[00:38] http://doctormo.org/2010/09/25/five-year-ago-in-ubuntu/ === nigelbabu is now known as nigelb [03:47] ScottK: I can fire it up now. [03:48] ScottK: it will be running from right now. i am heading back out tomorrow morning, actually in about 8 hours I will be gone, but I will leave it running for you [03:49] if you want, you can shut it doww when you are done. i will be back tomorrow evening. feel free to leave it running though if you still need it [04:07] ScottK: I fixed a FTBFS here: https://launchpad.net/~alessandro-ghersi/+archive/ppa/+packages [04:07] (serna-free package) [04:39] nixternal: Thanks. [06:32] lex79: Uploaded. I did edit the changelog entry slightly for clarity. Thank you for your contribution to Ubuntu. [07:32] ScottK: ok, will look into it [11:05] morning [11:05] apachelogger: ScottK: any news / decisions on the KRandRTray issues? [11:22] apachelogger: ScottK: I now put this in $HOME/.kde/share/config/krandrrc : [11:22] [Display] [11:22] ApplyOnStartup=true [11:22] SyncTrayApp=true [11:22] let's see if it fixes it [11:44] apachelogger: http://futurist.se/gldt/wp-content/uploads/gldt1009.png :: awesome graphz [11:45] omg.... suse is derived from slackware :O [11:45] red hat wins in every direction tho [11:49] markey: not on my side [11:50] fortunately enough fglrx is now working with mav's X so I can upgrade again [11:50] shadeslayer: well, suse pretty soon didn't have much to do with slackware anymore [11:52] * apachelogger ponders installing x64 again [11:54] * shadeslayer has been x64 all the way [11:55] apachelogger: adobe even has 64 bit flash now... [11:56] * apachelogger does not care foobar about flash [11:59] hey guys, our libMTP check in Amarok fails to detect Maverick's libmtp 1.0.3-4 [11:59] the CMake check looks like this: [11:59] macro_log_feature( MTP_FOUND "libmtp" "Enable Support for portable media devices that use the media transfer protocol" "http://libmtp.sourceforge.net/" FALSE "1.0.0" "") [11:59] result is this: [12:00] -- The following OPTIONAL packages could NOT be located on your system. [12:00] -- Consider installing them to enable more features from this software. [12:00] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- [12:00] * libmtp (1.0.x or higher) [12:00] Enable Support for portable media devices that use the media transfer protocol [12:00] any ideas? :) [12:01] !info libmtp [12:01] Package libmtp does not exist in lucid [12:01] hm [12:01] actually [12:01] markey: pkg-config is installed? [12:01] weird... [12:01] its in main [12:02] apachelogger: yes, it's installed [12:02] anyone here got a Amarok checkout from git, or Amarok 2.3.2 source for testing this? [12:02] 2.3.2 should suffice [12:03] markey: what is the output of dpkg -L libmtp-dev [12:03] apachelogger: http://pastebin.com/qWUchmD7 [12:04] * shadeslayer started cloning amarok 2 days ago but his connection gave way [12:04] strange [12:04] http://download.kde.org/download.php?url=stable/amarok/2.3.2/src/amarok-2.3.2.tar.bz2 [12:05] markey: sudo apt-get --reinstall install libmtp8 libmtp-dev [12:06] apachelogger: same problem :/ [12:07] either our check is wrong, or the libmtp package has a bug [12:07] is my guess ;) [12:07] both look fine [12:07] then someone please try this on another computer [12:07] unless the pkconfig file of libmtp is broken [12:09] maverick contains 2.3.2 [12:09] and that was built with mtp [12:09] -- Found MTP: /usr/lib/libmtp.so [12:09] brb, I'm gonna test if the krandrrc fix worked [12:09] restarting kde [12:11] does not work :( [12:11] wtf [12:11] is there any fix for this? [12:11] (the KRandTrayBlah thingie) [12:12] lex79: pingly [12:13] did you see the announcement on kde-packagers? [12:13] should we backport the fix? [12:18] markey: our cmake didn't change, I have the same problem with taglib-extras, 