=== cyphermox_ is now known as cyphermox [03:35] * nigelb waves [03:36] hi nigelb [03:37] heya Pendulum :) [03:42] * duanedesign waves at nigelb [03:42] duanedesign: heh, have you no sleep? :p [03:45] nigelb: just about to saw somw logs :) [03:45] s/somw/some [03:48] * nigelb goes to look for jussi's wedding stream [03:51] what time? [03:52] nvm. Pendulum says 1pm jussi-time = 7am maco&pen time [03:52] its evening for me I think [03:53] jussi is at UTC+1:00? [03:53] nigelb: UTC+2:00 [03:54] ok, 1530 or 1430 for me. Unsusre [03:55] 8 hours from now [03:55] (well 8 hours & 5 minutes) [03:56] ok, thats 1630 :) [03:56] tea time! I can just grab somwthing to eat and watch it :D [05:03] AlanBell: Any bugs that you are up for fixing in lernid would definitely be appreciated [05:09] you know you've been spending too much time on ubuntu websites when you type flickr.ubuntu.com [06:04] morning [06:05] mornin laura :) [06:06] nigelb: haha [06:06] pleia2: :) [06:07] pleia2: I mean,we even have maps.ubuntu.com [06:07] I didn't know about that one [06:08] actually I did but I forgot [06:08] nigelb: ello ello [06:09] czajkowski: had a good trip yesterday? :) [06:09] yup [06:09] day 11 [06:09] now [06:09] day 11 of? [06:10] sorry 2 [06:10] lordie i may need more sleep [06:10] oh well [06:11] heh [06:11] my conference [06:11] aaah :) [06:11] popey daviey adn tony are on their way over [06:11] the one with msft [06:11] oh wait, barcamp [06:12] yes [06:12] pleia2: I mean,we even have maps.ubuntu.com <--- we do? *goes to look* [06:13] maco: beee around for some time [06:13] maco: been there for a while now.. [06:13] *been [06:13] 1630 today should be fun :) [06:13] i guess more than a month or two.. [06:14] after kim0 joined [06:14] nigelb: follow @ossbarcamp or #ossbc [06:20] ohhh,new twitter is nice! [06:40] 4.5 hours from now for all of you wondering what time the wedding is [06:40] laters [06:40] jussi: good morning :) happy wedding day! [06:40] jussi: best of luck [06:40] gulp. Thanks!!! [06:46] jussi: omg [06:46] jussi: you geek! go get married [06:48] hmm time for some nikita [07:08] oops [07:09] poor popey [07:09] "Spoke too soon. Our plane is broken. On stand whilst they get an engineer. Balls." [07:15] adlo [07:36] good luck jussi! have a great day [08:04] nigelb: just seen the comonwealth games site photos on the BBC, it does indeed look a bit of a mess /o\ [08:04] AlanBell: HUGE Mess. They're going to pay for this crap [08:05] India has been put to fun now. [08:06] London will struggle to be ready for the Olympics, but I think they will keep throwing money at it and make it happen [08:08] AlanBell: Its not the lack of money. Its the amount of money that went to the pockets of the people involved that's make us ashamed [08:08] at least that's one statistic we'll always top up [08:09] AlanBell: for example, threadmills were "rented" for 40 days at more than it would cost for buying them from Harrods [08:53] AlanBell: Indians tend/like to be fashionably late ;) [11:02] morning all [11:05] nigelb: vish i had to unsticky the Cleansweep and Papercut threads on the Forum. The papercut had almost 3,000 views and the Cleansweep 2,000 [11:07] duanedesign: cool, thanks.. but why unsticky? just wondering.. ;) [11:08] vish: had to make room for new Stickies [11:08] ah! [11:09] i think Open Week volunteer thread prompted the discussion [11:10] vish: we can do another one after awhile if you want. Maybe we can do one in Development and Programming asking for bug fixers [11:13] duanedesign: yea, we can look into it later [11:14] * vish just discovered that nautilus backgrounds can do gradients! [11:17] vish: that reminds me. i had a project i started a long time ago. It was on an abandoned project called Weather Wallpaper. Displayed different wallpaper depending on the weather [11:17] ...i should finish that [11:19] duanedesign: thats an interesting idea..! [11:21] duanedesign: heh, this nautilus backgrounds thing i just noticed by accident! [11:21] i was dropping different colors and suddenly noticed a gradient! [11:22] it seems that if we drop the color either at the top/bottom or left/right it forms a gradient.. [11:22] * duanedesign goes to look :) [13:41] AlanBell, do you have the URL to your slides and I'll add them to the Calendar [14:26] maco2: PING [14:27] nigelb: I suspect she is asleep [14:28] Pendulum: I suspect so too, but this for her to reply back later [14:30] akgraner: Can you send me a list of