[00:01] <Pecores_Connass> hi
[00:01] <Pecores_Connass> i cant open nx connexion after update ubuntu
[00:01] <Pecores_Connass> Warning: Unrecognized session type 'unix-gnome'. Assuming agent session.
[00:01] <Pecores_Connass> Error: Call to bind failed for font TCP port 11000. Error is 1 'Operation not permitted'.
[00:50] <Ad0> Pecores_Connass: pretty bad error
[00:51] <Ad0> sounds like access rite problems
[00:54] <Ad0> Pecores_Connass: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/FreeNX#head-da1c62bfe81bf13866060aca4cd1565a4de6bb25
[00:54] <Ad0> check the  sshd part
[00:57] <Ad0> nite
[01:07] <MTecknology> This is awesome... http://lease-color-copiers.com/Why_is_Microsoft_Word_So_Expensive.html
[02:43] <sport_> I just installed Ubuntu Server as a VM, but the font is too large.  How can I adjust screen resolution
[03:30] <jtraylor> looks like everyone is still quietly buzzing away with work after the past 4 years.
[03:48]  * Callum__ explodes
[03:49]  * MalkavianManiac stands there with a shocked look upon his face... then starts to wonder if superglue will be enough to put Callum__ back together
[03:49] <Callum__> Dovecot won't create the bloody /var/spool/postfix/private/auth socket file so everything can work, I'm 99.9% sure everything is configured properly but Dovecot is just being an asshole
[03:49] <MalkavianManiac> Callum__, i got dovecot working on my server ages ago, but then i broke it and havent bothered to fix it since... so im not much help
[03:50] <MalkavianManiac> i just switched to google apps
[03:51] <Callum__> ugh I need this to work
[03:52] <G> Callum__: you set the option correctly in dovecot.conf?
[03:52] <Callum__> yeah
[03:53] <Callum__> it just won't work
[03:54] <Callum__> G: http://pastebin.com/UZa0hiWv
[03:57] <G> try 0600
[03:58] <Callum__> still not there...
[03:59] <Callum__> still doesn't work
[03:59] <G> errr 0660
[03:59] <Callum__> 0660 was in there, it just says 432 on "dovecot -n"
[04:00] <G> in fact mine does too
[04:00] <G> but it works correct
[04:00] <Callum__> mine doesn't >_>
[04:01] <G> does the directory exist?
[04:01] <Callum__> /var/spool/postfix/private? yeah, and its got a while other load of socket files in there
[04:39] <G> Callum__: btw, are you running AppArmor, just occured to be that it could be denying it
[04:39] <G> Callum__: check /var/log/syslog
[05:27] <Callum__> G: well, apparmor is installed, but there is no apparmor related errors in /var/log/syslog
[05:31] <G> Callum__: hmmm okay, it was just a sudden thought, I can't think of anything else, unless there is something in the mail.log
[05:33] <Callum__> http://pastebin.com/x06XfjkU - a portion of mail.log when I try to send an e-mail
[05:36] <G> anything from dovecot?
[05:40] <G> (maybe from dovecot startup)
[06:24] <Callum__> G: nothing unusual
[06:24] <Callum__> Sep 26 16:00:38 webserver dovecot: dovecot v1.1.11 starting up (core dumps disabled)
[06:41] <MTeck> if I just toasted a config file... how can I get that back short of purge and reinstall?
[06:54] <pfifo> im having some trouble getting postfix todo what i want. I have successfully sent mail to root@pfifo.net from my gmail, but if i send it to test@pfifo.net it get sent back saying its undeliverable. I understand that is because there is no user named test on my system. What I would like it todo is instead of sending mail for test@pfifo.net back to gmail, have it dump this mail into root@pfifo.net mailbox
[06:54] <pfifo> actually, i would prefer that every email that comes in on port 25 goes to root@pfifo.net
[06:56] <pfifo> and also to be complete, i ran sudo postmap /etc/postfix/aliases, and got a file not found error which is where I am now
[08:18] <RudyValencia> If I'm gonna be pushing Ubuntu installs out over PXE, how much of the repositories should I mirror locally?
[08:18] <RudyValencia> Is just main enough?
[08:23] <joschi> RudyValencia: it depends on what packages you're going to install
[08:23] <RudyValencia> Well, I don't want future installations from PXE to take hours
[08:23] <joschi> RudyValencia: although I personally wouldn't mirror the whole repositories but use a package cacher like apt-cacher, apt-proxy or approx instead
[08:24] <RudyValencia> apt-cacher-ng was recommended
[08:24] <joschi> RudyValencia: I like approx. small, simple, reliable.
