| === cyphermox_ is now known as cyphermox | ||
| * nigelb waves | 03:35 | |
| Pendulum | hi nigelb | 03:36 |
|---|---|---|
| nigelb | heya Pendulum :) | 03:37 |
| * duanedesign waves at nigelb | 03:42 | |
| nigelb | duanedesign: heh, have you no sleep? :p | 03:42 |
| duanedesign | nigelb: just about to saw somw logs :) | 03:45 |
| duanedesign | s/somw/some | 03:45 |
| * nigelb goes to look for jussi's wedding stream | 03:48 | |
| maco | what time? | 03:51 |
| maco | nvm. Pendulum says 1pm jussi-time = 7am maco&pen time | 03:52 |
| nigelb | its evening for me I think | 03:52 |
| nigelb | jussi is at UTC+1:00? | 03:53 |
| Pendulum | nigelb: UTC+2:00 | 03:53 |
| nigelb | ok, 1530 or 1430 for me. Unsusre | 03:54 |
| maco | 8 hours from now | 03:55 |
| maco | (well 8 hours & 5 minutes) | 03:55 |
| nigelb | ok, thats 1630 :) | 03:56 |
| nigelb | tea time! I can just grab somwthing to eat and watch it :D | 03:56 |
| nhandler | AlanBell: Any bugs that you are up for fixing in lernid would definitely be appreciated | 05:03 |
| nigelb | you know you've been spending too much time on ubuntu websites when you type flickr.ubuntu.com | 05:09 |
| czajkowski | morning | 06:04 |
| nigelb | mornin laura :) | 06:05 |
| pleia2 | nigelb: haha | 06:06 |
| nigelb | pleia2: :) | 06:06 |
| nigelb | pleia2: I mean,we even have maps.ubuntu.com | 06:07 |
| pleia2 | I didn't know about that one | 06:07 |
| pleia2 | actually I did but I forgot | 06:08 |
| czajkowski | nigelb: ello ello | 06:08 |
| nigelb | czajkowski: had a good trip yesterday? :) | 06:09 |
| czajkowski | yup | 06:09 |
| czajkowski | day 11 | 06:09 |
| czajkowski | now | 06:09 |
| nigelb | day 11 of? | 06:09 |
| czajkowski | sorry 2 | 06:10 |
| czajkowski | lordie i may need more sleep | 06:10 |
| czajkowski | oh well | 06:10 |
| nigelb | heh | 06:11 |
| czajkowski | my conference | 06:11 |
| nigelb | aaah :) | 06:11 |
| czajkowski | popey daviey adn tony are on their way over | 06:11 |
| nigelb | the one with msft | 06:11 |
| nigelb | oh wait, barcamp | 06:11 |
| czajkowski | yes | 06:12 |
| maco | <nigelb> pleia2: I mean,we even have maps.ubuntu.com <--- we do? *goes to look* | 06:12 |
| nigelb | maco: beee around for some time | 06:13 |
| vish | maco: been there for a while now.. | 06:13 |
| nigelb | *been | 06:13 |
| nigelb | 1630 today should be fun :) | 06:13 |
| vish | i guess more than a month or two.. | 06:13 |
| nigelb | after kim0 joined | 06:14 |
| czajkowski | nigelb: follow @ossbarcamp or #ossbc | 06:14 |
| nigelb | ohhh,new twitter is nice! | 06:20 |
| jussi | 4.5 hours from now for all of you wondering what time the wedding is | 06:40 |
| jussi | laters | 06:40 |
| maco | jussi: good morning :) happy wedding day! | 06:40 |
| czajkowski | jussi: best of luck | 06:40 |
| jussi | gulp. Thanks!!! | 06:40 |
| nigelb | jussi: omg | 06:46 |
| nigelb | jussi: you geek! go get married | 06:46 |
| czajkowski | hmm time for some nikita | 06:48 |
| czajkowski | oops | 07:08 |
| nigelb | poor popey | 07:09 |
| nigelb | "Spoke too soon. Our plane is broken. On stand whilst they get an engineer. Balls." | 07:09 |
| czajkowski | adlo | 07:15 |
| AlanBell | good luck jussi! have a great day | 07:36 |
| AlanBell | nigelb: just seen the comonwealth games site photos on the BBC, it does indeed look a bit of a mess /o\ | 08:04 |
| nigelb | AlanBell: HUGE Mess. They're going to pay for this crap | 08:04 |
| nigelb | India has been put to fun now. | 08:05 |
| AlanBell | London will struggle to be ready for the Olympics, but I think they will keep throwing money at it and make it happen | 08:06 |
| nigelb | AlanBell: Its not the lack of money. Its the amount of money that went to the pockets of the people involved that's make us ashamed | 08:08 |
