[00:45] <ScottK> lex79: Is p-w-cwp a bug fix only update or new features too?
[00:56] <ScottK> lex79: Accepted.  Thanks.
[01:41] <lex79> ScottK: thanks. Changelog says it's a bugfix release and "debug information for icon codes added"
[01:45] <maco> is there some command you're supposed to run in a postinst to update the list of icons? i have a .desktop file and i have .png's in all the usual places...and i'm getting a "?" for the icon :-/
[01:45] <ScottK> lex79: Sounds like it doesn't need an FFe.
[01:46] <lex79> nope, add debug code is not a new feauture
[01:46] <ScottK> maco: Does dh_icons or dh_iconcache still do that?  I can't recall if they are both deprecated or not.
[01:47] <lex79> dh_icons is deprecated
[01:48] <persia> dh_iconcache was only an Ubuntuism, and is long deprecated.  There's a trigger that's supposed to get hit when new files get stored anywhere under /usr/share/applications/
[01:51]  * lex79 updated a ton of packages in backports ppa
[02:32] <persia> maco, I just installed a fresh kubuntu-desktop in a chroot, and it seems there is no trigger for /usr/share/applications being installed, which means nothing is happening.
[02:33] <persia> This is probably a regression, and so worth a bug and some arm-waving.
[02:33] <maco> woo not my package being broken!
[02:33] <persia> If anyone knows which package should be doing this for KDE menus (it's desktop-file-utils and python-gmenu for GNOME), we can fix it fairly simply.
[02:34] <maco> so hmm where does this trigger normally come from?
[02:34] <persia> maco, To confirm, log-out/log-in makes the icon work?
[02:34] <maco> no it does not
[02:34] <maco> i have rebooted
[02:34] <persia> rebooting?
[02:34] <persia> If rebooting doesn't work, there's something other than the iconcache at work.
[02:34] <maco> (where rebooted = my battery died, and ive booted / logged in since)
[02:36] <maco> hrmph
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[05:32] <cape> hey
[05:33] <cape> can anyone help me?  i have a business type question..
[07:44] <micahg> Riddell: ping re gears
[09:08] <markey> oh shiiiiit
[09:08] <markey> Maverick comes with libdbus 1.3
[09:09] <markey> you realize  that this has major issues with multithreaded apps?
[09:09] <markey> you should have used 1.4
[09:09] <markey> it's fixed there
[09:10] <markey> see here:
[09:10] <markey> http://lists.kde.org/?t=128514970000004&r=1&w=2
[09:15] <debfx> markey: ii  libdbus-1-3                                1.2.24-3ubuntu1                                 simple interprocess messaging system
[09:15] <debfx> that's libdbus 1.2
[09:21] <markey> Version: 1.2.24-3ubuntu1
[09:21] <markey> geez :)
[09:21] <markey> what's with the stone age version? :)
[09:22] <debfx> ^^
[09:23]  * micahg notes that's the version in squeeze and sid and 1.4 was uploaded to experimental 2 days before Final Freeze
[09:24] <markey> possibly worth an exception
[09:24] <markey> if you look at what Dolphin does with it....
[09:24] <markey> Penz blogged about it
[09:27] <debfx> I don't think we want to upgrade such important components two weeks before release ;)
[09:28] <markey> no risk, no fun :p
[09:28] <markey> if Dolphin crashes left and right that kinda sucks too
[09:29] <Mamarok> riight, that explains it, so we are off to dolphin crashes for the next 6 months :(
[09:29] <markey> and Amarok, and many more
[09:30] <markey> test
[09:30] <Mamarok> brilliant, all KDE apps that are mutithreaded, which is almost half of it
[09:30] <markey> shit, I hit ctrl-l, it cleared my channel buffer
[09:30] <markey> what a stuoid feature :p
[09:30] <Mamarok> course it does :)
[09:31] <maco> Riddell: read what they said ^^^^^^^
[09:32] <maco> (figure the highlight might help)
[09:32] <debfx> well amarok never crashed for me in maverick
[09:33] <markey> debfx: depends on the Phonon backend, it's basically just coincidence (race conditions)
[09:33] <markey> with VLC it crashes a lot
[09:33] <debfx> are the vlc backend crashes dbus related?
