[01:46] <rlameiro> rsalveti: are you there?
[02:42] <persia> rlameiro, Just quiet on the weekends, mostly.  I don't believe there are too many hobbyists here yet.
[02:42] <rlameiro> :)
[02:42] <rlameiro> well, here I am
[02:42] <rlameiro> fiddling with it
[02:42] <persia> Yep :)
[02:43] <rlameiro> on top of that the video output is shifting completely the image on the tv to the left and overscaning
[02:43] <rlameiro> ...
[02:44] <rlameiro> there is something on the ubuntu kernel/uInitrd that bypass the uboot omafbdirectives
[02:44] <rlameiro> fbcvt
[13:35] <dcordes> hi
[13:35] <dcordes> ogra: Any smartbook news ?
[13:38] <ogra_cmpc> dcordes, http://tosh-ac100.wetpaint.com/thread/4253563/kernel+boot
[13:39] <dcordes> ogra_cmpc: good stuff
[13:51] <marvin24_> hi, we also have a channel (another one ;-) -> #ac100
[13:53] <ogra_cmpc> marvin24, awesome
[13:54]  * ogra_cmpc joins
[14:24] <ogra_cmpc> persia, ^^^^
[14:25] <dcordes> marvin24_: cool
[14:25] <persia> I'm excited, but don't have the attention for another channel just now.
[14:25] <ogra_cmpc> persia, i meant the url :)
[14:26] <persia> the URL looks very promising indeed.
[14:26] <ogra_cmpc> yes
[14:26] <ogra_cmpc> i can boot android from a local kernel
[14:26] <ogra_cmpc> using this reciepe
[14:26] <persia> Can you boot a useful operating system?
[14:27] <ogra_cmpc> probably ... the prob is that i cant get any visible console
[14:27] <dcordes> ah
[14:27] <dcordes> common androidism
[14:27] <persia> consoles are overrated :)
[14:28] <ogra_cmpc> trying the tegra kernel with omap4 rootfs doesnt get me anywhere either
[14:28]  * ogra_cmpc just tries with a panda SD here 
[14:30] <dcordes> ogra_cmpc: check if you have framebuffer console (fbcon) enabled in your kernel ( /proc/conf.gz )
[14:30] <ogra_cmpc> dcordes, its off
[14:30] <ogra_cmpc> thats the prob :)
[14:30] <dcordes> ogra_cmpc: ok. did you also request the sources ?
[14:31] <ogra_cmpc> no
[14:31] <ogra_cmpc> and i didnt checl the link from the EULA for two weeks either
[14:31] <ogra_cmpc> ac100 is a weekend project for me
[14:32] <ogra_cmpc> so i'm very slow on it
[14:32] <dcordes> to me all of this is a weekend project ;)
[17:27] <ogra_cmpc> persia, so i have a way to run a full ubuntu netboot session ... but no input devices work at all
[17:28] <ogra_cmpc> s/netboot/netbook
[17:51] <ajay> hi all , i have connected usb to serial adapter which is detected as /dev/ttyUSB0 and then i have connected to it a straight null modem cable which i have shorted at 2 and 3 pin number but  i am not able print anything in minicom or getting echo of it
[22:56] <persia> ogra, Nice progress.  My recommendation would be to start an image that allowed ssh so you can get in there, and then play with input-utils to see where things are wrong: sounds like issues with the HID drivers.
[23:01] <ogra_cmpc> persia, heh, that would require xinput to work at all
[23:02] <ogra_cmpc> the system is still chrooted
[23:02] <ogra_cmpc> no udev, no upstart
[23:03] <ogra_cmpc> the android system is the most minimal but its still a chrooted android
[23:03] <persia> Ah, without udev, I have little advice.  But working with ssh/input-utils shouldn't require xinput for a properly constructed image.
[23:04] <ogra_cmpc> well, the touchpad works with an xorg.conf
[23:04] <persia> And if input-utils can't deal with a device, the chances that xinput knows what to do are strikingly low (unless, for some reason, one is dealing with non-HID devices)
[23:04] <ogra_cmpc> the kbd is recognized in the logfile
[23:04] <ogra_cmpc> but doesnt hand anything through
[23:04] <ogra_cmpc> [ 11283.000] Generic KBD: dropping event due to full queue!
[23:05] <ogra_cmpc> thats what i see in the log
[23:05] <persia> Touchpad can be fixed with some udev properties then: that's trivial.  keyboard probably still requires fiddling with input-utils to make sure there is connectivity, symbol mapping, etc.
[23:05] <ogra_cmpc> i dont need to ssh ... androids adb shell is running
[23:07] <persia> If you don't need to ssh, install input-utils, and try to probe the keyboard.  I've locked up a couple systems doing that with exceedingly exotic input devices, (reboot was always clean), but usually they get enough low-level information that one can make the higher levels work.  Might need udev properties.  Might need remapping.  Might need explicit support in the HID driver, etc.
[23:09] <ogra_cmpc> well,, no udev properties possible without udev :)
[23:11] <persia> No, but it's possible to determine which properties are required :)
[23:11]  * persia really ought file some remapping for the Saitek Commander one of these days.
[23:11] <ogra_cmpc> /dev/input/event0
[23:11] <ogra_cmpc> protocol version mismatch (expected 65537, got 65536)
[23:12] <ogra_cmpc> thats what i get for :/# input-kbd /dev/input/event0
[23:14] <ogra_cmpc> same thing for input-evente
[23:14] <ogra_cmpc> *input-events
[23:14] <persia> Bother.  I thought I fixed that.
[23:15] <ogra_cmpc> well, given the million lines of " Generic KBD: dropping event due to full queue!" in the xorg log ...
[23:15] <ogra_cmpc> that might not actually be input-utils fault
[23:16] <ogra_cmpc> i wish we still would build the old kbd driver for x
[23:16] <ogra_cmpc> so i had actually some alternative to try
[23:16] <ogra_cmpc> but there is only evdev nowadays
[23:17] <persia> input-utils queries the kernel directly.  Nothing to do with X.  It makes debugging the new X input scheme *much* easier.  This is all good: don't be nostalgic: it used to take forever for those of us who cared to painstakingly map things in the kernel and then *do it all over again* in an X driver.
[23:18] <persia> Try `input-kbd 0` rather than /dev/input/event0
[23:18] <persia> Also, try lsinput to make sure 0 is your keyboard :)
[23:21] <ogra_cmpc> :/# lsinput
[23:21] <ogra_cmpc> /dev/input/event0
[23:21] <ogra_cmpc> protocol version mismatch (expected 65537, got 65536)
[23:21] <persia> Right.  Kernel bug :)
[23:21] <ogra_cmpc> well
[23:22] <ogra_cmpc> [12262.640000] init: untracked pid 20189 exited
[23:22] <ogra_cmpc> android *is* a kernel bug
[23:22] <persia> Yep.
[23:22]  * persia decides to sort out why the W axis isn't working on this mouse another day, and goes in search of food.
[23:23] <ogra_cmpc> yeah, i'll better finish the day :)