[00:05] <kklimonda> hey BUGabundo
[00:08] <BUGabundo> hey kklimonda
[00:08] <BUGabundo> did you drop me on your JID list?
[00:08] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: no
[00:09] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: hmm, you don't get messages from me?
[00:09] <kklimonda> oh, you did
[00:14] <archer> hi repost my issue : amd 64 failed to hibernate or sleep with on screen message: drm atom_bios loop, drm atom_execute_table_locked.
[00:15] <archer> it is a L310 cpu with ati 3200 HD. someone here?
[00:16] <BUGabundo> some are
[00:16] <archer> nice to hear that.
[00:17] <archer> The error message was not recorded in any written log. And the unit finally comes to a shutdown.
[00:18] <archer> i didn't not remember them all, but it appears that maverick meets a dead loop with bios and don't know how to deal with such operation request
[00:21] <BUGabundo> archer: really???
[00:22] <shilow> has anyone solved the problem with  dpkg-reconfigure and   cron  once i upgraded to   10.10 i haven't been able to  run dpkg-reconfigure -a  because it  stops  after it hits cron
[00:22] <archer> yes. BUGabundo
[00:22] <BUGabundo> why the whois ?
[00:22] <BUGabundo> pff
[00:22] <archer> ???
[00:23] <shilow> anyone?
[00:23] <shilow> ive  did the  good ol google but  i havent found any answers
[00:23] <archer> shilow, I have no clue.
[00:23] <archer> what is your local time, BUGabundo
[00:24] <BUGabundo> GMT +1
[00:24] <jbroome> ah, KVM/apparmor wasn't happy with my .img files in a non-std location.  put them back rebooted and VM started
[00:33] <archer> today's update : ia32-libs (20090808ubuntu6) ...
[00:33] <archer> g_module_open() failed for /usr/lib32/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-jasper.so: libjasper.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[00:35] <kklimonda> ia32-libs strikes again
[00:35] <mellhen> Hy @all
[00:36] <mellhen> i would like to test the new ubuntu font in kubuntu
[00:36] <mellhen> how can i do that?
[00:39] <archer> yes it appears to ia32libs
[00:40] <archer> launchpad bug board said it is already fixed . but update is not helpful yet
[00:58] <Blue1> seem to be having X issues with my nvidia card, known problem?
[00:59] <jbroome> Blue1: did you re-reun the nvidia installer after a kernel upgrade?
[01:00] <Blue1> well I did ALL the upgrades, then apt-get the nividia-185 driver --
[01:00] <Blue1> iow it worked in 10.04, but didn't in 10.10 -- in drivers were ever installed.
[01:01] <Blue1> fresh install btw, NOT upgrade
[01:01] <archer> hum
[01:01] <archer> ATI even worse.
[01:02] <Blue1> yes.
[01:02] <archer> i give up anyhow
[01:02] <yofel> Blue1: there is no 185 driver in lucid and maverick, in lucid it should pull in 195, in maverick I don't know
[01:03] <yofel> the new nvidia package is nvidia-current
[01:03] <bjsnider> there is a 185 driver package in maverick, but it's a dummy that pulls in nvidia-current
[01:03] <archer> my hd3200 has been never correctly recognized by fglrx.
[01:03] <bjsnider> people should be using jockey to instal it
[01:03] <archer> noway
[01:03] <archer> how to use jockey?
[01:04] <archer> no such button or so
[01:04] <Blue1> i think I tryed jockey-gtk iirc
[01:05] <archer> need to  reboot. brb
[01:05] <Blue1> well it hauled in to drivers, I was surprised.
[01:05] <archer> always.
[01:06] <archer> you are already a worrier to use maverick
[01:06] <Blue1> hmm
[01:10] <archer> the first reason to try maverick, was that lucid doesn't support my hardware
[01:12] <archer> what will happen if i remove ia32-libs
[01:13] <Quutar> wierd question... I run Ubuntu in VirtualBox... 10.04.1 works fine in it... but when i upgrade to 10.10 the video driver reverts back to 800x600 and the bidirectional clipboard goes away
[01:13] <kklimonda> archer: there is a backported kernel from maverick for lucid
[01:14] <Quutar> is there a new guestOS drivers setup for 10.10?
[01:14] <archer> kklimonda,  that is to say it is still some kind of kernal>?
[01:14] <kklimonda> archer: ?
[01:14] <archer> ia32
[01:15] <archer> is it safe to remove that ia32-lib ?
[01:15] <kklimonda> archer: well, it's been a comment to your previous statement about running maverick because lucid doesn't support your hardware.
[01:15] <kklimonda> archer: yeah, it is
[01:15] <kklimonda> as long as you don't plan on running 32bit applications
[01:15] <archer> hum..
[01:15] <archer> anonnyyyyinnnggg
[01:16] <Blue1> how about that - intalled a vanila xorg.conf and 10.10 came up.
[01:16] <yofel> Blue1: if you installed nvidia without jockey you need to create a xorg.conf yourself, yes...