[09:34] <markey> if they happen on track change, then yes
[10:08] <Riddell> micahg: pong
[10:10] <micahg> Riddell: hi, chrisccoulson mentioned that kubuntu does something with gears
[10:10] <micahg> I'm considering dropping it since Google has abandoned it and it won't support Firefox 4 as far as we know
[10:11] <Riddell> ScottK: nothing has been added to the ubuntu.maverick seed for some days
[10:14] <markey> lol
[10:14] <markey> [10:56] <CIA-37> Edward Hades master * rv2.3.2-69-g9f9ada8 /cmake/modules/FindMtp.cmake: FindMtp.cmake: Fixed mistyped variable
[10:14] <markey> shadeslayer: debfx: it was a typo....
[10:14] <markey> one wrong character :p
[10:33] <micahg> Riddell: any idea about gears?
[10:39] <Riddell> micahg: dunno about gears, we have support for Plasma to use google gadgets with plasma-scriptengine-googlegadgets
[10:39] <Riddell> as far as I know Google Gears is a mozilla extension and we don't have anything to do with that
[10:41] <markey> what was the PPA for the new Choqok again? someone here in the channel gave it to
[10:41] <markey> (worked great)
[10:41] <markey> was it ScottK?
[10:42] <micahg> Riddell: k, thanks, makes sense
[10:48] <jussi> good morning all
[10:50] <markey> Mamarok: found it :)
[10:50] <markey> 54.155.203).
[10:50] <markey> [11:41] <markey> what was the PPA for the new Choqok again?
[10:50] <markey> oops
[10:50] <markey> https://launchpad.net/~adilson/+archive/experimental
[10:50] <markey> ^
[10:50] <markey> (sry, paste fail)
[10:54] <Mamarok> markey: only thing we need to find now is a PPA with a more recent libdbus...
[10:54] <markey> Mamarok: I doubt you can simply upgrade that, it could have side effects on other packages
[10:55] <markey> dunno
[10:55] <markey> maybe you can
[12:18]  * Riddell uploads liblastfm with fix requested by Leo
[12:23]  * Riddell uploads the qtreeview scroll fix requested for qt
[12:35] <markey> Riddell: thanks :)
[12:35] <markey> now upload libdbus 1.4 for Maverick too ;)
[12:35] <markey> then we're happy
[12:35] <Riddell> mm, that's a pain, I wish I'd noticed that release earlier
[12:36] <Riddell> I suspect it's too late now
[12:36] <markey> indeed....
[12:36] <markey> Dolphin is very crashy / laggy now
[12:36] <markey> sucks
[12:36] <markey> if you can, at least try to get it in
[12:36] <markey> talk to your boss or something
[12:36] <markey> Thiago recommends to upgrade ASAP in all distros
[12:38] <Riddell> markey: do you have the links to the relevant KDE and freedesktop.org bugs?
[12:39] <markey> Riddell: for a start, I have this: http://lists.kde.org/?t=128514970000004&r=1&w=2
[12:39] <markey> Riddell: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17754
[12:39] <markey> :)
[12:39] <ubottu> Freedesktop bug 17754 in core "Race condition in protected_change_timeout" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]
[12:40] <markey> and here is Penz ranting about the bug: http://dot.kde.org/2010/08/31/kde-releases-451
[12:40] <markey> he's a sad panda
[12:47] <\sh> Riddell: moins
[12:47] <\sh> Riddell: you removed on request libbeagle source + binaries from maverick...can we get rid of kio-beagle too? it build-depends  on it
[12:48] <\sh> Riddell: oh...sorry..there is already a removal request for kio-beagle pending
[12:49] <Riddell> \sh: can do, what's the beastie numbet?
[12:49] <Riddell> number
[12:49] <\sh> bug #647960
[12:49] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 647960 in kio-beagle (Ubuntu) "Please remove kio-beagle from the archive" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/647960
[12:51] <Riddell> removed
[12:52] <\sh> Riddell: you rock :)
[12:58] <\sh> Riddell: what about "hotswap" source? it needs mcopidl but I don't find it anymore in maverick
[12:58] <\sh> Riddell: http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~lucas/ubuntu-nbs/32/hotswap_0.4.0-11_lubuntu32.buildlog :)
[13:01] <Riddell> \sh: I'll remove it
[13:01] <\sh> Riddell: ok :)
[13:02] <micahg> ugh, no update in 2 yrs...
