[00:00] It will be installing that [00:00] Rounin: knetworkmanager was ment to be getting replaced by the widget anyway :) look like its finally good enough for that to happen [00:01] * James147 is really liking kpackagekit on maverick :D [00:02] It'll be fun to see what it's like! [00:08] * James147 is impressed with the network widget [00:11] hello [00:23] hello again [00:23] Waleed: welcome back :) [00:23] James147: hello [00:24] thank you James147 [00:24] James147: I got new problem [00:24] the wireless cannot be connected [00:25] Waleed: can explain in more detail? [00:25] when I ran the system the wirless couldn't connect to my network [00:26] Waleed: thats just adding more words :) .. what are you tring to connect work (knetworkmanager)? what encrpytion are you using? [00:26] I made static ip through manage network connection [00:27] yes knetworkmanager and the encryption is WEB [00:28] Waleed: well, try it with dhcp first :) and WEEB... or WEP? [00:28] WEB ^^ [00:28] WEP [00:30] Waleed: yeah, knetowrkmanager is fussy with wep... it dosnt autodetect all the configs, try changing the various settings on that page (keytype and authentication) and see if any of them work... or switch to wpa, knetworkmanager works better with it and its much much much more sucure [00:31] hi all, is there any problem known with ssd's? [00:31] LinuxUser: they tend to have a shorter life expentency... at least the older ones did, not sure on the current ones, also they are expensive :) [00:33] everytime i type on my keyboard everything hangs === Malkavian__ is now known as Malkavian === Malkavian is now known as Malkavian_ [01:09] where can I find the .bashrc file in KUbuntu ? [01:11] chinmaya: in your home [01:17] when i do ls in my home folder ..there is nothing [01:17] is it hidden files ? [01:17] chinmaya: it's a hidden file. [01:17] chinmaya: do ls -a [01:17] chinmaya: all files starting with a "." are hidden per default [01:17] chinmaya: anything beginging with a '.' is a hidden file [01:20] chinmaya@chinmaya-workstation:/home$ ls -a [01:20] . .. chinmaya .directory [01:20] i get the above output ..am i doing something wrong ? [01:21] chinmaya: inside your home [01:21] chinmaya: "ls -a ~" [01:21] (or "ls -a /home/chinmaya") [01:22] chinmaya: "less ~/.bashrc" will display the contents of the file. [01:22] chinmaya: note that we said 'your' home directory :) not the home (which means the folder named after your user in /home (normally)) [01:23] ~ is a shortcut key for your home directory. [01:27] Hello [01:27] cory: Hello [01:28] Anyone playing with the gcalcli? [01:29] I've been messing with it all day and now I am getting all these errors [01:29] thanks ..how can i edit the .bashrc file [01:29] chinmaya: open it in an editor [01:30] chinmaya: "kate ~/.bashrc" is probally the easiest way [01:31] This my first time using the IRC is this a developer channel? [01:32] cory: this is the kubuntu support channel [01:32] oh [01:32] cory: what are you developing in? [01:33] python [01:33] cory: try in #python then [01:33] anyone here move from crunchbang linux to kubuntu? [01:33] (to join type /j #python [01:33] is it worth the switch? [01:34] thanks [01:46] alguém do brasil? === Guest10569 is now known as ryanakca === root is now known as Guest58423 [03:04] anyone ever get silverlight to bring out audio such as a internet radio station that uses it? === david is now known as Guest87425 [04:17] hello ,everyone [04:18] if i want to know ,what can i do [05:12] hello? === luis__lopez is now known as luis_lopez === Cibort2 is now known as Cibort === r00tz is now known as BrunuoH [05:45] hello ppl [05:45] what's up? [05:45] anyone around? [05:51] Hey I am having an issue with getting my wireless to connect on a new clean install of Kubuntu 10.4.1. Knetworkmanager says network management disabled but it was working right after installation. Best I can tell it cannot get a new IP address lease from the router. I have everything I can think of to do or check here. