[00:23] how do i start the xubuntu gui, what is the command? i just installed and now i want to run it [00:23] use the login manager? [00:24] (sudo service gdm start) [00:28] MattTheComputerG: normally you get a GUI when starting the computer. sometimes in my Eee i don't, then i type command startx [00:31] oh i have to restart after install? [00:44] MattTheComputerG: install runned in a live-cd or live-usb didnt it? it was a gui wasnt it? restart to boot into new system. [00:45] it installed in some sort of bios looking interace [00:46] MattTheComputerG: sounds like you used the "alternate" install cd, but it should be the same in the end. If it was a "server" cd, you may not have a gui. [00:46] it is Ubuntu server, FRESH install NEVER USED. i did the commands to install Xubuntu gui and i see no gui afterwards just the terminal interface i restarted same thing [00:49] MattTheComputerG: how did you install Xubuntu in ubuntu server? package xubuntu-desktop? [00:49] 2 sec\ [00:50] aptitude install xubuntu-desktop [00:50] thats what i read on the net [00:51] David-A: that should install everything including gdm. [00:52] sorry, talking to myself again [00:52] yes i dose it seems to install fine, but after that no gui starts and not gui starts after a restart [00:54] MattTheComputerG: did sysi's command 30 minutes up this chat help? [00:54] what was it again [00:55] sudo service gdm start, it says the service dose not exist [00:59] i dont know what it is then. will "startx" start the gui when loggen in as normal user? [01:06] Can someone help me with a wireless problem? I just recently installed Xubuntu, after removing Ubuntu(I wanted something more light weight) and now my wireless doesn't work. It worked perfectly fine in Ubuntu. I am able to connect to my home router, but the nm-applet says that there is 0% signal from the router. Logically it doesn't make sense to me to be able to connect tos omething with no signal. Any ideas? [01:07] The ath5k and ath9k modules are not black listed anywhere [01:11] anyone? [01:11] you say it doesn't work but you can connect? [01:12] yes, i know it sounds strange. It says that i'm connected to 0swa1dnet(my router name), but when i hover over the applet, it says 0% signal [01:12] what's the problem if it works? [01:12] "0swa1dnet active: 0swa1dnet (0%)" [01:12] i mean if you can use it [01:13] the problem is, even though it says i'm connected, there's not interenet [01:13] no internet* [01:13] and I'm able to connect wirelessly through the computer i'm using right now with Ubuntu [01:13] Im back, i enter startx it says is not installed and to type "sudo apt-get install xinit" i do that but it says it cannot find the package [01:14] MattTheComputerG, "sudo apt-get install xorg" [01:17] it says it cant find tha package [01:17] xubuntu-desktop should have dragged in xorg and xinit. maybe it didnt get installed [01:17] it says t can't find xorg? [01:17] sudo apt-get update [01:20] did that it still cant find the packages [01:20] Anyone got any ideas on how to fix my wireless? I was thinking that maybe i needed to update the kernel/headers, but i can't do that because the ethernet port is disabled as well. [01:21] are you connected to the internet? [01:22] im perty sure i am. the cable i pluged in ... how do i check [01:22] go to the terminal and do "ping http://www.google.com/" [01:23] zymus: did you try rebooting? [01:23] Yes [01:24] i will try that.. thoyugh it did nothin ussefull last time i tryed [01:24] I also noticed that the wireless indicator on my laptop isn't lit up. [01:24] MattTheComputerG, if you get a response back, it means you're connected to the internet [01:24] if it fails to ping google, it means that a connection couldn't be made [01:27] I tried modprobe'ing my wireless drivers(ath9k), nothing [01:28] i would update via the ethernet port, but i have to download the compat drivers to get the ethernet working [01:34] it says unknown host, so im assuming it failed... how do i set up my connection [01:34] i remember now that my internet cable was not pluged in during the install [01:35] So your computer is plugged into your router/modem, correct? [01:38] Wait scratch that [01:39] yes its pluged into the router and from there to the server [01:39] And you're installing xubuntu directly from the cd? [01:40] no no no, im instaling the xubuntu gui on my ubuntu serve install [01:40] OH, okay [01:41] Umm, is your ethernet card enabled? [01:42] im