[08:25] <RudyValencia> I'll install approx then
[08:26] <RudyValencia> OK, so it's installed; what do I do from here?
[08:37] <joschi> RudyValencia: configure your approx.conf (e. g. add the upstream mirrors) and add the URL of your approx cache to the sources.list
[08:37] <RudyValencia> so like, "main http://ubuntu.mirror.here/ubuntu" ?
[08:39] <RudyValencia> er, wait, should be "lucid"
[08:39] <RudyValencia> and lucid-security from security.ubuntu.com and etc.
[08:40] <RudyValencia> right?
[08:57] <joschi> RudyValencia: take a look at your current sources.list and use these URLs
[08:57] <joschi> RudyValencia: using a mirror nearby will give you bonus points ;)
[08:58] <RudyValencia> I do have those URLs.
[08:58] <RudyValencia> But is it "lucid"/"lucid-security"/"lucid-updates" that I put in the list or "main"/"restricted"/"universe"/"multiverse" that I put on lines in the approx.conf file?
[09:09] <RudyValencia> joschi: Never mind I figured it out
[09:09] <RudyValencia> but I can't seem to get my laptop to use the approx cache
[09:21] <joschi> RudyValencia: that's a nice and detailed error description...
[09:21] <RudyValencia> When I enter the information into the ubuntu-installer, it says:
[09:21] <RudyValencia> Bad archive mirror
[09:22] <RudyValencia> The specified Ubuntu archive mirror is either not available, or does not have a valid Release file on it. Please try a different mirror.
[09:23] <joschi> RudyValencia: either the URLs in your sources.list or the ones configured in approx.conf are wrong
[09:23] <RudyValencia> It works on the server side
[09:25] <RudyValencia> I set up two mappings - ubuntu http://ubuntu.osuosl.org/ubuntu
[09:25] <RudyValencia> and security http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[09:25] <RudyValencia> Or do I need something like lucid, lucid-updates, and lucid-security ?
[09:27] <joschi> you'll need to use these in your sources.list
[09:27] <joschi> e. g. deb http://your-approx-host/ubuntu/ lucid main restricted
[09:28] <RudyValencia> I figured out how to set up the sources.list
[09:28] <RudyValencia> it's the /etc/approx/approx.conf I'm trying to get working
[09:29] <joschi> ubuntu          http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[09:30] <joschi> that's the only line in my approx.conf (except for third party repositories which don't matter to you)
[09:31] <RudyValencia> So I only need one and can just set lucid, lucid-updates, and lucid-scurity to use approx in my /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[09:31] <RudyValencia> *lucid-security
[09:31] <joschi> yes
[09:31] <joschi> you actually have to. see `man 5 sources.list`
[09:32] <RudyValencia> I set each of those to use approx instead.
[09:33] <RudyValencia> I can't seem to get my laptop (PXE-booted currently) to work with the server
[09:34] <RudyValencia> Ah, I have to configure it as if it were a proxy
[09:34] <joschi> no, you actually use it as source URL, not as proxy
[09:35] <joschi> RudyValencia: but there are other solutions that work like that if you prefer it
[09:35] <RudyValencia> I tried that and got the "Bad archive mirror" error
[09:35] <joschi> probably because your URLs were wrong...
[09:36] <RudyValencia> I'll try it again
[09:39] <RudyValencia> It still isn't letting me do it, same error
[09:40] <RudyValencia> I'm putting the hostname in as (not literally): http://[server IP]:9999
[09:40] <RudyValencia> and the directory of the archive as /ubuntu/
[09:40] <RudyValencia> and no proxy
[09:43] <RudyValencia> I don't even know how to check the port from the notebook itself other than maybe trying to send an HTTP header through nc
[09:43] <RudyValencia> (the PXE boot image is very limited in what it has on it
[09:50] <joschi> RudyValencia: paste your approx.conf and your sources.list and don't anonymize anything in it...
[09:50] <RudyValencia> ok
[09:50] <RudyValencia> but the server doesn't have a GUI
[09:51] <RudyValencia> how do I get it over to a pastebin?
[09:51] <joschi> RudyValencia: either use copy&paste from your shell or use something like http://sprunge.us/
[09:54] <RudyValencia> approx.conf: http://pastebin.com/4PVejEWP
[09:54] <RudyValencia> sources.list: http://pastebin.com/5fNnnYdR
[09:56] <joschi> RudyValencia: both files look correct to me
[09:57] <RudyValencia> And I'm typing in http://192.168.37.253:9999
[09:57] <RudyValencia> (as the host)
[09:57] <RudyValencia> Maybe I should try mirroring main locally
[09:58] <joschi> if 192.168.37.253 is the host running approx that should be fine
[09:58] <RudyValencia> it is
[09:58] <joschi> does approx listen to that interface?