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/6Fji4uWm [05:52] check /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf [05:52] slackwarebob, yes..lost? this is not slackware :) [05:54] lubun2: no, was going to say if anyone is using kubuntu on net book? [05:55] Do you want something specifica from that file or the whole thing? I do notice that is says Managed=false though [05:55] slackwarebob: i am [05:55] slackwarebob, a lot i think. [05:55] Altusanew: right, change that line [05:56] the netbook edition? or regular kubuntu on a netbook? [05:56] slackwarebob, the 32bit can detect which one to use [05:56] I'm using currently using netbuntu or whatever the gnome one is for networks. it's going pretty good. I just wondered about kde. [05:56] im using netbook edition, but in 10.10 itll all be one installer [05:57] 4.5 has the ability to let you switch between the desktop and netbook UI [05:57] maco: oh cool, so you just use the same installation media and it will detect netbook and put the smaller edition? [05:57] its the same default apps, just different default UI as far as plasma goes [05:57] and different default font sizes i think [05:58] plus probably a lot less services running. [05:58] it picks which to use when you first login based on screen resolution, but you can change it (unlike with ubuntu desktop/netbook where you're a bit stuck) [05:58] the netbuntu has been pretty cool to use. the network UI has been designed nicely. [05:58] ubuntu doesnt have much in the way of services by default...i mean, nothing listening on any services or anything [05:59] honestly, the gnome fullblown would be tough based on screensize. so the netbook edition has been nice. [05:59] I wondered about switching to flux or something. but the netbuntu edition worked very nicely. [05:59] haven't needed to move [06:00] eh if you get rid of one of the panels, gnome's probably not too bad on a netbook... i know some unr users try to get real gnome on there because they dont like the lack of choices in unr... but in kubuntu...well...its kde ;-) you NEVER lack for choices! [06:00] right. like the taskbar arrangement on the netbuntu [06:04] Changed managed=true and rebooted and still doing the same thing. if I run "sudo service networkmanager restart" it crashes knetworkmanager [06:05] boo [06:05] it didnt start working immediately after teh change? had to reboot? [06:05] ...last time I checked, knetworkmanager sucks. [06:05] Lol that is what I was thinking [06:05] did rebooting revert it? [06:05] Diziara: well yeah... thats often true too [06:05] I usually install WICD first thing, when I do a fresh install. [06:05] No it was still changed [06:05] can you start knetworkmanager again now that youve restarted the service? [06:06] knm's actually been working admirably on my netbook.i use network manager plasmoid on my other laptops though [06:06] It's kinda worked when I first installed kubuntu to my laptop, but I had a couple of networks where my laptop would not connect at all until I switched to WICD. [06:06] Yeah the networkmanager restart works and then i run knetworkmanager and it starts back up no issue [06:07] i think when you restarted nm service knm went "oh, service is gone. dont need me anymore!" [06:07] but it doesnt automatically restart itself when nm comes back [06:08] (i dont know how you could ensure that it did either...except maybe to have something polling constantly watching for nm to startup and then launch it with qdbus? thatd be really crappy on resource usage though) [06:08] Yeah that is probably it. So if it is not managed could that be why I am not getting a new IP lease? [06:09] Yeah and I am not even sure I would know how to do that either unless there was some resource for doing just that [06:09] The old lease lists the day and time it stopped working [06:11] i often just delete the old config that was saved in it and make a new one if it gets wonky (i figure corruption or something) [06:12] Delete the old dhclient conf? or old networkmanager conf? [06:14] should dmesg | grep wlan0 have this in it? [ 97.824503] wlan0: no IPv6 routers present [06:14] I get that after I bring up wlan0 and dhclient fails to get a new IP [07:43] * Acido- is away, unf [l/][p/] [07:46] !away > Acido- [07:46] Acido-, please see my private message [07:47] !guidelines > Acido- [09:07] TAIWAN YES [09:07] TAIWAN YES [09:07] youngtin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [09:07] xD === kubuntu is now known as Peace- [09:08] 有人在嗎 [09:08] 有人看得懂中文嗎 [09:08] !cn | youngtin [09:08] youngtin: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw 或者 #ubuntu-hk [09:09] OK [09:09] thx [09:09] np [09:33] I just installed kubuntu and am trying to install software. It says to use adept manager to install new software, but I can not find it [09:34] josh: kpackagekit is the gui one and works just fine [09:35] or use apt-get or aptitude in the terminal [09:35] josh: which version of kubuntu pls? [09:36] josh: keep it in the channel pls - it is not busy here [09:36] !pm [09:36] Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first. [09:36] !guidelines [09:36] The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines [09:45] anybody has tried 'disconnected IMAP' in recent kmail? [10:03] hola [10:04] a dios [10:04] !es [10:04] En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. === phil is now known as Phil_Ewert [10:35] is there other ppl with missing menu entries on dolphin/ kde 4.5.1 ... like panels / terminal emulator and stuff ... simply missing [10:35] same on maverick and the same on lucid with backport ppa kde 4.5.1 [10:48] delight: no, I guess you are missing some package [10:49] bad cd burns perhaps? [10:50] delight: do 'aptitude show dolphin' (without the ') in a konsole, it will show you all the dependencies and recommended packages [10:52] Mamarok: i don't think the packages are missing, cause i can get the terminal-emulator with F4 and the panels (places for example) with F9 [10:52] it's all working but i can't access over the menus [10:52] delight: oh, then it is just a configuration problem [10:52] + i can't have an icon for the terminal-emulator any longer in the toolbar [10:53] do delete the config files for dolphin in $HOME/.kde/share/config/, then try again [10:53] Mamarok: are you using 4.5.1 and you got those in your menus ... well i guess I'll backup dolphinrc [10:53] yes, I am using KDE 4.5.1, and all works fine [10:53] thanks ;) I'll have a closer look @ it [10:53] one more question thou [10:55] on that folder view plasmoid .. for me the mouse over showing a little folder pop-up view is not available any longer ... you have to click on that new arrow on the side ... did you experience the same ... is there a way to get the old behaviour back ? [10:55] I don't use the folder view as a plasmoid, but as an activity [10:55] i see .. ok [10:56] but ou can check the settings of the plasmoid, show tooltips should be available [10:57] unfortunatly not .. i looked over the settings ... [10:58] delight: there is a preview option in the displa section, there ou can choose other preview options [10:58] Mamarok: you where right it was the config file from pre-4.5 making the trouble on dolphin [10:58] thanks for the tipp on that one ;) [10:58] delight: you are welcome :) [11:01] Mamarok: well the only thing is there is no toolbar button on dolphin anymore for the terminal-emulator .. but thats rather minor to me ;) i know my F4 key ;) [11:02] delight: I have it here [11:02] there is only an available toolbar button for "open terminal" which opens konsole [11:03] strange .. i'll recheck in a min ... my gf needs an helping hand :) [11:03] how can i reload the kubuntu panel? [11:11] fedele: do you mean get the default one back? [11:16] are grayscale icons in system tray something kubuntu has added, or this is KDE upstream feature? [11:16] volodya: that is upstream [11:17] so if some application, say 'basket', display color icon, I should report this upstream as well? [11:17] no, since the grayscale ones are for system only, not for apps [11:17] ultimately, the apps wil not be displayed in the system tray anymore, but that is the future [11:17] will* [11:18] ooh. not be displayed? that kinda sucks. [11:18] volodya: displayed yes, but not in the systray anymore, elsewhere I guess, but I don't follow that discussion upstrem [11:19] I imagine the will sue an apptray [11:19] use* [11:19] hi guys [11:19] hi Peace- [11:19] hi Mamarok [11:19] ok, I guess I'll wait for that future; no point reporting a bug if all will change anyway [11:24] hi [11:24] I have a problem building kdelibs [11:24] with nepomuk [11:24] mm [11:25] !compile [11:25] Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first) [11:25] /home/alejandro/kde/kdelibs/nepomuk/types/entity.cpp: In member function ‘virtual bool Nepomuk::Types::EntityPrivate::load()’: [11:25] /home/alejandro/kde/kdelibs/nepomuk/types/entity.cpp:102: error: ‘userVisible’ is not a member of ‘Soprano::Vocabulary::NAO’ [11:25] that is th error [11:25] e [11:26] hi. I'm attempting to install kubuntu 10.10 daily-live from 25th of september but ubiquity kde_ui doesn't start at all [11:26] is there a known issue with it? [11:26] mmm [11:26] i have doewnloaded 10.10 dvd [11:26] and it's working [11:26] but a week ago [11:26] I also tried ubiquity kde_ui from console but it gets back to command prompt without doing anything [11:26] !info kdelibs5 [11:26] kdelibs5 (source: kde4libs): core libraries for all KDE 4 applications. