[01:02] <ronj> could anyone confirm ISO installation still fails? LP #642405
[01:04] <holstein> hey ronj
[01:05] <holstein> its going to be a while :/
[01:05] <ronj> hai holstein
[01:05] <holstein> im juggling a couple installs right now
[05:01] <ronj> [offtopic-shameless-self-promotion, but it may be appreciated by Ardour users] After being asked a few times the stems for my albums, I decided to package and upload them, so if anyone is interested in my dirty Ardour underwear (1. to learn a few tricks and 2. to laugh at my pitiful mixing), here they are: www.flyingmolehill.com/2010/09/source-code.html
[05:22] <holstein> cool ronj :)
[05:22]  * holstein taking a look
[11:06] <mika__> hi, i've just found out ubuntu studio... i need to setup a pc for record audio/video from a camcorder and eventually stream it online (i was thinking about ustream with webcamstudio)....plus record screencasts (unfortunately there is nothing for linux like camtasia :( ) and video editing... is ubuntu studio a good choice?
[11:07] <persia> It's not a bad choice for that: probably as stable a base for that project as anything else.  That said, I'm not sure that's one of the use cases that's well tested with Ubuntu Studio today.
[11:08] <persia> Give it a try, explain what works and what doesn't, and we'll try to help you if you get stuck.
[11:08] <mika__> persia: ok... :)
[11:09] <mika__> do you know if ubuntu (or better linux in general) support professional external audio cards? (i actually don't have it now here so i can't tell you the model/brand)
[11:10] <persia> Depends on the card.  We've had lots of reports of specific cards working (like mine), but some folks report struggling with theirs.
[11:11] <persia> Come back and ask about the brand :)
[11:11] <mika__> eheh, ok...
[11:11] <mika__> thanks ;)
[11:11] <persia> I believe we have fairly wide support for all the brands, and we strive towards leadership in that area (although we don't always succeed)
[11:13] <mika__> ok.. good to know :) when i go back home i'll check it out
[13:02] <Indigo_Studio> hello :)
[19:42] <mika__> i've found out the audio card.... it's a m-audio fast track ultra..... and for what i'm seeing it's not so good supported by linux :'(
[19:42] <holstein> hmmm
[19:42] <holstein> mika__: i think that can happen
[19:42] <holstein> let me look around for a second
[20:05] <holstein> mika__: is that the same as http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/M-Audio_FastTrack_Pro ??
[20:06] <holstein> hmmm
[20:06] <astraljava> mika__: This post seems to indicate there is code for that card in ALSA: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8671242&postcount=6
[20:06] <holstein> yeah, i see its different
[20:06] <holstein> astraljava: COOL
[20:06] <mika__> holstein: nope, it's the ultra (not pro)... btw i've found a patch to apply to alsa which whouls more or less solve it
[20:06] <holstein> i was trying to remember :)
[20:06] <mika__> now i've just to install ubuntu studio and try it out :) (or wait for 10.10, don't know... ;) )
[20:07] <holstein> mika__: http://opensourcemusician.libsyn.com/
[20:07] <holstein> mika__: you dont need ubuntu studio
[20:07] <holstein> you dont need to re-install is what i mean
[20:07] <holstein> !vanilla
[20:08] <mika__> holstein: i've a clean pc with nothing on it, i've to install something btw... i'll go straight with the studio version ;) but as it's not so urgent i'm thinking about waiting 2 weeks and then install directly the 10.10 :)
[20:09] <holstein> if your going to install 10.10
[20:09] <holstein> i think you can go for it now
[20:09] <holstein> there was some issues with the daily iso's
[20:10] <holstein> for studio
[20:10] <holstein> but you can install regular maverick
[20:10] <holstein> and update from there if you have any problems
[20:12] <mika__> ok ;)
[20:12] <mika__> btw it's a pity that linux doesn't have  anygood app for making screencasts :(
[20:14] <holstein> mika__: there are a few
[20:14] <holstein> recordmydekstop is the one i tried
[20:14] <holstein> i have a friend over in #opensourcemusicians that did some nice ones though
[20:14] <holstein> we should ask him what he used
[20:14] <holstein> [lsd]
[20:14] <holstein> i didnt need audio for the ones i did
[20:15] <mika__> i tried recordmydesktop too (the qt version) and it works... but it's not as intuitive as the competitors (read: camtasia), considering that it'll be used from not geek users
[20:16] <mika__> holstein: mmm..that would be interesting.. :)