[13:02]  * \sh meeting now... bbi 1h
[13:12] <glaucous> What exactly was the dist-upgrade that came today (or yesterday?)? Maverick beta?
[13:13] <Riddell> glaucous: gg:maverick-changes
[13:15] <Riddell> ouch http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/dbus_1.4.0-0ubuntu1.debdiff
[13:16] <glaucous> Riddell: All right, thanks. time to restart and test it out
[13:34] <ScottK> Riddell: I seen to have a problem on my netbook that the top ribbon on the application windows is no longer removed.  
[13:34] <ScottK> First time I've touched the netbook since last week, so not sure when it appeared.
[13:36] <Riddell> what top ribbon?
[13:39] <glaucous> Riddell: Looks like last dist-upgrade killed ATI drivers 10.9 (did try reinstall), anything I could try out?
[13:39] <shadeslayer> markey: bahahaha :P
[13:41] <glaucous> Seems like Xorg 1.9 isn't supported in ATI latest drivers, is it possible to downgrade to a previous version?
[13:42] <shadeslayer> wheee... got my passport :)
[13:43] <Riddell> glaucous: I don't know, we mostly just do KDE here, X developers are elsewhere
[13:44] <glaucous> Riddell: That does make sense :)
[13:44] <markey> Riddell: what news wrt libdbus?
[13:44] <ScottK> Riddell: The one that has the icon, title, maximize/minimize/close buttons.
[13:44] <ScottK> Those aren
[13:44] <ScottK> aren't supposed to be there on netbook.
[13:45] <Riddell> ScottK: trying today's live image I have no window borders on maximised windows
[13:46] <ScottK> Riddell: OK.  Thanks. Probably some local config thing.  I'll fiddle with it.
[13:46] <ScottK> I'm glad to know it's not general.
[14:15] <shadeslayer> jussi: congrats :D
[14:27] <shadeslayer> Riddell: pingly
[14:28] <shadeslayer> Riddell: bug 648103
[14:28] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 648103 in kplayer (Ubuntu) "Please move kplayer from multiverse to universe" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/648103
[14:30] <Riddell> shadeslayer: hi
[14:31]  * shadeslayer waves
[14:31] <Riddell> done
[14:32] <shadeslayer> ah thanks :D
[14:53] <dantti_work> agateau: ping
[14:53] <agateau> dantti_work: pong
[14:53] <dantti_work> Riddell: when is the dead line for bug fixes? :)
[14:53] <dantti_work> agateau: hey, the KPixmapSequenceOverlayPainter has a bug :P
[14:54] <agateau> dantti_work: fix it! :)
[14:54] <dantti_work> agateau: iirc you are the maintaner right ?
[14:54] <agateau> dantti_work: sort of
[14:54] <dantti_work> you know it better :P
[14:54] <dantti_work> if KPixmapSequence cannot load the pixmap KPixmapSequenceOverlayPainter crashes the app
[14:54] <agateau> dantti_work: actually this class was written by Sebastian Trueg
[14:55] <agateau> dantti_work: wow
[14:55] <dantti_work> so should I poke him?
[14:55] <agateau> dantti_work: should be an easy fix
[14:55] <dantti_work> a KPackageKit user which was using ubuntu studio icon theme reported this
[14:55] <dantti_work> and he had the oxygem theme
[14:55] <agateau> dantti_work: do you have the backtrace?