[09:58] <RudyValencia> I see it in netstat as:
[09:58] <RudyValencia>  tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:9999            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
[09:59] <RudyValencia> It apparently starts from inetd
[09:59] <joschi> RudyValencia: ok, but is there maybe a packet filter which denys access to that port to other machines?
[09:59] <joschi> RudyValencia: does `aptitude update` work on the host with the sources.list you've just posted?
[09:59] <RudyValencia> Yes
[10:00] <RudyValencia> It goes through the list several times, sometimes Hit and sometimes Ign
[10:00] <joschi> that's ok and it means that approx is working correctly and actually serves the correct files
[10:01] <RudyValencia> Just not sure why the PXE boot environment doesn't like it
[11:01] <RudyValencia> joschi: I figured out the problem
[11:01] <RudyValencia> OSUOSL's mirror confuses the installer
[11:02] <RudyValencia> Because I was using it as an approx source, all approx did was forward their mirror's page on and it confused the poor lappy
[11:02] <RudyValencia> I'm going to reinstall it and just use Ubuntu's default servers.
[11:16] <RudyValencia> er, no
[11:16] <RudyValencia> it was my fault
[11:16] <RudyValencia> I was entering http:// before the server name and that's what was wrong :o
[11:16] <RudyValencia> it works fine!
[11:17] <RudyValencia> PEBCAK.
[13:36] <flecharota> help
[13:37] <flecharota> i m lost..for modify server..
[13:37] <flecharota> hello
[13:38] <RudyValencia> May I help you?
[13:40] <flecharota> RudyValencia, dime xfa
[13:40] <flecharota> donde metes una url?
[13:40] <flecharota> x q la guarde..en servidor a conectar
[13:41] <flecharota> uso xchat y ubuntu
[13:41] <RudyValencia> Sorry, I don't speak spanish
[13:41] <RudyValencia> You might try #ubuntu-es
[13:43] <flecharota> RudyValencia, ok thanks
[13:43] <flecharota> i am here
[13:43] <flecharota> the channel spanish no reponse
[13:44] <flecharota>  i am desesperate..
[13:44] <flecharota> my url is diferent..or bad
[13:44] <flecharota> where modified this url on xchat?
[13:45] <flecharota> please
[13:46] <flecharota> !serverlist
[13:47] <flecharota> RudyValencia, your nickname is spanish!!!
[13:47] <flecharota> you don t speak spanish..?
[13:48] <flecharota> or you not say
[13:48] <flecharota> resolve my problem..
[13:49] <flecharota> hi
[13:49] <RudyValencia> I just don't speak spanish
[13:50] <RudyValencia> do you need to change what server you connect to in xchat?
[13:50] <RudyValencia> go to XChat > Network List... in the menus
[13:51] <RudyValencia> then click on the IRC network you want to edit and press "Edit..."
[13:51] <RudyValencia> click on the server listing you want to edit and it'll turn into a test entry
[13:51] <RudyValencia> er, text enry
[13:52] <RudyValencia> sorry, been up all night
[13:52] <RudyValencia> enter the correct info in it, then click OK and next time it should work right
[13:53] <flecharota> ok thans..ufff complicated for me
[13:53] <flecharota> thanks  i am lost sorry
[13:54] <flecharota> my english is not good
[13:55] <RudyValencia> no problem
[13:55] <flecharota> test entry?
[13:55] <flecharota> where is it¿
[13:56] <RudyValencia> I meant 'text' entry
[13:56] <RudyValencia> you click on the server listing you want to edit and it should let you edit it
[13:56] <flecharota> o ok
[13:56] <flecharota> maybe its not modified
[13:56] <flecharota> no save,,
[13:56] <flecharota> the correct server is modified
[13:57] <flecharota> ok
[13:57] <flecharota> mindforg is on 6667
[13:57] <flecharota> ok
[13:57] <flecharota> but the real direction
[13:57] <flecharota> is modified
[13:57] <flecharota> is bad ok
[13:57] <flecharota> the server have out
[13:58] <flecharota> 3 days
[13:58] <flecharota> ok
[13:58] <flecharota> RudyValencia,  ok?
[13:58] <flecharota> this url..is not exactly
[13:58] <RudyValencia> lemme see what i can find out about that network
[13:58] <flecharota> and the program says
[13:59] <flecharota> sorry read me
[13:59] <flecharota> expired conect...
[13:59] <flecharota> its not one server
[13:59] <flecharota> the url ,,,,
[14:00] <flecharota> is not write ok
[14:00] <flecharota> my qustion is
[14:00] <RudyValencia> does it still say 'newserver/6667' or something
[14:00] <flecharota> uf
[14:00] <flecharota> still?