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.4.2-0ubuntu4 (lucid), package size 7220 kB, installed size 29364 kB [11:27] Backglass: ^^ [11:27] Backglass: can syou try this ... [11:27] Peace-: IC, thx [11:27] sudo apt-get build-dep stuff [11:27] or4n9e: that daily live is borken, get a newer one [11:27] broken* [11:27] Mamarok: it's the latest actually [11:27] as of today [11:27] or4n9e: remember it's beta [11:28] don't think it should work [11:28] well, then it is still broken I guess, get the beta and update, that is probably the way to go, but these questions belong on #ubuntu+1 [11:28] Peace-: no worries with betas [11:28] Peace-: it does work fine here [11:28] Mamarok: here too [11:28] the beta I mean, not the daily live [11:28] Backglass: keep it in the channel pls [11:28] Mamarok: ok, will do. I had hoped to get a daily running in order to avoid countless updates but OK [11:28] !pm [11:28] Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first. [11:29] #thanks for the information about broken daily builds [11:29] Backglass: I don't know everything... [11:29] gr8m8: no need to exagerate, I already told him [11:29] Mamarok: sorry - I did what? [11:29] PM? [11:30] I haven't send any PMs actually [11:30] *confused* [11:30] to meee... or4n9e [11:30] nevermind [11:30] or4n9e: it's not about you [11:30] Peace-: IC [11:30] Mamarok: btw, is there an archive of daily builds somewhere? [11:31] and .. do you know what daily still worked before breakage? [11:31] or4n9e: ask in #ubuntu+1, please this really doesn't belong here [11:31] Mamarok: IC [11:31] Mamarok: thx anyways. have a good day [11:31] or4n9e: you are welcome :) === marcin is now known as gurtos [11:33] Backglass: you are making me sorry I tried to help - stop the pms pls [11:34] Mamarok: sorry - I did what? [11:34] gr8m8: my bad, sorry, got confused [11:34] k :] [11:34] gr8m8: ignore him? [11:35] he asked in #kde now [11:35] Mamarok: I have a pretty high tolerance level.. [11:35] :] [11:36] gr8m8: good for you :) your grim smile says otherwise, though :) [11:36] Mamarok: that's me being lazy more then anything else :) [11:37] OK :) === administrator is now known as Guest80596 [11:45] hi everywone [11:46] hi [11:48] hi [11:48] does anywone happen to know a good linux-helper-kinda-blog, something like linuxhaxor? [11:49] Guest80596: it depends on what you want to do.. :) [11:49] i wanna learn linux :) [11:51] Guest80596: I started with the man pages - open konsole, type a and hit the tab button twice - it shows the apps that start with a [11:51] well, i got from a website 10 free linux ebooks that a guy should read [11:51] books are a great start [11:51] http://www.linuxhaxor.net/?p=1699 [11:52] man pages too [11:52] man a [11:52] yeah, in the book that i read now, its telled like once in 3-4 pages to read manuals [11:53] best thing I found out was to have a seperate home partition so if things go wrong a new install takes ~20min and your personal files are still there [11:54] but i actualy come from windows (like 99% of the linux users), and man pages look kinda scary, too hard to understand, so i first wanna read some books, blogs, things like that, where stuff is explained good, so i can make a technical vocabulary [11:55] !clone [11:55] To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate [11:55] im actualy trying to learn to instal ubuntu :) like, i mean, the propper install, where i know wat im doing, not follow a tutorial, or doing it with wubi, so you know a good documentation for that? [11:56] Guest80596: I found I didn't learn much 'till I tried some stuff and broke things - fixing your own errors is the best teacher imo [11:56] !install | Guest80596 [11:56] Guest80596: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate [11:57] lots of options there [11:57] Guest80596: do you know aboput partitions? [11:57] Guest80596: do you know about partitions? [11:58] yeah, i was thinking about just learning from trial and error, but when i was using windows (actualy now i dual-boot), i heard something about that if you dont install windows properly, is a good chance to ruin your hard drive, and stuff like that [11:59] yeah, i have read something about partitions, swap and other stuffs, including something about filesistems [11:59] Guest80596: never heard of that myself - sometimes h/ware fails and folks might attribute that to what they were doing at the time [12:00] i guessed that the thing wasnt true...like, i mean, if that was true, it would be hacker (actualy script-kiddie) heaven...but i didnt want to take chances :P [12:00] I've prob done 50+ installs and never had an issue