[00:06] does ethernet internet-connection-sharing Just Work in 10.10? [00:49] has anyone tested 10.10 on a macbook pro? [01:07] This is awesome... http://lease-color-copiers.com/Why_is_Microsoft_Word_So_Expensive.html [02:28] Can anybody check out my ata errors from dmesg? http://pastebin.com/uc6dZsnt [03:05] Hmm, after updating today my sound is all messed up [03:05] Flash sound don't work, wine sound don't work :( [03:06] Rhythmbox does though, I think it's something to do with ALSA via pulseaudio === nigelbabu is now known as nigelb [03:26] Can you disable the global menu bar in Netbook Edition? [04:19] hi my 64bit marverick cannot sleep or hibernate [04:19] it displays dri errors : atom bios loop [04:19] and atom_execute_table_locked [04:20] anyhow it is not written in any log that i can review [04:20] just on screen message. could someone help me [04:20] both are DRM error [04:21] archer, not sure who is available at this time of day... you may want to post this again at a different time [04:21] archer, are you in US? [04:21] china [04:22] yes. it sounds like uk or us nick name [04:22] archer, ok US it is about 11:30 PM and in europe it is about 4:30 an d 5:30 AM [04:22] hahaha [04:22] archer, I am in US but dont have an answer for you but most of the people here I believe are in europe [04:23] so are most of ubuntu dev / debug team are in eur and U.S [04:23] ? [04:23] archer, well It seems many are yes [04:23] thanks for the tip [04:23] but at that time i need sleep too [04:23] archer, I am sure there are many in US also... but as I said it is already 11:30 here [04:23] archer, I know... the different time zones can make it difficult [04:24] archer, what time is it there now? [04:24] you helps make it less. thanks [04:24] over here, utf-8 utc+8 [04:24] about 11:24 am [04:25] archer, ah ok then maybe at 4PM or so for you it would be a good time to post ..yes? [04:25] i remember that irc is the fastest way to get a help. [04:25] NP. [04:25] cool :) [04:25] but it is sunday too [04:26] archer, ok it is saturday here so if you post later today it should get through to someone :) [04:26] it is another practical issue besides timezones [04:26] will they be avail on Sun? [04:26] archer, it is also saturday in europe as well [04:27] i think it is crazy if they do work on this nonprofit proj on weekend [04:27] maybe monday is better [04:27] archer, if that works better for you :) [04:33] where are you from coz? [04:33] it sounds like the shop name [04:33] cozy or something [04:49] I never make fglrx driver for ati work for my maverick 64. any idea? [05:25] argh, PA keeps defaulting to muting my USB sound card! [06:19] DanaG: What do you mean by "PA"? power amplifier? [06:19] pulseaudio [06:19] PulseAudio [06:20] nigelb, bazhang Thank you. [06:20] welcome [06:22] [in Tilda:] '~$ mc /sys/power; TERM environment variable needs set.' I reported this to Launchpad. The bug persists even after the big distribution upgrade yesterday. How to patch this bug temporarily? [06:47] '~$ env | grep TERM' does not produce any output. But on my Lucid computer: '~$ env | grep TERM; TERM=xterm.' Where should I set the TERM environment variable? [06:50] gee.. i just 'echo $TERM' [06:51] $ echo $TERM [06:51] xterm [06:51] It really should be getting set as part of the scripts.. xterm is not always the proper 'setting' for TERM. [06:51] You could set it in your .bashrc if you wanted to. but thats proberly overkill. [07:16] Dr_Willis: '~$ echo "$TERM"; dumb'. How should it change that to obtain the result '~$ echo "$TERM"; xterm'? [07:16] export TERM=xterm [07:16] its just a envuiroment variable you set like any other [07:16] Its supposed to be set up where the startup scripts determine your proper 'terminal' and set it properly [07:17] this is from a normal xterm you are getting this? or where exactly? [07:19] I am getting it in a GNOME terminal. === ZNC_shookees is now known as shookees [07:43] hi, my nvidia-xconfig settings are just not getting saved currently. this started since the last few updates...the refresh rate is getting set to 75 even though i set it to 60 or auto...post reboot if i try to change it the first thing it tells me is that te necessary extensions are not supported do u want to use the graphic vendors tool instead. [07:47] Say, why do kernel-ppa kernels have inotify disabled? [09:44] Hey guys. I just installed ubuntu 10.10 beta. And I am using chromium web browser. But I cant see the video on youtube which I had no problem when using 10.04. can anyone help me please? [09:44] Ops, it only