[01:16] <archer> at least flash is 32bit,
[01:16] <yofel> or run nvidia-xconfig for that matter
[01:16] <kklimonda> archer: there is a 64bit flash available from adobe
[01:17] <kklimonda> it works better here then the 32bit version
[01:17] <archer> k
[01:17] <archer> remove it
[01:17] <Blue1> kklimonda: yesh the 64 bit flash plugin works way way better then the 32 bit shoe horned version on 64 bit systems
[01:18] <archer> but i am still afraid
[01:18] <archer> that libsound32 is ..
[01:18] <kklimonda> then don't use beta software
[01:18] <kklimonda> what about it?
[01:18] <archer> lib32sound2 is very important
[01:19] <archer> for skype some player
[01:19] <archer> who care, remove first
[01:19] <archer> i hate to read error report
[01:19] <kklimonda> what are you trying to accomplish?
[01:20] <archer> avoid chain effect from ia32
[01:20] <kklimonda> why are you removing it?
[01:22] <archer> errors
[01:22] <kklimonda> oh, cool
[01:22] <kklimonda> heh
[01:22] <archer> launchpad error
[01:22] <archer> incorrectly displaying some items
[01:23] <kklimonda> I don't think how is it related to ia32-libs?
[01:24] <archer> after a error on apt-get upgrade
[01:25] <archer> yeap i don;'t believe it is even related
[01:25] <archer> but after removal , all the desktop interface appears correct
[01:26] <archer> since that error message was the only clue to me
[01:27] <archer> you know
[01:27] <archer> there are running tasks, date, time, im, power-off items on gnome
[01:28] <archer> with that error message, date,time,power off are in a mess
[01:30] <archer> i got it
[01:31] <archer> that might explain why i cannot install ATI version display driver.
[01:31] <archer> with ia32 in bugs itself, how can its 32bit driver program be reliable? and ati drop latest xorg
[01:36] <archer> Blue1,
[01:36] <yofel> erm, you can't install 32bit drivers on a 64bit system
[01:36] <archer> is that true that adobe player is mroe laggy
[01:36] <yofel> applications mights still work with ia32-libs, but to use 32bit device drivers you need a 32bit kernel
[01:37] <archer> yofel,  please refer to ati driver release note
[01:37] <yofel> archer: and where do I find that note? (I don't know much about ati)
[01:37] <archer> ..
[01:37] <archer> it is said ... need to compile it with 32 kernal for 64 bits system or so
[01:38] <yofel> assumed it worked the same as the nvidia ones, and they have seperate 32 and 64 bit drivers
[01:38] <archer> yeah. that is why nv is more friendly
[01:38] <archer> but you have no choice if you buy an amd notebook
[01:40] <archer> AMD-ATI they are from the same plant
[01:40] <archer> at least brand
[01:44] <archer> ati open source drive doesn't support opengl hadware accel.
[01:44] <archer> as a netbook it is for sure a pitty if you cannot install official property driver
[01:46]  * archer disconnects himself by rebooting the router --- is adoble wrapper really more laggy?
[01:52] <eboyjr> Has anyone noticed the the mouse cursor in 10.04 doesn't have the click point (i dont know the real name) at its tip? It's a few pixels down and it make precision not as good
[01:53] <archer> hot spot
[01:53] <eboyjr> Yes, lol
[01:53] <Tekno_> :DD
[01:54] <eboyjr> I know it's not a major issue but I want to bring it up for discussion
[01:54] <dereks> hello. recently on meekrat, my sound stopped working. i get the startup sound from GDM, but when i log in, sound does not work... anyone have any ideas where to look
[01:54] <archer> hum another ia32 issue
[01:57] <archer> dereks,  with my laptop, it is auto___ muted at logging-in
[01:57] <dereks> archer: nope, i have played with gnome, seems it should be playing
[01:58] <archer> sorry. is that to say you cannot make it un-muted?
[01:58] <dereks> it isn't muted
[01:59] <dereks> well, according to the preferences
[01:59] <archer> no clue
[02:00] <dereks> weird, just solved it by turning up in alsamixer
[02:01] <archer> haha almost muted
[02:04] <Blue1> yofel: yeah you can install 32 bit apps on 64 bit system
[02:04] <Blue1> yofel: force install
[02:04] <dereks> why would alsa have it muted?
[02:05] <dereks> the gui tools didn't...
[02:05] <Blue1> yofel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LightScribe
[02:05] <archer> Blue1, how to install adobe-flashplugin please
[02:06] <yofel> ah
[02:06] <Blue1> archer: you are using the squre whatever it's called from adobe?
[02:06] <archer> yes from its webpage
[02:06] <archer> ubuntu one is luanched but nothing in process
[02:07] <Blue1> archer: you are looking for the 64 bit flash correct?
[02:07] <archer> y
[02:08] <Blue1> archer: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
[02:08] <archer> will try
[02:08] <Blue1> archer: just untar it, I'll get the locations in a sec
[02:09] <Blue1> archer: this has the right locations:  (old article so ignore the alpha flash plugin, but locations are correct)  http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=161
[02:12] <archer> i am reading labs
[02:13] <Blue1> ?