[14:00] <flecharota> im spanish men...
[14:01] <RudyValencia> all I can think of is talk to #ubuntu-es, sorry
[14:01] <flecharota> help me sorry..
[14:01] <flecharota> ubuntu-es not reponses
[14:02] <RudyValencia> I'm not sure i understand what you mean
[14:07] <flecharota> ok..my url is not write ..ok
[14:07] <flecharota> the port yes,,but the url noooo
[14:08] <FusionX> *right
[14:22] <FusionX> what is ur problem flecharota?
[14:32] <flecharota> wher modified,,xchat/
[14:32] <flecharota> server
[14:32] <flecharota> my direction url is not write ok
[14:32] <flecharota> i am modified
[14:33] <flecharota> after ataks for server irc funkyHat
[14:33] <flecharota> FusionX, sorry tellme
[14:33] <progre55> hi guys. Is it okay to do-release-upgrade a server over ssh? from karmic to lucid
[14:34] <flecharota> FusionX, tell me please..im desesperate ..this is message of error
[14:34] <flecharota> conect expired FusionX ?
[14:35] <flecharota> i want introduce 56.67.456....etc where introduce the correct url please?
[14:35] <flecharota> i say the direction ....lost
[14:35] <flecharota> and expired
[14:36] <flecharota> logical..is bad
[14:36] <flecharota> modified ..where FusionX ????
[14:36] <flecharota> where please..
[14:36] <flecharota> and memorize this new server ...
[14:37] <flecharota> very dificult for me..i m spanish sorry..y understand litle words
[14:38] <flecharota> technical problem for me..not connect!
[14:38] <flecharota> no
[14:39] <flecharota> the irc ....
[14:55] <FusionX> errr....i cant understand anything flecharota sorry can't help.
[14:56] <flecharota> ok
[14:56] <flecharota> FusionX, not problem..im continue in other chanel spanish thanks
[15:03] <progre55> anyone? Is it okay to do-release-upgrade an ubuntu server over ssh? from karmic to lucid
[15:12] <iceflatline> progre55: I recently upgraded 8.10 to 10.10 over ssh. The upgrade broke several packages but ssh was fine.
[15:28] <hggdh> progre55: it is not a good idea, things may go wrong, you lose your SSH session and... there is nothing there to SSH back in
[15:32] <progre55> hggdh: but what if I dont have physical access to the server at the moment? Is it worth a risk? )
[15:39] <hggdh> progre55: the upgrade process will start a second SSH server on a different port. If you lose the session, and your firewall rules allow, you can SSH into this second instance
[15:40] <hggdh> but if your firewall rules block the access, you *will* have to get physical access
[15:45] <aetaric> as a rule, i always removed the execute perms from iptables or csf/lfd and killed the process when i updated remote servers.
[15:45] <aetaric> better safe then sorry
[15:57] <progre55> hggdh, aetaric: thanks guys, appreciate
[15:57] <progre55> apparently my firewall blockes that port..
[15:59] <aetaric> progre55: well, to be safe and prevent you from breaking packages... run the program in screen... that way when you get console access, you can just reattach with screen -x
[15:59] <aetaric> at least it is a decent failsafe
[16:00] <aetaric> just run screen sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:00] <progre55> aetaric: thanks, I'll do that
[16:01] <progre55> is it safe even if I dont have the alternate port open?
[16:02] <aetaric> it will keep the update runnning... and visable via any connection you can make...
[16:02] <aetaric> if it is a VPS, i'm sure you can get console access
[16:03] <progre55> the only connection I have to the server right now is ssh on port 22
[16:04] <aetaric> fun... anyone know if you can force the backup ssh port to 22?
[16:06] <progre55> oh wait, actually I can get access on the internal IP from another server in the same LAN
[16:06] <progre55> damn, I'm too tired =)
[16:07] <aetaric> progre55: oh, well, there you go..
[16:07] <progre55> aetaric: thanks =)
[16:07] <aetaric> progre55: np, hope that update goes well
[16:08] <progre55> =) thanks
[16:08] <progre55> oh and btw, how do you enable the "tab" thing when you type a part of a command and tab finds it for you?
[16:09] <progre55> dont even know how to properly explain it ))
[16:14] <mgolisch> it should be enabled by default
[16:16] <progre55> mgolisch: but what if it's not? how do you enable it?
[16:16] <vbabiy> Hey should ubuntu 9.10 have start-stop-daemon installed?
[16:18] <mgolisch> progre55: did you do anything funny? it realy should work out of the box
[16:19] <mgolisch> the default dumb completion should complete executable names in $PATH+filenames+directories
[16:19] <mgolisch> progre55: so you say the tab key does nothing for you?