not sure, during install the kable was unpluged so i just told it i would sett it up latter [01:42] umm, post the output of ifconfig [01:42] oh wait, probably not [01:43] when you do ifconfig, does it have an interface named something like eth0, ath1, or something along those lines [01:47] no [01:47] what interfaces does it have? [01:49] it lists my mask and, inet, inet6 ifo and other such stuff, my server is in another room so.... [01:56] so i guess im screwwed [01:56] ? [03:10] does xubuntu have netinst images? (i.e., kernel and initrd)? [03:16] I would use the minimal cd and install xubuntu-desktop [03:16] !minimal [03:16] The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [03:20] well_laid_lawn: I'll dig into that [03:21] apparently there is only iso images for minimal though, no netinst [03:21] h725: ubuntu netboot images can be used [03:22] Sysi: how do I tell the regular netboot image to load the alternate installer? [03:22] h725: you can't use any other installer [03:23] put those to to grub or memory stick with unetbootin [03:23] I did that already [03:23] question is won't i end up with ubuntu then and not with xubuntu? [03:24] See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD - you give the option cli and end up with no desktop at all [03:24] then install what you want [03:25] oh excellent [03:25] it is :] [03:42] anyone? [03:43] !ask | jinxzs :] [03:43] jinxzs :]: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [03:44] jinxzs, as you can see there's not a lot of action here. go ahead with your question though. [04:08] hello is anyone here ? [04:08] got a question for someone with good knowledge [04:39] noone ? [04:59] new to *nix. how do i start learning about using the terminal? [05:14] !bash [05:14] The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal [06:21] I lost my applications menu from xfce4-panel, how can I restore it? [06:22] !panel [06:22] Did you panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/ [06:23] well that wasn't too helpful [06:23] !resetpanel [06:23] To reset the panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel » [06:23] that's for gnome... [06:23] he left anyway duh [06:24] gr8m8, no I'm back [06:24] o [06:24] doesn't really matter I wasn't too helpful [06:24] gr8m8, run xfce4-panel didn't work. [06:25] you could remove ~/.config/xfce4/panel [06:26] then restart the panel - it should get the default back [06:26] gr8m8, ok, I'll try that, and then I need to log out/in, or restart? [06:26] just do the restart panel thing [06:26] gr8m8, ok. [06:27] killall xfce4-panel && xfce4-panel & in terminal [06:28] gr8m8, that is a directory, should I remove the entire directory? [06:28] n2diy: I would - but I don't change the poanel much [06:42] gr8m8, ok, that worked, all is well, thanks [06:42] woot! [06:43] n2diy: you can back that folder up so if it borks again it is just a matter of copying the dir over [06:44] baah [06:45] n2diy: you can back that folder up so if it borks again it is just a matter of copying the dir over [06:46] gr8m8, roger that, this is my back up box! But I was too lazy to fetch the directory from the enterprize box. [06:47] heh - you sound like me in that regard ... [06:48] gr8m8, yea, I wanted to see how the delete and reload would go. [07:02] gr8m8, I just upgraded to, and the name of my box was changed to Ubuntu, how can I switch it back to Nino? [07:09] !hostname | n2diy [07:09] n2diy: Use hostname to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. [07:10] gr8m8, tnxs [07:12] n2diy: np :] [07:26] n2diy: it worked? [07:29] gr8m8, yes, xfce4 delete worked. [07:30] n2diy: and the hostname change? - I guess since you are back it worked :] [07:31] gr8m8, I think so, I changed it in hostname, but hosts had two entries, ubuntu, and nino, but nino was IDed as local host, and ubuntu was blank, so I think that's ok? [07:33] gr8m8, also, I like to keep a copy of terminal's icon on my desktop, in case I loose my applications menu, with 8.04 I could drag it from the menu to the desktop, but here on 10.04, that doesn't work? [07:34] n2diy: a simple check is in terminal do hostname and see what it returns [07:34] and for the desktop icon right click the desktop and select create launcher - I'm not on a xubuntu box atm to check sorry [07:52] gr8m8, thanks, it even auto completed the commands for me, tnx again. [07:53] n2diy: glad to help :] [08:10] gr8m8, when I run findsmb this box is displayed