[02:13] <archer> gnash has a server problem. with its cache managment and connection
[02:13] <Blue1> dunno what gnash is.
[02:14] <archer> firefox plugin
[02:15] <archer> is that possbile to make use of offical .so file?
[02:16] <yofel> archer: just follow the instructions, it will put the .so at the right place
[02:16] <archer> thanks reading
[02:22] <archer> good thanks
[03:38] <janakaclk> Is it true that gnome 3 wont come with 10.10?
[03:38] <zeroedout> uh, gnome 3 has been delayed till 2011 last I heard
[03:39] <kklimonda> indeed
[04:36] <bullgard4> When trying to open /proc/kcore for read mc warns: "nm: /proc/kcore: File format not recognized." What does »nm« stand for?
[04:38] <glebihan> bullgard4: nm lists symbols from object files, see "man nm" for details
[04:40] <bullgard4> glebihan: Ah! Excellent! I just read man nm. But is »nm« a acronym? What do the letters n and m stand for?
[04:42] <glebihan> bullgard4: not sure, but I'd say it stands for "nomenclature"
[04:42] <bullgard4> glebihan: I see. Thank you very much for your help.
[04:42] <glebihan> bullgard4: you're welcome
[05:52] <lucent> found serious data corruption with new firewire stack and an adapter I was using (previously without corruption) before
[05:52] <lucent> what to do about it?   anyone familiar with hunting firewire bugs happen to be watching here?
[05:54] <kklimonda> lucent: you will have more luck on #ubuntu-kernel probably, but in few hours.
[05:54] <lucent> oh, thank you for the advice then :)
[06:50] <volodya> I have "gg:foo" open up konqueror and I would like rekonq instead. Changing file associations for text/html, which used to work before, no longer works. Any ideas?
[07:00] <MTecknology> I can create an XFS partition just fine.. but then I can't mount it ... -_-    mount: unknown filesystem type 'xfs'
[07:03] <kklimonda> well, creating a partition requires only tools but to mount it you need a kernel module ;)
[07:04] <MTecknology> kklimonda: indeed... wrong kernel was being used... thanks :D
[07:31] <MTecknology> xfs is supposed to be really fast but less reliable, isn't it?
[07:31] <vega_> repos broken ? W: Failed to fetch http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/universe/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch
[07:32] <vega_> hmm, fi/se broken.. nl works
[07:32] <MTecknology> vega_: apt-get update
[07:32] <vega_> that doesn't fix broken repos
[07:32] <MTecknology> vega_: the package you're trying to download might have been updated
[07:33] <vega_> .. no, i'm just trying to run "apt-get update && apt-get -u dist-upgrade"
[07:33] <MTecknology> oh
[07:34] <MTecknology> I should have read that better..
[07:35] <vega_> nl.archive.ubuntu.com works ok, so guess it's just those two broken (fi/se)
[07:53] <DanaG> Say, how do I edit a bug's title?
[07:53] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/612591
[07:54] <DanaG> I need to tweak that wording: "Can't use physical middle button on touchpad"
[07:55] <lucent> part of updating the bug with a reply, I think
[07:55] <kklimonda> DanaG: there is a little, yellow icon next to the title
[07:55] <lucent> you might not have permission to do that, someone will
[07:56] <DanaG> ah, it is my own bug.  There's an exclamation-point icon next to description, but not next to title.
[07:57] <DanaG> That bug is a real showstopper... I just plain can't use the Maverick kernel as long as that bug is unfixed.
[07:57] <kklimonda> DanaG: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/612591/+edit
[07:58] <lucent> DanaG: mouse preferences not helpful?
[07:59] <DanaG> Nope.  It thinks I have a ClickPad.
[07:59] <DanaG> So it breaks my middle button, and makes it into a left button if my finger is on the left side of the pad, and a right button if my finger is on the right side.
[07:59] <DanaG> s/and a/or a/
[08:00] <DanaG> Tweaked description:
[08:01] <DanaG> [Maverick] Kernel treats touchpad's middle button as ClickPad
[08:01] <DanaG> Or remove brackets.. Maverick kernel...
[08:01] <kklimonda> DanaG: have you tried raising this issue with ubuntu-kernel guts?
[08:01] <kklimonda> guys*
[08:05] <DanaG> #ubuntu-kernel?
[08:13] <preecher> i dloaded the 10.10 beta--now my sound and video dont do right when i go to a youtube vid--it kinda like hangs and drags if that is understandable--anyway of fixin without havn to do a reinstall?
[08:14] <kklimonda> DanaG: yeah
[08:14] <DanaG> I've pasted the link there.
[08:19] <vinok> hi guys
[08:25] <preecher> can i go back to 10.4 lts from the 10.10 beta without havn to do a complete re-install?