[16:20] <progre55> mgolisch: I havent set the server up myself.. I just got it
[16:20] <progre55> well anyways, let me try to release-upgrade, maybe it will work then )
[16:21] <progre55> oh and another issue.. how do you forward all the calls to a virtual host in mysite.com (say, developer.mysite.com) to a localhost port 8080?
[16:21] <progre55> is it the apache mod_proxy using ProxyPass?
[16:22] <mgolisch> yeah
[16:22] <progre55> thanks
[16:29] <progre55> hmm.. I'm having this problem while release-upgrading http://pastie.org/1182588 can anyone please have a look and tell me what's wrong?
[16:30] <progre55> it seems that I dont have the PATH var
[16:31] <progre55> but echo $PATH shows this: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin
[16:32] <mgolisch> its probably something wrong with your /etc/environment
[16:33] <mgolisch> no idea if thats why it fails to upgrade that package though
[16:38] <mgolisch> so id start by fixing the /etc/environment file, if it still fails to install the package afterwards look at the failing postinstall script
[16:38] <progre55> yeah, I fixed it.. someone had messed up /etc/environment
[16:39] <progre55> adding JAVA_HOME there, and then trying to append it to the PATH, but instead, overrighting PATH )
[18:14] <harrisonk> what is a good irc server program?
[18:24] <mgolisch> what for?
[18:30] <arrrghhh> so i'm looking at upgrading my processor in my server, and i figured i should also go 64-bit when i do this.  i'd like to make sure i can reinstate everything, what's the best way to do that?
[19:03] <harrisonk> arrrghhh are you still there?
[19:04] <arrrghhh> yes
[19:05] <harrisonk> what services do you run on your server?
[19:05] <harrisonk> are they Artdetecture dependant?
[19:06] <RoyK> arrrghhh: first, if you think you need a new server, setup sysstat or similar software to check where the bottleneck is
[19:07] <arrrghhh> huh?  bottleneck?
[19:07] <arrrghhh> i just want to upgrade the processor
[19:07] <arrrghhh> dual-core low cache to a quad-core higher cache proc
[19:07] <arrrghhh> harrisonk, i'm not sure.  the one that worries me the most is webkeypass
[19:08] <arrrghhh> that was the biggest PITA to get installed/working correctly on startup.
[19:08] <arrrghhh> er
[19:08] <arrrghhh> webkeepass i guess is the name sorry.
[19:08] <harrisonk> ether way I have never heard of that program
[19:09] <arrrghhh> based on keepass
[19:09] <arrrghhh> but a web interface
[19:09] <arrrghhh> basically
[19:09] <arrrghhh> it's dependent on java
[19:10] <harrisonk> arrrghhh what Royk means is: Why do you want to upgrade the processer, is it because the systems slow or something? maybe you need more RAM for example.
[19:10] <arrrghhh> oh i see
[19:10]  * RoyK pats harrisonk 
[19:11] <arrrghhh> no i know the processor is the bottleneck
[19:11] <arrrghhh> the only problem i have is transcoding media on the fly
[19:11] <harrisonk> very well what is the processer now?
[19:11] <RoyK> arrrghhh: what is the sar output over time?
[19:11] <arrrghhh> and i can watch htop peg the cores
[19:11] <RoyK> ah
[19:11] <RoyK> ok
[19:11] <arrrghhh> intel e2180
[19:11] <arrrghhh> dual core 1mb cache 2.0ghz
[19:11] <RoyK> arrrghhh: most transcoders don't support parallel transcoding, though
[19:12] <arrrghhh> and i want to go to the q9500.  quad core 6mb 2.8ghz
[19:12] <RoyK> ffmpeg supports it with h.264, but that's the only one I know
[19:12] <arrrghhh> really?  hrm.
[19:12] <arrrghhh> i use ps3mediaserver
[19:12] <arrrghhh> i think it uses mplayer or vlc to transcode
[19:12] <RoyK> probably single-threaded
[19:12] <RoyK> most are
[19:13] <arrrghhh> i think you can choose to set it to be mutli-threaded as i recall
[19:13] <arrrghhh> either way the dev said that if you want to transcode 1080p on the fly you'll need a quad-core minimum.