sessions that have slides along with their URLs? I am trying to maintain an archive of all classroom slides [14:30] nigelb: It also helps if you provide some context in your 'ping' so she can reply even if you are away [14:30] nhandler: that's already there in PM :) [14:31] :) [14:31] * vish wonders why wouldnt "that pm" ping someone ;p [14:32] nhandler, I don't have any as of right now === maco2 is now known as maco [16:07] lol http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/bizarre_cathedral_72 [16:12] nigelb: ibuclaw just posted that in #ubuntu-beginners :) [16:12] duanedesign: heh, I picked it off his fb wall :p [16:22] also lol http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/bizarre_cathedral_67 [16:35] * nigelb waves to crabbytag :P [16:42] akgraner: when I write the slides you will be the first to get the URL [16:43] nigelb, heyya buddy [16:43] paultag: hey there! [16:43] nigelb, how goes? [16:45] paultag: oh, not bad. Was a boring day. Brightened up thank to FB :P [16:45] nigelb, :) [16:48] nigelb !! [16:48] AlanBell: haha [16:49] just checked my facebook you nutter [16:49] haha, I thouught so [16:49] paultag: haha, good one :p [16:49] nigelb, as always, I need to keep it classy [16:49] AlanBell: Now that I think of it, I should have done this after UDS, more LOLs definitely [16:50] nigelb, maco, For some reason, even though my religion is Pastafarianism I get "MEET HOT CHRISTIAN SINGLES IN YOUR AREA!" on facebook. It's real lame. [16:50] paultag: HAHAHAHA [16:51] hahaha [16:51] You'd think there would be some kind of constraint [16:51] Ooop, now it "Mafia Wars" "Hunting Survival Straps" and "Meet your fantasy girl" [16:51] This is why I love adblock [16:51] * maco went through and marked every weight loss ad that came up as "offensive" [16:52] "Meet cute, hot, and pretty girls online now! Find your dream girl - meet her LIVE in video chat. Click here!" [16:52] maco, did it work? [16:52] hahaha [16:52] yes, now it just gives me free software ads :) [16:52] maco: heh, meet hot free software developers in your area? :p [16:52] nigelb, I don't think I'll be meeting my wife over a webcam dating service. thanks but no thanks [16:52] nigelb, ahahahahaha [16:52] I want that ad, please [16:52] paultag: hahah [16:53] the weight loss ads for women are not like "if you want to..." they're like "YOURE FAT! LOSE WEIGHT NOW" [16:53] haha [16:53] maco, but don't you know! this is America! If you don't look like barbie then you're not acceptable! [16:53] maco, let's not even care that a person of that size would not be able to walk, it's pretty! [16:53] paultag: in that case, i need a rack to stretch me to her height, not to lose weight :P [16:53] hahaha [16:54] also, to have my feet surgically altered to only fit high heels [16:54] wait, barbie is fat? [16:54] nigelb: no, she's over 7 feet tall [16:54] +1 [16:54] 4 feet coming from the heels? :p [16:54] She'd have like a D bra as well [16:54] maco: you'd also have to get used to crawling on all fours, correct? [16:54] Pendulum: paultag already mentioned the impossibility of standing at those dimensions [16:55] ah, missed that :-/ [16:55] I think last time it was worked out, her waist size was so small it would cause huge issues with walking [16:55] paultag: oh lol http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/bizarre_cathedral_21 [16:55] paultag: D is a lot smaller than Barbie [16:55] paultag: eh, D bras are more common than people think... well... at least when ya wear the right size [16:55] maco: but a barbie matching waist to go with it most probably aint that common (impossible?) [16:55] Pendulum, maco, I have not the first clue about lady's undergarments. All I have for knowledge are the details of the ex-ms. paultags [16:55] paultag: mmm maybe if she had a corset on she could walk? [16:56] maco, mmm! interesting [16:56] maco, or a metal back-brace [16:56] thats basically what a corset is [16:56] nigelb, haha [16:56] *good* corsets have spring steel boning [16:56] mmm [16:56] paultag: Its al of us :) [16:56] http://www.wikihow.com/Look-Like-a-Barbie-Doll [16:56] maco, I always think of them in terms of trying to make one skinnier [16:57] paultag: yes the difference between a basque and a corset is in what it does to the waist, but a good corset also does things to your posture because it has metal bars [16:57] maco, ahha [16:57] TIL :) [16:57] and i keep saying "good" because cheap modern corsets have plastic