[00:11] <MaximLevitsky> What happens to launchpad recently?
[00:11] <MaximLevitsky> Can't fill bugs there
[00:11] <MaximLevitsky> It just doesn't respond
[00:18] <MaximLevitsky> when this will be fixed?
[00:18] <BUGabundo> MaximLevitsky: beta or production ?
[00:19] <MaximLevitsky> BUGabundo: what do you mean?
[00:19] <MaximLevitsky> BUGabundo: I seem to be unable to open bugreports on the launchpad
[00:19] <valentino_tuga> hi. i just installed ubuntu 10.10 and i have a problem. after dowloading google chrome installer ubuntu doesnt open debian aplications installer
[00:19] <BUGabundo> are you using EDGE?
[00:20] <BUGabundo> valentino_tuga: use chromium PPA instead
[00:20] <MaximLevitsky> BUGabundo: I don't understand you. I use the 10.20 now
[00:20] <MaximLevitsky> 10.10 that is
[00:20] <BUGabundo> I mean launchpad
[00:20] <valentino_tuga> BUGabundo, what is the command I should use to open debian files?
[00:20] <MaximLevitsky> I don't think so
[00:21] <MaximLevitsky> I used for example
[00:21] <MaximLevitsky> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/
[00:21] <MaximLevitsky> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+filebug?no-redirect
[00:21] <MaximLevitsky> Thanks for ?no-redirect BTW...
[00:22] <cromag> is it possible for me to take an "image" of my current ubuntu install with all it's apps, settings and so on ?
[00:23] <bazhang> cromag, the beta? sure, but not sure why you'd want to
[00:23] <MaximLevitsky> BUGabundo: bugs.edge.launchpad.net doesn't work ether
[00:23] <cromag> bazhang: fresh install, and all is working for me right now :)
[00:24] <cromag> mythtv xbmc etc.
[00:24] <bazhang> cromag, that could change with the next updates though
[00:24] <bazhang> unless you plan on not updating, no real point
[00:24] <MaximLevitsky> BUGabundo: what to do? When that is going to be fixed?
[00:24] <cromag> i dont know yet
[00:24] <cromag> i just know i would like an image IF something fails during an update
[00:24] <cromag> so i can pin out issues maybe
[00:25] <BUGabundo> MaximLevitsky: ask in #launchpad
[00:25] <bazhang> cromag, better to file bugs and image when final is out
[00:26] <cromag> it's also better to take a pee when in a bathroom :)
[00:29] <CT1> nOStahl: Thankyou very much.  chroot worked!   : )
[00:53] <zorael> Are old versions of packages stored someplace? The latest ia32-libs is freaking out on me and I'm looking for the previous version (ubuntu4 as opposed to ubuntu5).
[00:54] <virtuald> /var/cache/apt/archives
[00:55] <zorael> virtuald: Yes, but I cleaned it long since. Are they stored online someplace?
[00:55] <virtuald> not that i know of
[01:14] <albert23> zorael: old packages are available from LP. http://launchpadlibrarian.net/55129435/ia32-libs_20090808ubuntu4_amd64.deb
[01:14] <zorael> albert23: Awesome, thanks :3
[01:15] <litropy> I just want to say thanks, guys. You've got a great OS going here.
[01:40] <litropy> hi, peeps. I'm using a logitech usb headset with jack audio and pulseaudio. how do I get both the speakers and the mic working?
[01:46] <litropy> Transcom message #0011ACDE7425, TXPower: 100% :: Hailing! I have arrived.
[01:47] <gerzel> Litropy: First click on the volume button and go down to prefrences to check to make sure you got the levels turned up enough and nothing's muted for one.  Other than that I'd need to know more about your setup.
[01:48] <gerzel> Off to reboot for Maveric install later
[01:49] <litropy> volume is maxxed, playing lowly through my paltry netbook's speakers. Within pavucontrol I have two outputs: Pulseaudio Jack sink and Simultaneous Output.
[02:17] <DanaG> argh, pulseaudio is being glitchy on my USB sound card.
[02:17] <DanaG> http://pastebin.com/TBmvXTYS
[02:18] <DanaG> W: asyncq.c: q overrun, queuing locally
[02:18] <DanaG> W: ratelimit.c: 1153 events suppressed
[02:20] <DanaG> the W lines are from -v, and the pastebin is from -vvv
[02:57] <aboSamoor> I am trying to install gummi but I get this error gummi : Depends: libpoppler-glib4 (>= 0.12) but it is not installable, any idea ?
[02:59] <ChogyDan> aboSamoor: I always apt-get install the dependency to see exactly what is wrong
[03:00] <aboSamoor> ChogyDan: this is  libpoppler-glib5 what is available in the repos
[03:00] <ChogyDan> ?
[03:30] <RBecker> Hi there, is there a way to make either apt, aptitude, or some command line program force install a previous version and prevent upgrades?
[03:34] <mgunes> RBecker, look up "apt pinning"
[03:35] <elvirolo> hi everyone
[03:35] <elvirolo> my sound applet has disappeared
[03:37] <RBecker> mgunes: From what I read quickly, it looks like it's mixing in unstable, which is not what I want, I just want it to downgrade to a previous version and stay there
[03:37] <RBecker> I know I can prevent upgrades in Aptitude
[03:40] <mgunes> RBecker, you should be able to accomplish that with dpkg --set-selections and --get selections but I don't have documentation links handy; try doing a search for that
[03:41] <delta9> now go to irc.ubuntu.com and join #ubuntu+1 and say skype crashes  upon loading after latest update error here: http://pastebin.com/Q6Yjf1bR
[03:42] <delta9>  skype crashes  upon loading after latest update error here: http://pastebin.com/Q6Yjf1bR
[03:43] <delta9> PM me w/ info please, ty
[03:46] <elvirolo> delta9, download thus
[03:46] <elvirolo> delta9, download this http://mirrors.cytanet.com.cy/linux/ubuntu/archive/pool/universe/i/ia32-libs/ia32-libs_20090808ubuntu4_amd64.deb and install it with dpkg -i
[03:46] <elvirolo> delta9, skype will run after that
[03:46] <delta9> ty
[03:47] <delta9> can i just click it in the gui?
[03:48] <delta9> or do i gotta do dpkg -i in terminal
[03:49] <elvirolo> delta9, no you can click
[03:49] <elvirolo> delta9, i think
[03:50] <elvirolo> delta9, maybe it will refuse to install because it's a downgrade
[03:51] <delta9> dpkg: error processing ia32-libs_20090808ubuntu4_amd64.deb (--install): cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[03:52] <delta9> Errors were encountered while processing: ia32-libs_20090808ubuntu4_amd64.deb
[03:53] <delta9>  sudo apt-get --purge remove skype
[03:53] <delta9> ?
[03:53] <elvirolo> delta9, Hm. I don't know. Try with dpkg.
[03:53] <elvirolo> delta9, worked with me
[03:54] <elvirolo> delta9, you shouldn't need to uninstall skype
[03:54] <DanaG> Say, if I report a bug on something such as projectM-pulseaudio, and it says "nonfree kernel modules: fglrx", does that also include the fglrx version?
[03:54] <delta9> no idea.
[03:54] <delta9> y
[03:55] <delta9> it has to be removed for me to install it
[03:55] <elvirolo> delta9, ok
[03:55] <elvirolo> delta9, does it work now?
[03:56] <delta9> dpkg: error processing ia32-libs_20090808ubuntu4_amd64.deb (--install): cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[03:56] <delta9> Errors were encountered while processing: ia32-libs_20090808ubuntu4_amd64.deb
[03:56] <delta9> dpkg: error processing ia32-libs_20090808ubuntu4_amd64.deb (--install): cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[03:56] <delta9> Errors were encountered while processing: ia32-libs_20090808ubuntu4_amd64.deb
[03:56] <delta9> sorry
[03:56] <delta9> im root
[03:57] <delta9> so i dunno wtf is goin on
[03:57] <delta9> :\
[03:57] <delta9> no
[03:58] <delta9> it still says there is a later version installed!
[03:58] <delta9> root@vaio-laptop:~# apt-get remove skype
[03:58] <delta9> Reading package lists... Done
[03:58] <delta9> Building dependency tree
[03:58] <delta9> Reading state information... Done
[03:58] <delta9> Package skype is not installed, so not removed
[03:58] <delta9> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[03:59] <delta9> it still says i have a later version installed
[03:59] <delta9> wtf
[03:59] <delta9> maybe a reboot?
[03:59] <delta9> brb
[04:00] <elvirolo> delta9, ok
[04:01] <elvirolo> delta9, did you download it properly?
[04:01] <elvirolo> delta9, i mean no errors
[04:11] <elvirolo> delta9, still around?
[04:14] <delta9> can i have that urll again please?
[04:17] <delta9> nm
[04:17] <delta9> still wont install
[04:17] <delta9> wtf this sucks ...
