |
holstein | :) | 23:39 |
azat | in sunaptic i find | 23:39 |
azat | but ... | 23:40 |
azat | but through the terminal it will be easier to do | 23:40 |
holstein | sure | 23:40 |
azat | i think... | 23:41 |
holstein | where ever your most comfortable | 23:41 |
holstein | sudo apt-get update | 23:41 |
holstein | sudo apt-cache search ubuntustudio | 23:41 |
azat | cool! | 23:42 |
azat | error=( | 23:42 |
holstein | in | 23:42 |
holstein | sudo apt-get update | 23:42 |
holstein | ? | 23:42 |
holstein | have you added repositories? | 23:43 |
azat | try through sunaptic | 23:43 |
holstein | you might want to look at your sources | 23:43 |
holstein | system - administration - software sources | 23:43 |
holstein | look at the 'other software' tab | 23:44 |
holstein | and make sure you dont have any repos added that arent verified | 23:44 |
holstein | azat: whats the error? | 23:44 |
holstein | you'll get an error if you have synaptic running | 23:45 |
holstein | and try to run apt-get | 23:45 |
azat | process has gone through sunaptic=) | 23:45 |
holstein | cool | 23:46 |
azat | After 40 minutes you're ready, I hopeB-) | 23:47 |
holstein | thats great | 23:47 |
* holstein gotta go make some music | 23:47 | |
holstein | azat: let us know how it goes :) | 23:47 |
holstein | laterx | 23:47 |
azat | studying English for about 9 years but really do not know... | 23:48 |
azat | ok | 23:49 |
azat | net speed 141 kb/s 900mb-total size=) | 23:50 |
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