[00:37] <undifined> bleh
[00:37] <undifined> when trying to fix my flash issues, I killed my Xorg config
[00:37] <undifined> reinstalling
[00:52] <undifined> reboot, brb
[04:25] <Muscovy> Goodness, quiet tonight.
[09:10] <Tomynho> hey
[09:11] <Silasle> Hi Tomynho
[09:12] <Tomynho> Where can I translate the Ubuntu tour's files?
[09:13] <Tomynho> please?
[09:16] <Silasle> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTour
[09:20] <Tomynho> Thanks...
[09:22] <Tomynho> Can I join even two teams? I'd like to join the Designers and Translators team
[09:23] <Tomynho> I just can't see any link where to sign up...
[09:23] <Silasle> There is just one team, the one at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-tour
[09:23] <Tomynho> never mind, found it
[09:27] <Tomynho> No, I was wrong. I don't know how to add my email into these categories.
[09:27] <Tomynho> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTour/Volunteers/
[09:28] <Tomynho> If you'd like to be on the list, sign in with your launchpad ID and add your name and email address to the category you'd like to volunteer to help with.
[09:28] <Tomynho> I can't find any link... or any e-mail
[09:29] <Silasle> Click log in on the right upper corner
[09:30] <Silasle> End then edit on the volunteers page
[09:33] <Tomynho> I'm logged in... where to edit it? :/
[09:34] <Silasle> Over the title
[09:34] <Silasle> If you want I can add you to the list
[09:34] <Tomynho> Oh I see.
[09:34] <Tomynho> Umm, okay.
[09:34] <Tomynho> I found it but I want to make sure I ain't gonna do anything wrong
[09:35] <Tomynho> so... I'd like to join both, designers, and translators
[09:35] <Tomynho> Description for translators:
[09:35] <Tomynho> Tomáš Stanislavský - admin@stormchasers.sk - I can help with translation into Slovak.
[09:36] <Tomynho> eww, let me do it myself. it won't send these characters over here
[09:36] <Silasle> I have the characters
[09:36] <Tomynho> okay then
[09:36] <Tomynho> and Designers:
[09:38] <Tomynho> Tomáš Stanislavský - admin@stormchasers.sk - I can do icons, tutorials images & layouts. I use Photoshop, Paint.NET and sometimes GIMP.
[09:39] <Silasle> Ok, done
[09:40] <Silasle> Have you joined the launchpad team?
[09:43] <Tomynho> Yeah
[09:44] <Tomynho> Thanks for adding me.
[09:45] <Silasle> And you know how  to use bazaar?
[09:46] <Tomynho> Not really. Sorry.
[09:46] <Tomynho> I've only done translations throught .po files.
[09:46] <Silasle> http://ubuntutour.org/contribute/branch/
[09:48] <Tomynho> Do I have to be on Ubuntu (or any other Linux distro) to set up an SSH key? :/
[09:49] <Silasle> There is an windows client
[09:50] <Silasle> But then you need to install it: http://wiki.bazaar.canonical.com/Download
[09:53] <Tomynho> thx
[09:53] <Tomynho> Do I need anything else than Bazaar?
[09:54] <Silasle> An text editor but there you can use what you want
[09:56] <Tomynho> okay.
[09:56] <Tomynho> any text editor should be fine I guess. right?
[09:57] <Silasle> Yep
[09:57] <Tomynho> okay thanks
[10:22] <Silasle> Update, i got it to check if the software center is running before it continues to the next page (in managing software)
[11:33] <UndiFineD> hello
[11:35] <Silasle> Hi UndiFineD
[11:36] <webrsk> Hi Hi :)
[11:37] <webrsk> Good to see , past 2 days there has been quick progress in the revisions :)
[11:37] <UndiFineD> oh yes, and I think I made more progress by sending out that progress evaluation
[11:38] <Silasle> Yea,  try to go trough the "managing software" section :)
[11:38] <UndiFineD> commits pouring in
[11:38] <Silasle> It will check if software center is running
[11:40] <UndiFineD> it does that by looking at dbus ?