[04:18] <delta9> (<unknown>:3272): Gtk-WARNING **: Loading IM context type 'ibus' failed
[04:18] <delta9> Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-open.c: 612: _dl_open: Assertion `_dl_debug_initialize (0, args.nsid)->r_state == RT_CONSISTENT' failed!
[04:18] <delta9> man ...
[04:19] <delta9> ibus
[04:19] <delta9> and im on 64 bit
[04:19] <delta9> does that matter?
[04:19] <elvirolo> delta9, i'm on 64 bit too
[04:19] <elvirolo> delta9, http://mirrors.cytanet.com.cy/linux/ubuntu/archive/pool/universe/i/ia32-libs/ia32-libs_20090808ubuntu4_amd64.deb
[04:20] <elvirolo> delta9, There must have been a problem during the download process.
[04:21] <delta9> thats the same thing
[04:21] <delta9> nah ..
[04:21] <delta9> i downloaded it twice
[04:21] <delta9> damn
[04:21] <delta9> wtf is wrong.
[04:22] <delta9> im on the 10.10 dystro too
[04:22] <delta9> meerkat
[04:23] <elvirolo> delta9, me too
[04:23] <delta9> wtf ..
[04:23] <delta9> :\
[04:23] <delta9> why am i being punished?
[04:23] <delta9> hah
[04:24] <delta9> the unix gods are angry
[04:24] <delta9> they are smiting me
[04:24] <elvirolo> It's really strange.
[04:24] <elvirolo> You just did "sudo dpkg -i ia32-libs_20090808ubuntu4_amd64.deb" ?
[04:26] <delta9> yeah
[04:26] <elvirolo> delta9, what's the message you get again?
[04:27] <delta9> dpkg: error processing ia32-libs_20090808ubuntu4_amd64.deb (--install): cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[04:27] <delta9> Errors were encountered while processing: ia32-libs_20090808ubuntu4_amd64.deb
[04:30] <delta9> how do i change dir to downloads?
[04:30] <delta9> cd /home/vaio/downloads
[04:31] <elvirolo> Yes.
[04:31] <delta9> root@vaio-laptop:/home/vaio# cd\
[04:31] <delta9> > ls
[04:31] <delta9> cdls: command not found
[04:31] <delta9> root@vaio-laptop:/home/vaio# ls
[04:31] <delta9> Desktop    edk.txt           gangstarr.tar.bz2  Public      Videos
[04:31] <delta9> Documents  examples.desktop  Music              Templates
[04:31] <delta9> Downloads  FrostWire         Pictures           Ubuntu One
[04:31] <delta9> root@vaio-laptop:/home/vaio# cd /downloads/
[04:31] <delta9> bash: cd: /downloads/: No such file or directory
[04:31] <delta9> root@vaio-laptop:/home/vaio# cd /downloads
[04:31] <delta9> bash: cd: /downloads: No such file or directory
[04:31] <delta9> root@vaio-laptop:/home/vaio# cd /home/vaio/downloads
[04:31] <delta9> bash: cd: /home/vaio/downloads: No such file or directory
[04:31] <delta9> root@vaio-laptop:/home/vaio#
[04:32] <bazhang> delta9, pastebin
[04:32] <delta9> sorry
[04:32] <delta9> :\
[04:32] <delta9> i got the error up there
[04:32] <bazhang> doing what
[04:32] <delta9> pasrebin
[04:32] <delta9> i forget the url
[04:33] <elvirolo> delta9, PM
[04:33] <bazhang> pastebin does not mean paste here
[04:33] <bazhang> !paste
[04:33] <delta9> skype crashes  upon loading after latest update error here:  http://pastebin.com/Q6Yjf1bR
[04:33] <tman482> delta9: *nix systems are case sensitive. You used "cd .../downloads" needs to be "cd .../Downloads" according to the output of your /home dir.
[04:34] <bazhang> delta9, skype from ubuntu repositories?
[04:34] <elvirolo> bazhang, yes it's normal
[04:34] <bazhang> !find skype
[04:34] <delta9> http://pastebin.com/Q6Yjf1bR
[04:34] <elvirolo> bazhang, there's a problem with ia32libs
[04:34] <bazhang> elvirolo, sounds like a skype issue
[04:34] <elvirolo> bazhang, no it's not
[04:35] <elvirolo> delta9, you have to do what i told you
[04:35] <bazhang> elvirolo, bug number?
[04:35] <elvirolo> I had exactly the same problem
[04:35] <delta9> yes
[04:35] <elvirolo> bazhang, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/skype/+bug/646862
[04:35] <delta9> thats it
[04:36] <elvirolo> delta9, now do cd /home/vaio/Downloads
[04:36] <delta9> im there
[04:37] <elvirolo> delta9, now ls
[04:37] <delta9> its working!
[04:37] <elvirolo> delta9, Good.
[04:37] <delta9> its installing
[04:37] <delta9> ok
[04:37] <delta9> ima tt=ry to run it
[04:37] <elvirolo> delta9, what about skype?
[04:37] <delta9> running app now hold on
[04:38] <delta9> installing skype
[04:38] <whereami> What does "no module name found" on the console mean? seems to be from grub2?
[04:39] <delta9> weird
[04:39] <delta9> it works but stilll has errors
[04:39] <delta9> lemme see if it works
[04:43] <elvirolo> delta9, is it working?
[04:48] <delta9> yes
[04:48] <delta9> ty
[04:48] <delta9> :)
[04:48] <delta9> well
[04:48] <delta9> i need to skype someone
[04:48] <delta9> to find out
[05:40] <whereami> okay, I finally got my system installed and running... but it's stupendously slow.
[05:41] <whereami> I think it has something to do with disk access.
[05:41] <whereami> maybe sata driver
[05:41] <whereami> any way I can test that?
[05:42] <freeaks> hi there
[05:43] <freeaks> in maverick, how can i force booting in text mode ?
[05:43] <freeaks> the old tricks like these:
[05:43] <freeaks> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=”quiet splash text“
[05:43] <freeaks> and
[05:44] <freeaks> update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[05:44] <freeaks> don't seem to work with maverick, so matter what i do, gdm gets launched..
[05:45] <freeaks> tpo:  *no matter what ....
[05:45] <freeaks> typo
[05:46] <Amaranth> freeaks: mv /etc/init/gdm.conf /etc/init/gdm.conf-disabled
[05:47] <freeaks> aah great i'll try that now, thanks Amaranth
[05:47] <freeaks> i alway hated all display manager (xdm,gdm,kdm ...)
[05:48] <lubun2> freeaks, you can use the recovery mode
[05:49] <freeaks> lubun2, i want to alway start in terminal mode
[05:50] <freeaks> so i'd want to set it as default boot mode
[05:50] <freeaks> when i need X, i simply do startx
[06:00] <nOStahl> there we go, update-manager -d running
[06:01] <nOStahl> 50 min on download
[06:10] <freeaks> Amaranth, tnx it worked
[06:22] <whereami> I'm getting exceptions from the kernel sata driver on my system. Could this be a driver problem?
[06:26] <bullgard4> whereami: I believe so, yes.
[06:40] <whereami> otoh, even grub is really slow to load...
[06:40] <whereami> grub takes like 15 seconds to load.
[06:41] <bullgard4> whereami: In that case your system is not well configured or has a bug.
[06:42] <whereami> so, where do I start?
[06:42] <bullgard4> whereami: Reading the dmesg
[06:42] <whereami> that's where I saw the sata exceptions.
[06:43] <bullgard4> whereami: You better feed Google with the exact wording of your SATA exception dmesg message.
[06:44] <bullgard4> whereami: Enrich it with your operating system version and computer type in order to narrow down the Google output.
[06:47] <whereami> is there a way to get ubuntu to boot more verbosely?
[06:47] <whereami> it's dropping me into a terminal without telling me why.
[06:48] <whereami> and then i discover the filesystem is mounted readonly.
[06:49] <whereami> hmm, i wonder if this dell datasafe local backup thing messed with more than grub. maybe I'll try reinstalling again.
[06:50] <whereami> then again, the install disk is really slow too.
[06:50] <bullgard4> whereami: As far as I know, there are few possibilities to gmake Ubuntu Maverick more verbose while booting beyond dmesg. Some messages appear on a virtual terminal at the very beginning.
[06:51] <bullgard4> s/gmake/make/
[06:52] <bullgard4> whereami: dmesg should tell you why Ubuntu is dropping you to a virtual terminal.
[06:53] <whereami> it doesn't.
[06:54] <bullgard4> whereami: I am not familiar with Dell's data safe local backup. Interferences with Ubuntu should refelct in dmesg though.
[06:54] <bullgard4> reflect
[06:54] <whereami> I don't know why you say that... dmesg is just the kernel message buffer.
[06:56] <bullgard4> whereami: Wikipedia 2007-06: "dmesg (for "diagnostic message") is a command on Unix-like operating systems that prints the message buffer of the kernel. This buffer contains a variety of important messages. They range from messages printed during boot to messages used for debugging software."