| nigelb | at least that's one statistic we'll always top up | 08:08 |
| nigelb | AlanBell: for example, threadmills were "rented" for 40 days at more than it would cost for buying them from Harrods | 08:09 |
| vish | AlanBell: Indians tend/like to be fashionably late ;) | 08:53 |
| duanedesign | morning all | 11:02 |
| duanedesign | nigelb: vish i had to unsticky the Cleansweep and Papercut threads on the Forum. The papercut had almost 3,000 views and the Cleansweep 2,000 | 11:05 |
| vish | duanedesign: cool, thanks.. but why unsticky? just wondering.. ;) | 11:07 |
| duanedesign | vish: had to make room for new Stickies | 11:08 |
| vish | ah! | 11:08 |
| duanedesign | i think Open Week volunteer thread prompted the discussion | 11:09 |
| duanedesign | vish: we can do another one after awhile if you want. Maybe we can do one in Development and Programming asking for bug fixers | 11:10 |
| vish | duanedesign: yea, we can look into it later | 11:13 |
| * vish just discovered that nautilus backgrounds can do gradients! | 11:14 | |
| duanedesign | vish: that reminds me. i had a project i started a long time ago. It was on an abandoned project called Weather Wallpaper. Displayed different wallpaper depending on the weather | 11:17 |
| duanedesign | ...i should finish that | 11:17 |
| vish | duanedesign: thats an interesting idea..! | 11:19 |
| vish | duanedesign: heh, this nautilus backgrounds thing i just noticed by accident! | 11:21 |
| vish | i was dropping different colors and suddenly noticed a gradient! | 11:21 |
| vish | it seems that if we drop the color either at the top/bottom or left/right it forms a gradient.. | 11:22 |
| * duanedesign goes to look :) | 11:22 | |
| akgraner | AlanBell, do you have the URL to your slides and I'll add them to the Calendar | 13:41 |
| nigelb | maco2: PING | 14:26 |
| Pendulum | nigelb: I suspect she is asleep | 14:27 |
| nigelb | Pendulum: I suspect so too, but this for her to reply back later | 14:28 |
| nhandler | akgraner: Can you send me a list of sessions that have slides along with their URLs? I am trying to maintain an archive of all classroom slides | 14:30 |
| nhandler | nigelb: It also helps if you provide some context in your 'ping' so she can reply even if you are away | 14:30 |
| nigelb | nhandler: that's already there in PM :) | 14:30 |
| nhandler | :) | 14:31 |
| * vish wonders why wouldnt "that pm" ping someone ;p | 14:31 | |
| akgraner | nhandler, I don't have any as of right now | 14:32 |
| === maco2 is now known as maco | ||
| nigelb | lol http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/bizarre_cathedral_72 | 16:07 |
| duanedesign | nigelb: ibuclaw just posted that in #ubuntu-beginners :) | 16:12 |
| nigelb | duanedesign: heh, I picked it off his fb wall :p | 16:12 |
| nigelb | also lol http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/bizarre_cathedral_67 | 16:22 |
| * nigelb waves to crabbytag :P | 16:35 | |
| AlanBell | akgraner: when I write the slides you will be the first to get the URL | 16:42 |
| paultag | nigelb, heyya buddy | 16:43 |
| nigelb | paultag: hey there! | 16:43 |
| paultag | nigelb, how goes? | 16:43 |
| nigelb | paultag: oh, not bad. Was a boring day. Brightened up thank to FB :P | 16:45 |
| paultag | nigelb, :) | 16:45 |
| AlanBell | nigelb !! | 16:48 |
| nigelb | AlanBell: haha | 16:48 |
| AlanBell | just checked my facebook you nutter | 16:49 |
| nigelb | haha, I thouught so | 16:49 |
| nigelb | paultag: haha, good one :p | 16:49 |
| paultag | nigelb, as always, I need to keep it classy | 16:49 |
| nigelb | AlanBell: Now that I think of it, I should have done this after UDS, more LOLs definitely | 16:49 |