apart from my own lack of knowledge :] [12:02] Guest80596: if you use common sense the ubuntu distros are about as safe as you can be imo [12:03] if you need to hand in something tomorrow I wouldn't try linux for the first time - but if time is not the issue then go for it - I haven't used windows since 2002 [12:06] well, now im on ubuntu :) so i already started to play a little with linux... but it-s installed via wubi, and i saw on the net that if its installed with wubi its considered like a windows application, or something like that, and it runs slower [12:06] i dont really see myself quiting windows (except if i coul dmake wow to work on my linux box), but linux certainly is worth a try [12:09] Guest80596: wubi is a way to gently introduce ppl to the world of linux - a wonderful app in that regard [12:09] expecialy after you have seen "Hackers" or "Live free or die hard" or stuff like that :P [12:10] yeah, actualy if it wasnt wubi i would get so stuck, and so scared to tinker (so i would not "ruin" the hard drive), that i would quit the idea of trying linux [12:10] Guest80596: if by "wow" you mean world of warcraft -- it's supposedly running very well under wine on linux. [12:10] Guest80596: can I ask why "hackers" comes up so much in your conversation - I use nothing but *nix and have never hacked anything [12:11] Torch: I know, but, as a noob, i dont actualy know how to make it work :P [12:12] Guest80596: that should be a) install wine b) run setup.exe. also, there's #wine. [12:12] g8m8: i actualy dont know why...guess its kind of an inspiration or something...i program, so hacking would be a step farther...i actualy dont know... [12:13] i have wine installed, but i actualy play wow on a pirate server :-" so i dont know how to set up the connection (i mean, realmilst), or anything like that.. [12:15] !tab [12:15] You can use your key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line. [12:16] thanks for that too :) [12:17] so, to be on theme with the channel, can i ask what is the actual difference between ubuntu and kubuntu? [12:18] i only know that kubuntu is on KDE, and it uses less resources [12:20] Guest80596: kubuntu uses kde as the desktop environment and ubuntu uses gnome [12:20] !kde [12:20] KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See http://kubuntu.org for more information. For more information on KDE 4, see !kde4 [12:20] !gnome [12:20] GNOME is the default !desktop environment on Ubuntu. To install it from Kubuntu or Xubuntu, type « sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop » in a !terminal. [12:20] the base is the same [12:21] !info kubuntu-desktopo [12:21] Package kubuntu-desktopo does not exist in lucid [12:21] !info kubuntu-desktop [12:21] kubuntu-desktop (source: kubuntu-meta): Kubuntu Plasma Desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.174.1 (lucid), package size 25 kB, installed size 52 kB [12:21] you can have both installed at the same time and choose one at login [12:22] !info ubuntu-desktop [12:22] ubuntu-desktop (source: ubuntu-meta): The Ubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.197 (lucid), package size 31 kB, installed size 60 kB [12:23] and there are others [12:23] yeah, but you can install KDE on ubuntu too, so that would make it Kubuntu? :) or there are other differences? [12:23] you can have both installed at the same time and choose one at login [12:23] and there are others [12:23] !info lxde [12:23] lxde (source: lxde-common): Meta-package for the Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.0-3ubuntu2 (lucid), package size 5 kB, installed size 36 kB [12:24] so with the one install at login you can choose between lots of desktop environments and window managers [12:25] !info fluxbox [12:25] fluxbox (source: fluxbox): Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.1-6 (lucid), package size 1297 kB, installed size 4144 kB [12:25] it is not like windows where you have no choice [12:28] Guest80596: or if you install ubuntu then kubuntu-desktop and like kubuntu so much you want to get rid of the ubuntu-desktop there is [12:28] !pure-kde [12:29] !pure-kubuntu [12:29] !purekde [12:29] If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE » [12:29] there we go :] [12:29] freedom of choice [12:30] and, the best part, it's free :)) [12:30] I don't know if it's KDE or ubuntu but I can't get direct access to networking from a shell [12:30] hey, i first installed ubuntu and installed the kubuntu packages afterwards. Now i set KDM as my default login manager. For