[06:57] <whereami> I'm acutely aware of what dmesg is...
[06:57] <bullgard4> whereami: It is my continued experience from 4 years usage of Ubuntu that it will reflect in dmesg.
[07:24] <TiK> hi
[07:24] <TiK> anyone else have issues w/ skype after this latest update?
[07:24] <TiK> it crashes with this error:
[07:24] <TiK> Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-open.c: 612: _dl_open: Assertion `_dl_debug_initialize (0, args.nsid)->r_state == RT_CONSISTENT' failed!
[07:30] <TiK> hopefully someone knows
[07:40] <TiK> :(
[07:48] <bullgard4> Who needs Keyboard_Input_Methods?
[07:50] <bullgard4> TiK: (I do not use Skype.) Look in Launchpad. If you do not find this error message there, file a bug report there.
[07:52] <TiK> ok
[07:52] <TiK> just happened on the new update
[07:52] <TiK> ill check launchpad
[08:06] <TiK> bull: I saw the bug listen but there were no work arounds :(
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. heres a bit of a scary message to see when upgrading...
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> Removing all DKMS Modules
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> /usr/sbin/dkms: line 28: echo: write error: No space left on device
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> but I got plenty of space.
[08:09] <nOStahl> heh
[08:10] <nOStahl> my netbook is doing an upgrade right now and 0 percent left on the 4 gig ssd / partition heh
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> tmpfs is showing 100% - but thats always 100% isent it?
[08:10] <nOStahl> but its still chugin along unpacking
[08:11] <Dr_Willis> actually it seems stuck at  that removeing... stuff...
[08:11] <nOStahl> gah, I keep feeling a bluetooth headset on my ear... but I go to take it off and there's nothing there...
[08:11] <nOStahl> damn this modern age!
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> I cen never find any that fit me nOStahl  -  they always fall off.
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> BlueEar Headset :)
[08:13] <bullgard4> TiK: In that case add you findings to the bug already reported.
[08:13] <bullgard4> s/you/your/
[08:13] <TiK> oops
[08:13] <TiK> I was in activity
[08:13] <TiK> I just have to revert the lib32 package
[08:13] <TiK> :)
[08:14] <TiK> thanks
[08:14] <TiK> for the point
[08:14] <TiK> btw 10.10 rocks :O
[08:16] <bullgard4> TiK: I find it faster than Ubuntu 10.04 on my machine although I have not made any objective measurement.
[08:16] <bullgard4> s/it/it is/
[08:17] <nOStahl> what was that new login thing
[08:17] <nOStahl> the animated frame buffer?
[08:19] <TiK> ive ran it for a while and  had no issues before the update/skype
[08:20] <TiK> i never use logins ;)
[08:20] <TiK> oct 10th baby
[08:23] <bullgard4> Is Natty the codename for Ubuntu 11.04?
[08:25] <nigelb> !natty
[08:27] <bullgard4> nigelb: Thank you.
[08:37] <bullgard4> Why has the loadable linux kernel module 'fbcon' disappeared? Is this due to Linus' recommendation to put more essential functionality into the kernel?
[08:46] <i_is_broke> does gparted come on the live disk?
[08:49] <catweazle_> i_is_broke: from the daily-builds manifest it is in the live-cd
[08:49] <i_is_broke> thank you
[08:53] <m4rtin> where and how should I report a bug in Maverick?
[09:05] <bullgard4> m4rtin: In Launchpad in the associated DEB Program package.
[09:07] <m4rtin> bullgard4: yes, apologies, found the link now
[09:07] <m4rtin> does the installer have it's own package?
[09:08] <bullgard4> m4rtin: There are several "installers". Be more specific.
[09:09] <m4rtin> bullgard4: Desktop and Alternate install CDs won't boot on a specific hardware configuration unless ACPI=off is specified
[09:09] <m4rtin> I assume this hardware config just needs to be added to some blacklist to auto determine this
[09:17] <bullgard4> m4rtin: You will probably end up in your command '~$ ubuntu-bug linux'.
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. this is getting scarier now..
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> cp: writing `/tmp/mkinitramfs_gcoM2f/scripts/./local-bottom/ntfs_3g': No space left on device
[09:19] <Dr_Willis>  / is 50% full...
[10:03] <Jordan_U> whereami: Could you follow the directions here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/441941/comments/161 (add a comment to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/441941 )
[10:30] <faizaff> HI! I was directed to this channel for help! I had an accidental shut down while upgrading to "Maverick" Now I am unable to boot pl help!
[10:32] <faizaff> The screen is blank! and nothing happens!
[10:33] <delight> is there other ppl with missing menu entries on dolphin/ kde 4.5.1 ... like panels / terminal emulator and stuff ... simply missing
[10:33] <u456503> faizaff: do you install 10.04 from a CD ?
[10:33] <delight> same on maverick and the same on lucid with backport ppa kde 4.5.1
[10:34] <faizaff> I upgraded it from command _d
[10:34] <Dr_Willis> does the 'recovery' mode entry at teh grub menu get you to a console faizaff  ?
[10:34] <faizaff> Yeah I had on my hard disk 10.4 initially but I had given the cd to a friend
[10:34] <u456503> faizaff: ok, upgraded too
[10:34] <Dr_Willis> shutdown while upgradeing = not a good thing...
[10:35] <faizaff> No nothing except the grub entries for other os is shown, when you click ubuntu everything is silent
[10:36] <u456503> faizaff: did you installed the ubuntu 10.04 from a CD ? do you have one ?
[10:36] <faizaff> Not now but I can make one from ISO
[10:36] <u456503> faizaff: ok make one
[10:36] <faizaff> Than?
[10:37] <u456503> faizaff: and boot from it
[10:37] <faizaff> Tell me so that I do it all after getting the CD
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> faizaff:  so basucally while upgadeing from 10.04 to 10.10 you had a power failure?
[10:37] <faizaff> RE-Install!
[10:37] <faizaff> Yes right!
[10:38] <u456503> faizaff: if you do not have any important data, just install it
[10:38] <bazhang> faizaff, you have backups?
[10:38] <Dr_Willis> faizaff:   use live cd. to backup imporntant files.. reinstall.. thats the best answer.
[10:38] <christophoros> guys whats the best way to learn linux? am using ubuntu for like 4 years but i never got into command thing
[10:38] <Dr_Willis> christophoros:  get books on bash, read... reread them every few months..
[10:38] <bazhang> !manual > christophoros
[10:39] <bazhang> !bash > christophoros
[10:39] <Dr_Willis> christophoros:  i alaways check out bookstore bargin bins for books on sale that cover the command line, or other aspects of linux.
[10:39] <Dr_Willis> christophoros:  and yes. i have a Large library of books. :) many are avail in ebook form now a days.
[10:40] <christophoros> yeh thats what i thought ill get an ebook
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> christophoros:  books on , bash, vi/vim, sed/awk/grep, regular expressions,  then other topics you may like.
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> christophoros:  it depends on what specific topics you want to learn first
[10:40] <bazhang> christophoros, webupd8 has a link to 20 free linux ebooks
[10:41] <christophoros> fr sirst id like to get know basics and then go somethink deaper
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> christophoros:  some ebooks are the old versions and can be a little out of date.. but the 'core' info should still be the same.
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> know basics.. of what. :)
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> when in doubt. start with bash. then perhaps regular expressions.
[10:42] <christophoros> alrighty :)
[10:42] <Dr_Willis> Learning the bash Shell: Unix Shell Programming (In a Nutshell (O'Reilly)
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> keep an eye out for any thing by Oreilly in the bargin bins. :)
[10:45] <christophoros> http://www.amazon.com/Learning-bash-Shell-Programming-Nutshell/dp/0596009658
[10:46] <christophoros> ill understand this book if i get it ?
[10:48] <ItsYou> nice question :)
[10:49] <christophoros> as i told am a bigginer :)
[10:49] <zooloo> hi, i use Maverick Meerkat anf after today's updates skype don't work anymore
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> start reading... read it later a few months afterwards.. go back a year later...
[10:49] <zooloo> (<unknown>:3950): Gtk-WARNING **: Loading IM context type 'ibus' failed
[10:49] <zooloo> Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-open.c: 612: _dl_open: Assertion `_dl_debug_initialize (0, args.nsid)->r_state == RT_CONSISTENT' failed!
[10:49] <zooloo> what should i do?
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> christophoros:  i go back and reread the books after 5 years and then rediscover things i just fiured out... they are also referance books. not just 'learners guides'
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> zooloo:  i get same error here.
[10:51] <christophoros> cool :) alrighty :) thanks alot downloading it now hehe
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> christophoros:  for ebooks. i have a collection of them i always put in my Documents directory on every new install. :)
[10:51] <zooloo> Dr_Willis: 64-bit?
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> some are very out of date
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> zooloo:  yes. 64bit.