[14:56] <dantti_work> no but it's easy to do, let me remove the animation file
[14:56] <Riddell> dantti_work: freeze for RC is tomorrow European morning, it'll be less frozen (still manual review) after Thursday until final final freeze a week tomorrow
[14:56] <dantti_work> agateau: actually the bt on the bug is ok https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=252263
[14:56] <ubottu> KDE bug 252263 in general "Kpackagekit crashes every time I attempt to use it" [Crash,Resolved: waitingforinfo]
[14:57] <dantti_work> Riddell: k, I'll try to fix the tray icon, and I think I'll disable animations since the got blurred after qt 4.7
[14:57] <dantti_work> *they
[14:58] <Riddell> dantti_work: great, those are the two obvious issues
[14:59] <dantti_work> Riddell: yes, btw if I have time I'm planning to write docs, is it a problem for it to be added (surelly they won't be translated)
[15:01] <Riddell> dantti_work: I'd say it's too late for that, it would change the size of the CDs and they wouldn't be translated
[15:01] <dantti_work> Riddell: k, so less work to do now :P
[15:14] <agateau> dantti_work: Can you try this patch? http://pastebin.com/SgEqeUth
[15:16] <\sh> Riddell: what about kvdr? as well the "mcopidl" problem
[15:16] <dantti_work> agateau: I can but it will take a bit of time since I have to download the source for that file and make it compile togheter with kpk :P since I have no trunk instalation...
[15:17] <Riddell> \sh: consider it dead
[15:18] <agateau> dantti_work: oh :/
[15:18] <agateau> dantti_work: as a kde developer you should always have a compiled copy of kdelibs handy somewhere
[15:19] <agateau> dantti_work: it helps a lot for debugging (and fixing occasional bugs in the libs themselves)
[15:19] <dantti_work> agateau: nah.. too much work :P
[15:19] <dantti_work> last fix I did in kdelibs I did the same...
[15:19] <agateau> dantti_work: "kdesrc-build kdelibs" is all it takes
[15:19] <dantti_work> it takes a lot of time to download, setup, i prefer to focus on coding..
[15:20] <glaucous> The Kubuntu backports, did the latest update contain Xorg 1.9?
[15:20] <agateau> dantti_work: kdesrc-build takes care of downloading, updating, building and installing in a separate dir
[15:20] <agateau> dantti_work: all you have to do is set it up *once*
[15:20] <dantti_work> agateau: not counting the hd space which I don't have much
[15:22] <agateau> dantti_work: we are talking about around 4Gb here
[15:22] <agateau> err 4 GB
[15:22]  * dantti_work wishes to have 4gb of free space :P
[15:23] <dantti_work> last time I cleaned up my hd I got 2.5 free gb
[15:23] <agateau> apt-cache clean :)
[15:23] <dantti_work> my / is separated apt-cache clean doesn't help
[15:23] <dantti_work> well I should buy a new hd anyways :P
[15:24] <agateau> dantti_work: ah, just put your checkout on / then :)
[15:25] <dantti_work> dammit you got me :P
[15:30] <\sh> Riddell: k
[15:33] <dantti_work> agateau: great I could reproduce it at home but here it is showing that question mark :P let me try changing the icon theme
[15:39] <shadeslayer> Riddell: got a sec? PM please
[15:41] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yo
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[16:51] <Riddell> jussi: facebook is confusing me
[16:52] <Riddell> ooh, canoeing at thingy
[16:54] <Riddell> RECENT ACTIVITY Jussi is married to Sari Schultink   gosh, amazing the things one learns on facebook
=== Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Maverick Beta released! | Todo: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Milestoned bugs tagged Kubuntu http://tinyurl.com/33p7vu3 | Final Freeze in Effect | Congratulations Jussi
[16:55] <rbelem> Riddell, http://gitorious.org/qt-web-runtime
[16:56] <rbelem> Riddell, i married in june :-D and my son will born in the start of december :-D
[16:56] <rbelem> jussi, congrats :-D
=== Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Maverick Beta released! | Todo: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Milestoned bugs tagged Kubuntu http://tinyurl.com/33p7vu3 | Final Freeze in Effect | Congratulations Jussi and rbelem
[16:57] <rbelem> :-D
[16:59] <Quintasan> god damn
[16:59] <Quintasan> I'm not going to uds
[17:00] <Riddell> aww, how not?
[17:01] <Quintasan> Riddell: too much hassle this time, I don't have time to go and get a visa, plus I'm not sure if I would be even able to get out of Poland on Sunday
[17:02] <Quintasan> and tons of important school stuff coming up
[17:02] <Quintasan> exacly at monday
[17:02] <Quintasan> :/
[17:02] <Quintasan> Riddell: next UDS is in May?