as ubuntu, not nino, I guess I should change the other entry in hosts? [08:11] n2diy: yep - and maybe look at smb.conf [08:12] I don't use samba tho - no windows in my home :] [09:05] hello [09:06] hello Arpad2 :] [09:08] what does this mean : http://pastebin.com/Ffcaair9 ? [09:09] that's called a url - a link to a web page Arpad2 [09:09] :) [09:10] heh [09:11] Arpad2: seems you didn't give enought options for the command - is there a manpage? - man mkfs-ext4 [09:12] gr8m8 : what is manpage ? [09:13] Arpad2: it is short for manual in terminal do man mkfs-ext4 [09:13] " No manual entry for mkfs-ext4 " [09:13] try man mkfs [09:14] man mkfs.ext4 [09:14] now, there is [09:14] " mkfs - build a Linux file system..." [09:14] TheSheep to the rescue :] [09:15] ok [09:15] hi knome [09:19] Arpad2: line 4 in that paste suggests the -i option [09:19] or -N in line 5 [09:20] yep [09:20] the man page should give a clue - I've never used mkfs [09:22] i just want to format secundary harddrive in terminal [09:24] I would use cfdisk for that - or parted [09:25] maybe someon e else could give a clue... [09:26] I'm following instructions from here: http://www.ehow.com/how_1000631_hard-drive-linux.html [09:27] not sure why you need it in the terminal [09:28] i should do it with gparted as well? [09:29] gparted or gparted live cd always worked well here [09:30] yes it seems ok, but at the end it sais some harddrive metadata is corrupted and cannot mount [09:41] Is it safe to install flash player? [09:44] n2diy: most do :] [09:44] n2diy: most ppl do :] [09:44] * [09:44] !flash [09:44] To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also !Restricted and !Gnash [09:44] don't do gnash tho [09:45] gr8m8, yes, I have in the past myself, but that was before the security issues arose. [09:46] n2diy: I must have missed the security issue [09:46] ? [09:50] gr8m8, http://phandroid.com/2010/09/14/uh-oh-adobe-warns-against-critical-security-flaw-in-flash/ [09:51] o [12:06] when I sleep, the laptop goes to sleep mode [12:07] but when a awaken the laptop, it starts in a funny order [12:07] 1st it shows me my desktop and all opened windows [12:07] 2nd it locks the interface and prompts for password [12:07] how to solve this funny issue? [12:15] mtrg: have you gone through the options in the screensaver? [13:39] gr8m8: what exactly [13:42] mtrg: I turn the comp off if I walk away from it - you will have to click some buttons to see... [13:42] gr8m8: click some bottons to see what [13:43] gr8m8: so you are saying that you don't need to lock it because you turn the comp off [13:45] mtrg: the most secure comp is one that is not running - there are options in the screensaver - you seem to have not explored them [13:46] I might be wrong there but.. [13:46] gr8m8: i did, but i can't find anything relvant in the section you refere to [13:46] gr8m8: but I did not ask to have the "most secure" comp [13:47] I just want to have windows-level secure comp [13:48] mtrg: you said you wanted to not have the comp ask for a password when it comes out of sleep [13:49] no! [13:49] mtrg> 2nd it locks the interface and prompts for password [13:49] how to solve this funny issue [13:49] nope, the point is not removing password (it's not funny issue) [13:49] mtrg, explain then [13:49] the point is bringing proper order [13:50] when my laptop wakes up, the 1st screen I see is a locked screen [13:50] so, it should 1st lock, then 2nd go sleep [13:50] so when it awakes, 1st locked screen is seen, 2nd desktop is seen after login [13:51] mtrg, so you get a peek of the desktop before the locked screen? [13:51] yeah [13:51] yep seen that before [13:51] not a security issue as far as I can tell [13:51] privacy issue [13:51] hmm? [13:51] no one should know that i watch porn and wank on big boobs [13:52] mtrg, thats not appropriate here [13:52] FUNNY THO [13:52] no [13:52] yeah it should be approperiate [13:52] I laughed [13:52] we all know that we are animals.. [13:52] !guidelines | mtrg [13:52] mtrg: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines [13:52] mtrg, I suggest you read those [13:52] bazhang: ok, won't do again [13:53] I would suggest apt-cache search girl [13:53] bazhang: solution to that early pre-login illigal peek [13:53] gr8m8, please dont. [13:54] sorry [13:54] mtrg, no. [13:54] I'm feeling immature atm [13:54] it's funny that all people like diryt jokes but yet they are ashamed to openly discuss dirty stuff [13:55] wrong network for that. [13:55] heh [13:55] was i kicked [13:55] not joking [13:55] yep [13:55] irssi didn't communicate that properly [13:55] i was expecting to see something in /win 1 [13:55] stay on topic, and follow the guidelines then [13:55] family freindly pls [13:56] friendly* [13:56] yep. all good stuff, birds singing, green grass [13:56] heh [13:56] mtrg, stay on topic [13:57] so the first flash of a scrfeen shouldn't really matter [13:57] so the first flash of a screen shouldn't really matter [13:57] but in my case i might lose a job you know [13:57] is this the # for xubuntu ppc stuff? [13:57] !ppc [13:57] PowerPC. Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ [13:58] mtrg: use the diff workspaces for that maybe [13:59] !vt [13:59] it doesnt seem to tell me how much hdd space is req'd for an install that wil allow 1]web browsing (basic browsing), and email [13:59] i think it's an issue in the sleep script/app, gr8m8 [14:00] gr8m8: I think there should be a sleep timer to make sure screen is properly locked prior to relaly sleeping (or changing order if it is not already in proper order) [14:00] ubottu [14:00] it doesnt seem to tell me how much hdd space is req'd for an install that wil allow 1]web browsing (basic browsing), and email [14:01] for xubuntu installation you should have 10GB [14:01] but possible with 5 [14:01] any 1 know, or can u redirect me to the place for these answers [14:02] 10gb?, i thot xubuntu was the "low mem/hdd edition" [14:02] vic20gmr: there is #powerpc iirc [14:02] well aparently im the only one there [14:02] vic20gmr: 10GB isn't much for Os in year 2010 [14:03] well ubuntu with gnome says it only needs ab 3gb of space [14:03] if you install nothing else [14:03] i've had xubuntu in 4gb [14:03] im looking to make an ibook g3 into a browser/email machine [14:03] it has only 3gb of hdd pace [14:04] total capacity that is [14:04] g3 and todays websites.. [14:05] is not a complete sentence, so wut do u mean/ [14:05] how much ram? [14:05] 288mb [14:05] !minimal [14:05] The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [14:05] you're not gonna get anything run smoothly on that [14:06] !alternate [14:06] The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal [14:06] !lubuntu [14:06] not an older version? [14:06] lubuntu is a project to create a derivative of Ubuntu using the LXDE desktop environment. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu [14:07] 8.04 might be slightly better but still not really [14:09] I would do the minimal with fluxbox and bugger all else [14:10] gr8m8 minimal requires me to use cli? [14:11] I would do the minimal with fluxbox and bugger all else - fluxbox is a very lightweight window manager [14:11] lets you have a mail client [14:11] ~45mB at boot [14:11] mem [14:13] do u have a link [torrent prefered, but not a must :)]? [14:15] nvm [14:15] i gess minimal reqs use of CLI [14:15] ill give it a go, as soon as i find it :) thx all [14:17] !minimal [14:17] The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [14:18] with minimal, i gess i wont have wifi access at start? [14:20] vic20gmr: more then likely no - but if you have a very common card you might [14:21] linsys wusb54g [14:22] v4* [14:22] <_namehere> is it possible to remove the opening animation from xubuntu boot-up and get a text based login instead? [14:22] !nox [14:22] To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode [14:23] <_namehere> ah, merci beaucoup [14:23] de rien [14:23] <_namehere> i mean thank you [14:23] <_namehere> :) [14:23] I know :) [14:23] <_namehere> :) [14:24] bon chance! [14:25] <_namehere> :D [14:48] help! [14:48] http://paste.ubuntu.com/500327/ [15:00] rgnr, have you installed build-essential? [15:01] knome: the problem was ccache [15:01] 10x for reponse === emma is now known as mc44 === mc44 is now known as emma [16:18] hello, wud someone tell me where i can find a "walkthru" on installing xubuntu on a g3 from a usb drive? [16:19] ive been googling my butt of [16:23] i found some instructions pertaining to 7.04, but its quite confusing the way they r arranged, it doesnt seem to be step by step, but scattered [16:30] i think if i knew the correct order in which to do the nesecary steps, id b able to install xubuntu rom a usb drive [16:30] i dont know where to start tho [16:31] any1 willing to help me with this? [16:33] if i need to move this to another channel, lemme kno [16:36] hello [16:37] What can I