[10:52] <zooloo> u have reported a bug?
  ill start get some and read them hope i manage
[10:53] <christophoros> in my country there isnt any school of learning u unix-linux
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> School? :0 i learned it all from books
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> when i went to school we were using C64's
[10:55] <christophoros> wow i just saw all the book from oreilys this guy has lot of them
[10:56] <Dr_Willis> I try to actually buy the real books.. so  i can read them in the 'reading room'
[11:22] <christophoros> guys what u think about upgrating in kubuntu? it will cause any problems to my sys /?
[11:23] <zooloo> Dr_Willis: thing is skype crashes on virtualbox windows as ell
[11:23] <zooloo> well*
[11:23] <zooloo> ;]
[11:24] <om26er> !audio
[11:25] <om26er> where is volume control?
[11:26] <Machtin> om26er: maybe alsamixer is what you're looking for?
[11:28] <om26er> ubottu, this factoid needs to be changed
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> !fixapt
[11:35] <vega_> some known prob with nvidia drivers, i just get blinking green/red/blue screen when gdm starts
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> full screen blinks red then green then blue? or what exactly?
[11:36] <vega_> yes
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. still trying to figure out....
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> Building initial module for 2.6.35-20-generic
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> /usr/sbin/dkms: line 28: echo: write error: No space left on device
[11:37] <vega_> also sometimes full screen with red, blue, green and grey bars on top of each other :)
[11:37] <vega_> console/ssh access is fine
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> weird.. cleaned out all the dkms-* dirs in /tmp/ and it worked..
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> at least i think it worked.. :)
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> vega_:  what chipset?
[11:40] <vega_> ion
[11:40] <vega_> (ie. 9400m)
[11:40] <vega_> it workin in beta1 or beta2
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> check the bug reports.. could be some regression i guess.
[11:45] <vega_> just googled, nothing so far.. is there a quick link to list all bugs open reported for maverick, in priority order?
[11:50] <SwedeMike> hm, so my thinkpad t40 which has worked just fine during all of the 10.10 cycle now has non-functioning graphics after just now doing a dist-upgrade. Last time I did it was 2 weeks ago.
[11:52] <SwedeMike> pressing fn-f7 (to cycle thru external/internal screen showing) makes it come back again, goes away when logging in, then have to do it again. I have no external screen connected.
[11:53] <SwedeMike> it has a radeon mobility 7500, but no accelerated drivers available (never has been any in ubuntu)
[11:55] <u456503_> SwedeMike: did you try other kernels ?
[11:56] <SwedeMike> no. -20 worked fine, then a lot of things were distupgraded, the kernel to -22 amongst others.
[11:56] <SwedeMike> I can try the -20 kernel
[11:56] <SwedeMike> if I can find the button to reboot with, my graphics is quite garbled :P
[11:56] <u456503_> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.36-rc5-maverick/
[11:57] <u456503_> install linux-headers-2.6.36-020636rc5_2.6.36-020636rc5.201009211328_all.deb first, then
[11:58] <SwedeMike> -20 doesn't work either, it did before, so I don't think it's kernel related.
[11:58] <u456503_> 	linux-headers-2.6.36-020636rc5-generic_2.6.36-020636rc5.201009211328_i386.deb or the 64 bit one !
[11:58] <u456503_> then
[11:58] <SwedeMike> but I can try that one
[11:59] <u456503_> 	linux-image-2.6.36-020636rc5-generic_2.6.36-020636rc5.201009211328_i386.deb or the 64 bit one
[11:59] <u456503_> I am running from it
[11:59] <SwedeMike> ok, I'll try that.
[12:01] <u456503_> you can select at boot time the kernel
[12:01] <SwedeMike> I've been using linux since 1993, don't worry.
[12:03] <SwedeMike> behaviour is identical wit hthe rc 2.6.36-rc5 kernel.
[12:04] <SwedeMike> garbled screen at bootup, fn-f7 makes it come back, login, garbled screen again, fn-f7 makes it ok again
[12:05] <u456503_> are you sure ? you can test that quick ?
[12:05] <SwedeMike> yes?
[12:05] <SwedeMike> why not?
[12:06] <u456503_> you need to reboot after instaled the latest kernel
[12:06] <SwedeMike> yes?
[12:06] <SwedeMike> uname -a says I'm running 2.6.36-rc5
[12:08] <u456503_> then send an email to linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org with the dedails: kernel, gpu, and problems
[12:09] <SwedeMike> why are you so focused on this being a kernel problem? 2.6.35-20 that worked before doesn't work anymore.
[12:09] <SwedeMike> I'd imagine more something with xorg
[12:09] <u456503_> can you try an older kernel ?
[12:10] <penguin42> SwedeMike: How early is this happening - before or after X starts?
[12:11] <SwedeMike> penguin42: screen is fine during the boot loader etc (the ubuntu with 5 balls under it), then when xorg starts to give me the login screen, everything goes garbled
[12:11] <penguin42> SwedeMike: OK, And the text console is fine?
[12:11] <SwedeMike> penguin42: I can switch to text mode yes, but it seems to be unstable, sometimes the keyboard stops working after a few swtiches.
[12:12] <SwedeMike> ctrl-alt f1 works at least once
[12:12] <penguin42> SwedeMike: Tried booting with no mode setting?
[12:12] <SwedeMike> trying f7-f8 or around there makes the machine stop responding totally (no caps lock or anything)
[12:13] <SwedeMike> I'll boot with nosplash and without quiet and let's see
[12:13] <penguin42> SwedeMike: I'd try adding a nomodeset
[12:14] <SwedeMike> oki, removed splash and quiet, included nomodeset, with 2.6.35-22 it works fine first try.
[12:14] <SwedeMike> login worked fine as well.
[12:14] <SwedeMike> everything looks completely normal.
[12:15] <SwedeMike> I'll try with just adding nomodeset and keeping splash
[12:15] <penguin42> SwedeMike: So kernel or X bug with mode setting
[12:16] <SwedeMike> heh, the text mode splash looks very retro... but yeah, that works as well.
[12:18] <SwedeMike> this is a lab laptop I have, so sep 11 everything worked normally (last time I booted it before today, did dist-upgrade then and rebooted, everything was fine). then booted today, did dist-upgrade, rebooted, then got this issue.
[12:20] <SwedeMike> anything else I should try before packing up? I don't think it's a kernel issue, I trued 2.6.35-17, -20 and -22, and 2.6.36-rc5 and they all behaved identically.
[12:21] <penguin42> SwedeMike: I'd say it's difficult to guess whether it's X or the kernel; the two interact heavily; report it
[12:22] <SwedeMike> should I log it against the kernel or against xorg?
[12:22] <SwedeMike> or against something else?
[12:22] <SwedeMike> would it help if I filmed the bootup and attached it?
[12:23] <penguin42> SwedeMike: I doubt the film would help, if you just have a screenshot of the corruption it should do; I'd file a bug against xserver-xorg-video-radeon   and that should end up in the right place
[12:23] <penguin42> even if it's not the X server the guys who do the kms stuff I think are on the saem lists
[12:23] <SwedeMike> oki, I'll do that.
[12:24] <penguin42> SwedeMike: There are 2 other things you could try; you could try the xorg-edgers packages or you could mail the radeon mailing list (cam't remember the URL)
[12:26] <SwedeMike> as in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1476691 for xorg-edgers?
[12:26] <penguin42> Yep
[12:26] <SwedeMike> will do.
[12:26] <penguin42> well, https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[12:26] <penguin42> SwedeMike: But, since it works with nomodeset then I'd just report it
[12:28] <SwedeMike> penguin42: oki.
[12:30] <penguin42> SwedeMike: Just remind me, which card?
[12:31] <SwedeMike> penguin42: radeon mobile 7500
[12:32] <SwedeMike> radeon mobility 7500 according to lspci
[12:32] <penguin42> ok, so yeh older Radeon
[12:32] <SwedeMike> yes, it's a 5 year old thinkpad
[12:32] <penguin42> nod
[12:54] <or4n9e> I have issues installing kubuntu 10.10. with both the beta and the daily build as of today the ubiquity installer kde_ui doesn't start at all
[12:54] <penguin42> or4n9e: What's the last thing you see ?
[12:54] <or4n9e> also running ubiquity kde_ui from consoledoesn't throw out any error messages
[12:54] <or4n9e> penguin42: nothing happens. I click on the installer and it never pops up
[12:55] <penguin42> oh
[12:55] <or4n9e> the console just returns to command prompt without doing anything
[12:55] <or4n9e> same in daily build as of today and the beta
[12:55] <or4n9e> is this a known issue?
[12:56] <or4n9e> I mean, I use linux for ten years and shouldn't be too silly to run an installer ;)
[12:56]  * penguin42 hasn't tried the kde one, but yeh you'd hope it worked
[12:57] <or4n9e> penguin42: it's pretty strange that neither the GUI nor the CLI method throws out any errors but just dies
[12:58] <or4n9e> also I cannot find any hints on the internet (bug tracker, forums etc)
[12:58] <penguin42> or4n9e: Had a look through bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu?