1.0.1 is installed but it finds 0.1, so there is something wrong with package numbering in Maverick [12:19] apachelogger: ^ [12:19] we need ideas, fresh blood, any possible coffee with garlic [12:20] ame for libmtp, 1.0.3 is installed but it finds 0.3 [12:20] usually, in Ubuntu packages it reads n:n.n.n, no? [12:20] bad so versions? [12:21] ( which are packaged in the packages ) [12:21] markey, Mamarok: pkg-config --modversion libmtp [12:21] mark@serenity:~/kde/build/amarok$ pkg-config --modversion libmtp [12:21] 1.0.3 [12:22] likewise here [12:23] but I get something different for libtag-extras-dev, moment (the pastebin widget doesn't work in Maverick btw) [12:23] like most other widgets... [12:23] 0_o [12:23] works for me [12:23] http://pastebin.ca/1948819 :: a example [12:23] http://pastebin.ca/1948818 [12:24] shadeslayer: I can't use it, it shows a red close button only, like most plasma widgets btw [12:24] and I have all plasma packages installed [12:24] Mamarok: like.. it shows that ALL the time? [12:25] shadeslayer: most of the time, the default widgets in the panel work, but I tried to change the clock, no other clock works [12:25] system monitor doesn't work either [12:26] the current Maverick is by no means fit for release, dolphin freezes the desktop in 50% of the cases [12:27] weird.. cant reproduce a single thing :( [12:27] Mamarok: brand new install? [12:27] shadeslayer: and I have a frsh install [12:27] all things new, I changed the KD to SSD [12:27] HD* [12:27] installed from the beta iso [12:27] so much weirdness .... [12:27] Mamarok: everything updated i suppose? [12:28] it's rocket fast, but that's the SSD [12:28] yep, everthing uptdated [12:28] :P [12:28] cause the krunner lags terribly in Lucid, at least here it doesn't, but I guess that is again the SSD [12:30] markey: then I really do not understand why your cmake foo refuses to find it [12:30] markey: did you try a completely clean build directory? [12:30] btw: Choqok on Maverick == total borkage [12:30] apachelogger: I did, same problem [12:30] new git checkout, new build directory, all things new [12:31] the shipped package misses OAuth, and self-compiled SVN trunk is totally borked, shows empty dialogs [12:31] markey: look at the choqok code and you know why it likes to break [12:31] markey: whut? [12:31] :O [12:31] no one uploaded 0.9.90 [12:32] :S [12:32] :S [12:32] * apachelogger burns maverick image [12:32] i filed a request for that and eveyrhing [12:32] apachelogger: should I look at the code, or would I risk going blind? [12:32] shadeslayer: you need to go poke people [12:32] I can't imagine why the settings dialog is just empty.... [12:32] you bun too is so full of politics things will rearely move if you just file things [12:32] apachelogger: dude bug 628051 [12:32] Launchpad bug 628051 in choqok (Ubuntu) "FFe: Choqok choqok 0.9.90" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/628051 [12:33] markey: blindness... [12:33] X.X [12:33] markey: settings dialog could be coming form ksycoca mismatch foo stuff [12:33] since I think it uses KCMs [12:33] ah ok [12:33] I'll do a kbuildsycoca4 [12:33] markey: well, where is i installed? [12:33] it will need to be /usr or kbuildsycoca4 will not find the desktop file [12:34] apachelogger: I install everything self-buit in /home/mark/kde (I have the env set up correctly) [12:34] it' [12:34] s ok :) [12:34] shadeslayer: poking me has no effect since I am not on the release team :P [12:34] oh [12:34] apachelogger: bingo that fixed it, thx [12:34] markey: do you still have the package choqok around? [12:34] no... [12:34] nuked it [12:34] but it was missing OAuth [12:34] oh, ok [12:34] for sure [12:34] so, no Twitter [12:34] it was Beta2 or something [12:34] sometimes ksycoca also likes to fall over its own cache [12:34] 0.8.5 [12:35] (i.e. in a not properly set up neon :P) [12:35] markey: how can it miss OAuth :S [12:35] * shadeslayer has that ^ [12:35] shadeslayer: can you try on your box? [12:35] hm [12:35] mine didn'T work right *shrug* [12:35] markey: like remove choqok and add it again? [12:36] yeah, will do soonish [12:36] if you do me a favor too :p [12:36] whut? :D [12:36] look at the Amarok libMTP issue [12:36] :) [12:36] i haz no idea whats the problem :P [12:36] maybe apachelogger knows [12:36] me neither :p [12:37] he is packaging overlord [12:37] apachelogger is a lame ass packager, he actually runs Lunid :p [12:37] don't tell anyone [12:37] I promised him to keep it secret [12:37] markey: http://pastebin.ca/1948830 [12:37] Lucid even [12:37] so it does bring in libqoauth [12:38] shadeslayer: well [12:38] Version: 0.9.85-0ubuntu1 [12:38] is stone age [12:38] yeah [12:38] why did you not upgrade? [12:38] 0.9.91 is current [12:38] that [12:38] and the fact that we need new qoauth [12:39] which came out AFTER FF .. and haz new API [12:39] markey: download choqok from here https://edge.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/kde-extra [12:40] and promote my FFe :P ... maybe i can get a SRU [12:40] i.e convert my FFe into a SRU later [12:40] dude ok (I should really work now, but meh). please find me someone to test the AMarok libMTP issues though, ok? [12:40] markey: im cloning repo to see what can be done [12:40] thx [12:41] slow interwebz here [12:42] dude [12:42] markey: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/56338901/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-amd64.amarok_2:2.3.2-0ubuntu2_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz [12:42] -- Found MTP: /usr/lib/libmtp.so [12:43] shadeslayer: did you see my hint about the numbering issue? libmtp and libtag-extras have the same problem [12:43] hmm [12:44] shadeslayer: your Choqok package works fine [12:44] thanks [12:44] markey: \o/ [12:44] waaait [12:44] it's the old 0.85 again [12:44] see also this: http://pastebin.ca/1948818 [12:44] should it be? [12:45] erm [12:45] 0.9.85 even [12:45] markey: well.. if upstream forgot to bump the version it could be [12:45] but [12:45] ok [12:45] apt-cache poilicy choqok [12:45] * Mamarok needs a restart, laters [12:45] choqok: [12:45] Installed: 0.9.85-0ubuntu1 [12:45] Candidate: 0.9.85-0ubuntu1 [12:45] 0_o [12:46] markey: did you add the ppa? [12:46] and what does version table say? [12:47] here's the Changelog between 0.9.85 and 0.9.90: [12:47] http://pastebin.com/pfD62PaU [12:47] pretty important fix, regarding KWallet [12:47] you might want to use 0.9.90 [12:47] oooops [12:47] shadeslayer: I'm stupid [12:47] sec [12:47] forgot to update.... [12:47] :P [12:49] apachelogger: btw how do i check which package a package depends on? [12:49] shadeslayer: sorry man, it works fine now [12:49] like .. foo depends on bar .. how do i find bar? apt-cache rdepends? [12:49] correct version [12:49] markey: :D [12:50] good :D [12:50] apt-cache depends foo? [12:50] yofel: whats rdepends for then? [12:50] apt-cache rdepends bar will list foo [12:51] ah [12:51] yofel: what does the | before depends indicate? [12:53] like |Depends: libswscale0 [12:53] not sure, I think it's the same as usually: alternative dependency [12:57] ScottK: i think it can be moved to universe [12:57] wrt kplayer [13:02] erm..hmm [13:04] Should'nt we ban giovanni? he is spamming our mailing lists, it's very annoying... [13:10] Mamarok: i haz issue : TagLib does not have ASF support compiled in. [13:10] which is weird 0_o [13:11] apachelogger: ^^ [13:11] gmm [13:11] -- Taglib found: -L/home/shadeslayer/kde/lib -ltag :: why oh why [13:12] bahaha ... works now [13:14] Mamarok: lulz : -- checking for module 'libmtp' [13:14] -- found libmtp, version 