[19:13] <RoyK> I used to work with Måns Rullgård, who wrote the multithreaded h.264 transcoder bits
[19:13] <arrrghhh> the rig can transcode 720p on the fly
[19:13] <arrrghhh> but 1080p it fails
[19:13] <arrrghhh> i have a gigabit network
[19:13] <arrrghhh> and i don't think RAM is the issue
[19:13] <RoyK> while transcoding, run top and press 1
[19:13] <RoyK> it'll show cpu usage per core
[19:14] <RoyK> I would guess only one core is in use
[19:14] <arrrghhh> i think htop splits out the cores by default
[19:14] <RoyK> Måns' stuff went into libavcodec iirc, so it may be used from there
[19:14] <arrrghhh> and i basically see one core peg, then the other core.  it doesn't peg both at the same time.
[19:15] <arrrghhh> so does that mean it's only using one core?
[19:15] <harrisonk> I would think so.
[19:15] <harrisonk> just switching betwean them
[19:15] <arrrghhh> how else can i tell?
[19:15] <harrisonk> that I don't know.
[19:16] <harrisonk> Royk?
[19:16] <arrrghhh> i'm just going off of what the dev of the project states.
[19:16] <RoyK> arrrghhh: the hard thing about transcoding media in parallel is that you need to take the time from an I frame and through the B or P frames and run that in a separate thread
[19:16] <RoyK> harrisonk: ?
[19:16] <harrisonk> I was asking you for another command to check core activity
[19:16] <arrrghhh> look, i'm pretty sure i want to upgrade my processor.  that's not a big deal, i've already determined that's what i'd like to do
[19:17] <RoyK> harrisonk: sar -P ALL is good
[19:17] <harrisonk> okay
[19:17] <RoyK> harrisonk: just setup sysstat to run regularly
[19:17] <RoyK> apt-get install sysstat
[19:17] <RoyK> and then enable it in /etc/default/sysstat, then start it
[19:18] <harrisonk> arrrghhh do you have the codename of your current processer?
[19:18] <RoyK> for some stoooopid reason, debuntu leaves it disabled unless you specifically enable it
[19:18] <arrrghhh> lol ok
[19:18] <arrrghhh> harrisonk, not sure.  e2180 wasn't enough?
[19:19] <arrrghhh> RoyK, so what do i do after i enable it...?
[19:19] <RoyK> just run sar
[19:19] <arrrghhh> says that i should make sure data collecting is enabled
[19:19] <arrrghhh> which i just enabled it
[19:19] <arrrghhh> do i have to wait some time?
[19:19] <RoyK> http://pastebin.com/cmkibRid
[19:19] <RoyK> arrrghhh: /etc/init.d/sysstat start
[19:19] <harrisonk> I walk up to random person and say e2180 I would get a look of 'what?' I could always look it up though.
[19:20] <arrrghhh> RoyK, ah ok
[19:20] <arrrghhh> harrisonk, lol sorry
[19:20] <arrrghhh> i don't know 1 sec
[19:21] <harrisonk> I found it
[19:21] <RoyK> http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=31733
[19:21] <harrisonk> and what is the number of the new proc?
[19:21] <arrrghhh> yea i'm looking at that intel page
[19:21] <arrrghhh> i don't see any common name tho
[19:21] <arrrghhh> q9500
[19:22] <harrisonk> I wikied it it is a Conroe or allendale processer
[19:22] <arrrghhh> so that's more accurate of a description?  lol
[19:22] <RoyK> arrrghhh: can you start a transcode and see if it really uses more than one core?
[19:23] <arrrghhh> i did the sar -P ALL and it doesn't really have much output
[19:23] <arrrghhh> sure
[19:23] <RoyK> use top
[19:23] <RoyK> or htop if you like
[19:24] <arrrghhh> htop is easier to read for me
[19:24] <arrrghhh> pretty colors haha
[19:24] <harrisonk> Royk what does transcoding do?
[19:24] <RoyK> harrisonk: decoding and encoding a media stream
[19:24] <arrrghhh> harrisonk, converts one type of media format to another
[19:24] <harrisonk> okay
[19:24] <harrisonk> like MP3 to OGG?
[19:24] <RoyK> yes
[19:24] <arrrghhh> so for example my PS3 doesn't play MKV (matroksa video)
[19:24] <RoyK> that's transcoding
[19:24] <arrrghhh> indeedy
[19:25] <arrrghhh> but i'm doing it for video :D
[19:25] <arrrghhh> 720p works great
[19:25] <arrrghhh> but 1080p and it gets choppy
[19:25] <harrisonk> can you use 720P?