[12:58] <or4n9e> gnome version works great but the GF prefers KDE, no idea why but that's it
[12:58] <or4n9e> penguin42: I googled for it
[12:58] <penguin42> or4n9e: If you can install gnome then just install the kubuntu-desktop package after the gnome install
[12:59] <or4n9e> haven't found anything related. may try to search the bug tracker directly
[12:59] <penguin42> or4n9e: You could also try reporting the bug with ubuntu-bug ubiquity
[12:59] <or4n9e> penguin42: nope :) why should I install an obsolete gnome desktop just to get kde up and running
[12:59] <or4n9e> this isn't an option to me
[12:59] <penguin42> or4n9e: Oh I'm not saying it's a good answer, but if you need to get KDE to install it should work
[13:00] <u456503_> I have a question: does somebody here have build the kernel ?
[13:00] <penguin42> u456503_: Yeh
[13:00] <or4n9e> penguin42: I may first try the alternate installer
[13:00] <penguin42> or4n9e: Yeh that should work
[13:00] <or4n9e> this should have come to my mind earlier actually
[13:01] <u456503_> ok, how did you manage the  not in control info error ?
[13:01] <penguin42> the what error?
[13:02] <or4n9e> penguin42: is it possible to run the alternate from usb
[13:02] <or4n9e> I have an EeePC here
[13:03] <penguin42> or4n9e: I'd hope so, but not tried it
[13:03] <penguin42> u456503_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile  were the instructions I followed
[13:04] <or4n9e> penguin42: same here, that was never required actually
[13:04] <u456503_> i will do that,
[13:05] <or4n9e> I also wonder why such an outstanding bug (isn't it my own mistake) haven't been recognized for hardly a month
[13:05] <u456503_> thanks for the info
[13:05] <or4n9e> will search thebug tracker now
[13:05] <penguin42> or4n9e: I think there is a #ubuntu-kde you could ask on
[13:06] <or4n9e> penguin42: I asked in #kubuntu, they sent me here
[13:06] <or4n9e> is #ubuntu-kde a developer channel?
[13:06] <penguin42> or4n9e: OK; there are a couple of KDE users here (JonTheEchidna and I think Yofel??)
[13:07] <or4n9e> penguin42: #ubuntu-kde requires an inviation :)
[13:07] <h4f> after some updates. the bottom panel stops showing open window and running programs. I deleted the panel. how can I restore it back ?
[13:07] <or4n9e> penguin42: IC, then I'll wait for them to actually show up
[13:07] <or4n9e> thanks again
[13:07] <penguin42> or4n9e: No problem
[13:09] <u456503_> penguin42: ups, that is super old info, thanks, but I think this one is ok: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/GitKernelBuild
[13:09] <or4n9e> penguin42: seems we have the candidate https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/646827
[13:10] <u456503_> penguin42: try it yourself
[13:10] <u456503_> penguin42: you will get an error
[13:10] <or4n9e> penguin42: but not really helpful besides "fix committed" without any hints given
[13:10] <penguin42> u456503_: Hmm useful page; although the page I used worked!
[13:10] <or4n9e> hm
[13:11]  * or4n9e wants to install kubuntu please ;)
[13:11] <penguin42> or4n9e: If it's committed then I guess it'll probably land in the next daily or so
[13:11] <or4n9e> penguin42: is it possible to somehow see the fix?
[13:12] <or4n9e> I mean, that way I may fix it myself within the running live session
[13:12] <penguin42> or4n9e: Not sure; I suspect if ubiquity is maintained in bzr you could grab the the bzr repository for it and look at the change log
[13:12] <Ejdesgaard__> I'm having problems sending e-mail's to my companys domain, but it works everywhere else.. i'm running 10.10, evolution-2.30.3 and evolution-mapi-0.30.3 on x86_64. and a colegue how runs 10.04 and otherwise the exact same setup, do not have the problem.
[13:12] <or4n9e> penguin42: good idea. I'm actually not that advanced with launchpad but I'll try to find out
[13:14] <or4n9e> penguin42: this is the right resource https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-installer/ubiquity/trunk ?
[13:14] <or4n9e> cause I can't see any commits regarding the bug iD
[13:14] <penguin42> or4n9e: Probably, but I'm not used to the web interface
[13:15] <penguin42> or4n9e: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-installer/ubiquity/trunk/revision/4400
[13:16] <penguin42> or4n9e: So you could probably edit those 2 lines in misc.py and get the installer to carry on
[13:16]  * penguin42 notes that diff viewer is nice
[13:16] <or4n9e> penguin42: awesome stuff man !!!
[13:16] <or4n9e> just need to find misc.py now
[13:17] <or4n9e> I love fiddling around actually
[13:18] <penguin42> hmm, 1:20pm; time for breakfast :-)
[13:19] <or4n9e> penguin42: very ambitious to have breakfast at 1:20pm
[13:19] <or4n9e> lol
[13:20] <u456503_> penguin42: have a good time
[13:21] <u456503_> at breakfast
[13:32] <or4n9e> penguin42: guess what?
[13:32] <or4n9e> penguin42: it works! thanks a million
[13:32] <Ian_corne> :D
[13:33] <Ian_corne> I'm saying goodbye to testing on my ati box :(
[13:33] <Ian_corne> I need a stable system to work on this last year!
[13:41] <Bauldrick> I cant see my samba shares via 'places' > 'network' , but I can if I connect via 'places' > 'connect to server'
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> Bauldrick:  samba/smb/widnwos is weird in that often it can take some time for the shares/machines to show up.
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> Bauldrick:  i tend to access them once, then bookmark the location.
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> Bauldrick:  or enter 'smb://servername/sharename' by hand.
[14:01] <penguin42> Ian_corne: What ati card?
[14:03] <GMSPENCE____> can anyone help....i upraded to maverick, and now for my remote desktop i cannot acess my computer remotely on the network....says others can access this computer using the address localhost.....used to show up the ip on my network on lucid.  any suggestions?
[14:03] <Ian_corne> penguin42: it's not that it's unstable atm
[14:03] <Ian_corne> but I can't take any chances :)
[14:03] <Ian_corne> and it's my only ati testing machine, that's why I named it specificly
[14:03] <penguin42> Ian_corne: The open drivers seem to be getting better for me
[14:03] <Ian_corne> yeah, I haven't had a problem so far :)
[14:04] <penguin42> Ian_corne: I've had a few fixes over the maverick alpha cycle though
[14:04] <Ian_corne> well, I don't utilize my gfx card that much on ubuntu, maybe that's why I didn't notice :)
[14:04] <Ian_corne> except for the freeze of the login screen
[14:04] <Ian_corne> but well, that still wasn't fixed :p
[14:06] <penguin42> oh great, initramfs screwed up again -  I think by an updae running update-initramfs while udev is unconfigured
[14:30] <homerj> there anything else I should be aware of installing 10.10 beta on a laptop that's not listed in the "known issues" ?
[14:31] <Ian_corne> homerj: that you should backup your files
[14:31] <homerj> no files to back up on it
[14:31] <homerj> heh
[14:34] <homerj> A lot of USB 3G cards currently just expose themselves as a CD drive instead of a modem. To fix this, please upgrade your system to get udev version 161+git20100827-1, which should fix this. <---this happens on Windows as well, nice to see Ubuntu actually fixed it
[14:34] <Ian_corne> anyone know if there's a rhythmbox ppa?
[14:35] <pbp> is there a way to disable bluetooth by default(on boot), but keep the applet on the panel?
[14:35] <penguin42> homerj: Apparently there is a thing so that they are supposed to auto-install on windows systems; ubuntu now has a thing to kick them out of this mode
[14:35] <homerj> yeah, that's was the idea, but it will never kick out of that mode
[14:36] <homerj> have a Verizon one
[14:36] <bazhang> Ian_corne, not sure about rhythmbox, but there's a rhythmbox-elementary one
[14:36] <homerj> for the Win7 laptop to actually use it, I have to "eject" the cd rom it makes
[14:38] <Volkodav> anybody noticed skype crashing right at sign in ?
[14:40] <Volkodav> oh knows bug
[14:47] <rerx> hi! on kubuntu maverick, i don't get sound in flash, but apparently everywhere else
[14:47] <rerx> the flash player doesn't show up in pavucontrol
[14:48] <rerx> "everywhere else" = amarok, vlc, mplayer
[14:48] <rerx> any ideas?
[14:49] <penguin42> rerx: In any web browser?
[14:49] <rerx> in firefox or rekonq
[14:49] <rerx> I've put this into my .asoundrc:
[14:49] <rerx> pcm.pulse {
[14:49] <rerx>     type pulse
[14:49] <rerx> }
[14:49] <rerx> ctl.pulse {
[14:49] <rerx>     type pulse
[14:49] <rerx> }
[14:49] <rerx> pcm.!default {
[14:49] <rerx>     type pulse
[14:49] <rerx> }
[14:50] <rerx> ctl.!default {
[14:50] <bazhang> rerx, pastebin
[14:50] <rerx>     type pulse
[14:50] <rerx> }
[14:50] <rerx> sorry
[15:17] <GMSPENCE____> can anyone help....i upraded to maverick, and now for my remote desktop i cannot acess my computer remotely on the network....says others can access this computer using the address localhost.....used to show up the ip on my network on lucid.  any suggestions?