showed half the things I typed. [09:45] oh now shows everything.. something wrong with my xchat xd. [09:47] It says that I need to install adobe flash. So I pressed install, then it brings me to a page saying that Your Google Chrome browser already includes the latest Adobe® Flash® Player built-in. [09:51] pdwgg: You could try to go to chrome.google.com and download Google Chrome...not sure if it'll help, but Chromium is after all a different thing. [09:57] 3 days to RC [09:57] i mean, 4 [10:00] Hi shazzr. Thanks for the advice. But how come I did not have this problem when I was using 10.04? I was using chromium too. === shookees is now known as ZNC_shookees === ord is now known as qwm [10:16] Anyone have news about the status of the open broadcom drivers? [10:21] hi, im trying to scan somethong with simplescan, preview looks good, but when i save it i get an empty pdf [10:36] what's the package to report bugs in splash screen? (plymouth?) [10:37] Hi guys can anyone help me.... upgraded to maverick and my remote desktop stopped working....fired up the vino preferences from the admin menu, however it says "your desktop is only reachable on the local network....others can access your computer using the address localhost. (in lucid it used to display the ip address of the computer on the network). have set the computer up with static ip. any suggestions? [10:48] hi :) [10:49] hi maedox [10:50] pmjp: hi [10:50] GMSPENCE____: did you forward 5800 and 5900 in your router? [10:50] so is it worth upgrading to the beta [10:51] Im running the netbook version [10:51] i've ban maverick since alpha [10:51] er ran [10:51] and? [10:51] m4rtin: if you are tlkaing about the display settings there are fixes already [10:51] it works well [10:52] TiK: all was nice until I installed ATI proprietary drivers [10:52] now it's thoroughly messed [10:52] TIk - port forwarding not necessary...it's a local network connection. not using it externally [10:52] but yeah for external connections 58 and 5900 forwarded [10:53] oh i misread [10:53] hold [10:53] if i ssh into the machine and launch x11vnc i can get a vnc connection.... so the problem is lying with vino-server from what i can make out [10:54] thanks guys later [10:54] GMSPENCE____: old thread, but http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8742 says that there is no way to specify the listen host for vino [10:54] GMSPENCE____: localhost just means [10:54] the local ip [10:54] TiK: actually, it doesn't; it means the loopback address [10:54] which is only accessible from that single device [10:55] yup there lies my problem [10:55] "only reachable on the local network" ie no exteral connections [10:55] can one of u guys check ur install and see if it is just my machine? [10:55] so whats your issue? [10:55] local network != localhost [10:55] ok [10:55] i can do that [10:56] so the issue is, if vino listens on localhost, no device on the network can reach it [10:56] it has my local ip and my desktop [10:56] in lucid it used to give the local network ip address... 192.168.1.2 [10:56] GMSPENCE____: could be an issue when it's statically set [10:56] can you try with DHCP and see if that resolves it? [10:57] mine gives the local ip addy [10:57] don't have network manager installed just realised [10:57] i specified my ip address using /etc/network/interfaces [10:57] hmmm i wonder [10:58] GMSPENCE____: that sounds probable... although still undesirable behaviour [10:59] what's the package name for the network manager again? just NetworkManager? [10:59] heh [10:59] no idea [11:00] away to restart back soon [11:01] k k [11:01] oh wait i just realised why i no want network manager installed [11:01] i'm using that box as a dhcp server as well.... [11:04] GMSPENCE____: is that a problem? Set interface to static in network manager [11:04] in fact, network manager should detect that it's static from etc network interfaces [11:04] and it won't conflict with dhcp no? [11:05] i've always just removed it every time i've done a reinstall as i remember way back as far as ibex it was causing problems [11:05] GMSPENCE____: as far as I'm aware, no... never done that setup, but it's certainly respected my static preferences in recent releases [11:06] ok it's installing just now [11:06] will give it a bash [11:08] oh dear [11:08] that didn't look good [11:12] back [11:12] ok installed network manager - but no devices are showing up to set the preferences for [11:12] * GMSPENCE____ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [11:12] oh dear [11:12] that didn't look good [11:12] stumped [11:12] hmm, but does vino now detect it? [11:13] heh [11:13] it could be that there are no preferences because it's set in interfaces [11:13] if not: ubuntu-bug vino [11:13] and report that it doesn't correctly detect the IP when set via interfaces [11:14] me thinks i'm gonna have to go down that route [11:14] oh well [11:15] there are other vnc kits you can try to accomplish the same thing [11:16] but they are less visually orientated for setup than vino [11:16] otherwise, you can setup ssh forwarding [11:16] so get ssh listening on the network address, forwarding to localhost [11:17] oh, also: [11:17] http://www.bani.com.br/lang/en/2007/04/hidden-features-of-vino-remote-desktop-access/ [11:17] you might be able to set ip:port in alternative_port [11:19] having a look just now.... [11:52] are keyboard shortcuts working ? some fail, here [11:53] ALT+F2 fails, custom shortcuts fail. Any hint ? [11:56] hi, anyone can help me with no sound problem? alsamixer shows all channels are there, kde4 controls shows my sound card and hdmi card, but no sound comes out of th speakers... [11:59] is happened yesterday, The sound was fine then I plugged in heaphones, and I had no more sound anymore, even after unplugging [12:07] untill pulseaudio introduction all worked much better, I had even possibility to adjust channels for my speakser.... [12:29] thanks to crappy pa I had to kill virtualbox (it didi not start) and lost all my work uhh I should thank the person that invented that problematic program that didn't solve any problems but introduced new ones [12:35] sobczyk: wait, your complaining that an alpha version of an operating system is unstable? [12:35] oh no wait, it's beta now isn't it. [12:35] alpha? [12:35] PA is alpha? [12:35] Ubuntu Maverick is beta [12:36] pa + phonon work fine here, even when un-/plugging the headphones - then again, I only use simple stereo sound here [12:36] that said, after a recent update on maverick I've been having sound problems, flash sound and wine sound no longer work :( [12:36] anyone else having problems with it? [12:37] software not starting because PA is down is not even alpha [12:37] I killed pa, started it manually and sound works [12:38] only problem is there is no sound setting directly in kde [12:38] also, pulseaudio is beta too btw :) [12:38] pulseaudio v 0.9.21, and pulseaudio does solve lots of problems [12:38] btw might I ask why there is no channel setting in PA [12:39] I could set independently front (laptop speakers) or center (headphones) [12:39] in alsa [12:39] pa seems to work these days for me better than without - although IA32-libs is currently broken meaning that flash is broken [12:40] Azelphur: what does it solve for end user that I'm not aware of? [12:42] sobczyk: mainly per-application volume control [12:42] (imo, I don't know much about pulse) [12:42] it somehow worked for me bofore PA [12:42] penguin42: ah, so that's whats causing my flash and wine to have no sound :) [12:42] Azelphur: Flash certainly if you are on 64bit; not sure about wine [12:43] Is there a bug report open? I'm waiting on that fix :p [12:43] yea I'm on 64bit, and wine is a 32bit application as it doesn't do CPU emulation [12:43] Azelphur: Yeh hang on, I'll find it - if you roll back to ia32-libs_20090808ubuntu4_amd64.deb it fixes it [12:43] cool :P [12:44] hmm my original is bug 647538 [12:44] Launchpad bug 647538 in ia32-libs (Ubuntu) "[Maverick] Flash stopped using pulseaudio (dup-of: 647484)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/647538 [12:44] Launchpad bug 647484 in ia32-libs (Ubuntu) "20090808ubuntu5 breaks libpulsedsp.so" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/647484 [12:44] cool :) [12:44] ty [12:45] if you feel like seeing if it effects wine too, just run winecfg go to audio and click test [12:45] it'll say audio test failed [12:46] Hey guys, upgrading to Maverick now. [12:46] Is there any major issue I should expect? [12:46] andycc: Well then subscribe to and add a note to that I'd say [12:47] penguin42: Subscribe to what? [12:47] * penguin42 wonders wth to do with that bug; it's appeared in the last week of the beta and now stuff has frozen I don't know if it will get fixed, or if it'll get done almost immediately after release [12:47] andycc: Sorry, not you - I meant Azelphur [12:48] Oh, sorry :D [12:48] yea :) [12:48] andycc: apparently audio with 32bit applications, such as flash just broke on 64bit :p [12:48] might effect you, probably be fixed before too long. [12:48] Azelphur: well I guess I'm lucky