| paultag | nigelb, maco, For some reason, even though my religion is Pastafarianism I get "MEET HOT CHRISTIAN SINGLES IN YOUR AREA!" on facebook. It's real lame. | 16:50 |
| nigelb | paultag: HAHAHAHA | 16:50 |
| maco | hahaha | 16:51 |
| paultag | You'd think there would be some kind of constraint | 16:51 |
| paultag | Ooop, now it "Mafia Wars" "Hunting Survival Straps" and "Meet your fantasy girl" | 16:51 |
| paultag | This is why I love adblock | 16:51 |
| * maco went through and marked every weight loss ad that came up as "offensive" | 16:51 | |
| paultag | "Meet cute, hot, and pretty girls online now! Find your dream girl - meet her LIVE in video chat. Click here!" | 16:52 |
| paultag | maco, did it work? | 16:52 |
| nigelb | hahaha | 16:52 |
| maco | yes, now it just gives me free software ads :) | 16:52 |
| nigelb | maco: heh, meet hot free software developers in your area? :p | 16:52 |
| paultag | nigelb, I don't think I'll be meeting my wife over a webcam dating service. thanks but no thanks | 16:52 |
| paultag | nigelb, ahahahahaha | 16:52 |
| paultag | I want that ad, please | 16:52 |
| nigelb | paultag: hahah | 16:52 |
| maco | the weight loss ads for women are not like "if you want to..." they're like "YOURE FAT! LOSE WEIGHT NOW" | 16:53 |
| nigelb | haha | 16:53 |
| paultag | maco, but don't you know! this is America! If you don't look like barbie then you're not acceptable! | 16:53 |
| paultag | maco, let's not even care that a person of that size would not be able to walk, it's pretty! | 16:53 |
| maco | paultag: in that case, i need a rack to stretch me to her height, not to lose weight :P | 16:53 |
| paultag | hahaha | 16:53 |
| maco | also, to have my feet surgically altered to only fit high heels | 16:54 |
| nigelb | wait, barbie is fat? | 16:54 |
| maco | nigelb: no, she's over 7 feet tall | 16:54 |
| paultag | +1 | 16:54 |
| nigelb | 4 feet coming from the heels? :p | 16:54 |
| paultag | She'd have like a D bra as well | 16:54 |
| Pendulum | maco: you'd also have to get used to crawling on all fours, correct? | 16:54 |
| maco | Pendulum: paultag already mentioned the impossibility of standing at those dimensions | 16:54 |
| Pendulum | ah, missed that :-/ | 16:55 |
| paultag | I think last time it was worked out, her waist size was so small it would cause huge issues with walking | 16:55 |
| nigelb | paultag: oh lol http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/bizarre_cathedral_21 | 16:55 |
| Pendulum | paultag: D is a lot smaller than Barbie | 16:55 |
| maco | paultag: eh, D bras are more common than people think... well... at least when ya wear the right size | 16:55 |
| nigelb | maco: but a barbie matching waist to go with it most probably aint that common (impossible?) | 16:55 |
| paultag | Pendulum, maco, I have not the first clue about lady's undergarments. All I have for knowledge are the details of the ex-ms. paultags | 16:55 |
| maco | paultag: mmm maybe if she had a corset on she could walk? | 16:55 |
| paultag | maco, mmm! interesting | 16:56 |
| paultag | maco, or a metal back-brace | 16:56 |
| maco | thats basically what a corset is | 16:56 |
| paultag | nigelb, haha | 16:56 |
| maco | *good* corsets have spring steel boning | 16:56 |
| paultag | mmm | 16:56 |
| nigelb | paultag: Its al of us :) | 16:56 |
| AlanBell | http://www.wikihow.com/Look-Like-a-Barbie-Doll | 16:56 |
| paultag | maco, I always think of them in terms of trying to make one skinnier | 16:56 |
| maco | paultag: yes the difference between a basque and a corset is in what it does to the waist, but a good corset also does things to your posture because it has metal bars | 16:57 |
| paultag | maco, ahha | 16:57 |