[15:18] <penguin42> GMSPENCE____: ok, do you know your address?
[15:19] <GMSPENCE____> Penguin42 - yeah 192.168.1.2
[15:20] <GMSPENCE____> i've set it up with a static ip
[15:20] <penguin42> GMSPENCE____: OK, so that's static on your local network, can other machines on the localnetwork connect to that IP for remote desktop?
[15:20] <GMSPENCE____> if i log in via ssh and run x11vnc in the terminal i can connect.... but not when it's set to connect via the gui in preferences
[15:20] <quidnunc> Does anyone have dovecot with passdb working? It fails to lookup the users in my password file.
[15:20] <GMSPENCE____> penguin42 - nope no one can connect
[15:21] <quidnunc> I want to know if it is just me
[15:21] <penguin42> GMSPENCE____: Yeh that looks broken to me
[15:35] <penguin42> rerx: OK, flash has stopped doing sound for me as well
[15:35] <penguin42> (Gnome)
[15:39] <penguin42> hmm it is now, but it's not using pulse
[15:39] <rerx> penguin42: i've got an external usb sound "card"
[15:40] <penguin42> rerx: I don't think that's the problem; I've got on an onboard; I think the shim that used to cause flash to use pulse has broken in the last week
[15:40] <rerx> on kubuntu lucid i only get sound with that one in apps using phonon
[15:41] <rerx> that's why i decided to try the maverick beta
[15:41] <penguin42> rerx: If you open a terminal and do     pasuspender /bin/cat       and leave that like that, and then reload the page with flash in does it work
[15:41] <rerx> where they switched kubuntu to pulseaudio
[15:42] <rerx> penguin42: no, that doesn't work
[15:42] <penguin42> ok
[15:42] <rerx> also, before i was using an onboard chip on lucid and got sound everywhere
[15:43] <rerx> sound in linux really always has been annoying
[15:45] <penguin42> rerx: In your .xsession-errors do you see an error like:   ALSA lib ../../src/conf.c:3288:(snd_config_hooks_call) Cannot open shared library libasound_module_conf_pulse.so
[15:45] <Volkodav> anybody boots freebsd with grub2? I wonder if it recognizes it ot manual editing is needed ?
[15:47] <nOStahl1> gah,
[15:48] <nOStahl1> i've downloaded over 7 ISO's between netbook version and desktop versions of maverick meerkat
[15:48] <nOStahl1> they all fail at booting up the live environtment with " No init found. Try passing init= bootarg.
[15:48] <nOStahl1> and drops me to busybox initramfs
[15:48] <nOStahl1> any idea's?
[15:49] <penguin42> nOStahl1: Did you write the ISO to a cd or use a thumbdrive?
[15:49]  * penguin42 just filed bug 647538 on flash sound stopped working
[15:51] <nOStahl1> sd
[15:51] <skalka> hi, I was just wondering if plymouth will ever work with nvidia proprietary drivers, with Maverick Beta is still impossible to have a decent splash screen
[15:51] <penguin42> nOStahl1: Is the SD card in an sd reader in the PC or an external USB thing?
[15:52] <bazhang> skalka, what card
[15:52] <skalka> bazhang, 8400M GS
[15:52] <bazhang> skalka, the open source driver works great here
[15:53] <nOStahl1> pc
[15:53] <bazhang> very high res
[15:53] <skalka> bazhang, can you suggest me a quick way to give a try to open source driver? I've installed proprietary when ubuntu prompted me on first desktop start
[15:54] <bazhang> skalka, remove it?
[15:54] <skalka> bazhang, then? Just restart and I'll have nouveau?
[15:55] <bazhang> skalka, should do, though I never used it so cannot speak from experience (ie having only used the open source one)
[15:56] <skalka> with open source driver is it possible to set visual effects to normal? after the restart how i can check which driver is on use?
[15:56] <skalka> i look for nouveau on lsmod?
[15:57] <rerx> penguin42: yes. it reads: "ALSA lib ../../src/dlmisc.c:236:(snd1_dlobj_cache_get) Cannot open shared library /usr/lib32/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_pulse.so
[15:57] <rerx> ALSA lib ../../../src/pcm/pcm_hw.c:1401:(_snd_pcm_hw_open) Invalid value for card"
[15:57] <penguin42> does that file exist for you?
[15:58] <skalka> anyway, I try, see you soon
[15:58] <rerx> penguin42:  /usr/lib32/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_pulse.so is there
[15:59] <penguin42> rerx: curious it's complaining about a different file for both of us, but the file both exists
[15:59] <penguin42> rerx: I don't actually know if that's the problem but it feels suspicious
[16:00] <rerx> penguin42: i've no idea
[16:00] <rerx> also i already had those issues with the maverick installed from the beta-iso before i installed any updates
[16:03] <penguin42> you might want to subscribe to my bug 647538  although whether your symptom is due to the same thing I don't know - sounds suspicious
[16:07] <skalka> ok, now I'm without proprietary driver... splash screen is fine, but there no support at all to 3d and I can't check card temperature
[16:12] <Ddorda> hey guys, where can i report bug about maverick?
[16:12] <penguin42> Ddorda: Sure
[16:12] <penguin42> Ddorda: The easiest way is to use the ubuntu-bug command
[16:13] <Ddorda> penguin42: ? where
[16:13] <penguin42> Ddorda: Have you got maverick running?
[16:13] <Ddorda> i talk from it
[16:14] <penguin42> Ddorda: Great, what's the bug
[16:14] <Ddorda> penguin42: i don't know what package is it from
[16:14] <penguin42> Ddorda: OK, describe it
[16:15] <Ddorda> penguin42: I use 2 languages, Hebrew & English. sometimes it starts switching between these 2 with no reason
[16:15] <Ddorda> no way to stop it but logging out and back in
[16:15] <penguin42> Ddorda: Oh difficult bug, difficult to know where it happens
[16:15] <penguin42> Ddorda: Does it do it in any one application or all of them?
[16:15] <Ddorda> sometimes it stops when i open a new program
[16:16] <Ddorda> all of them
[16:16] <Ddorda> no specific application
[16:16] <penguin42> Ddorda: KDE or Gnome?
[16:16] <Ddorda> Gnome
[16:17] <Ddorda> and gets even worse if i'm idle at that time and the screensaver starts working
[16:17] <Ddorda> cause than i can't do the password
[16:17] <Ddorda> because of that language bug
[16:18] <penguin42> Ddorda: I suggest reporting it against libgnomekbd-common ?
[16:18] <Ddorda> penguin42: okay. thanks :)
[16:19] <penguin42> Ddorda: I'm not sure if it's right, but it sounds promising
[16:20] <Ddorda> g2g
[16:44] <penguin42> is the person who was having audio problems on kde/flash still here?
[16:47] <shazzr> is it a known issue on 10.10 beta that google chrome doesn't work? I get "Attempting to load the system libmoon
[16:47] <penguin42> shazzr: That sounds like a plugin problem
[16:47] <shazzr> penguin42: hmm...I get it both with chrome and chromium
[16:48] <penguin42> shazzr: Try removing libmoon (and that'll probably take out all of moonlight )
[16:48] <shazzr> penguin42: it also says "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"
[16:48] <elijah> Awesome!!! Wifi works again after the most recent updates today!
[16:49] <penguin42> shazzr: Try removing libmoon and see if it fixes it
[16:49] <elijah> Thanks and good job guys!
[16:49] <shazzr> penguin42: will do
[16:50] <shazzr> penguin42: it did the trick.
[16:50] <penguin42> shazzr: You could file a bug against libmoon
[16:52] <shazzr> penguin42: never done it, and therefore I don't know where to start, or what to write. :S
[16:52] <penguin42> shazzr: Open a terminal and do   ubuntu-bug libmoon
[16:52] <penguin42> shazzr: In the description say what happens
[17:02] <shazzr> penguin42: Thanks. I can hereby declare that I filed my first bug report. I feel like I'm contributing. It's a good feeling. Thanks to you. :)
[17:02] <penguin42> shazzr: No problem; some get fixed as well; I've had a whole bunch of them fixed in the Maverick release since alpha - but there are others that haven't but hey
[17:10] <nemchik> hello, i am in need of some help with maverick beta, is this the right place to ask?
[17:14] <nemchik> anybody alive in here?
[17:15] <penguin42> maybe
[17:15] <penguin42> and yes it is the right place to ask - what's the problem
[17:15] <nemchik> okay so let me try to be as detailed as possible
[17:16] <nemchik> i initially installed 10.04 via livecd (usb key) later i followed the update pattern to 10.04.1, and then i decided to try maverick
[17:16] <penguin42> ok
[17:16] <penguin42> did 10.04.1 all work OK?