use to acces Windows Live Messenger? [16:39] I am installing Xubuntu now for the first time [16:43] Overdrive: I think pidgin may support it [16:45] @TheSheep: Thank you, i wil try it. [17:07] My xubuntu session keeps crashing [17:09] What version? What precedes the crash? [17:09] 10.04 and me clicking on the panel does the job [17:10] Or even on the desktop [17:10] Just clicking on anything and it crashes [17:10] It didn't used to [17:11] That's as technical as I'm going to get [17:22] My xubuntu desktop session keeps crashing judgen [17:24] Very strange, mark76. Have you installed anything weird or messed with any packages? [17:26] I don't mess with packages. And the first time it happened I completely removed all Xubuntu and Xfce4 applications and then reinstalled the basics [17:26] I think it might be the notification area [17:27] tried disabling the osd mark76? [17:27] Can you run an Xfce session without xfce4-panel? [17:27] just to see if that is what causes it [17:27] What's the OSD? [17:29] mark76: just rename the panel binary like this "sudo mv /usr/bin/xfce4-panel /usr/bin/xfce4-panel.bak" and if you want to restor you just rename it back to xfce4-panel [17:29] then the panel is disabled at next login [17:29] I'm going to try it now [17:29] BBL [17:37] It's not the panel [17:38] Was this a Xubuntu install or an Ubuntu install that you added Xfce to? [17:38] The latter [17:38] mark76, did you install xubuntu-desktop? [17:39] Yep [17:39] Is there a conflict? [17:39] no [17:39] Okay [17:39] if you installed only the xfce packages, you might have the problem because of that [17:39] but installing xubuntu-desktop should make sure it's not about that [17:40] Would removing the xfce packages do any good? [17:41] no [17:41] Okay [17:41] when does i crash? [17:41] As soon as I click on the desktop [17:42] I've disabled xfdesktop [17:42] Let me see if that makes any difference [17:42] BIAB [17:45] Nope. It's not xfdesktop either [17:45] are you using nautilus? [17:46] In Xfce? No [17:47] * likemindead has found mixing ubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop to be a very bad idea.... [17:47] likemindead, really? that shouldn't be. have you found what's not working? [17:48] Just lots of buggyness in general. [17:48] It's probably been a year or so since I did, though. [17:48] I'm pure Xubuntu these days. :D [17:48] never had any bug reports/common errors about that... [17:48] *had = seen [17:49] charlie-tca could know. (re: ubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop installed at the same time seems to be a bad idea) [17:50] could know what? [17:50] charlie-tca, see the text in parenthesis [17:50] A little slow but working; Xubuntu Maverick installed using the desktop image on 400MHz cpu with 384 MB ram [17:50] I've only added Openbox to my Xubuntu install. It worked fine. [17:51] I agree. It doesn't seem to work well anymore. They have changed to many dependencies in Gnome, and Xubuntu does not install them. [17:51] so the fix would be? [17:52] There is not one that I know of starting with about 10.04 [17:52] They won't even allow an upgrade now with more than one desktop installed [17:53] Could try removing the -desktop meta package, that used to work. [17:53] Which one? [17:54] should not matter which one. The -desktop package is only used for initial installation to insure all the packages are satisfied. It is used again when upgrading [17:54] K [17:54] Removing now [17:56] Right. DInner time [17:56] BBL [17:57] can anyone confirm if 10.10 will have support for libva/vaapi decoding on an intel 4500HD graphics chip? [17:57] Sadly i have no idea. [17:58] I recently bought a new laptop, and it's not powerful enough to play half of my video files smoothly on xubuntu >__<; [17:58] You could try the desktop cd live environment [17:59] How much memory in that laptop? [18:04] charlie-tca, 2 gigs, plenty [18:04] the problem is the cpu: 1.4gHz core2, single core. [18:04] a lot of 720p files lag/stop playing randomly [18:05] shouldn't be. My 1.5GHz P4 with 1GB ram works [18:05] do you have a real graphics card? [18:05] AGP, nvidia [18:05] That probably helps [18:06] Maybe. That intel is built in to the motherboard, isn't it? [18:06] yep [18:17] Oh, oh!: http://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/xubuntu/releases/lucid/release/ [18:17] The Link for Gemany is broken. :( [18:17] so apparently they are just not mirroring xubuntu anymore [18:18]