[08:26] <kklimonda> no
[08:27] <preecher> any chance of changing pulse audio then to something else? my sound dont work right after i dloaded the beta
[08:29] <kklimonda> you can try disabling it, check google for steps to do that (it's something like echo "autospawn = no" >> ~/.pulse/client.conf && pulse -k but I'm writing it from my memory)
[08:29] <preecher> thanks
[08:32] <lucent> fried cheese for dinner, yum. waiting for some kernel inclined folks to make an appearance
[08:34] <TiK> preecher: don't use the beta?
[08:34] <preecher> ive done dloaded it
[08:35] <preecher> or should say "upgraded" to it
[08:35] <TiK> why
[08:36] <preecher> because i seen on the ubuntu page it was being offered so i went for it
[08:36] <TiK> pulseaudio or ubuntu 10.10?
[08:37] <preecher> the 10.10----i think the pulse came with it--something changed anyway because before my sound/video was working perfect but i suppose probs are to be expected on a beta
[08:38] <preecher> its just aggravating is all---i can do without youtube but i dont want to
[08:39] <preecher> and i really dont wanna do a complete reinstall either
[08:40] <TiK> prob have o modify the file in /etc/modprobe.d/also something
[08:40] <TiK> alsa
[08:41] <preecher> im lookn at the ubuntu forum now to see what i can find
[08:43] <kklimonda> preecher:  your i seem to be broken.. and o,w,n.. and few other letters (don't abbreviaiate words - doing that makes it harder for non-native speakers to read your statements)
[09:17] <TiK> fun
[09:36] <killer999> any application that support metalinks downloads in ubuntu?
[09:36] <kklimonda> metalinks?
[09:37] <killer999> ubuntu daily build metalink
[09:37] <killer999> from cdimage.com
[09:38] <jpds> Probably not.
[09:39] <killer999> ah....i thought metainks are like torrents and they can be opened with transmission
[09:39] <jpds> killer999: What would be the benefit?
[09:39] <killer999> i need a daily build torrent file
[09:39] <kklimonda> there isn't one
[09:40] <virtuald> killer999: you mean magnet links?
[09:41] <jpds> killer999: Who will be seeding an ISO image that's generated everyday?
[09:41] <archer> someone ?
[09:42] <killer999> uhm...i don't know.....are metalinks and megnet links are same....look at the metalink file, http://pastebin.com/mVs8X6BF
[09:43] <killer999> actuallu I am using chromium and it breaks long downloads....thats why i am looking for a torrent
[09:43] <glebihan> killer999: no metafiles and magnet links are not the same
[09:43] <kklimonda> killer999: use wget
[09:43] <kklimonda> or firefox
[09:43] <glebihan> killer999: where did you get this metafile from ?
[09:44] <killer999> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/maverick-desktop-i386.metalink
[09:44] <jpds> Wait; if you're downloading on a daily basis, why not use rsync or zsync?
[09:44] <killer999> how to use that...sorry I am a bit new to ubuntu
[09:45] <glebihan> killer999: it seems that the informations in this file are incorrect, the torrent link points to a file that does not exist
[09:46] <killer999> hmm....guess i will have to use use firefox
[09:46] <adv_> is there a tool that lets me setup which daemons i want to run on startup? with a current available list or smth?
[09:46] <glebihan> killer999: I'd suggest zsync
[09:47] <killer999> ok...I got the solution....i have added the download url to steadyflow download manager...it can pause and resume too...so no need for torrent
[09:53] <adv_> glebihan, what's the difference of zsync from rsync
[09:53] <adv_> ?
[09:55] <glebihan> adv_: zsync uses the rsync protocol, but zsync is designed for distribution, see http://zsync.moria.org.uk/ for details
[09:56] <adv_> glebihan, distribution? what do you mean
[09:57] <glebihan> adv_: zsync is intended to be used to distribute files from one server to many users, whereas rsync is originally intended to be used for synchronization
[09:57] <adv_> ah thanks
[09:57] <glebihan> adv_: you're welcome
[10:01] <archer> sleeping doesn't turn lcd backlight off. sleep/hibernate meets drm atom_bios_loop , drm atom_execute_table_lock error. any suggestion
[10:04] <adv_> how can i check what runlevel im currently in?
[10:07] <yofel> archer: can you file a bug against linux after following? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspendHibernateResume#Debugging%20Suspend
[10:08] <archer> excuse me. but i don't think it is any related, yofel
[10:08] <archer> since it is a drm err msg
[10:10] <howlymowly> hi poeple...  short question about kmail:  when I start kmail I always have to click on "inbox", so kamil connects to the imap-server and downloads the mail..  is there any way to do this automatically? best would be that i launch kamil and I am automatically in the specified inbox folder with downloaded mails...
[10:12] <archer> yofel,  how to post a feed a bug against that link?
[10:13] <adv_> how can i check what runlevel im currently in?
[10:14] <glebihan> adv_: when do you want to test that
[10:14] <glebihan> ?
[10:14] <adv_> glebihan, hm? now
[10:15] <yofel> adv_: run 'runlevel' without arguments, it will tell you which one you're running
[10:15] <adv_> N 2
[10:15] <yofel> not that upstart cares much about runlevels these days
[10:15] <adv_> does that mean runlevel 2?