1.0.3 [13:14] -- Found MTP but version requirements not met [13:14] and then : * libmtp (1.0.0 or higher) [13:14] under optional deps not found [13:17] macro_log_feature( MTP_FOUND "libmtp" "Enable Support for portable media devices that use the media transfer protocol" "http://libmtp.sourceforge.net/" FALSE "1.0.0" "") [13:17] is that right? [13:26] markey: Mamarok mtp doesnt work for me too... libtag-extras does [13:27] and we have http://gitweb.kde.org/amarok/amarok.git/blobdiff/d1077c6bdc4fd6fe91147af86567e3c4a932cab2..e4e1f0d6066217386dd54373b2edcca97109004c:/CMakeLists.txt [13:31] JontheEchidna: ping [13:31] shadeslayer: asf is in taglib IIRC [13:31] apachelogger: yeah.. it was picking up my neon install -.- [13:32] * apachelogger notes that jockey is not working [13:32] which i have compiled without asf [13:32] apachelogger: did it ever work? :P [13:32] iDunno [13:32] I trust that JontheEchidna made it work at some point [13:32] doesnt work for me since 9.04 [13:33] i always install via apt-get install nvidia-current [13:33] * apachelogger throws fist on desk [13:33] apachelogger: so either somehting is wrong with out mtp package or amarok [13:34] * shadeslayer is out of ppas to upload to [13:35] HI [13:35] fdo: \o [13:43] iDon't have proprietary hardware anymore, so me working on jockey in the future isn't all that likely [13:44] apachelogger: ^ [13:56] sdlksdsdlvgj'jg'g [13:56] IN THE NAME OF SAURON!!!!!! [13:56] how full of shit can this be [13:56] so [13:56] on second start [13:56] it works [13:56] granted one removes the file that is blocking it from working [13:56] so why does it not work at first start [13:56] answer: I HAVE NO IDEA [13:56] jockey-- [13:57] also I get a crash notification from apport [13:57] so I ask it to show me the flipping report [13:57] AND NOTHING HAPPENS [13:57] educated guess why not [13:58] apport-kde is not around [13:58] \o/ [13:59] apachelogger: what?! [13:59] how is that possible? :P [13:59] I dunno [13:59] kubuntu-desktop recommends apport-kde ... [13:59] why is it not working [13:59] aha [13:59] recommends? :O [13:59] apport-kde is there [13:59] you are just not supposed to use i [13:59] /usr/share/apport/apport-kde [13:59] clearly if the binary is in share you are no supposed to use it [14:00] though binary is not the right name since it is not binary [14:00] make it s/binary/executable [14:00] SO [14:00] WHY IS IT NOT WORKING [14:00] well, it should only be called by apport-bug after checking what should be used [14:01] void ApportEvent::run() [14:01] { [14:01] KToolInvocation::kdeinitExec("/usr/share/apport/apport-kde"); [14:01] } [14:01] although that doesn't answer the notification issue ./ [14:01] so [14:01] another fun thig [14:01] once you got jockey to actually tell you that there is junk to be installed [14:01] and you are like nah, that shit I do not want and click ignore [14:02] apachelogger expects: shit exits and frees RAMz [14:02] what happens: shit remains sitting around doing absolutely none and entirely nothing [14:02] well [14:02] nothing is again the wrong word here [14:02] make it s/nothing/eat the flipping RAM out of my flipping machine [14:36] any news wrt libMTP and Amarok? [14:44] markey: what's wrong there? [14:51] debfx: [14:52] -- The following OPTIONAL packages could NOT be located on your system. [14:52] -- Consider installing them to enable more features from this software. [14:52] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- [14:52] * libmtp (1.0.0 or higher) [14:52] Enable Support for portable media devices that use the media transfer protocol [14:52] we depend on >= 1.0.0 [14:52] we've had 1.0.2 since lucid [14:53] JontheEchidna: exactly [14:53] so why is it not found? [14:53] and 1.0.3 in maverick [14:53] markey: where does it say that? [14:53] macro_log_feature( MTP_FOUND "libmtp" "Enable Support for portable media devices that use the media transfer protocol" "http://libmtp.sourceforge.net/" FALSE "1.0.0" "") [14:53] ^ the actual CMake check [14:54] debfx: [14:54] markey: have you installed libmtp-dev? [14:54] "-- Found MTP but version requirements not met" [14:54] of course ;) [14:54] I'm not that dumb [14:54] debfx: JontheEchidna i confirm this issue [14:54] we've been over this before [14:54] no idea why it doesnt pick it up [14:54] either our check is wrong, or the package has a bug [14:54] works for the normal package builds: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/56339087/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-i386.amarok_2:2.3.2-0ubuntu2_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz [14:55] markey: JontheEchidna IIRC that depend was just bumped [14:55] fro 0.0.3 to 1.0.0 [14:55] correct [14:55] http://gitweb.kde.org/amarok/amarok.git/blobdiff/d1077c6bdc4fd6fe91147af86567e3c4a932cab2..e4e1f0d6066217386dd54373b2edcca97109004c:/CMakeLists.txt [14:55] I bumped it for Amarok 2.3.2 [14:55] which is fine, as all distros have the lib [14:55] markey: oh 2.3.2 has that bump? [14:55] yes [14:56] the buildds picked up libmtp just fine for amarok 2.3.2 [14:56] ah.. now THAT makes it weird [14:56] (we asked the packagers before bumping) [14:56] debfx: thats whats amazing.. buildd's pick it up but not full blown installs [14:57] quick question: how is this program started: [14:57] i googleearth-package - utility to automatically build a Debian package of Google Earth [14:57] I can't figure it out [14:58] markey: dpkg -L googleearth-package [14:58] that will list out installed files [14:58] then you can check if theres a man page and go on from there :) [14:59] thanks [14:59] make-googleearth-package [14:59] Google Earth for GNU/Linux 5.2.1.1588 [14:59] Unrecognized Google Earth version (use --force to build anyway) [14:59] hm [14:59] should I force it? [14:59] *shrug* ... never used it [15:00] kk [15:00] could lead to breakages .. cant say [15:03] markey, shadeslayer: amarok detects libmtp just fine on my system (maverick) [15:03] :o [15:03] debfx: what did you install? :D [15:04] and what cmake command? [15:04] Oo [15:04] shadeslayer: no cmake parameters [15:05] * markey is on Maverick too [15:05] :S [15:05] does "pkg-config --atleast-version=1.0.0 libmtp" return 0 or 1? [15:05] cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=$HOME/kde -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=debugfull $HOME/kde/src/amarok [15:05] is what I use [15:06] debfx: returns nothing at all [15:06] i dont use any parameters as well [15:06] markey: what's the exit code? [15:06] markey: oi [15:06] debfx: how to check? [15:07] hmm [15:07] echo $? [15:07] directly after the pkg-config command [15:07] i dont suppose kde supplies libmtp with their libs [15:08] mark@serenity:~/kde/build/amarok$ pkg-config --atleast-version=1.0.0 libmtp | echo $? [15:08] 0 [15:08] is that correct? [15:10] markey: pkg-config --atleast-version=1.0.0 libmtp ; echo $? [15:12] mark@serenity:~$ pkg-config --atleast-version=1.0.0 libmtp ; echo $? [15:12] 0 [15:16] markey: ok so pkg-config detects libmtp just fine [15:17] you could add some debug message() calls to FindMtp.cmake to see where exactly it fails [15:17] I really don't get it... [15:17] yeah [15:17] it might be buggy [15:17] in fact I bet it is [15:44] debfx: do you have an idea about it not finding libtag-extras? [15:45] similar to libmtp, it finds 0.1 instead of 1.0.1, as if the first number can't be read [15:54] Mamarok: no, it works fine for me [15:54] it doesn't here, libtax-extras-dev is 1.0.1 but it doesn't find it [15:54] libtags* [15:59] Mamarok: could you pastebin the cmake output? [16:00] debfx: http://pastebin.ca/1948930 [16:06]