[20:16] <holstein> i dont think recordmydesktop is competing with anyone ;)
[20:16] <mika__> :)
[20:17] <mika__> i'll also check what video editing use... on my dekstop i've kdenlive, but i never tried others.. i hope that there is something good ;) (i'm kinda new on this)
[20:19] <holstein> yeah
[20:19] <holstein> theres all kinds
[20:20] <holstein> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/top5-linux-video-editing-system-software/
[20:20] <holstein> http://techcityinc.com/2009/02/04/top-10-free-video-editors-for-ubuntu-linux/
[20:21] <holstein> but
[20:21] <holstein> if your looking for 'final cut pro' or whatever
[20:21] <holstein> your not going to find it
[20:21] <holstein> i think its much better to just come to linux having not used any tools ;)
[20:21] <holstein> other ones*
[20:22] <holstein> i used to use cubase in XP
[20:22] <holstein> and it took quite a while to get used to the workflow of JACK and ardour
[20:23] <holstein> really no comparison of features in my opinion
[20:23] <holstein> just totally different
[20:23]  * holstein doesnt do much video editing though
[20:23] <holstein> but i know folks are
[20:24] <holstein> chrisadams over in #opensourcemusicians does
[20:26] <holstein> mika__: http://www.youtube.com/opensaucemusic
[20:27] <mika__> holstein: ok... actually i never did any audio,video & co neither under windows, mac and linux... :)
[20:27] <holstein> mika__: :)
[20:28] <mika__> but we're setting up our office to record tutorials and live events, and i've to set it up.. :)
[20:29] <holstein> mika__: you might want to consider using 10.04
[20:30] <holstein> the LTS
[20:30] <holstein> for things like that
[20:30] <holstein> where stability is preffered over the latest and greatest
[20:31] <holstein> mika__: also, look into http://www.ustream.tv/
[20:31] <holstein> all the 'heavy lifting' is done on thier servers ;)
[20:31] <holstein> i run an icecast server here
[20:31] <holstein> and stream audio
[20:31] <mika__> i think i'll try both (as a old gentoo user i'm more for the latest :) )
[20:31] <holstein> it'll do video
[20:32] <holstein> but im suspicious of my bandwidth
[20:32] <holstein> to support video properly
[20:32] <holstein> for more than a couple viewers
[20:33] <mika__> yeah, i know ustream... we'll use it for streaming... (with webcamstudio IIRC)... so there will be a camcorder attached to the pc, and mics to the mixer then the audio card and then the pc.. it'll record the audio&video and stream it... i hope that the pc will survive it :) (as it's not a very recent machine)
[20:33] <holstein> yeah, linux is light-weight
[20:34] <holstein> usually the best choice for reviving old hardware
[20:34] <holstein> P4 ??
[20:34] <mika__> bw it's the bad thing.. we've a slow line (fiber don't reach us :( ), but using ustream (which they'll then stream to the users with their bw) i think that 1 mbps could be ok.. i hope :)
[20:35] <holstein> i would say a P4 with a gig of ram should be able to handle whatever
[20:35] <holstein> mika__: yeah, in that case
[20:35] <holstein> something with a server somewhere else might be ideal
[20:35] <holstein> maybe a linode server or something
[20:36] <holstein> if you feel ustream isnt dependable
[20:36] <mika__> yeah... it's my old desktop pc, a p4 3.4 (or 3.2 i don't remember) with 4 gb of ram and a lot of disk space (at least if we use it...as it's fans are quite noisy, and having it for record tutorial could not be so good)
[20:36] <holstein> mika__: yeah, that'll be plenty
[20:36] <holstein> i do a lot of this stuff
[20:36] <holstein> JACK and some audio editing
[20:36] <holstein> on an EEEpc
[20:36] <holstein> celeron 900mhz with a gig of ram ;)
[20:37] <mika__> :)
[20:37] <holstein> not ideal, but do-able
[20:37] <mika__> i'll check icecast too btw..it could became useful ;)
[20:38] <holstein> i used to have my PC in the closet
[20:38] <holstein> and add extension cable
[20:38] <holstein> i stuck it in a drawer once too
[20:38] <holstein> my newer box is quite quiet though
[20:39] <mika__> :)
[23:02] <azat> vv
[23:02] <holstein> <<
[23:02] <azat> ыыы
[23:03] <rlameiro> lol
[23:03] <rlameiro> >>
[23:03] <rlameiro> oops
[23:03] <rlameiro> ^^
[23:03] <holstein> ;)
[23:03] <rlameiro> again
[23:03] <rlameiro> vv
[23:03] <rlameiro> <<
[23:03] <rlameiro> ^^
[23:04] <azat> ??
[23:04] <holstein> >>
[23:04] <holstein> aw
[23:04] <holstein> almost :)
[23:04] <azat> ьробормбропм
[23:04] <azat> =)
[23:04] <azat> :-S
[23:04] <azat> :-D
[23:05] <azat> :-(|)
[23:05] <holstein> whats up there azat :)
[23:05] <azat> sin kyttak syrlama!