I'm on 32-bit... [12:48] :) [12:49] you could use native 64bit flash.. [12:49] not in the archive though [12:49] anyone knows how to use the i/o kernel limit function [12:50] hey, I was following instructions here http://crashbit.homelinux.com/node/1770 to get 3d working on my computer [12:50] after I installed nouveau-firmware package, my keyboard isnt responsive in x windows -- except if I replug it in at the login [12:51] so .. I uninstalled the package and .. the behavior did n ot revert! [12:51] how can I fix this? I tried reinstalling gdm [12:51] hi all [12:51] its got to be something specific to nouveau instead [12:51] I would guess [12:51] i hef some problem wit reading .htaccess file [12:52] robisinho: Hmm a little odd, do you have a xorg.conf ? [12:52] site confit http://pastebin.org/1206879 [12:52] no, I had to remove my olkd xorg.conf to get startx to work after first upgrading to 10.10 [12:53] robisinho: It's an odd interaction; input and graphics driver; when it doesn't work maybe look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? [12:54] penguin42, let me boot it up [12:54] penguin42: where do I get ia32-libs_20090808ubuntu4_amd64.deb? [12:56] Azelphur: I found it on ftp.ubuntu.com in something like ubuntu/pool/universe/i/ia32-libs [12:56] ty :) [12:57] one thing I notice right away is I seem to be getting two of everything [12:57] theres two echos for the nouveau driver coming online, near the top, for example [12:58] ooh wait thats [12:58] from /var/cache/apt/archives if you still have it or try to search the out-of-sync mirrors, as the package should have been deleted from most by now [12:58] Azelphur: ^ [12:58] it says LoadModule "nv" -- but then the NOUVEAU driver is the one responding [12:59] there's a huge block of errors - (EE) FBDEV(0): FBIOPUTCMAP: invalid argument [13:00] yofel: I really wish there was a buffer of one version somewhere [13:00] yea, I found it [13:00] yofel: Was it you that spotted the missing 's' in the squid.conf init file I showed last week? [13:00] uploading it just in case anyone needs it [13:01] yup wine sound works now :D [13:01] penguin42, the main thing that looks like an obvious error is the couple hundred FBIOPUTCMAP errors [13:01] Azelphur: The downside is that it has an older Mesa that for me is broken :-( [13:02] hello, I downloaded kubuntu 10.10 daily-live and when I try to install nothing happens, can someone help? [13:02] yup flash works too, when the upload is done I'll put a download link on your bug report penguin42 :) [13:02] ubuntu: Yeh there is a screw up in the installer, there is a fix somewhere [13:02] penguin42, there's 717 of those [13:02] robisinho: Want to pastebin your log somewhere? [13:02] penguin42: buffer: +1 squid: yes [13:02] ooh [13:03] penguin42: oh [13:03] yeah I might be able to figure out how to do that without a keyobard, let me futz around with it [13:03] ubuntu: Now, if there was a log of this channel yesterday I could find where we'd discussed the same thing [13:03] !logs [13:03] Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - For LoCo channels, http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ [13:04] http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/09/25/%23ubuntu+1.html [13:05] ah yes [13:05] ubuntu: See http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/09/25/%23ubuntu+1.txt at about 13:14 [13:06] ubuntu: It's a really small 2 character change in a python script but I'm not sure where the script lives! [13:06] penguin42, Im not going to be able to load the url for a pastebin. got any ideas .. like how I can do that from the console? [13:06] robisinho: pastebinit [13:06] /usr/lib/ubiquity/ubiquity/misc.py it seems [13:06] robisinho: It's a package that uploads to pastebins from the command line [13:07] we really do need a bot that can recognise similar questions :-) [13:07] yay, it works [13:07] penguin42, yofel: thank you [13:08] penguin42, thanks -- http://pastebin.com/T79HXYfQ [13:09] robisinho: Well the FBIOPUTCMAP are probably related to the nouveu driver stuff at a guess, unlikely to be input [13:10] penguin42, I uninstalled the nouveau-firmware already [13:10] penguin42, my system was at that point in the installation guide after a vanilla 10.10 upgrade [13:11] robisinho: but there are a few No input driver/identifier specified (ignoring) - but they seem to be related to the mouse and wacom pad and not hte keyboard, so I don't know [13:12] penguin42, yea Im reading that those fbioputcmap errors are harmless [13:13] but there sure are a lot of them :P [13:13] penguin42, whats weird to me is, my system was working just fine. I do one command, apt-get install nouveau-firmware, and the keyboard stops working .. then I uninstall it and .. the system doesnt revert. [13:14] robisinho: Have you done a dpkg --purge nouveau-firmware ? [13:14] robisinho: Also, did apt-get install any extra packages ? [13:14] no, thank you, I'll try -- I did pastebinit [13:14] and I did reinstall gdm [13:14] trying to debug [13:15] penguin42, I had done sudo apt-get remove nouveau-firmware [13:16] dpkg wont let me purge it since it is already uninstalled .. I guess I could reinstall it and purge it :) [13:16] robisinho: it sometimes leaves some /etc files around - but still I'd say it's unlikely to be the actual problem with the keyboard input [13:16] penguin42, obviously it left something though [13:17] robisinho: To be honest it feels more like something else happened at a similar time [13:19] penguin42, yeah? but I havent installed nor uninstalled anything else at all .. well, there's the automatic system updates from that morning, but I think I even rebooted after that [13:19] robisinho: Yeh I know, but it doesn't feel like it's related [13:20] there was also one other thing, earlier that day I installed libphysfs1 and lincity-ng .. which didnt work either, but for a different reason) :P [13:20] penguin42, no it is definitely the nouveau-firmware package, nothing else changed [13:23] earlier I maganed to get xev to execute .. I cant remember how now, because the numberpad enter key doesnt work in x, but the numberpad arrow keys do [13:23] anyway xev shows the keypress events [13:26] [13:28] ooh I just remembered -- I copied and pasted a return into the terminal :) [13:28] I could have pastebinned without pastebinit :) [13:32] heh, dolphin crashes when I browse dropbox folders [13:43] Hi all. Is there a way to emulate a multitouch device by using multiple pointers via xi2? (e.g. by making use of two mice) [13:47] how can I reinstall the whole xorg stuff? I think I might be better off doing that [13:56] how do i update my vim to the latest (7.3)? [13:57] by compiling it for yourself and make an own package [14:00] anon33_: Debian seems to have 7.3.x packages in sid; you could grab there source package and rebuild it [14:03] hello [14:03] hi [14:04] i just upgraded my acer netbook to 10.10 but nothing is functioning, i have no menu, mouse or programs [14:04] what should i do? [14:05] Veliourass: What do you see on the screen? [14:05] nothing [14:05] what's the last thing you see before it goes blank? [14:05] the only thing i see is a cursor if i plug in a usb drive, otherwise nothing [14:06] Veliourass: Does ctrl-alt-f1 switch to a text console ? [14:06] ubuntu logo [14:06] penguin42 yes [14:06] Veliourass: OK, do you know which graphics card you have? [14:07] no [14:07] :) [14:07] Veliourass: OK, what does lspci | grep -i vga say ? [14:08] hold on [14:09] i can not log in! [14:09] i have a screen asking for username and password [14:10] and what happens if you use your normal username/password - or doesn't it let you type the username? [14:10] it does but it does not accept it [14:11] anyone know how to connect to the wireless network from the console? [14:11] ugh - how do i copy the same build arguments and environment variables that my current vim is set at? [14:11] * TheInfinity would recomment to reinstall lucid @ Veliourass - maverick is beta and its difficult to debug it. :) [14:11] robisinho: wpa_supplicant [14:12] anon33_: If you grab the debian package, the chance is that if you just rebuild the package it'll pick up the same settings (it's possible Ubuntu add some packages, I've not checked) [14:12] ok thanks [14:12] penguin42: i don't really know what you mean by grabbing the debian package - sorry [14:12] TheInfinity, wpa_supplicant with what options to load my standard configuration? [14:12] anon33_: OK, so you'll have to stick with the version of vim that's in maverick; or explore how packaging works [14:13] robisinho: man wpa_supplicant will help [14:13] robisinho: but - you cant use your network manager profile [14:14] TheInfinity, I see -- it doesnt actually connect wlan0, it acts as a raw snoop on a wireless network -- thanks but thats not what Im looking for [14:14] I need to actually connect [14:15] robisinho: you cant use your NetworkManager (GUI) settings at any command line wireless tools if you try this. you have to resetup :) [14:15] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiTroubleshooting -- it says here sudo ifup wlan0 should