| paultag | TIL :) | 16:57 |
| maco | and i keep saying "good" because cheap modern corsets have plastic boning | 16:57 |
| maco | good corsets are in the $300 range | 16:58 |
| paultag | AlanBell, haha, that's great | 16:58 |
| nigelb | how the heck does women put themselves through that torture? | 16:58 |
| maco | (on the low end) | 16:58 |
| paultag | maco, I thought some of them had bone, I think | 16:58 |
| AlanBell | whale bone traditionally | 16:58 |
| maco | paultag: thats not really legal now... | 16:58 |
| paultag | Ah, right | 16:58 |
| AlanBell | I believe a small number of whales may be caught each year for sartorial research though | 16:59 |
| maco | well and a large number in japan for a "delicacy" | 16:59 |
| maco | but the exact species that was commonly used for corsets & cosmetics is now endangered, iirc | 17:00 |
| nigelb | so, how did we get to whales? :p | 17:00 |
| AlanBell | and where are we going next? | 17:00 |
| maco | nigelb: corsets used to be made of whale | 17:00 |
| AlanBell | where would you like to go today? | 17:01 |
| nigelb | bed | 17:01 |
| nigelb | its 9:30 and I'm sleepy | 17:01 |
| maco | i think my reference to whaling in japan could lead us to shark fin soup in china... | 17:01 |
| AlanBell | maco: you are making me hungry now | 17:01 |
| maco | im hungry but im not finding that appetising at all | 17:02 |
| nigelb | I'm craving for beef roast | 17:02 |
| AlanBell | fish and chips for me in a sec | 17:03 |
| nigelb | yay, chicken fried rice and lassi ordered :) | 17:03 |
| nigelb | AlanBell: chips = fish fingers? | 17:04 |
| AlanBell | gosh no | 17:04 |
| nigelb | err, fish | 17:04 |
| nigelb | chips is french fries | 17:04 |
| AlanBell | chips are potatos | 17:04 |
| AlanBell | yes, but not french | 17:04 |
| nigelb | err, done differently? | 17:04 |
| AlanBell | bigger | 17:04 |
| nigelb | fish and chips gavve me distinct image of fish fingers and potato chips with mayonaise | 17:05 |
| AlanBell | http://www.harrysplace.com/wp-content/gallery/fishchipsgallery/fish_and_chips.jpg | 17:05 |
| nigelb | AlanBell: ah yes | 17:05 |
| nigelb | AlanBell: heh, used to have them when I was a kid :) | 17:06 |
| * nigelb had access to an English bar's food (only the food) when growing up ;) | 17:06 | |
| duanedesign | AlanBell: Have you had a chance to test U1 today | 17:07 |
| maco | during debconf, someone found a vegan restaurant that served vegan fish & chips | 17:07 |
| AlanBell | duanedesign: yup, works great on the edge server | 17:07 |
| maco | a welshman and an englishman were among the group that went to try it out | 17:08 |
| nigelb | maco: vegan fish? | 17:08 |
| duanedesign | are chips served with mayo? | 17:08 |
| nigelb | how does that work | 17:08 |
| AlanBell | fix should hit the production servers on tuesday | 17:08 |
| nigelb | duanedesign: I would assume so | 17:08 |
| maco | nigelb: probably soy, i guess... dunno... texture was right though | 17:08 |
| AlanBell | duanedesign: tomato ketchup normally, mayo is a continental thing | 17:08 |
| duanedesign | AlanBell: ok great. Looked like you found a bug that needed squashing | 17:08 |
| maco | oh right...british ketchup....ick | 17:08 |
| nigelb | AlanBell: heh, when I had it as a kid, they had something they called tortoise sause (made of mayo) | 17:09 |
| duanedesign | that sounds interesting | 17:09 |
| nigelb | maco: sounds interesting | 17:10 |
| AlanBell | Heinz ketchup, plus salt and vinegar on the chips | 17:11 |
| * AlanBell goes to get them now | 17:11 | |
| duanedesign | AlanBell: does sound good | 17:12 |
| maco | AlanBell: heinz has a different recipe that it sells to the uk i think | 17:12 |