[11:40] <Silasle> the easy way ps xa
[11:40] <UndiFineD> ah heh, nice
[11:41] <UndiFineD> though, it might be running under another admin user
[11:41] <webrsk> oh cool :) I just checked nice feature Silasle :)
[11:42] <Silasle> UndiFineD: Can you test what happens then?
[11:42] <Silasle> webrsk: Thanks
[11:42] <UndiFineD> Silasle, no, nut you could check ps for a specific user
[11:43] <Silasle> Couldn't i check for all users
[11:43] <Silasle> ?
[11:43] <UndiFineD> whoami gives current username
[11:43] <Silasle> But you can have more then one admin user
[11:44] <Silasle> ps -U root -u root u
[11:44] <UndiFineD> scripted it goes a bit like:  ps --User 'whoami' xa
[11:45] <Silasle> But he can run it as another user
[11:45] <UndiFineD> so you check for the curent user running the tour
[11:46] <Silasle> I think ps -e puts out everything
[11:46] <UndiFineD> when i ps: ps auxf
[11:46] <UndiFineD> also I tend to be addicted to sudo bash
[11:47] <webrsk> So only the first time when clicking the Managing software we checking whether Software Center process is running or not ... rite ?
[11:48] <Silasle> We check after the window that shows where to start it
[11:49] <Silasle> UndiFineD:  ps aux (http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/show-all-running-processes-in-linux/)
[11:50] <UndiFineD> Silasle, the auxf makes nice trees of related child processes
[11:50] <Silasle> Do we need that to check if USC is running :P
[11:50] <UndiFineD> no
[11:51] <UndiFineD> but it is a tip for commandline use
[11:53] <Silasle> Maybe we should have an button to continue even if it's not running?
[11:54] <UndiFineD> I wish people pulled before they pushed and than fix their merge
[11:59] <Silasle> Something like this: zenity --question --text="It's recomended to start the software center, but if you want you can continue" --ok-label="Continue" --cancel-label="Don't continue"
[12:08] <webrsk> @UnduFineD: As you aware that im working on screenshot lightbox effect , like if user clicks any screenshot it will open in a lightbox and show the image.
[12:08] <Silasle> webrsk: That would be nice
[12:09] <Silasle> bbl
[12:10] <webrsk> sure Silasle :)
[12:10] <UndiFineD> oh good
[12:10] <webrsk> I discussed with MadnessRed and he reviewed. Now before i upload the revision i would like to make a guide to the user who writes content to use <screenshot> tag instead of <img> tag .
[12:10] <UndiFineD> webrsk, did you see my comment on the arrows, and that it might need percentage locations ?
[12:11] <webrsk> example : now we use <img src="images/about_ubuntu_places.png" />  -> It has to be entered as <screenshot src="images/about_ubuntu_places.png" /></screenshot> .. So that lightbox effect will be enabled whenever the image is clicked..
[12:12] <webrsk> Background code is completed... :)
[12:13] <webrsk> Ya UndiFineD , I checked and want to know the MadnessRed Idea on it as he is working on that module. :)
[12:13] <UndiFineD> indeed, but the same goes for the lightbox
[12:15] <webrsk> Yes ill have it in mind while giving a final touch to the lightbox...
[12:16] <webrsk> so how we should inform the user (editors,content creators) to follow the method , like use <screenshot> tag whereever the img going to take place..
[12:17] <webrsk> *Surely ill take care of % thing when giving final touch to the lightbox.
[12:36] <UndiFineD> do we have to ? I mean, what makes this fun compared to ubuntu help are images and gadgets
[12:36] <UndiFineD> if the user things he discovered something no-one else has
[12:36] <UndiFineD> he feels good about that
[12:37] <UndiFineD> it is like windows, where people talked about the new easteregg they found
[12:37] <UndiFineD> good for promotion
[12:37] <webrsk> :) No i mean the content creators who updates the content for each page and they specify the screenshot using <img> ..
[12:38] <webrsk> Now it has to specify as <screenshot>... then only action takes place...