[10:15] <glebihan> adv_: when the system is running, you're in runlevel 2
[10:15] <adv_> so 2 is default one?
[10:15] <glebihan> adv_: yes
[10:15] <adv_> thanks
[10:16] <yofel> archer: ok, could be a libdrm bug indeed, I suggested linux as the kernel apport hook gathers most information about your system. And what do you meen by 'feed bug' ?
[10:16] <archer> haha. file it
[10:17] <yofel> archer: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[10:17] <archer> the case is, after xorg is closed or at least log of xorg is no longer recorded, no more information could be gathered by apport
[10:19] <archer> i think the action of auto shutdown is to protect the unit from overheating from dead loop
[10:20] <yofel> hm..
[10:20] <archer> so, yofel. how can i file this bug? no more info avail
[10:22] <yofel> archer: that's pretty much what I know about suspend debugging, maybe the others in #ubuntu-bugs know more
[10:22] <archer> ty . trying that channel
[10:28] <archer> yofel,  that channel is XXXXXXX quiet
[10:29] <yofel> well, I'm not sure what you're used to, but I don't call a channel quiet until there hasn't been at least 3h of inactivity
[10:29] <yofel> it's not like there's an official staff looking just at the channel all the time
[10:30] <yofel> somebody will answer you once they see your message
[10:30] <archer> i could not be there for over 2 hrs
[10:34] <archer> usually we expect some response in 30 min
[10:47] <AlanBell> hi all, anyone having issues with the size of the evolution preferences window?
[10:48] <AlanBell> for me it won't go smaller than 690x780 thus won't fit on a 768 tall screen
[10:51] <vish> AlanBell: its a known issue..
[10:51] <vega_> AlanBell: yes known issue, somebody reported it also few days ago...
[10:52] <AlanBell> ok, evolution really needs to sort itself out with resizable stuff
[10:54] <vish> AlanBell: not sure when that would change , its been around since 2005 ;)  » Bug #23810
[10:55] <AlanBell> yeah, there are a load of bugs like that, especially when the 1024x600 screen was popular
[10:55] <vish> since 2004 in bgo …
[10:55]  * AlanBell is checking out the bzr source of evolution to fix the damn problem
[10:57] <AlanBell> is there a way to check out just the current revision, so far I have 383MB of stuff in the .bzr directory and no sign of the current code yet
[11:03] <archer> AlanBell, there is alt key in the keyboard
[11:03] <AlanBell> archer: what do you mean?
[11:03] <archer> press alt and drag the window. will it help
[11:04] <AlanBell> archer: not if you have y constrain in compiz enabled as is the default
[11:04] <AlanBell> anyhow, I don't have a problem, I have a 2048x1152 monitor, the point is that the code is broken
[11:53] <AlanBell> got a bug number for the evolution preferences window?
[11:53] <AlanBell> the problem is the email preferences-general preferences tab has so much crud on it that it pushes out the minimum size of the window
[11:54] <AlanBell> so that needs a scrollbox outside it, which I think needs to be added around line 530 of widgets/misc/e-preferences-window.c
[13:08] <tukadafoonday> so guys, just downloaded and tried to install Ubuntu 10.10 and when it tried to start the Xserver the video obviously hung and locked the whole system up and therefore i was unable to carry out my installation.
[13:08] <tukadafoonday> So instead i had to install 10.04.
[13:29] <gratz|work> With Hal now deprecated (at least it seems to be.. no longer appearing in d-feet on Ubuntu 10.10 beta - meerkat), what is the best way to programmatically detect device inserts for things like usb devices? Before I could watch for a 'DeviceAdded' signal on Hal.Manager..
[13:31] <archer> yofel,  3 hrs already
[13:31] <archer> it is as quiet as the tomb . I have to walk my dog
[13:32] <yofel> ok, it *is* unusually quiet today.. everyone's busy I guess
[13:33] <bjsnider> gratz|work, you're always going to see something in dmesg
[13:38] <ectospasm> I installed 2.6.35-19 on Lucid (see launchpad bug #131094), and now I get a bunch of kernel errors regarding AppArmor userspace utilities needing to be upgraded.  Will I be fighting a neverending battle, fixing each little issue, until I upgrade to Maverick?
[13:40] <gratz|work> bjsnider, was hoping for a nicer way
[13:40] <gratz|work> there's udev i guess
[13:44] <bjsnider> i'm not sure you're going to get an answer in this channel. you need to talk to an ubuntu hacker, and they just don't live here
[13:45] <jared> can anyone help me with terminal crashing in xubuntu maverick?
[13:55] <gratz|work> sorted it, udev :) thx all / bjsnider
[13:58] <glaucous> I'm looking for the Ubuntu 10.10 repository, I'm not officially using Ubuntu 10.10 (sitting on backports). Apparently the .10 repository has the latest Catalyst/AMD/ATI fglrx drivers which I need for Xorg 1.9. Somehow I can't find the repo
[14:06] <rye> Is there any bug report regarding  Alt+PrintScreen not working in Maverick?