[19:25] <mgolisch> if its just about the container you dont need to reencode the video/audio
[19:25] <mgolisch> just swap the container
[19:25] <RoyK> arrrghhh: I used to work for this company doing VoD and we did some research on transcoding
[19:25] <mgolisch> mkvextract and then use mp4box to pack it into a mp4 container
[19:26] <mgolisch> or whatever your ps3 supports
[19:26] <mgolisch> thats what i used to do for my xbox360
[19:26] <arrrghhh> mgolisch, yes but not all files are just a simple container switch
[19:27] <arrrghhh> like sometimes the PS3 doesn't feel like playing older forms of DIVX
[19:27] <mgolisch> oh yeah i just us a computer currently
[19:27] <mgolisch> less hazzle
[19:27] <arrrghhh> there's so many different forms of DIVX, it plays xvid but not some old format, can't remember the name.  there's some other crap too.
[19:27] <mgolisch> mplayer just eats everything i feed it
[19:27] <arrrghhh> yea, i used a computer but then i had issues with surround sound.
[19:28] <RoyK> arrrghhh: so what does htop say?
[19:28] <arrrghhh> i'm watching it now
[19:28] <arrrghhh> it seems to be more than handling this movie wth
[19:29] <arrrghhh> cores are running at like 10%
[19:29] <arrrghhh> 2% right now
[19:29] <RoyK> sar -P ALL 1 100
[19:29] <arrrghhh> huh
[19:29] <arrrghhh> ok
[19:29] <RoyK> sar -P ALL 1
[19:29] <arrrghhh> what am i looking for
[19:29] <RoyK> that'll sample cpu usage once per second
[19:30] <arrrghhh> yes
[19:30] <arrrghhh> idle is all in the 90's
[19:30] <arrrghhh> jeebus
[19:30] <arrrghhh> i don't get it
[19:30] <arrrghhh> let me try a different file
[19:30] <arrrghhh> that says it was 1080p tho crazy
[19:30] <RoyK> what does iowait say?
[19:30] <arrrghhh> 0's
[19:30] <arrrghhh> well
[19:31] <arrrghhh> 1.98
[19:31] <arrrghhh> 1.0
[19:31] <arrrghhh> mostly 0's
[19:31] <RoyK> low
[19:31] <arrrghhh> had one that was 5.71
[19:31] <arrrghhh> then 0's
[19:31] <arrrghhh> ah
[19:31] <arrrghhh> this one is pegging the proc more
[19:31] <RoyK> well, start a transcode and let it run for some time
[19:31] <arrrghhh> it's not choppy on the tv tho
[19:31] <arrrghhh> blargh
[19:31] <arrrghhh> crap only fails when my gf is around.  wtf.
[19:32] <RoyK> female vira, perhaps
[19:32] <arrrghhh> i swear we tried watching this exact movie and it was so choppy it was unbearable.
[19:32] <arrrghhh> lol
[19:32] <arrrghhh> seriously
[19:33] <arrrghhh> yea one core will be 96% while the other one is 17 or 20
[19:33] <arrrghhh> and it seems to alternate
[19:33] <arrrghhh> one core will peg, one core will be using very little.
[19:33] <arrrghhh> sometimes i'll see when both are at 60%
[19:33] <arrrghhh> ah ha
[19:33] <arrrghhh> this one is choppy
[19:33] <RoyK> doesn't sound multithreaded to me
[19:33] <arrrghhh> three mencoder processes are running
[19:34] <RoyK> pastebin ps fax
[19:35] <arrrghhh> http://pastebin.com/YG65uXdX
[19:35] <arrrghhh> what's weird is
[19:35] <arrrghhh> mencoder looks like it's running a bunch of stuff that's unrelated
[19:35] <arrrghhh> wth
[19:36] <RoyK> erm - you have lots of mencoder processes there
[19:36] <arrrghhh> lol
[19:36] <arrrghhh> i stopped playback
[19:36] <arrrghhh> and those processes are still in there
[19:36] <RoyK> killall -9 mencoder
[19:36] <arrrghhh> huh
[19:37] <arrrghhh> tsMuxer seems to be doing the same
[19:37]  * RoyK thinks there should be an alias for killall -9 like 'slaughter'
[19:37] <arrrghhh> i'm sure you could make one haha
[19:37] <arrrghhh> hrm
[19:37] <arrrghhh> it seems perhaps ps3mediaserver doesn't clean up after itself so well
[19:38] <arrrghhh> those were all movies/shows that the ps3 said it couldn't play
[19:38] <RoyK> well, try starting a new transcode and monitor the cpu usage
[19:38] <arrrghhh> k
[19:39] <arrrghhh> so now 2 mencoders
[19:39] <arrrghhh> running on the same file
[19:39] <arrrghhh> perhaps that's how it's multithreaded lol
[19:39] <RoyK> and what does sar say?
[19:39] <arrrghhh> one core will peg
[19:39] <arrrghhh> and the other will be lame
[19:40] <arrrghhh> like 96% on core 0 and 19% on core 1
[19:40] <RoyK> to/from what are you transcoding?
