[04:26] <Muscovy> Is anyone present? I'm trying to set up a doodle poll for a meeting, but I'm not sure if I got the timezone stuff right.
[04:43] <Omega> Muscovy: I am, but heading to bed.
[04:43] <Muscovy> Omega, what time does http://www.doodle.com/7x96yy9ks98mnfkz start at?
[04:52] <Omega> It starts at 12 AM
[04:54] <Omega> Night.
[04:56] <Muscovy> Ok, good.
[04:56] <Muscovy> Wait.
[04:56] <Muscovy> Not good. :|
[04:56] <Muscovy> I'll ask someone who know what they're doing to set it up.
[04:57] <Muscovy> So that it actually displays the local times.
[04:57] <Muscovy> Thanks for checking.
[05:24] <UndiFineD> good morning
[17:12] <Muscovy> I was thinking about setting up a meeting for next weekend.
[17:12] <Muscovy> Does anyone know how to set up a doodle poll?
[17:12] <Muscovy> I tried, but it didn't convert timezones.
[17:19] <Omega> Who set it up last time?
[17:21] <Muscovy> Umm... brandonj I think.
[17:22] <Omega> Someone should ask when he comes on later
[17:22] <Omega> I will if I'm here
[17:28] <UndiFineD> Muscovy, I am ok with a meeting for next weekend, but maybe we could do it one hour earlier
[17:28] <Muscovy> UndiFineD: hence the time poll.
[17:29] <Muscovy> I figure weekends will be best for meetings, since we don't have school/work.
[17:29] <UndiFineD> I cook on saturday, and to start a six is troublesome :p
[17:32] <Muscovy> Ah.
[17:56] <Muscovy> I took a quick look through the tour, and a number of tours are only partially done, like Rhythmbox and Firefox.
[17:59] <Silasle> http://doodle.com/8bdh6v2w3g2mq3xf ?
[18:00] <Silasle> Why is the openetherpad still in the topic?
[18:01] <Muscovy> I'm not sure.
[18:01] <Muscovy> And thanks for that, Silasle.
[18:08] <Silasle> Why can i change the topic? I'm no operator!
[18:09] <Omega> the mode t is not set
[18:10] <Silasle> Well, that weekend is bad for me...
[18:13] <Muscovy> Perhaps we could set up a full clock?
[18:13] <Muscovy> A good 50% of that timespan I'm free, but a lot of the specific times I'm free aren't listed.
[18:14] <Silasle> Muscovy: I'll send you the admin link in an pm
[18:52]  * UndiFineD is Keimpe de Jong
[18:52] <UndiFineD> filled it out without a account
[19:16] <Muscovy> I've updated the times in the poll.
[19:17] <Muscovy> I don't think I can delete participants, so I just made an Alex(2), and filled in all OK times I hadn't filled in originally.
[19:17] <Silasle> You can delete
[19:18] <Silasle> I removed the old one
[19:19] <Muscovy> Ah.
[19:19] <Silasle> bbl
[19:23] <Muscovy> Ok, poll cleared up.
[21:39] <moiso> hi there
[21:39] <moiso> I joined the project to help w/ translations
[21:39] <moiso> i followed the instruction here: http://ubuntutour.org/contribute/branch/
[21:40] <moiso> after it dwnloads the branch, how can i work on it?
[21:41] <UndiFineD> hello moiso
[21:42] <UndiFineD> follow this guide: http://ubuntutour.org/contribute/branch/
[21:42] <UndiFineD> when you did bzr branch lp:ubuntu-tour
[21:43] <UndiFineD> do: bzr pull
[21:43] <UndiFineD> if you did that in your home-directory
[21:44] <UndiFineD> you can do your translations in ~/ubuntu-tour
[21:44] <UndiFineD> when you are done with (some) translations
[21:44] <UndiFineD> do:
[21:44] <UndiFineD> bzr pull
[21:45] <UndiFineD> bzr add
[21:45] <UndiFineD> bzr commit -m "What I did in this revision"
[21:45] <UndiFineD> bzr push lp:ubuntu-tour
[21:45] <moiso> ah ok now i understand
[21:46] <UndiFineD> great :)
[21:46] <UndiFineD> have fun, feel free to ask anything
[21:47] <UndiFineD> you can run the application by
[21:47] <UndiFineD> LANG=en_GB.utf8 && python ubuntu-tour.py
[21:47] <UndiFineD> change to your LANG accordingly
[21:50] <moiso> thak you Undefined!
[21:50] <moiso> now,
[21:51] <moiso> in order to translate, i need to read the text files in english, create a copy of each folder, and translate the content.. Am I right?
[21:52] <Muscovy> Yes.
[21:52] <UndiFineD> which language is your native moiso  ?
[21:53] <moiso> Spanish!
[21:54] <moiso> why do you ask? are there any special considerations
[21:54] <UndiFineD> no, just being curious :)
[21:55] <moiso> ok great. I'm from Costa Rica
[21:56]  * UndiFineD waves from the netherlands
[21:59]  * Muscovy waves from Canada.
[22:14] <moiso> how did you do that 'waves thing?
[22:16] <UndiFineD> ./me <-- without the dot
[22:16] <UndiFineD> one of the irc commands
[22:17] <moiso> uhh.. I'm kind of a noob
[22:19] <UndiFineD> it's ok, you'll learn eventually
[22:21] <moiso> yep that's the idea :)
[22:29] <moiso> what did you mean with  LANG=en_GB.utf8 && python ubuntu-tour.p to run the tour?