[14:07] <rye> i mean is there anybody else suffering from this
[14:18] <BajK> nice :) They finally fixed the start splash in 10.10, now it says "Kubuntu"
[14:28] <blue_anna> I got this error this morning runniing the update manager: http://nopaste.dk/p2476
[14:29] <blue_anna> well I ran it again from the cl after the update manager failed
[14:29] <BajK> blue_anna: did you try update? sudo apt-get update
[14:29] <BajK> to refresh package list and might fix broken urls
[14:29] <blue_anna> yes
[14:29] <blue_anna> I did that first, but the results were not unusual so I didnt include them
[14:35] <yofel> blue_anna: can you try to run 'sudo dpkg --purge --force-depends python-virtkey' and try to install it again after that?
[14:35] <blue_anna> BajK, there is no broken url
[14:35] <BajK> ah right, did not read properly ;)
[14:36] <blue_anna> how do I get info on a package?
[14:36] <blue_anna> onboard requires python-virtkey
[14:37] <blue_anna> but I dont know what that is
[14:37] <yofel> apt-cache show $packagename
[14:37] <blue_anna> yofel, thank you
[14:37] <blue_anna> oo I dont need that
[14:38] <yofel> ok, python-virtkey just failed to upgrade here too :(
[14:40] <blue_anna> for my use -- its cool because I know I dont need the onboard package. thank you, the purge fixes my issue
[14:40] <yofel> already reported as bug 648695
[14:41] <JAMD456> I got an odd error using the Update Manager, something about the Package updater failing
[14:43] <yofel> JAMD456: open a terminal and run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' and tell me what package failed
[14:43] <JAMD456> python-virtkey
[14:43] <JAMD456>  onboard
[14:43] <yofel> ok, that's bug 648695
[14:46] <JAMD456> Why is the error "Critical"?
[14:47] <Pici> Because that package is part of ubuntu-desktop.
[14:53] <bilalakhtar> On my maverick system, update of package python-virtkey is failing because of the absense of a .egg file. Anyone else facing the same problem?
[14:53] <yofel> bug 648695
[14:54] <bilalakhtar> Thanks yofel !
[14:56] <mikebeecham> hi guys....I have a disturbing no boot-up after running update manager
[14:56] <mikebeecham> every time I try to boot, I get as far as "all: disconnected from Plymouth"
[14:56] <mikebeecham> and nothing else
[14:57] <mikebeecham> can anyone help me get back to a working desktop?
[14:57] <bilalakhtar> mikebeecham: Once you get it, press Ctrl+Alt+F2 and log in with your credentials and type startx in the command line that comes
[14:57] <bilalakhtar> and tell us if that works
[14:57] <mikebeecham> fatal server error
[14:57] <mikebeecham> no screens found
[14:58] <bilalakhtar> hmm
[14:58] <mikebeecham> ddxSigGiveUp
[14:58] <mikebeecham> closing log
[14:58] <mikebeecham> just tried a second time
[14:58] <mikebeecham> same thing
[14:58] <bilalakhtar> hmm
[14:59] <bilalakhtar> I cannot help then
[14:59] <mikebeecham> mind you...it was a HUGE list of update
[14:59] <bilalakhtar> sorry
[14:59] <mikebeecham> can anyone else help?
[14:59] <bilalakhtar> Anyone here who can help mikebeecham ?
[14:59] <mikebeecham> unable to connect to X server
[14:59] <mikebeecham> No such process (errno 3): Server error
[15:00] <yofel> mikebeecham: can you pastebin you /var/log/Xorg.0.log? (using pastebinit)
[15:01] <mikebeecham> yofel, you might need to guide me, I've only ever pastebinned, through desktop
[15:01] <yofel> !pastebinit
[15:01] <yofel> well, just run 'sudo apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log'
[15:01] <mikebeecham> installing it
[15:02] <mikebeecham> http://pastebin.com/EqEjDMtP
[15:02] <mikebeecham> thanks so much for your help guys
[15:03] <yofel> does 'lsmod | grep nvidia' show something?
[15:04] <mikebeecham> nvidia    9327267   0
[15:04] <mikebeecham> agpgart   32011    2    nvidia,via_agp
[15:04] <yofel> ok... are you using gnome, kde, xfce, lxde..?
[15:04] <mikebeecham> gnome sir
[15:05] <yofel> then try to restart gdm, sudo service gdm restart
[15:05] <mikebeecham> gdm start/running, process 1686
[15:06] <mikebeecham> if I do it again, I get a different number...this time 1715
[15:06] <yofel> yeah, and x still doesn't come up?
[15:06] <mikebeecham> nope...I remain in ttyl
[15:07] <yofel> switching to tty7 or 8 gives you a black screen?
[15:07] <mikebeecham> sorry, how?
[15:07] <yofel> ctrl+alt+f7 / f8
[15:07] <mikebeecham> ahhh ok
[15:07] <mikebeecham> well, f8 does nothing
[15:07] <mikebeecham> f7....
