bcurtiswxHey all, I think https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/642894 is not an empathy bug, but the indicator-applet.  Can someone take a look and confirm?01:56
ubot5`Launchpad bug 642894 in empathy (Ubuntu) "bubble twice text (affected: 1, heat: 107)" [Low,Confirmed]01:56
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CimiOT, didrocks, did someone add me to the wiki?11:14
Cimiops :D11:14
Cimiwas playing with weechat history11:15
didrocksCimi: still a lot of people are complaining about the light themes not making items visible, did you see it?11:15
Cimiyeah but I have opened a new branch11:16
Cimiit's more important to fix compiz btw11:17
Cimiit breaks the inactive window frames11:17
Cimihi chaotic11:46
chaotichi Cimi11:48
Cimichaotic: we still need to deal with few bugs11:55
Cimichaotic: people are complaining about inactive text in menus: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/61719211:56
ubot5`Launchpad bug 617192 in light-themes (Ubuntu) "[maverick-beta] Disabled menu items unreadable (affected: 21, heat: 129)" [Medium,Confirmed]11:56
Cimiand chaotic the patch for compiz was wrong, we *must* upload a new package https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/63441711:56
ubot5`Launchpad bug 634417 in compiz (Ubuntu) "[UIFE] tweaks to compiz for maverick (affected: 2, heat: 24)" [Undecided,In progress]11:57
chaoticCimi: I did say there isn't enough contrast12:00
Cimichaotic: so?12:02
chaoticCimi: we might have to change the way the diasabled menu items work12:20
Cimichaotic: it's not something easily doable with dark menus12:24
Cimiwe might want to change the position of the shadow12:24
chaoticCimi: I think we'll probably have to do something like this http://launchpadlibrarian.net/56501674/tb-menu.png12:24
chaoticbut a little more contrasted12:24
CimiI find that less usable btw12:25
CimiI can barely see which are active and which of them arent'12:25
chaoticas I said - but a bit more contrasted12:26
chaoticCimi: will do a quick mockup12:27
Cimiwe will still have the issue with the shadow12:28
Cimiwe might want to do an inset12:28
Cimion the pixels at the top12:28
Cimiat the bottom the latest branch I created12:29
CimiI can clearly see them12:29
Cimibut the attention goes to the active ones, I like that12:30
chaoticCimi: but they are not easily read which makes for bad usability12:34
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Cimidavidbarth: ping14:43
davidbarthCimi: pong14:48
Cimidavidbarth: I made a mistake patching compiz14:48
Cimiused 1 instead 1.0 in the patch :) I broke the inactive window deco14:49
Cimiwe need to upload the new package14:49
Cimibut kenvandine is on vacation I guess14:49
Cimithere's also another issue to deal with14:51
Cimiplease poke me when you have 5 mins14:52
davidbarthseb128: ^^ we need an emergency patch on compiz apparently14:52
Cimisorry guys14:53
seb128didrocks, ^14:53
CimiI thought ken tested my package but apparently he didn't14:53
didrocksseb128: on it too14:53
didrocks(the day will be long long… :))14:54
didrocksCimi: what's the patch? did you read my comments about the ubuntu-light package?14:54
Cimihere is the debdiff: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/634417/+attachment/1633401/+files/compiz_0.8.6-0ubuntu8_lp634417.debdiff14:54
ubot5`Launchpad bug 634417 in compiz (Ubuntu) "[UIFE] tweaks to compiz for maverick (affected: 2, heat: 24)" [Undecided,In progress]14:54
Cimididrocks: which comment in particular?14:55
didrocksCimi: a lot of people commented on the bug you're assigned about the inactive menu item still not being visible14:55
didrocksI think you should have received some bug reports about it :)14:55
CimiI had14:56
didrocksI think you should either answer on the bug or change something :)14:56
CimiI have replied to them the whole weekend :)14:56
CimiI don't think we could go to a bright midgrey color for maverick14:56
Cimiit's too late and requires patching the engine as well in order to get it done correctly14:57
didrocksCimi: ok, just wanted to know what was your position, thanks!14:57
Cimiso for the moment I have increased the darkness of the color, in order to have more contrast14:57
Cimiand I have created a new branch14:57
didrocksCimi: oh (seeing your diff) that's why the unfocused window was still transparent :)14:58
Cimidon't know who takes decisions here, but for me it would be cool to merge it and release a new package14:58
didrocksCimi: hum, so you have a fix somewhere?14:58
Cimifor the insensitive menuitems?14:58
Cimidavidbarth: I also have a new branch with rounded corners, if someone wants it: https://code.launchpad.net/~cimi/light-themes/rounded-bottom-corners15:00
didrocksCimi: yeah15:00
didrockshum, don't change everything15:00
didrocksbut I think taking the contrasted ones make sense15:01
Cimime too15:01
didrocksCimi: do you have the bug report about the constract handy? that will help me a lot :)15:02
ubot5`Launchpad bug 634417 in compiz (Ubuntu) "[UIFE] tweaks to compiz for maverick (affected: 2, heat: 24)" [Undecided,In progress]15:03
ubot5`Launchpad bug 617192 in light-themes (Ubuntu) "[maverick-beta] Disabled menu items unreadable (affected: 21, heat: 129)" [Medium,Confirmed]15:03
Cimiwithout the plus15:04