[23:06] <rlameiro> rusky
[23:06] <rlameiro> ?
[23:07] <azat> no
[23:07] <rlameiro> magyar?
[23:07] <azat> tatar=)
[23:08] <holstein> rlameiro: whats your schedule like?
[23:09] <holstein> id like to do some colaborating with you
[23:09] <holstein> when you have time
[23:09] <holstein> maybe in mumble?
[23:09] <holstein> write some things, or perform some things duo
[23:11] <rlameiro> well, i would like that, but i dont have that capability now on this house, perhaps when i move to another place, without mother in law and grand mother in law :D
[23:11] <holstein> :/
[23:11] <holstein> well, i know we had talked about it in the past
[23:11] <rlameiro> sorry
[23:11] <holstein> and i just wanted to let you know im still into it
[23:11] <rlameiro> yes, i hope i move soon
[23:11] <holstein> whenever we can make it happen :)
[23:11] <rlameiro> by soon, 2-3 maybe 4 months
[23:11] <holstein> sure
[23:12] <holstein> maybe we can take some time and get some ideas together before then
[23:12] <holstein> and record it whenever
[23:12] <holstein> maybe i'll have jacktrip sorted out my then
[23:12] <holstein>                           by* ^^
[23:13] <rlameiro> and me, my arm FX box :D
[23:13] <holstein> hehe
[23:14] <azat> What is IRC?
[23:15] <holstein> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat
[23:16] <azat> thanks
[23:17] <azat> I'm first time here
[23:17] <holstein> welcome :)
[23:17] <holstein> azat: are you using ubuntustudio ?
[23:18] <azat> little...
[23:18] <holstein> cool
[23:18] <holstein> for audio?
[23:18] <holstein> audio production? video?
[23:19] <azat> I want to Audio
[23:19] <holstein> http://opensourcemusician.libsyn.com/
[23:19] <holstein> http://www.linuxmusicians.com/
[23:20] <azat> downloaded the ISO but was unable to determine//errors...
[23:20] <azat> currently a regular ubuntu
[23:21] <azat> soon as possible going to the studio
[23:22] <holstein> azat: check out
[23:22] <holstein> !vanilla
[23:30] <holstein> Вы можете конвертировать в Ubuntu Ubuntu Studio
[23:30] <holstein> Вы можете конвертировать в Ubuntu UbuntuStudio **
[23:32] <azat> dont unerstand you=)
[23:33] <holstein> hehe
[23:33] <holstein> yeah, im not sure how accurate google translate is ;)
[23:33] <holstein> you can convert regular ubuntu into ubuntustudio
[23:34] <holstein> that link ^^ explains
[23:36] <azat> Cloudy Google =)
[23:36] <holstein> totally :)
[23:36] <azat> how this can be done?
[23:36] <holstein> in ubuntu
[23:37] <holstein> just open synaptic or whatever you use to install software
[23:37] <holstein> and seach ubuntustudio
[23:37] <holstein> and you'll see the meta-packages
[23:37] <holstein> and you can read about them
[23:37] <holstein> i usually run
[23:37] <azat> right now, try
[23:38] <holstein> sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-audio-plugins
[23:39] <holstein> azat: that can take some time
[23:39] <holstein> its a lot of data
[23:39] <azat> i know
[23:39] <holstein> :)
[23:39] <azat> in sunaptic i find
[23:40] <azat> but ...
[23:40] <azat> but through the terminal it will be easier to do
[23:40] <holstein> sure
[23:41] <azat> i think...
[23:41] <holstein> where ever your most comfortable
[23:41] <holstein> sudo apt-get update
[23:41] <holstein> sudo apt-cache search ubuntustudio
[23:42] <azat> cool!
[23:42] <azat> error=(
[23:42] <holstein> in
[23:42] <holstein> sudo apt-get update
[23:42] <holstein> ?
[23:43] <holstein> have you added repositories?
[23:43] <azat> try through sunaptic
[23:43] <holstein> you might want to look at your sources
[23:43] <holstein> system - administration - software sources
[23:44] <holstein> look at the 'other software' tab
[23:44] <holstein> and make sure you dont have any repos added that arent verified
[23:44] <holstein> azat: whats the error?
[23:45] <holstein> you'll get an error if you have synaptic running
[23:45] <holstein> and try to run apt-get
[23:45] <azat> process has gone through sunaptic=)
[23:46] <holstein> cool
[23:47] <azat> After 40 minutes you're ready, I hopeB-)
[23:47] <holstein> thats great
[23:47]  * holstein gotta go make some music
[23:47] <holstein> azat: let us know how it goes :)
[23:47] <holstein> laterx
[23:48] <azat> studying English for about 9 years but really do not know...
[23:49] <azat> ok
[23:50] <azat> net speed 141 kb/s 900mb-total size=)