[15:08] <mikebeecham> it's trying to mount my cifs shares at the momebnt, but has terminated the first two with status 32
[15:08] <mikebeecham> now all I have is a blinking cursor
[15:09] <mikebeecham> still blinking
[15:09] <yofel> odd.. go  back to tty2 and reinstall the nvidia driver
[15:09] <mikebeecham> sorry mate...how?
[15:09] <mikebeecham> sudo apt-get install nvidia-common?
[15:09] <popey> nvidia-current
[15:09] <yofel> sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current && sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[15:10] <mikebeecham> ok...removing now
[15:11] <mikebeecham> i wonder if it has anything to do with the nvidia beta drivers I installed recently?  I installed them as I experienced nvidia lag since upgrading to maverick
[15:11] <yofel> errrr
[15:11] <mikebeecham> anyway, it's installing current drivers at the moment
[15:11] <yofel> you didn't by chance use the drivers from the nvidia site?
[15:11] <mikebeecham> yessir
[15:11] <yofel> the .run
[15:11] <mikebeecham> yessir
[15:11] <yofel> OUCH
[15:11] <mikebeecham> *feels shame coming on*
[15:12] <mikebeecham> you should probably slap me about now, huh?
[15:12] <yofel> no, you can use them if you know what you're doing, but they don't play well with our package management and updating process
[15:12] <mikebeecham> ahhh ok
[15:12] <yofel> mikebeecham: remove the nvidia-current package and install the .run file again
[15:13] <mikebeecham> normally I stick with what Ubuntu serves up....however I noticed the lag that was documented on OMG Ubuntu
[15:13] <mikebeecham> well let me get back to a desktop first before I dice with desktop death again :D
[15:13] <wzssyqa> is ubiquity-frontend-gtk broken?
[15:14] <mikebeecham> almost there yofel
[15:14] <mikebeecham> and again...thanks for your time
[15:15] <yofel> mikebeecham: about beta drivers: there is 260.19.06 in the x-updates ppa https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates/
[15:15] <mikebeecham> to be honest, I'm not sure I even kept the .run drivers
[15:15] <mikebeecham> unpacking drivers
[15:16] <mikebeecham> depmod...
[15:16] <mikebeecham> right...back to cursor
[15:16] <mikebeecham> what now mate?
[15:16] <yofel> reboot
[15:16] <mikebeecham> ok...sec
[15:16] <mikebeecham> rebooting
[15:17] <mikebeecham> hopefully, Ill get past plymouth this time
[15:17] <mikebeecham> goodne4ss I hate plymouth...it dont even look right
[15:18] <mikebeecham> nope...back to ttyl
[15:18] <mikebeecham> Ubuntu Maverick (development branch)
[15:18] <mikebeecham> tty1
[15:19] <mikebeecham> i'm trying tty7
[15:19] <mikebeecham> starting winbind maemon winbind
[15:19] <mikebeecham> daemon**
[15:19] <mikebeecham> nothing but flashing cursor
[15:19] <yofel> *sigh*
[15:19] <yofel> what does your Xorg.0.log say this time? same error?
[15:20] <mikebeecham> will pastebin it
[15:20] <mikebeecham> hmmm
[15:20] <mikebeecham> above my login on tty1
[15:21] <mikebeecham> Your CPU appears to be lacking expected security protections.  Please check your bios settings
[15:21] <mikebeecham> and my pastebin:
[15:21] <mikebeecham> http://pastebin.com/1KkvjVW7
[15:22] <blue_anna> Im debugging a xwindows internals problem on my machine too, what is yours? is there a launcpad ticket?
[15:22] <mikebeecham> blue_anna:  me?
[15:22] <blue_anna> its you who cant start x right?
[15:22] <mikebeecham> yeah
[15:23] <mikebeecham> thats right....carried out an Update Manager update
[15:23] <mikebeecham> rebooted and BAM
[15:23] <mikebeecham> no X
[15:23] <yofel> mikebeecham: ok, now the driver is there, but can't be loaded... can you run 'dmesg | tail -n 100 | pastebinit' ?
[15:23] <mikebeecham> ok sec
[15:24] <brobostigon> afternoonings
[15:24] <blue_anna> after a fresh upgrade I had no X .. I had to remove my old /etc/X11/xorg.conf file .. and then I found it was using the fbdev driver instead of the one for nvidia
[15:24] <mikebeecham> http://pastebin.com/r9KFvh0M
[15:24] <yofel> right, nvidia needs xorg.conf - the proprietary driver at least
[15:24] <mikebeecham> blue_anna: well I have a very nicce gentlemain helping me since I'm a compelte OAF in this area
[15:25] <brobostigon> when i apt-get upgraded earlier, i am getting dpkg errors with python-virtkey and onboard,is this already known ?
[15:25] <yofel> brobostigon: see topic
[15:25] <blue_anna> mikebeecham, yes I see :) Iḿ listening for hints for myself too ;)
[15:25] <mikebeecham> :D
[15:25] <brobostigon> yofel: i wasnt concentrating, sorry, thank you.
[15:25] <blue_anna> brobostigon, I just hit that this morning. I just uninstalled onboard .. do you need it?