[19:40] <arrrghhh> well it's mkv currently
[19:41] <RoyK> mkv?
[19:41] <arrrghhh> h264 video
[19:41] <arrrghhh> i think the audio is dts
[19:41] <arrrghhh> 1 sec lemme open it with vlc
[19:41] <arrrghhh> yea it's mkv
[19:41] <arrrghhh> and i think any of the transcoding stuff just dumps it to an m2ts
[19:41] <arrrghhh> mpg2
[19:41] <arrrghhh> somethin like that
[19:42] <arrrghhh> yea the video is mp4 h264
[19:42] <arrrghhh> audio is dts
[19:43] <RoyK> the two processes are probably transcoding a stream each, then, video and audio
[19:44] <arrrghhh> ah
[19:44] <arrrghhh> that would make sense
[19:44] <RoyK> with ffmpeg you can transcode in parallel, but then, you won't get a nice gui for it
[19:44] <arrrghhh> then remuxing to vlc
[19:44]  * soren doesn't see how any of this is relevant for ubuntu-server.
[19:45]  * RoyK agrees
[19:45] <RoyK> arrrghhh: try #ffmpeg
[19:45] <arrrghhh> dude, you took the conversation on this freakin trip
[19:45] <RoyK> soren: it all started out with arrrghhh wanting to get a new CPU for his box, so it's legitit somehow
[19:45] <arrrghhh> i just started asking how to backup my server so i could upgrade the proc and go to 64-bit
[19:46] <RoyK> hehe
[19:46] <arrrghhh> thank you lol
[19:46] <RoyK> my pleasure :)
[19:47] <arrrghhh> so what would be the best way to ensure my new 64-bit server has all the necessary data from my 32-bit server...?  i want to make sure to backup anything i can data wise, obviously programs have to be reinstalled.
[19:48] <RoyK> arrrghhh: the data will be consistent
[19:49] <arrrghhh> well all the configuration crap i have in here
[19:49] <arrrghhh> startup scripts
[19:49] <RoyK> arrrghhh: even moving from big endian to little endian ensures constant data - 32/64bit is not an issue
[19:49] <RoyK> just move the scripts
[19:49] <arrrghhh> hrm we may not be talking about the same thing
[21:21] <osmosis> any gotchas for setting up a win2003 virtual guest on ubuntu server? I tried, but it ran unusably slow. Retrying again now.
[21:22] <MalkavianManiac> osmosis, does your CPU support virtualization?
[21:23] <mgolisch> also what virtualisation software do you use?
[21:23] <osmosis> MalkavianManiac, yes. i have a bunch of ubuntu virt servers running using HVM already. Just trying to get a virtual win2003 instance to work correctly.
[21:27] <mgolisch> you using kvm or what?
[21:28] <MalkavianManiac> mgolisch, HVM
[21:29] <mgolisch> whats that supposed to mean?
[21:29] <MalkavianManiac> just ignore me
[22:07] <osmosis> anyone know what exactly virt-install's  --os-variant  option does?
[22:16] <andreserl> osmosis, man virt-install
[22:17] <andreserl> it will tell you there
[22:29] <osmosis> andreserl, says  "Further optimize the guest configuration for a specific operating system"  , not very specific. If I do an install manually, i want to know what difference it would make. I can tell what the 'optimizations' are.
[22:29] <osmosis> cant
[22:33] <andreserl> osmosis, well I guess that's internals of each OS, such as some might not use ext4 by default as others and things like that (that's a guess) Probably in upstreams website is better explained
[22:34] <osmosis> andreserl, unfortunately not much docs there either. thx though.
[22:34] <osmosis> for ubuntu kvm, should I be running a win2k3 guests as  arch='x86_64'  or  arch='i686'  ?
[22:34] <andreserl> osmosis, i686 afaik
[22:37] <mgolisch> probably depends on what you tell it to do
[22:37] <mgolisch> theres 64bit versions of 2k3 server too
[23:24] <koltroll> Good evening people.
[23:25] <koltroll> I've been setting up a lamp-server, and it's been going quite well actually. The only problem I'm having is with postfix. Some mail gets to me, some ends up in junk and some won't even get delivered. They get rejected by the mail host who's getting the mail.
[23:25] <koltroll> I really haven't done any configuration besides installing postfix. My server is a VPS-server.
[23:26] <koltroll> *any postfix-configuration.
[23:27] <koltroll> I have numerous questions but I'll wait and see if there's anyone active before I keep on writing :)
[23:38] <cemc> can I change that instead of rebooting, ctrl+alt+del will shutdown 10.04 server ?
[23:44] <cemc> found it: /etc/init/control-alt-delete.conf