[17:02] <Riddell> yes, then abouts
[17:03] <Quintasan> I hope it will be somewhere in Europe, I will be 18 by that time and there won't be any problems
[17:17] <Riddell> rbelem: last chance for samba stuff today, too late I presume?
[17:20] <rbelem> Riddell, I manage to update the properties plugin, but i did not finish the kcm
[17:21] <Riddell> rbelem: what does that mean the user can/can't do?
[17:25] <rbelem> Riddell, the user can't manage the shares in the system settings, just in right click -> properties
[17:25] <rbelem> on dolphin
[17:26] <rbelem> is it ok?
[17:26] <Riddell> that's still a bit improvement
[17:26] <Riddell> big
[17:26] <rbelem> Riddell, and I removed the nfs sharing stuff
[17:26] <rbelem> :-)
[17:26] <Riddell> yes, that should go
[17:26] <rbelem> cool
[17:26] <Riddell> rbelem: do you have patches then?
[17:27] <rbelem> Riddell, yup
[17:27] <rbelem> Riddell, I send the kdelibs part to reviewboard
[17:27] <rbelem> and the gui just need some polish
[17:32]  * rbelem going to lunch
[17:32] <rbelem> brb
[18:58] <shadeslayer> apachelogger taking a break from IRC? :P
[19:50] <ScottK> Riddell: I removed some settings and let it regenerate and it was fine, so I guess I did something screwy.  Thanks again for checking.
[19:58] <lex79> is there a chance to have a new iso cd with the last version of ubiquity before tomorrow?
[20:02] <ScottK> Riddell: ^^^
[20:02] <ScottK> lex79: What architecture?
[20:02] <lex79> i386
[20:04] <ScottK> I'll ask since it doesn't seem Riddell is immediately available.
[20:06] <lex79> thanks, I want do a fresh install :)
[20:10] <Riddell> hi
[20:10] <Riddell> lex79: apt-get dist-upgrade works on a live CD
[20:11] <lex79> right, ok
[20:11] <Riddell> but I can rebuild the CDs anyway if you want
[20:12] <lex79> Riddell: no needed, I will do dist-upgrade
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[20:13] <ScottK> So the rebuild isn't needed?
[20:13] <Riddell> ScottK: nope
[20:13] <lex79> ScottK: no needed, thanks
[20:13] <ScottK> OK.
[20:14] <Riddell> rbelem: is your patch for samba in kdebase available?
[20:16] <rbelem> Riddell, not yet. i'm going to finish it
[20:17] <rbelem> Riddell, what is the deadline time? :-)
[20:21] <ScottK> About 5 hours from now, I believe.
[20:25] <rbelem> ScottK, i think i manage to finish. i just need to finish some stuff of my job and then i will back to ksamba gui
[20:39] <dantti> is it possible to install kubuntu over an already installed linux? (it does not boot the usb stick, the cd rom drive does not work and I have no floppy disks anymore :P )
[20:40] <rbelem> dantti, yuo
[20:40] <rbelem> yup
[20:41] <dantti> rbelem: how :D ?
[20:43] <rbelem> dantti, http://www.underhanded.org/papers/debian-conversion/remotedeb.html
[20:43] <rbelem> dantti, :-)
[20:43] <dantti> rbelem: thanks ;)
[20:44] <rbelem> ;-)
[20:45] <sheytan_> dantti what should i do again? :D
[20:46] <dantti> sheytan_: so do you know the process-working animation?
[20:46] <sheytan_> dantti this means? :D
[20:47] <dantti> sheytan_: /usr/share/icons/oxygen/22x22/animations/process-working-kde.png
[20:47] <sheytan_> dantti got it, now what? :D
[20:48] <dantti> well in kpk/animations/scalable you have all the frames
[20:48] <dantti> you just need to export and create a wide png like this
[20:49] <dantti> once you got the idea and have any idea for a removing animation would be nice too :D
[20:49] <sheytan_> dantti i don't have 'animations' folder in my kpk svn
[20:49] <sheytan_> ah
[20:49] <sheytan_> got it :D
[20:50] <dantti> :)
[20:50] <sheytan_> dantti: but the icons works now and they're are the cooler one now ;D
[20:50] <sheytan_> so the deal is to replace them with some oxygen onse?