[17:17] <nemchik> yes, it's been a dream
[17:17] <nemchik> i visited the maverick page, ran the alt f2 command and let the update take its course (desktop 32bit standard edition btw)
[17:18] <nemchik> i then checked the software centre and all of the ppa's i had were disabled and didnt seem to want to re-enable so i removed them and began manually readding them (so the keys would update and the branch would change)
[17:18] <penguin42> nemchik: Hang on a sec
[17:18] <penguin42> nemchik: Did the update to maverick without the ppas work?
[17:18] <nemchik> yes, it seemed to work
[17:18] <penguin42> ok
[17:19] <penguin42> so then you put some PPAs back in and.....
[17:19] <nemchik> obviously it was a beta, so there were some things i expected (hardware compatibility issues i was working around)
[17:19] <nemchik> somewhere along the line it discovered an update (i think indicator-network / connman) that asked me to remove some packages in order to do the update
[17:20] <nemchik> i was using indicator-network and connman on 10.04.1 btw
[17:20] <nemchik> worked fine
[17:21] <nemchik> after restarting i get the ubuntu loading screen but it never goes anywhere, so i tapped a key and noticed it always hangs on 'detecting battery' (that might not be the exact phrase but it's the battery step)
[17:21] <nemchik> oh right, before that i get the '
[17:22] <nemchik> low res graphics prompt asking me to continue in low res, or reconfigure or restart x
[17:22] <nemchik> then the battery hang
[17:22] <nemchik> if from the prompt i decide to go to terminal i can login and run commands etc
[17:23] <nemchik> but i have no network connection (eth0 seems to be present with ifconfig -a but does not pull an ip)
[17:23] <nemchik> and when i try to start gdm it says i need to install it
[17:23] <nemchik> apt-get style
[17:23] <nemchik> but with no network connection i cant lol
[17:23] <nemchik> so im running a livecd right now so i can get support
[17:24] <elijah> My mic input on my laptop is very low and distorted with Meerkat beta (same with 10.04), is my soundcard supported? What would the driver be for my soundcard?
[17:25] <nemchik> i have the ISO files for 10.10 and 10.04.1 both accessable, would there be a way to reinstall maverick and pull the files from the iso?
[17:27] <nemchik> elijah: does 'hardware drivers' seem to have any optional sound drivers?
[17:28] <penguin42> nemchik: Hmm that's a bit of a mess, what happens if you select a different kernel or the safe mode entries from teh boot menu ?
[17:28] <elijah> nemchik: Do you mean "Additional Drivers"?
[17:28] <elijah> I'm using kubuntu
[17:29] <nemchik> elijah: oh, sorry im not familiar with kde lol, i would suppose that would be the equiv
[17:29] <penguin42> nemchik: Also when you boot try taking off the quiet and splash keywords - it might give you a bit more info
[17:29] <elijah> nemchik: Just NVIDIA and a software modem are listed there
[17:29] <nemchik> penguin42: oh... son of a bitch... i didnt think to try that, but right now i think it's disabled and defaulted
[17:30] <nemchik> penguin42: let me see what my grub has to play with, but i dont think i have any other kernels because i used ubuntu tweak to 'clean kernels' (not smart on my part)
[17:30] <penguin42> nemchik: If you can get back to a text shell then I'd try and run ppa-purge to remove all the ppa stuff
[17:31] <nemchik> penguin42: what would be the command for that?
[17:31] <penguin42> nemchik: ppa-purge
[17:31] <penguin42> nemchik: It's in the ppa-purge package I think
[17:33] <nemchik> penguin42: ok i see i have grub and it SHOULD have a 10 second timeout but it has never shown me a menu, just the graphical ubuntu loading dots screen
[17:33] <penguin42> nemchik: New ones don't have much of a timeout; hit left shift *right* after the bios
[17:34] <nemchik> elijah: you should google your laptop's specific model and find what sound device usually comes with your model and then search for linux drivers for that device - also try different microphones and play with yout audio input settings - maybe find a fridend with a usb headset just to make sure that it's your onboard device with the issue
[17:35] <penguin42> elijah: Try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[17:36] <penguin42> elijah: Chances are that you have the correct driver if you are getting any sound but it needs some forceful tweaking; the laptop vendors have various options of how to wire the chips up and sometimes they do very odd things
[17:38] <nemchik> penguin42: so do you think there is a decent way to get eth0 to start pulling an IP? because since GDM is missing i would assume i will need to reinstall it but cant without eth0 working (or if theres a way to pull it from the iso which i have locally)
[17:38] <nemchik> lo still shows 127-etc like normal
[17:39] <penguin42> nemchik: I'd know how to manaually configure it, I don't know how to drive NetworkManager from the command line
[17:40] <penguin42> nemchik: I suspect nmcli eth0 up might do it - but I've never tried it
[17:41] <elijah> penguin42: Going through guide now
[17:41] <nemchik> otherwise connman cuz i have that installed (i may have had networkmanager disabled but it should be easy to re-enable
[17:42] <nemchik> if i remember correctly all i did was rename the .conf to disable it (connman install instructions)
[17:43] <penguin42> don't know conman
[17:43] <nemchik> no worries, i re-enabled NM
[17:45] <nemchik> this might actually be easier than i am making it sound - simpler question that should solve my problem, is there a way to repair an existing linux install from a livecd?
[17:46] <penguin42> nemchik: It depends exactly how broken it is, you can install packages
[17:47] <nemchik> i can run debs but apt-get fails because there is no network connection, it only has a cached list of what is available
[17:52] <penguin42> yeh, so you can mount a filesystem from the rescue cd and chroot into it and run apt or dpkg -i, or you can download .debs and drop them either into the filesystem or onto a usb key
[17:52] <Ologn> Hmm...did quadrapassel (tetris) break for everyone recently, or just certain Maverick users?
[17:53] <Ologn> If anyone can go to Applications -> Games -> Quadrapassel and tell me if it will load or not, it would be appreciated
[17:53] <Ologn> I'm getting the same error as someone on launchpad, but they are using X11 forwarding, I'm just doing it straight out
[17:53] <penguin42> Ologn: Broken here
[17:53] <Ologn> penguin42: OK, thanks
[17:54] <penguin42> Ologn: Got a bug for it? I'll confirm it
[17:54] <Ologn> penguin42: bug 638013
[17:55] <penguin42> Ologn: I think this is separate ; although actually his bug may well be the same bug, I don't think it's got anything to do with forwarding
[17:55] <charlie-tca> Ologn: it is broken
[17:56] <Ologn> charlie-tca: OK.  Thanks, now I know the breakage is more widespread, instead of just a few people.
[17:56] <charlie-tca> Might be bug 561734
[17:56] <iTroll> so guys, maverick beta does not boot on my acer aspire 751h.  Doesnt appear to even get to grub2.  Any debugging ideas?
[17:59] <Ologn> Because I played the game a few weeks ago and it worked, but I've been doing the updates and presumably one broke something.
[18:00] <charlie-tca> I haven't been able to make it work in maverick
[18:03] <penguin42> iTroll: If you hold down left shift right after the bios do you get grub2?
[18:03] <nemchik> penguin42:  i chrooted into it but i dont know what debs to install lol
[18:04] <penguin42> nemchik: If you've chrooted in then mount /proc and /sys, and install ppa-purge and use that to remove your ppas, then install ubuntu-desktop which will force it to have all the default ones
[18:06] <nemchik> this seems to show up a log
[18:06] <nemchik> *lot
[18:06] <nemchik> sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu
[18:06] <nemchik> but i think i have ppa purge installed but i didnt mount proc or sys
[18:07] <penguin42> nemchik: Copy /etc/resolv.conf from your /etc on your live setup to /etc/resolv.conf in your chroot
[18:07] <penguin42> that way it'll do dns look up
[18:09] <nemchik> do i need to restart network manager after that?
[18:10] <nemchik> btw i ran sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/repair/etc/resolv.conf
[18:10] <nemchik>  /mnt/repair is where i mounted and chrooted
[18:11] <penguin42> shouldn't need to restart anything
[18:12] <nemchik> well i did that and apt-get update and it seems to be doing more than before so i would assume that may have been all i needed to get eth0 to pull an ip again, hopefully apt-get install ubuntu-desktop works
[18:13] <penguin42> nemchik: Didn't you bring the ethernet up from before you chrooted ?
[18:13] <nemchik> uh... i donno what you mean
[18:13] <nemchik> it works on the livecd but it didnt work on my hd install
[18:16] <nemchik> well i didnt purge the ppa's (cuz i had like 50... and i would have to do them one by one) but installing ubuntu desktop seems to be going well for now
[18:16] <nemchik> looks like its grabbing gdm and stuff
[18:16] <penguin42> nemchik: Why you got so many ppas ?