[22:30] <UndiFineD> LANG=en_GB.utf8 <-- sets the language to use
[22:30] <Muscovy> cd into the main directory of the tour, then run that.
[22:31] <Muscovy> The python ubuntu-tour.py part will actually start the tour.
[22:31] <UndiFineD> i was still typing that :p
[22:31] <moiso> ok i see. I just ran the  ubuntu-tour.py
[22:32] <moiso> and some sections where in spanish, others in english
[22:33] <UndiFineD> yes, if unavailable it will fall back to english by default
[22:35] <Muscovy> moiso, do you think you could take Spanish screenshots too?
[22:36] <moiso> of course, i'm here to help
[22:37] <moiso> just need a little guide from you guys
[22:37] <Muscovy> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTour/Screenshots
[22:37] <Muscovy> That page has the basic info.
[22:38] <Muscovy> There's an Ubuntu CD linked from that that has the the user and artwork all set up.
[22:41] <moiso> when it's the tour suposed to be ready?
[22:41] <Muscovy> WEELLL...
[22:41] <Muscovy> Not a defined date.
[22:41] <Muscovy> We HOPE we can have a cool one with our own CDs not long after 10.10 is released.
[22:42] <Muscovy> 11.04 is where we hope to become included.
[22:43] <moiso> haha i see, it's a lot work, i understand
[22:46] <moiso> help me w/ this: i ran the tour and noticed an inconsistence, it's related to the translation, so i'll do my best to explain it to you
[22:47] <Muscovy> Explain away.
[22:48] <Muscovy> By the way, if I'm online but not responsive, you can say "Muscovy" to get my attention.
[22:49] <moiso> in the text shown in the first screen, at the end of the paragraph it says: "click next to continue" in spanish it says: "Click en siguiente para continuar"
[22:49] <moiso> in spanish "siguiente" it's a word for "next"
[22:50] <moiso> but in the "next" button located at the down-rigth corner, it says "adelante"
[22:51] <moiso> "adelante" and "siguiente" are sinonyms in spanish, but it should be the same word the one that appears both in the button, and in the text
[22:54] <moiso> did you understand what i mean?
[22:57] <Muscovy> Yes.
[22:57] <Muscovy> Which word makes more sense to use, "siguiente" or "adelante", moiso?
[22:57] <moiso> "Siguiente" is the correct one according to the context
[22:58] <Muscovy> I'll check the code, I think the buttons might be hard-coded there.
[22:58] <moiso> who can change the button's tranlation
[22:59] <Muscovy> moiso: are there any accents in either word?
[23:00] <moiso> ok so I'm not able to change the button' translations. In situations like this it's better to report it to you?
[23:00] <moiso> no accents, just siguiente and adelante
[23:00] <Muscovy> Someone like me. MadnessRed is our main coder, but he's offline right now.
[23:00] <moiso> i see
[23:01] <Muscovy> The next button seems to be system-translated.
[23:02] <moiso> then is the text what i should change
[23:02] <Muscovy> Would it still make grammatical sense if "adelante" replaced "siguiente"?
[23:04] <moiso> it's not gramatically incorrect, but in spanish GUI's "siguiente" is more commonly used, and it sounds better
[23:05] <UndiFineD> the buttons are in gtk right ?, so if their translation is wrong, we need to file that upstream to gtk
[23:05] <Muscovy> I'm not sure where it lies.
[23:05] <Muscovy> Perhaps email madnessred@gmail.com (MadnessRed) about it.
[23:07] <UndiFineD> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/gtk+2.0
[23:08] <UndiFineD> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/gtk+2.0/+pots/gtk/en_GB/491/+translate
[23:10] <moiso> it's weird, because in lp the spanish translation for next is "siguiente", take alook: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/gtk+2.0/+pots/gtk/es/491/+translate
[23:11] <UndiFineD> which version of ubuntu are you using moiso  ?
[23:12] <UndiFineD> it might be, that this has already been corrected
[23:13] <UndiFineD> but you might still be using an older version, with wrong translations
[23:16] <moiso> hmm i'm in lucid, maybe that's the problem
[23:21] <Muscovy> I'm in Maverick, but I can't test it without resetting system language.
[23:22] <UndiFineD> indeed, it would require to install the spanish language pack
[23:25] <UndiFineD> ouch this going to hurd my system
[23:32] <UndiFineD> getting 2.6 GB from the internet
[23:32] <Muscovy> Oh dear. XD
[23:32] <UndiFineD> language packs
[23:32] <moiso> oO its big
[23:32] <UndiFineD> luckily i have a 120 mbit connection
[23:33] <UndiFineD> 888 files
[23:33] <UndiFineD> gn zz_Crisco
[23:33] <moiso> hm i envy you. 120 mbit
[23:34] <UndiFineD> standard max cable connection here
[23:34] <UndiFineD> overclocked my router to support it
[23:37] <UndiFineD> moiso, and I envy ftth users here
[23:38] <moiso> yay!
[23:39] <moiso> UndiFineD, just checked the lucid translation in lp and it says "Siguiente"
[23:40] <UndiFineD> well there are many python / gtk packages, I do not know which is used here
[23:42] <UndiFineD> pygtk, gtk, webbrowser
[23:56] <UndiFineD> moiso, maybe you can find out byt this way: http://www.google.com/search?q=python+gtk+adelante+siguiente&ei=g86fTNHkOpCFOP7-2J0L&start=10&sa=N
[23:58] <UndiFineD> using maverick i get the same
[23:58] <UndiFineD> LANG=es_ES.utf8 && python ubuntu-tour.py
[23:59] <UndiFineD> almost all languages are installed to my system now