| maco | i remember thinking the ketchup there was nasty the first time i visted...tasted too much like vinegar. i told that to the two brits who went to the vegan fish & chips place during debconf, and they agreed that our ketchup is different from yours... ours is sweet | 17:12 |
| * duanedesign can not figure out why his .desktop file works in Lucid and not Maverick. | 17:20 | |
| doctormo | maco: And what is odd is that it's the opposite with chocolate. I find most American food to be oily and salty. while british food tends to be buttery. There is a weird difference in sweet things though that makes American chocolate taste foul to me. | 17:41 |
| Pendulum | doctormo: possibly the fact that most American "chocolate" isn't really chocolate? | 17:42 |
| doctormo | Pendulum: It's a kind of cheese, I know. | 17:42 |
| * nigelb blinks | 17:44 | |
| nigelb | chocolate is cheese? | 17:45 |
| duanedesign | isn't that a Ween album 'Choclate and Cheese' :P | 17:50 |
| duanedesign | doctormo: I used to work with a British expatriate and he used to refuse to eat cocolate made in north America | 17:51 |
| AlanBell | that was yummy | 17:58 |
| AlanBell | nigelb: we had chips with curry sauce, which I fear you would not recognise as such! | 17:58 |
| duanedesign | brb, going to set up shop at the local coffe house patio to enjoy the cooler temps we are haveing today... | 17:59 |
| doctormo | nigelb: American chocolate it was joked, would be classed as cheese by the EU food regulations. | 18:00 |
| paultag | hahahahahaha | 18:05 |
| matti | Eh. | 18:41 |
| maco | doctormo: i told Riddell i was eating Fry's Peppermint Creams as my "make maco feel better" food, and he said something about it being the last remaining Quaker chocolate | 18:59 |
| maco | (sladen explained that Nestle bought Rowntree, and I knew Kraft got Cadbury) | 18:59 |
| * maco <3 the british candy shop down the street | 19:00 | |
| maco | (for any non-dairy folks who miss York Peppermint Patties: Fry's Peppermint Creams are a great non-dairy replacement) | 19:01 |
| nigelb | ok, that was delicious lassi :) | 19:10 |
| nigelb | doctormo: lol | 19:11 |
| nigelb | AlanBell: you're evil! :p | 19:11 |
| nigelb | maco: quaker choclate? how? | 19:12 |
| maco | nigelb: England has a national religion, so people who weren't that religion weren't allowed to go to English universities a few hundred years ago. non-anglicans therefore tended toward business instead of academia | 19:13 |
| nigelb | ohhhh, ok | 19:14 |
| maco | nigelb: http://www.jhsteel.clara.net/industry.html | 19:15 |
| nigelb | maco: that was interesting read :0 | 19:17 |
| nigelb | :) | 19:17 |
| duanedesign | AlanBell: ping | 19:54 |
| AlanBell | o/ | 19:54 |
| duanedesign | AlanBell: good day | 19:54 |
| duanedesign | AlanBell: what was the name of consultancy busineess you are affiliated with? | 19:55 |
| AlanBell | at the moment http://www.theopenlearningcentre.com | 19:55 |
| duanedesign | thats it | 19:55 |
| AlanBell | are you in need of our valuable services or something? | 19:56 |
| duanedesign | AlanBell: i was looking to do something similar in my area. | 19:56 |
| AlanBell | ah, ok :) | 19:56 |
| duanedesign | i remember reading some informative stuff on the OLC site | 19:56 |
| AlanBell | that would be great, the more people doing real business that identify as an open source business the better | 19:57 |
| AlanBell | must poke Gerry about the partner mailing list and such | 19:58 |
| duanedesign | AlanBell: I think(hope) that businesses are starting to realize the value, and benefits of runnin open sourse | 19:58 |
| AlanBell | they are | 19:58 |
| nigelb | yes indeed | 19:58 |