[12:38] <UndiFineD> hmm, maybe do a grep / replace
[12:38] <UndiFineD> i think awk is good for that, not sure
[12:41] <webrsk> Im already doing a search/replace when it finds <screenshot> tag it will replace with lightbox code...MadnessRed asked me to take care of this module , let me have word with him in which way it should work :)
[17:34] <Muscovy> Hello everyone.
[18:05] <UndiFineD> hey Muscovy
[18:05] <UndiFineD> just had my dinner
[18:06] <Muscovy> Hello.
[18:20] <Silasle> Muscovy: Yes, the popup is not perfect but it's just the first idea i had how we can check if the program is running, and notify the user of it. I'm open for ideas how to do it better.
[18:21] <Silasle> Maybe it can be  an notification whit notifyosd.
[18:21] <Muscovy> Originally, I wasn't thinking about such notifications.
[18:21] <Muscovy> I think notifyOSD and allowing progression anyways might be good.
[18:26] <Silasle> So i should change it to notify whit notifyosd and let you continue even if it's not running?
[18:30] <Muscovy> I think so.
[18:30] <Muscovy> Do you know how to use notifyosd?
[18:31] <Silasle> Yes
[18:31] <Silasle> Some ideas of what to write?
[18:31] <Silasle> Ubuntu software center is not running
[18:31] <Silasle> Please start it before you continue whit the tour
[18:31] <Silasle> ?
[18:33] <Muscovy> "<insert application here> is not running. We recommend you start it before continuing."
[18:33] <Muscovy> SOmething like that.
[18:33] <Silasle> That's better
[18:36] <Silasle> Commited, pull it and tell me what you think
[18:48] <Silasle> Muscovy: Is that ok? (I did it for firefox too.)
[18:48] <Muscovy> Pulling currently.
[18:49] <Muscovy> That seems good, Silasle.
[18:49] <Muscovy> Thanks. :D
[18:50] <Silasle> No problem
[18:50] <Silasle> Should we have an icon too?
[18:50] <Muscovy> I think so.
[18:53] <UndiFineD> ?!
[18:53] <UndiFineD> there is your icon
[18:59] <Muscovy> Did you mean there or where?
[18:59] <UndiFineD> ?! <-- that
[20:11] <Silasle> Ok, i'm back
[20:11] <Silasle> Muscovy: Which icon?
[20:18] <Muscovy> Silasle: Either the application or the tour icon.
[20:18] <Muscovy> FOr that matter, the tour icon in the branch needs updating, it's mis-scaled .png at the moment.
[20:19] <UndiFineD> I just did a couple of thousand translations today
[20:20] <UndiFineD> so I am kinda done with that now
[20:20] <Silasle> I dont know how to use an icon placed somewhere else then for example /usr/share/icons/Humanity/status/16/
[20:21] <Silasle> So i'm using the gtk-dialog-info icon, pull if you want to see
[20:22] <UndiFineD> nicola doesn't read the logs of bazaar i think
[20:23] <Silasle> Who's nicola?
[20:23] <UndiFineD> he keeps merging his stuff of everyone elses
[20:24] <UndiFineD> Nicola Moretto
[20:24] <Muscovy> Silasle: for theme icons, it's just the icon name, but for other images you use the path instead.
[20:24] <Muscovy> ALso, I just pushed a copy with an svg icon.
[20:24] <Muscovy> There's an edit the the main tour code, so I want to avoid merge issues.
[20:25] <Silasle> UndiFineD: I was wondering where my  pushes are going, but it looks like nicola is getting them
[20:26] <UndiFineD> that is due to the fact that he does not pull before push
[20:26] <Muscovy> Silasle: I think it's something to do with merges.
[20:26] <Muscovy> Aprilg and I have done that a few times too.
[20:27] <UndiFineD> and if you do not pull before push, and you're laggin behind a couple of commits
[20:27] <UndiFineD> there is the danger to overwrite other people's doings
[20:28] <Muscovy> I'll let him know about that.
[20:28] <Silasle> My bazaar is totally messed up now (i think because of Muscovy's icon :P )
[20:32] <UndiFineD> I am going to do something about my sugar level
[20:32] <Silasle> Ok, icon changed to ubuntu-tour logo
[20:33] <UndiFineD> hopefully that will get me inspired again