[20:51] <dantti> sheytan_: no, the problem is that qt4.7 for some reason renders the .mng (png movie) blurred
[20:51] <sheytan_> dantti: oooh, that's the problem. Hmmm
[20:52] <dantti> with this instead of using .mng files we use a single .png that contains the frames and won't be blurred (I hope :P )
[20:52] <dantti> at least the process-working is not blurred
[20:54] <sheytan_> dantti: this sounds like some work for Thursday
[20:54] <sheytan_> can't tomorrow, girlfriend comes :D
[20:54] <sheytan_> but i'll take a look at it now ;)
[20:55] <dantti> sheytan_: no hurry :) 
[20:55] <sheytan_> dantti: ok ok :)
[20:57] <sheytan_> dantti: should it have a fixed size?
[20:57] <sheytan_> like 64px?
[21:02] <dantti> sheytan_: the current one is 48px
[21:04] <sheytan_> dantti: ok, so i'll make it 48 ;)
[21:05] <lex79> ScottK: do you have time to sync plasma-widget-cwp?
[21:06] <dantti> sheytan_: thanks
[21:06] <ScottK> lex79: I can't do sync's.  One needs shell access for that.
[21:06] <ScottK> Riddell might be around to do it.
[21:06] <sheytan_> dantti: welcome ;)
[21:06] <lex79> ah ok
[21:06] <Riddell> moi?
[21:07] <Riddell> I'm busy approving bloody gnome uploads
[21:07] <lex79> just a sync Riddell, gnome can wait
[21:07] <lex79> :P
[21:07] <Riddell> true
[21:07] <lex79> bug 648402
[21:07] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 648402 in plasma-widget-cwp (Ubuntu) "Please sync plasma-widget-cwp 1.2.2-1 with Debian experimental" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/648402
[21:07] <ScottK> OK, so take a break and do something important (i.e. lex79's Universe KDE sync)
[21:07] <lex79> :D
[21:08] <Riddell> ScottK: what should I do with this mesa upload?
[21:08] <Riddell> [Nothing to update] plasma-widget-cwp (1.2.1-1 [ubuntu] >= 1.1.1-3 [debian])
[21:08] <Riddell> lex79: ^^
[21:08] <ScottK> Riddell: I'd say accept it.  I've tested it on my netbook and it makes things better.
[21:08] <lex79> Riddell: uh? with experimental?
[21:08] <ScottK> If it breaks Unity again, blame RAOF.
[21:09] <Riddell> lex79: ah well, you didn't say experimental
[21:10] <lex79> gnome stuff makes you insanity, I wrote there ^
[21:10] <lex79> :D
[21:10] <Riddell> 2010-09-27 20:09:52 INFO      - <plasma-widget-cwp_1.2.2-1.dsc: downloading from http://ftp.debian.org/debian/>
[21:10] <Riddell> lex79: voila
[21:10] <lex79> good thanks
[21:12] <ulysses> JontheEchidna: in src:/kded/UpdateEvent/UpdateEvent.cpp:53 there is a typo: „secuirty”
[21:25] <sabdfl> ScottK, Riddell: lp:ubuntu-font-licence should give you the 1.0
[21:26] <ScottK> sabdfl: I heard it was decided (and from what I've heard, I agree).  Last I looked it wasn't published yet.
[21:26]  * ScottK looks again.
[21:26] <sabdfl> i just pushed it there :-)
[21:29] <Riddell> sabdfl: awooga!