do it but .. I have a wireless network that doesnt broadcast so I think for that reason I cant just do a plain vanilla sudo ifup [14:16] TheInfinity: I'm not sure that's true, there is an nmcli that I found yesterday, I've not tried it but it looks promising [14:17] penguin42: ok, this would be quite new. and networkmanager stores keys in gnome keyring, i dont know how a cli version could access them ... [14:17] TheInfinity: Ah probably true if you have keys, although I guess it might be possible to unlock the keyring from a comman dline [14:18] TheInfinity, but I dont use wep [14:18] so all my config settings are in etc [14:19] like /etc/network/if-up.d/wpasupplicant [14:20] but wlan0 is already up [14:20] just not connected === iConfused is now known as iConfused|away [14:22] wpa_supplicant is used to connect to all wireless networks, encryption or not, but you need a wpa_supplicant.conf if you don't use NM [14:23] /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/examples/ shows a few examples and see the wpa_supplicant.conf manpage [14:23] yofel: bug 648120 [14:23] Launchpad bug 648120 in squid (Ubuntu) "Squid doesn't start at boot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/648120 [14:24] ah thx [14:25] yofel: What's kind of surreal is that a fix just went in for squid not starting immediately post-installation, but no one seems to have made sure at the time it survived a reboot [14:31] hello again [14:32] i ma trying to install 10.10 from a usb drive [14:33] sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "foo" && sudo dhclient wlan0 -- that's how [14:33] but iget a command like "no init found. try passing init=bootarg" [14:33] then what? [14:34] now i see something like (initramfs) [14:41] hi guys. font in menu entries is broken in helper application. any poniters? [14:41] * pointers [14:41] could anyone help me set up vim 7.3 with the same configuration environment on meerkat? [14:41] anon33_: hm? [14:42] simply copy the config file [14:42] knittl: where's that stored? [14:42] that depends. systemwide is /etc/vim/vimrc, userconfig is ~/.vimrc [14:43] knittl: oh, not those settings - the environment that vim is compiled with (do vim --version) [14:43] Huge version without GUI. [14:43] install the correct package? vim-full vim-tiny vim-runtime vim-extra vim-… [14:44] it's vim 7.2 here btw [14:44] anon33_: the configure options are in the debian/rules file in the source package [14:44] yofel: i'd like to copy the configuration options that are set for the 7.2 environment [14:45] and the ubuntu package has a few modifications from the debian package which makes merging them a bit time-consuming [14:45] anon33_: well, the ./configure ... line is in debian/rules, copy the right one from there [14:45] how can I reinstall the whole xorg subsystem? is there anything like sudo apt-get install --autoreinstall ? or something to reinstall all the dependant packages ? [14:46] robisinho: There are many packages and you could do a reinstall on every one, I still doubt it would solve your keyboard problem [14:47] looks like this: http://en.dogeno.us/2010/01/fix-garbage-menu-fonts-in-evince-karmicubuntu-9-10/ [14:48] http://en.dogeno.us/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/2010010602.png – my entries have numbers inside the squares [14:48] well, depends on the font, squares in general means missing charakters in the used font [14:49] penguin42, yeah .. especially since at least one package is writing changes somewhere that it doesnt track, or the uninstall would have fixed it.. but Ive got to try something [14:49] yofel: i tried changing fonts (dejavu, libertine, sans, times) [14:49] (Does yelp still give lots of squares for people - it has done for at least 6 months ?) [14:49] either that or it's trying to use characters that don't exist anywhere (which would be a bug) [14:50] it's only in help [14:52] find and find again + 3 entries in about are readable [14:53] is there a way to upgrade to 10.10 when in 10.4.1 lts? [14:53] update-manager -d [14:54] or wait 2 weeks [14:54] are you using 10.10? [14:54] yes [14:54] no isuues? [14:54] hey guys, trying to track down a bug in the beta. [14:54] yofel: do entries work in your help-application? [14:55] taomaster: right now no [14:55] I don't use gnome [14:55] but there will be [14:55] hm. anybody else? open help and see if menu looks ok. please :) [14:55] on it. [14:55] WOAH [14:55] uh no [14:55] its broke [14:56] ok, so it's really a bug and not me [14:56] well not completely broke but all the icons are screwy [14:56]