| AlanBell | but you can still stand up in front of a room full of people and talk for an hour about how you support businesses running open source, then get a question at the end saying "well this free stuff is all very well, but there is no support for it" | 19:59 |
| nigelb | our work uses ubuntu workstations and uses a jabber server for communication | 19:59 |
| doctormo | pleia2, Pendulum: according to facebook, you two will have consecutive birthdays. | 20:01 |
| duanedesign | I am very interested in trying to educate local businesses on the benefits of open source | 20:01 |
| doctormo | duanedesign: Free and Open Source | 20:01 |
| duanedesign | :) | 20:01 |
| Pendulum | doctormo: this is correct, we do have consecutive birthdays | 20:01 |
| duanedesign | your right I am just lazy. FOSS, there we go | 20:01 |
| duanedesign | AlanBell: lol, that link is on your wiki. Sorry bout that, I just didnt scroll up all the way :P | 20:02 |
| nigelb | Pendulum, pleia2: oh, yay | 20:03 |
| nigelb | doctormo: we should arrange a cake at uds for akgraner | 20:03 |
| AlanBell | doctormo: yup, I tell businesses about Software Freedom, lots of presentations have started with a run though of the four freedoms | 20:04 |
| doctormo | nigelb: It was a pity UDS wasn't a week later or it would have been my cake. | 20:04 |
| nigelb | doctormo: we can still celebrate!! | 20:05 |
| doctormo | AlanBell: Which four? | 20:05 |
| AlanBell | http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html | 20:06 |
| duanedesign | doctormo: yes two weeks later and it would be my cake too | 20:06 |
| doctormo | AlanBell: Yes that's 5, I'm just curious though because the fsf has never fixed that. | 20:06 |
| AlanBell | use, study, redistribute, modify | 20:06 |
| AlanBell | 0,1,2,3 | 20:07 |
| AlanBell | four in total, with loopy zero based numbering | 20:07 |
| doctormo | AlanBell: use, study, modify, redistribute and redistribute modifications. re-read that text, it's not exactly concise. | 20:07 |
| duanedesign | i like 'put an end to word attachments' on gnu.org. I use some of those canned responses | 20:08 |
| doctormo | study and modify were lumped together, rather disagreeably so. | 20:08 |
| nigelb | ok, bed time | 20:08 |
| nigelb | catch y'all later. Today was fun day :) | 20:08 |
| doctormo | nigelb: ni-night my friend. | 20:09 |
| duanedesign | cya nigelb | 20:09 |
| nigelb | bye doctormo, duanedesign, AlanBell & Pendulum :) | 20:09 |
| AlanBell | doctormo: fair enough, and we usually talk about the freedom to improve it, we don't nit pick the original wording | 20:10 |
| duanedesign | the C++ and python classes went well today | 20:10 |
| doctormo | AlanBell: Yes but you can't go around calling them the four freedoms if there are 16 of them. | 20:10 |
| AlanBell | in the world of marketing you can get away with calling pretty much anything whatever you like | 20:11 |
| doctormo | AlanBell: Sure, but Use, Modify, Study and Redistribute are the classics and it's good you picked them out of the original FSF wording. | 20:12 |
| akgraner | paultag you around? | 22:08 |
| paultag | akgraner, yes ma'am! | 22:08 |
| akgraner | :-P | 22:09 |
| duanedesign | hey paultag, if you get a chance could you check out the next release of CLI Companion. I am hoping to get it up tomorrow. http://bit.ly/d096uW | 22:32 |
| paultag | yeah duanedesign, I'll do it after I get home from this game | 22:32 |
| paultag | duanedesign, poke me in 4 hours or so | 22:32 |
| duanedesign | thank you | 22:32 |
| doctormo | hey paultag, want to see something awesome | 23:01 |
| doctormo | Still in it's wrapper: http://doctormo.org/2010/09/25/five-year-ago-in-ubuntu/ | 23:19 |
| duanedesign | doctormo: nice | 23:47 |
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