[21:30] <maco> ah licence...british...right
[21:30]  * sabdfl guesses that's Scottish for "Phew in the nick of time" :)
[21:30] <sabdfl> maco: you make it sound like they didn't actually invent the language ;-)
[21:31] <maco> sabdfl: nah, i concede that they have authority over it :) just screws up my typing when i hit those -ence words (ive got -ise down pretty well though)
[21:32] <Riddell> just remember the verb is license and you'll be fine
[21:38] <JontheEchidna> ulysses: thanks
[21:39] <CIA-116> [muon] jmthomas * 1180388 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/kded/UpdateEvent/UpdateEvent.cpp typo--
[21:42] <CIA-116> [muon] jmthomas * 1180390 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/updater/main.cpp Use the muon catalog as the main l10n catalog
[21:43] <CIA-116> [muon] jmthomas * 1180391 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/kded/MuonNotifier.cpp Notifier l10n is in the muon catalog too, so use it
[21:46] <Riddell> JontheEchidna, neversfelde, rgreening: council ping, can we agree to put the ubuntu font on the CD?  won't be default, but we have enough space for it
[21:46] <JontheEchidna> +1 Shouldn't be a controversy if it's licensed properly and isn't default
[21:46] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: lp:ubuntu-font-licence has the licence, it's all good
[21:46] <ScottK> +1 from me.
[22:06] <maco> Riddell: wait what? you have BOTH license AND licence?
[22:08] <Riddell> maco: as different words yes
[22:08] <maco> oh boo! now that's too confusing
[22:10] <CIA-116> [muon] jmthomas * 1180397 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (Application.cpp main.cpp) Add i18n support for app-install-data translations
[22:11] <dasKreech> maco: Why?
[22:11] <dasKreech> Same as colour and color 
[22:11] <maco> no, they always use colour, dont they?
[22:12] <maco> Riddell's saying license and licence are both valid en_UK depending on whether you need a noun or a verb
[22:12] <maco> (though...hmm...trusting Riddell's spelling skills...)
[22:12] <Riddell> it's always colour
[22:12] <Riddell> and we license the licence correctly
[22:13] <dasKreech> Ah right yes in that sense it's correct as well
[22:13] <dasKreech> like center and centre 
[22:14] <maco> i thought they always used centre too!
[22:15] <JontheEchidna> !find !find es/LC_MESSAGES/app-install-data
[22:15] <ubottu> es/LC_MESSAGES/app-install-data is not a valid distribution: hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, jaunty, jaunty-backports, jaunty-proposed, karmic, karmic-backports, karmic-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, maverick, maverick-backports, maverick-proposed, medibuntu, partner, stable, testing, unstable
[22:15] <Riddell> it's always centre
[22:15] <JontheEchidna> !find es/LC_MESSAGES/app-install-data
[22:15] <ubottu> File es/LC_MESSAGES/app-install-data found in language-pack-gnome-es-base
[22:15] <JontheEchidna> :/
[22:15] <JontheEchidna> no wonder I don't have it
[22:15] <Riddell> what are you trying to do?
[22:15] <JontheEchidna> test my muon-installer changes
[22:15] <JontheEchidna> but the app-install-data.mo is in the stinky gnome packages
[22:16] <maco> doh
[22:18] <JontheEchidna> no dpm around... I should file a bug
[22:28] <JontheEchidna> bug 649339, if anyone was interested
[22:28] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 649339 in Ubuntu Translations "app-install-data.mo is in -gnome language packs when it is useful in other DE's" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/649339
[22:29] <neversfelde> Riddell: sounds ok to me
[22:41]  * ScottK considers the irony of Riddell defending the spelling practices of his imperial overlords...
[22:42] <dasKreech> It's the Queens English
[22:43] <ScottK> Right.  That would be the imperial overlord in chief.
[22:43] <ScottK> (at least in a symbolic, can't actually do anything way)
[22:44] <dasKreech> You mean the queen is symbolic and can't actually do anythign?
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[23:24] <ScottK> Yes.
[23:24] <dasKreech> lol
[23:30] <lex79> he's right :)
[23:38] <lex79> ScottK: something that Luca Falavigna (DktrKranz) wants show you: http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/55/dokos.png
[23:38] <lex79> :D
[23:43] <ScottK> Heh.
[23:43] <ScottK> It's slightly more complex than that of course.
[23:45] <lex79> ;)
[23:50] <eMyller> hello again
[23:50] <eMyller> is any of you running kubuntu on top of a ck-patched kernel?
[23:51] <eMyller> i'm willing to test it in my pc, my i want to follow a kickass and failsafe guide..