some reason though, kdm seems to take my keystrokes as qwerty while i have an azerty keymap. Is there any way to change this? [12:31] I can access wifi from the kde stuff for example but I can't manually iwconfig it [12:31] the hardest part for most folk is accepting that there is noone telling them how there os should be set up [12:31] I'm having network isuses and I just want to use the comand line tools I know but something is blocking me [12:32] KDE wallet? [12:32] yeah, this is the only part that sucks at this freedom...like you dont know what to choose, and if you wanna start to read the info on everything you can change, you drop it, but the best way is to take it as it comes "from the box", and modify it on the roan [12:32] road * [12:32] Guest80596: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [12:33] sabgenton: you could set the kdewallet password to blank [12:33] Guest80596: agreed [12:34] gr8m8: ok do you really think that would blook me at the shell? [12:34] trichard: what keyboard layout is the default in kubuntu for you? [12:34] gr8m8: I allready tryed deleting the wallet [12:34] gr8m8: Well in settings manager i put it to azerty (belgian point) [12:35] sabgenton: never tried to do anything wireless anywhere ever [12:35] wireless is sooooo slow and sooooo crackable [12:36] wireless is fine [12:36] not being able to access it via the shell is not [12:36] trichard: you've set the gui as azerty but prob not the console [12:37] hmm, let me try that [12:37] if i press ctrl + alt + F3 for a console window it's in azerty too [12:38] sabgenton: you might be right that the gui apps get in the way - how are you trying to access it in cli? [12:40] the same way I do on ubuntu server sudo iwconfig essid whatever [12:40] sabgenton: You might want to kill knetworkmanger and/or NetworkManager [12:40] trichard: then it must be a kdm issue - sorry I've never tried to use azerty ever [12:41] trichard: there's the configs in /etc [12:41] trichard: ah ok will try [12:41] trichard: is there a more proper way to do it ? [12:41] gr8m8: i know, it has a language item but no keyboard layout item [12:41] still that would narrow down the answer [12:41] sabgenton: i think you should just try it indeed [12:41] I don't use any network manager - they're just middlemen [12:41] it might be just knetworkmanager [12:42] I have to reboot my machine to get back in but I think I'll start there [12:49] I still have issues installing kubuntu 10.10. with both the beta and the daily build as of today the ubiquity installer kde_ui doesn't start at all [12:49] also running ubiquity kde_ui doesn't throw out any error messages [12:50] Mamrok suggested the beta after asking for the daily build but I encounter the very same issue again [12:50] any ideas? [12:53] or4n9e: tried in the 10.10 channel? [12:53] !maverick [12:53] Maverick Meerkat is the codename for Ubuntu 10.10, due October 2010 - Maverick is NOT released and NOT Stable, discussion and support in #ubuntu+1 [12:53] gr8m8: not yet, will try [12:53] thanks [12:53] np === luis__lopez is now known as luis_lopez [13:25] most likely solved it [13:25] it's an issue in misc.py ubiquity [13:25] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-installer/ubiquity/trunk/revision/4400#debian/changelog [13:26] just for the record and for others encountering the very same issue [13:33] verified. modify misc.py from he running live session and enjoy a starting ubiquity installer [13:33] huray [13:34] !bug [13:34] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots [13:34] howdy [13:34] !howdy [13:34] Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay! [13:35] heh [13:35] is there an other way to remove plasma widget , except clicking the 'x'? I placed newspaper Activity od desktop and can't remove it... [13:35] sobczyk: right clcik it [13:35] (widgets need ot be unlocked) [13:35] James147: in option there is just "configure..." [13:36] sobczyk: are the widgets locked? [13:36] no [13:37] sobczyk: why cant you click the x then? [13:38] James147: http://img704.imageshack.us/i/newspaperactivitybug.png/ [13:38] I cant click any of the buttons [13:39] :S [13:39] where is the file that holds the widgets on the screen? [13:40] sobczyk: try opening the "add widgets" dialog, i cant quite remember, but I think it had a way to remove all widgets of a type (the - button on that widget)... although that might have been in eailer versions [13:40] sobczyk: if not the widget config is at ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc [13:41]