boning [16:58] good corsets are in the $300 range [16:58] AlanBell, haha, that's great [16:58] how the heck does women put themselves through that torture? [16:58] (on the low end) [16:58] maco, I thought some of them had bone, I think [16:58] whale bone traditionally [16:58] paultag: thats not really legal now... [16:58] Ah, right [16:59] I believe a small number of whales may be caught each year for sartorial research though [16:59] well and a large number in japan for a "delicacy" [17:00] but the exact species that was commonly used for corsets & cosmetics is now endangered, iirc [17:00] so, how did we get to whales? :p [17:00] and where are we going next? [17:00] nigelb: corsets used to be made of whale [17:01] where would you like to go today? [17:01] bed [17:01] its 9:30 and I'm sleepy [17:01] i think my reference to whaling in japan could lead us to shark fin soup in china... [17:01] maco: you are making me hungry now [17:02] im hungry but im not finding that appetising at all [17:02] I'm craving for beef roast [17:03] fish and chips for me in a sec [17:03] yay, chicken fried rice and lassi ordered :) [17:04] AlanBell: chips = fish fingers? [17:04] gosh no [17:04] err, fish [17:04] chips is french fries [17:04] chips are potatos [17:04] yes, but not french [17:04] err, done differently? [17:04] bigger [17:05] fish and chips gavve me distinct image of fish fingers and potato chips with mayonaise [17:05] http://www.harrysplace.com/wp-content/gallery/fishchipsgallery/fish_and_chips.jpg [17:05] AlanBell: ah yes [17:06] AlanBell: heh, used to have them when I was a kid :) [17:06] * nigelb had access to an English bar's food (only the food) when growing up ;) [17:07] AlanBell: Have you had a chance to test U1 today [17:07] during debconf, someone found a vegan restaurant that served vegan fish & chips [17:07] duanedesign: yup, works great on the edge server [17:08] a welshman and an englishman were among the group that went to try it out [17:08] maco: vegan fish? [17:08] are chips served with mayo? [17:08] how does that work [17:08] fix should hit the production servers on tuesday [17:08] duanedesign: I would assume so [17:08] nigelb: probably soy, i guess... dunno... texture was right though [17:08] duanedesign: tomato ketchup normally, mayo is a continental thing [17:08] AlanBell: ok great. Looked like you found a bug that needed squashing [17:08] oh right...british ketchup....ick [17:09] AlanBell: heh, when I had it as a kid, they had something they called tortoise sause (made of mayo) [17:09] that sounds interesting [17:10] maco: sounds interesting [17:11] Heinz ketchup, plus salt and vinegar on the chips [17:11] * AlanBell goes to get them now [17:12] AlanBell: does sound good [17:12] AlanBell: heinz has a different recipe that it sells to the uk i think [17:12] i remember thinking the ketchup there was nasty the first time i visted...tasted too much like vinegar. i told that to the two brits who went to the vegan fish & chips place during debconf, and they agreed that our ketchup is different from yours... ours is sweet [17:20] * duanedesign can not figure out why his .desktop file works in Lucid and not Maverick. [17:41] maco: And what is odd is that it's the opposite with chocolate. I find most American food to be oily and salty. while british food tends to be buttery. There is a weird difference in sweet things though that makes American chocolate taste foul to me. [17:42] doctormo: possibly the fact that most American "chocolate" isn't really chocolate? [17:42] Pendulum: It's a kind of cheese, I know. [17:44] * nigelb blinks [17:45] chocolate is cheese? [17:50] isn't that a Ween album 'Choclate and Cheese' :P [17:51] doctormo: I used to work with a British expatriate and he used to refuse to eat cocolate made in north America [17:58] that was yummy [17:58] nigelb: we had chips with curry sauce, which I fear you would not recognise as such! [17:59] brb, going to set up shop at the local coffe house patio to enjoy the cooler temps we are haveing today... [18:00] nigelb: American chocolate it was joked, would be classed as cheese by the EU food regulations. [18:05] hahahahahaha [18:41] Eh. [18:59] doctormo: i told Riddell i was eating Fry's Peppermint Creams as my "make maco feel better" food, and he said something about it being the last remaining Quaker chocolate [18:59] (sladen explained that Nestle bought Rowntree, and I knew Kraft got Cadbury) [19:00] * maco <3 the british