[09:37] <Tm_T> hi Bacta, how can we help today?
 sunny_, it is the same, ubuntu just steals debian sid packages and put it some custom wallpapers
[10:14] <bazhang> when talking about debian and ubuntu
[10:34] <bazhang> st__ seems to be offering lots of iffy "advice"
[10:35] <rww> Hellop. The channel entrymsg for #ubuntu-proxy-users includes "Please type !proxy for more information.", but that factoid has been deleted from ubottu. I'd recommend either recreating the factoid or someone with the relevant access editing the entrymsg.
[10:36] <rww> The factoid's content used to be: "Many Ubuntu IRC channels prohibit access from !proxies such as !TOR and web (Java, etc) gateways due to a high level of abuse. You can however obtain a hostmask cloak: see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks"
[10:37] <rww> and by the look of it, the people with the relevant access are nalioth, elky, and the IRCC account
[11:03] <elky> jussi, tsimpson, nhandler ^^ i'm guessing it was deleted for a reason. telling us what should be told to people instead would be nice.
[14:07] <nhandler> elky, rww: Pici was the one who removed the factoid. I can't remember the specific reason. However, I do recall some discussion about removing certain factoids mentioning us blocking tor (which freenode itself tends to handle). I'd like to hear Pici's reason for removing the factoid before doing anything else
[15:15] <bazhang> emma spoofing mc44
[16:29] <elky> bazhang, wha?
[16:30] <bazhang> elky, nick change and then back  -irc #xubuntu and every other channel we share
[16:31] <elky> I see now. No honesty at all
[20:25] <MichealH> Hello.
[20:25] <MichealH> Is it possible for me to help out in -unregged?
[20:29] <jrib> MichealH: doing?
[20:29] <MichealH> jrib: Just helping out :)
[20:29] <MichealH> jrib: I could help op it?
[20:30] <jrib> MichealH: not really much to do, but I guess you can stick around and see what others say
[20:31] <MichealH> I get kikced by one of the bots :(
[20:31] <MichealH> I cant idle
[20:31] <MichealH> In the channel
[20:32] <jrib> MichealH: I meant stick around here :)
[20:32] <MichealH> Okay
[20:32] <IdleOne> unregged is not a support channel, helping there would be counter productive.
[20:33] <IdleOne> the channel is only really used for when there is bot attacks in #ubuntu
[20:33] <MichealH> Except for we can give head up to the ops IdleOne
[20:33] <IdleOne> what do you mean?
[20:33] <MichealH> So if there was a abusive use in -uregged We can alert the ops
[20:33] <MichealH> Like PM ect.
[20:34] <MichealH> So then we can protect #ubuntu from scripts ect.
[20:35] <IdleOne> there really is not much abuse inthat channel and when there is it is limited to very few ( less then 200) users who most of which are idle clients who don't realize they are even in there
[20:35] <IdleOne> that channel is most active when we have to set +r in #ubuntu
[20:36] <IdleOne> and it is only active in the sense that the bot asks the user to answer a question so they can join #ubuntu
[20:37] <MichealH> Okay :(
[20:37] <IdleOne> basically what I am saying is we don't do any support in that channel
[20:37] <MichealH> So its a no?
[20:38] <IdleOne> you can idle there if you like
[20:38] <Tm_T> I cannot see how you could help, sorry
[20:38] <IdleOne> but we prefer that all support be done in #ubuntu
[20:38] <MichealH> IdleOne: Floodbot kicks me
[20:38] <maco> then don't flood?
[20:38] <MichealH> I dont
[20:39] <Tm_T> maco: it keeps unneeded folks out from there
[20:39] <IdleOne> floodbot is kicking you soon as you join?
[20:39] <MichealH> I get FloodBot3 has kicked MichealH from #ubuntu-unregged (Please join #ubuntu)
[20:39] <MichealH> IdleOne: maco: ^^
[20:39] <maco> maybe because you are reg'd and its just for unreg'd people?
[20:39] <IdleOne> does that happen soon as you try to join
[20:39] <IdleOne> ?
[20:39] <MichealH> IdleOne: Nope
[20:40] <IdleOne> yeah that happens when we clear the channel
[20:40] <MichealH> It kicks me around 8:30PM UTC
[20:40] <IdleOne> MichealH: best way to help Ubuntu is to help in #ubuntu
[20:40] <IdleOne> !contribute > MichealH
[20:40] <IdleOne> that info will tell you other ways
[20:40] <MichealH> ARGH! Annother pink window ;D
[20:41] <MichealH> Yeah
[20:41] <MichealH> I mean I am more actve on IRC
[20:41] <MichealH> active
[20:41] <IdleOne> then #ubuntu :)
[20:42] <IdleOne> you can also help in your LoCo channel
[20:42] <MichealH> Well, Yeah.
[20:42] <IdleOne> There are a ton of different projects within ubuntu.
[20:43] <MichealH> I know
[20:44] <MichealH> IdleOne: ^^
[20:45] <IdleOne> ok
[20:45] <IdleOne> Was there anything else I could help you with?
[20:45] <MichealH> I guess not
[20:45] <MichealH> See ya
[20:46] <IdleOne> hmm
[20:46] <IdleOne> not sure what else he was expecting :/
[20:46] <knome> getting ops at any ubuntu channel?
[20:47] <IdleOne> yeah well I don't make those decisions
[20:47] <knome> well, that kind of attitude / reason to offer help is also not very.. nice
[20:49] <IdleOne> I don't know about that. I think his attitude was fine and wanting to become an op/ asking for ops is not always a bad thing.
[20:52] <knome> imo you should always make yourself known by your actions before asking anything like that. even better, if you get asked yourself
[20:54] <IdleOne> I agree that helping in the community for a while, 6+months is better then joining a channel and asking when not many people know you
[21:20] <MichealH> This may be late but a heads up: If you lookat #freenode there was a big troll i  there
[21:20] <MichealH> in
[21:21] <MichealH> *in
[21:23] <jpds> ...
[21:24] <knome> heh
[21:24]  * jpds installs gde on knome.
[21:25] <knome> nooo!
[21:25]  * knome actually likes xfce...
[21:27] <MichealH> Did anyone see my heads up?
[21:28] <knome> yes, we saw that. the ubuntu ops are not responsible for policing #freenode
[21:28] <MichealH> I know
[21:28] <MichealH> Its just I was warning incase he came into #ubuntu
[21:29] <MichealH> Anyway, See ya
[23:58] <rww> nhandler: Makes sense. I checked the list of banforwards from #ubuntu and #ubuntu-unregged, and don't recognize the ones that aren't the web gateway, so there's presumably something more nuanced than I understand going on.