[08:08] <nonowe> Hello all
[08:09] <nonowe> Is launchpad the centralized way to contribute to Ubuntu development ?
[08:11]  * MTecknology sits patiently awaitng to see package received for packaging in ppa
[08:11] <MTecknology> nonowe: no - but it's darned close
[08:12] <spiv> nonowe: I'm not certain what you mean by that.  It is a tool for helping Ubuntu developers (and translators, etc) collaborate.
[08:12] <spiv> (As well as other open source projects, of course)
[08:13] <nonowe> ok
[16:13] <AnAnt> Hello, what's wrong with launchpad ?
[16:14] <AnAnt> I mean the bug reporting fails
[18:54] <zaytsev> hi folks. is it normal that ppa builds take about 40 minutes to get published?
[19:13] <zaytsev> Also it's quite funny to see the package switching between virtual machines. It's not quite clear to me why this is happening
[19:53] <zaytsev> Damn, it's so painful to backport. Imagine backporting a program which has deps on 3 libraries and each of them has deps on 2 libraries.
[19:53] <zaytsev> That is I can't build a library until all deps are published, but at the same time, higher-level deps are also unbuildable.
[20:11] <kklimonda> zaytsev: that's why, most of the time, we don't backport packages that require new dependencies. It's hard and unpredictable
[20:12] <zaytsev> kklimonda, it's not too hard, it's just that if the TAT is so slow it's a pita
[20:14] <zaytsev> argh! now it's speex. yet another 40 minutes of waiting time.
[20:15] <crimsun> zaytsev: please tell me that you're using prevu, at least.
[20:16] <zaytsev> crimsun, hmmm... ok, I won't tell you. I didn't even know that it exists.
[20:19] <zaytsev> hmmm, prevu seems to be a kind on pdebuild
[20:20] <crimsun> the idea is to apply for all the backports in one pass
[20:21] <zaytsev> I'm now sure how it will help me to backport meaty stuff from maverick to hardy for instance, while they almost always need some stupid minor changes, such as source format 1.0, add quilt to the build-deps, remove quilt-dh (thanks to those, opposing to dh7 backporting to hardy!!!) etc.
[20:24] <zaytsev> I wonder if it can print a tree of stuff to backport then, I do it quicky and bingo =)
[20:24] <zaytsev> Ok, now speex is there of course without any problems, but wait, I have to wait for 40 more minutes to restart the build =(
[21:56] <saper> hm, getting https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/28068 for weeks already