candy shop down the street [19:01] (for any non-dairy folks who miss York Peppermint Patties: Fry's Peppermint Creams are a great non-dairy replacement) [19:10] ok, that was delicious lassi :) [19:11] doctormo: lol [19:11] AlanBell: you're evil! :p [19:12] maco: quaker choclate? how? [19:13] nigelb: England has a national religion, so people who weren't that religion weren't allowed to go to English universities a few hundred years ago. non-anglicans therefore tended toward business instead of academia [19:14] ohhhh, ok [19:15] nigelb: http://www.jhsteel.clara.net/industry.html [19:17] maco: that was interesting read :0 [19:17] :) [19:54] AlanBell: ping [19:54] o/ [19:54] AlanBell: good day [19:55] AlanBell: what was the name of consultancy busineess you are affiliated with? [19:55] at the moment http://www.theopenlearningcentre.com [19:55] thats it [19:56] are you in need of our valuable services or something? [19:56] AlanBell: i was looking to do something similar in my area. [19:56] ah, ok :) [19:56] i remember reading some informative stuff on the OLC site [19:57] that would be great, the more people doing real business that identify as an open source business the better [19:58] must poke Gerry about the partner mailing list and such [19:58] AlanBell: I think(hope) that businesses are starting to realize the value, and benefits of runnin open sourse [19:58] they are [19:58] yes indeed [19:59] but you can still stand up in front of a room full of people and talk for an hour about how you support businesses running open source, then get a question at the end saying "well this free stuff is all very well, but there is no support for it" [19:59] our work uses ubuntu workstations and uses a jabber server for communication [20:01] pleia2, Pendulum: according to facebook, you two will have consecutive birthdays. [20:01] I am very interested in trying to educate local businesses on the benefits of open source [20:01] duanedesign: Free and Open Source [20:01] :) [20:01] doctormo: this is correct, we do have consecutive birthdays [20:01] your right I am just lazy. FOSS, there we go [20:02] AlanBell: lol, that link is on your wiki. Sorry bout that, I just didnt scroll up all the way :P [20:03] Pendulum, pleia2: oh, yay [20:03] doctormo: we should arrange a cake at uds for akgraner [20:04] doctormo: yup, I tell businesses about Software Freedom, lots of presentations have started with a run though of the four freedoms [20:04] nigelb: It was a pity UDS wasn't a week later or it would have been my cake. [20:05] doctormo: we can still celebrate!! [20:05] AlanBell: Which four? [20:06] http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html [20:06] doctormo: yes two weeks later and it would be my cake too [20:06] AlanBell: Yes that's 5, I'm just curious though because the fsf has never fixed that. [20:06] use, study, redistribute, modify [20:07] 0,1,2,3 [20:07] four in total, with loopy zero based numbering [20:07] AlanBell: use, study, modify, redistribute and redistribute modifications. re-read that text, it's not exactly concise. [20:08] i like 'put an end to word attachments' on gnu.org. I use some of those canned responses [20:08] study and modify were lumped together, rather disagreeably so. [20:08] ok, bed time [20:08] catch y'all later. Today was fun day :) [20:09] nigelb: ni-night my friend. [20:09] cya nigelb [20:09] bye doctormo, duanedesign, AlanBell & Pendulum :) [20:10] doctormo: fair enough, and we usually talk about the freedom to improve it, we don't nit pick the original wording [20:10] the C++ and python classes went well today [20:10] AlanBell: Yes but you can't go around calling them the four freedoms if there are 16 of them. [20:11] in the world of marketing you can get away with calling pretty much anything whatever you like [20:12] AlanBell: Sure, but Use, Modify, Study and Redistribute are the classics and it's good you picked them out of the original FSF wording. [22:08] paultag you around? [22:08] akgraner, yes ma'am! [22:09] :-P [22:32] hey paultag, if you get a chance could you check out the next release of CLI Companion. I am hoping to get it up tomorrow. http://bit.ly/d096uW [22:32] yeah duanedesign, I'll do it after I get home from this game [22:32] duanedesign, poke me in 4 hours or so [22:32] thank you [23:01] hey paultag, want to see something awesome [23:19] Still in it's wrapper: http://doctormo.org/2010/09/25/five-year-ago-in-ubuntu/ [23:47] doctormo: nice