[18:17] <nemchik> cuz i like software lol
[18:17] <nemchik> a lot
[18:17] <nemchik> i live to test
[18:17] <nemchik> but i didnt really take into consideration that unstable software doesnt usually screw me over as much as an unfinished OS
[18:18] <nemchik> which was probably conflicting with all the dev software i was playing with lol
[18:18] <nemchik> anyway installing ubuntu-desktop has completed, anything else you would recommend before i try to boot into it?
[18:19] <penguin42> nemchik: Well give it a go and see, if you still have problems I'd pull out any systemish ppas
[18:19] <nemchik> nautilus elementary?
[18:19] <nemchik> btw i get this during apt-get update - W: GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com maverick Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 16126D3A3E5C1192
[18:20] <nemchik> and also btw penguin42 you are a godsend
[18:21] <penguin42> Well we'll see if it worked!
[18:23] <penguin42> the mix of bug statuses on that quadrapessel bug is great
[19:49] <edgy> Hi, when I try to comple my program using make I get /usr/bin/ld: final link failed: No space left on device
[19:49] <edgy> but $ df -hT .
[19:49] <edgy> Filesystem    Type    Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[19:49] <edgy> /dev/sda6    btrfs     15G   13G  2.1G  86% /home
[19:49] <edgy> is this a bug in maverick or what?
[19:50] <penguin42> hmm interesting, someone earlier said they had that problem with a kernel module build
[19:50] <penguin42> edgy: Can you do a df /tmp
[19:50] <edgy> penguin42: /dev/sda5             17134420  12316160   3947860  76% /
[19:50] <penguin42> hmm, not that then
[19:51] <edgy> penguin42: yes. this is the second time I have this problem. previously I am copying files and I got that error I thought may be I am sleeping and dreaming but now i am very awake ;)
[19:52] <edgy> penguin42: did that guy also using btrfs?
[19:52] <penguin42> edgy: Don't know
[20:00] <edgy> np
[20:05] <brett__> HellO!
[20:05] <brett__> How stable is 10.10 netbook?
[20:09] <nemchik> penguin42: hey thank you again
[20:09] <penguin42> nemchik: np - is it working?
[20:10] <nemchik> penguin42: i got back to my desktop but my video drivers are missing and not in the hardware thing so im installing from a .run file
[20:10] <nemchik> or rather i will be soon
[20:10] <penguin42> well that's video drivers :-)
[20:11] <nemchik> im trying to find a copy of the default sources.list file for maverick
[20:39] <avi_> Hey all. Now that the Maverick Xorg and Kernel get along with fglrx, any reason I SHOULDN'T upgrade right now on my desktop (with fglrx)? Like, any outstanding problems? (Or perhaps a link to a page that lists known maverick bugs) Thanks!
[20:39] <bjsnider> since when is fglrz working with maverick?
[20:40] <avi_> Yesterday, I think.
[20:40] <avi_> I'll link you up, hold on.
[20:41] <avi_> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/09/fglrx-finally-works-with-ubuntu-1010.html
[20:47] <whereami> The install disk is only running in VGA mode... can I fix this? I have a radeon HD 5870.
[20:58] <MTecknology> I just finished with ecryptfs-migrate-home. After a reboot, I need to log in from command line, run ecryptfs-unmount-private, then I can log in from gui...
[21:01] <MTecknology> Any ideas how I can make it work right?
[21:40] <duffydack> openshot in maverick, cool
[21:58] <blue_anna> after upgrading from 10.04 to maverick totem and mplayer have broken. vlc still works though
[22:05] <pvandewyngaerde> blue_anna:  do you see any error messages if you start them from a terminal ?
[22:08] <blue_anna> I think I just figured it out trying that .. my x11 video settings arent right
[22:09] <blue_anna> I had to remove my old xorg conf to get startx to work at all, I just forgot
[22:10] <slooksterpsv> Hello fellow Maverik Meerkat Users
[22:11] <slooksterpsv> so with Maverick Meerkat, should I not run sudo apt-get upgrade? cause that messed up my system last time
[22:13] <slooksterpsv> wow no one chats in here, that's pretty bad
[22:13] <penguin42> slooksterpsv: That should be OK; when doing an upgrade to maverick or the next version you should run do-release-upgrade , but for normal updates after switching version apt-get upgrade should be fine
[22:13] <penguin42> bah, missed
[22:14] <duffydack> patience fail
[22:21] <guntbert> MTecknology: did you configure your system to autologin?
[22:31] <blue_anna> I am getting this error trying to install and play lincity-ng: lincity-ng: error while loading shared libraries: libphysfs-1.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[22:31] <blue_anna> I already have libphysfs1 package installed, and lincity-ng installed without issue
[22:34] <MTecknology> guntbert: no
[22:34] <guntbert> MTecknology: ok, did you follow the steps outlined at the end of the migration?
[22:35] <MTecknology> guntbert: attempt to log in and if it doesn't work then copy the original files back
[22:36] <MTecknology> guntbert: those, or did i miss something?
[22:37] <guntbert> MTecknology: I meant those, and obviously you *did* record the passphrase
[22:37] <MTecknology> guntbert: we'll say I did...
[22:38] <MTecknology> guntbert: I can log in, run ecryptfs-mount-private and it'll mount my home directory fine - I do that, then I can use ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase - so I do have that pass
[22:38] <guntbert> I'm in the process of following your steps right now and stumbled over autologin ... but rebooting right now
[22:38] <guntbert> MTecknology: thats why I said obviously :-)
[22:40] <guntbert> MTecknology: after switching off autologin it worked flawlessly - on lucid :-) I still have to try it on maverick
[22:41] <MTecknology> I'm on +1
[22:41] <MTecknology> the encryption worked perfect, mounting it works perfect, it just doesn't auto-mount
[22:42] <MTecknology> I don't need device-mapper in the kernel for it, do i?
[22:43] <guntbert> MTecknology: not to my knowledge - btw how did you invoke the script?
[22:44] <duffydack> it uses /dev/mapper though does it not
[22:45] <duffydack> well mine does
[22:45] <MTecknology> gave root a password, logged out, logged in as root, ran ecryptfs-migrate-home -u michael, logged in as michael, ls, saw the two files, ran ecryptfs-mount-private, gave it my user password, cd, see my data
[22:45] <MTecknology> duffydack: I know it does for encrypted swap
[22:46] <duffydack> udisks-luks-uuid-22bc65a2-7d7e-44ea-a262-6df9d7dba3b7-uid1000    < my usb stick with enc partition on
[22:46] <guntbert> MTecknology: ah, there is the difference: on lucid I was able to log in immediately after the migration without any need for manually mounting
[22:47] <MTecknology> luks definitely uses device-mapper
[22:47] <MTecknology> guntbert: I think it's supposed to work like that in maverick too
[22:47] <guntbert> MTecknology: I guess so - I'm gonna try
[22:48] <duffydack> I have a netbook with enc home partition (made during install) I Can check.
[22:48] <Veliouras> hello, i just  installed 10.10 on a netbook but i do not have a menu and i can not work with programs, i just see a photo on my desktop. help please
[22:48] <MTecknology> I wonder if I need CONFIG_DM_CRYPT..
[22:49]  * MTecknology is recompiling
[22:51] <Veliouras> hello, i just  installed 10.10 on a netbook but i do not have a menu and i can not work with programs, i just see a photo on my desktop. help please
[22:51] <goodmami> hi, i installed maverick a few days ago, and it seems to have installed translations for en_gb, en_au, en_za, etc., when all I wanted was en_us. I think I selected "English" as the language and a US timezone. Is this expected?
[22:54] <guntbert> MTecknology: I just tried it on maverick daily - only difference to your procedure was that I created another user and sudoed from there - immediately after the migration I was able to login and the home was mounted
[22:56] <duffydack> I have upgraded lucid to maverick with no issues, that had encrypted home.. btw
[22:58] <MTecknology> wasn't device_mapper support... granted I can do encrypted swap now
[22:59] <guntbert> duffydack: i think MTecknology  suspected the script to be faulty  - it works here
[23:00] <MTecknology> guntbert: I don't think it's 'faulty' I think I'm just missing something and clueless as to what it is
[23:02] <guntbert> MTecknology: as I said, the only difference was that I used a second user but I cannot imagine how that could lead to your situation...
[23:06] <MTecknology> guntbert: that's not the only difference between our systems though
[23:08] <guntbert> MTecknology: on second thoughts: as the instructions only said: "log in" and not "log in and give the passphrase" you *could* have seen that something was amiss :-)
[23:08] <MTecknology> guntbert: i did
[23:09] <guntbert> MTecknology: I agree that there may be other differences too - my system is a nearly untouched (apart from the updates) beta
[23:09] <MTecknology> mine is a command line install
[23:39] <guntbert> MTecknology: did you see  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ecryptfs-utils/+bug/623708 ß
[23:43] <MTecknology> guntbert: hm.. seems that he logged in once without it mounting - used it, then mounted - that would cause the extra directories