didrocksCimi: thanks a lot :)15:05
didrocksCimi: will sponsor both15:05
Cimicompiz is essential :)15:06
didrocksCimi: is it crashing? it's not there15:07
Cimibut makes window decoration transparent15:08
didrocksyeah (and I liked that TBH :))15:08
didrocksyou know, critical is crash :p15:08
didrockshere, it's maybe "high" for a designer point of view  ;)15:08
Cimicritical for my designer point of view :)15:09
Cimididrocks: can we get this uploaded today?15:09
didrocksCimi: it will be uploaded today, but I already have a queue of 10 pendings upload15:10
Cimibefore people will start breaking their gconf installations15:10
didrocksCimi: it won't break gconf installation, as default aren't copied15:10
didrocksdefault is default, it will be changed on update15:10
Cimiit will if you'll play with gconf-editor15:11
Cimias I did :)15:11
Cimii had to run gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/gwd15:11
didrocksyeah, but even the new one won't overwrite that if you play with gconf-editor15:11
didrockssame for everything… not only for those keys15:11
didrocksif you change defaults, you change defaults… :)15:11
Cimiif you change the value15:12
Cimiit still gets the old default15:12
Cimidon't know why15:12
didrocksno, it gets the changed value15:12
Cimimaybe because it was int/float15:12
Cimihere, even after changing the default15:12
Cimididn't work until I run gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/gwd15:12
didrocksdon't understand15:13
didrocksyou have one default value15:13
Cimii installed compiz15:13
didrocksthen, you change to your custom value15:13
Cimithe broken one15:13
Cimi"oh shit, let's set it to 1.0 trough gconf-editor"15:13
didrockswell, you change with gconf-editor, you choose whatever you want15:13
Cimididn't work15:13
Cimiok, so let's patch the defaults15:13
Cimi"damn, doesn't work"15:13
didrocksweird, it should work, at least at restart15:13
Cimieven after playing tieh gconf.editor again15:14
didrocksoh, patching the defaults15:14
Cimididn't work until I run gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/gwd15:14
didrocksyou change the default file?15:14
Cimiiirc yes15:14
didrockssure, you have to launch a script to take it into account15:14
didrocksthat's how gconf is working on debian and ubuntu15:14
bratschevish: Actually I think jimmac had talked about symbolic icons for years.15:29
bratschevish: And the code was implemented by hadess and mclasen.15:29
bratscheSo, not really sure how we contributed that. :)15:29
vishbratsche: yea, jimmac *always* likes monochrome colors because of obvious personal reasons.. ;)  but never not "symbolic" icon are how we planned it.. if you see the earlier shell mockups all the icons were color.. it was only after we started it for humanity and people liked it . that gnome used the idea..15:31
vishjimmac likes greyscale rather..15:32
bratscheI thought someone had talked about colorized mono icons several years ago.. maybe I forgot who it was, but I thought it was him.15:33
vishbratsche: he attended the symbolic icon session and pushed the idea in gnome.. IMO, its because of his backing it got more traction in gnome ;)15:34
bratscheOkay, cool.15:35
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Cimibratsche: ping22:54
bratscheCimi: pong23:20
bratscheHey dude.23:20
Cimibratsche: hi :)23:36
Cimiwould it be hard to patch GtkTreeview::odd-row-color to accept symbolic colors?23:37
CimiGtk-Message: (for origin information, set GTK_DEBUG): failed to retrieve property `GtkTreeView::odd-row-color' of type `GdkColor' from rc file value "((GString*) 0x93c62d0)" of type `GString'23:37
Cimithis is the error I have when using shade (0.96, @base_color)23:37
bratscheCimi: I don't think I can answer you right now, but I can try to find out.23:40
Cimino worries23:40
Cimithank you23:40
bratscheI need to look at the symbolic color implementation for another project of mine, so thanks for reminding me of this.23:42
Cimioooh ok :D23:46
bratscheCimi: You're up hacking pretty late tonight aren't you dude? :)23:46
bratscheHope it's something fun. :)23:47
Cimilistening to music and studying for the job interview i'll have with seb23:49
bratscheOh nice!  What's the job you're applying for?23:49
Cimidesign engineer23:49
bratscheGood luck!23:49
Cimithanks ;)23:49
bratscheListening to anything good?23:49
Cimijust searching for new artists23:50
Cimii'm gonna listen some acoustic sounds tonight23:50
bratscheCimi: What's the advantage of setting GtkTreeView::odd-row-color to a symbolic color?23:52
Cimibecause right now23:52
bratscheI mean, either way you're setting it to a static color right?23:52
Cimiif you set, i,e to #f5f5f523:52
Cimibut you change the base color in gnome appearance capplet23:52
Cimiyou'll have your cool new color for base23:53
Cimibut the #f5f5f523:53
Cimiwill still be present23:53
bratscheI guess I don't understand.. that's true with every widget part isn't it?23:54
bratscheIn the appearance capplet you can change to a different theme, but you can't really change individual widget pieces right?23:54
Cimibut you have control over the colors in the gtkrc23:55
bratscheI'm just trying to understand the use case still.23:55

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