[15:26] <brobostigon> blue_anna: onscreen keyboard, no,
[15:27] <yofel> mikebeecham: ok... what I suspect what happened: you installed the .run, UM updated some Xorg files owerwriting some of the nvidia installed ones, now you have installed the nvidia-current package providing some of them again, but the module is from the beta package. And trying to mix 2 different nvidia driver versions doesn't work
[15:27] <mikebeecham> ok, makes sense mate
[15:28] <yofel> easiest way would be you remove nvidia-current again, fetch the .run and install that again
[15:28] <mikebeecham> notably cause I was trying to be cleverer than I actually am!
[15:28] <yofel> recovering a system after having an nvidia.run installed ones isn't too easy
[15:28] <mikebeecham> ok, but how would I get the .run if I cant get to the nivida website
[15:28] <yofel> or... hm
[15:29] <mikebeecham> yup?
[15:29] <bourbon> i like color hues of ATI card better than nvidia
[15:29] <bjsnider> use the .run with --uninstall
[15:30] <mikebeecham> bjsnider: now you're going way past my experience level :(
[15:30] <yofel> mikebeecham: well.. either download the file on another pc and use an usb drive to copy it or use a terminal browser like lynx
[15:30] <TiK> hi
[15:30] <mikebeecham> well I can do the first thing
[15:30] <blue_anna> if anyone knows how the xinput methods work I am having a keyboard issue
[15:31] <bjsnider> mikebeecham, pardon me, but you used the .run once already, correct? just add --uninstall at the end of it this time
[15:31] <blue_anna> the keyobard mostly doesnt work, is the issue. if I replug it in, it works in xfce, but not in gnome. xev shows the keyboard is physically working, its a software issue.
[15:31] <blue_anna> in gnome, changing the input manager (for example, from None to ibus) makes the keyboard function for a tiny length of time .. but one-two seconds later it will stop working again.
[15:31] <brobostigon> ok, thanks guys and gals. bye.
[15:31] <mikebeecham> bjsnider: hi mate...I dont have the file anymore....can I just type in the command anyway?
[15:32] <blue_anna> I can keep changing the input manager. but that kinda sucks :P
[15:33] <mikebeecham> bjsnider: it just told me that it cant open that file
[15:33] <mikebeecham> I guess because I dont have it
[15:36] <mikebeecham> yofel: I'm downloading them now
[15:36] <yofel> mikebeecham: you'll need the file first, best you use the .run with --uninstall and install the beta driver from the x-update ppa after that
[15:36] <mikebeecham> ok
[15:37] <mikebeecham> how will I access the pen drive?  is there a particular drive label it will assign?
[15:38] <TiK> no you have to set a label with gparter
[15:38] <yofel> no, once you plug it in, run 'dmesg' and it will show as what the drive was added, you'll need the entry with the number like /dev/sdb1, after that run 'sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt' and you can access the driver from /mnt
[15:39] <blue_anna> or cehck in /media after it mounts
[15:39] <yofel> s/driver/drive/
[15:39] <TiK> one plugged it it will automount an be in /media
[15:39] <yofel> erm, folks, auto-mount only works if you have a desktop environment running...
[15:39] <TiK> i didnt read the question ;)
[15:40] <yofel> TiK: he needs to mount the drive in tty as he can't start X
[15:41] <blue_anna> ok, I get it. plug it in and scan lsusb -v .. kind of a pain in the neck but you might find the /dev device there I guess
[15:41] <blue_anna> then you can mount that with the mount command and a spare directory :P
[15:42] <TiK> usb drive?
[15:42] <blue_anna> yea he said pendrive
[15:43] <TiK> you woud hve to know what it is in /dev
[15:43] <yofel> well, lsusb -v is a bit overkill, as the kernel will print a device add message in the kernel log with the drive name
[15:43] <blue_anna> I guess dmesg would be easier
[15:43] <rye> sudo fdisk -l
[15:43] <TiK> mine is /dev/sdb1
[15:43] <rye> blue_anna, ^ will show what disk devices kernel sees
[15:43] <yofel> right, fdisk would be good too
[15:44] <blue_anna> so mkdir ~/pen && mount /dev/sdb1 ~/pen
[15:44] <yofel> erm, why not just use /mnt ?
[15:44] <TiK> so mount -t fat32 /dev/sdb1 /usb
[15:44] <yofel> that's what the folder is there for after all
[15:44] <TiK> doesn't matter
[15:45] <yofel> well true
[15:45] <TiK> less typing
[15:45] <blue_anna> TiK, looks like a plan :)
[15:51] <mikebeecham> getting there
[15:51] <mikebeecham> still downloaduing drivers
[15:51] <mikebeecham> yofel: will be right with you :)
[15:52] <halvors> I get an apt error i have tryed "dpkg --configure -a" but it does not work: http://pastebin.com/AJn3S0Y9
[15:53] <Pici> halvors: I mentioned to look at the topic for a reason.  ( https://launchpad.net/bugs/648695
[15:57] <mikebeecham> right, I've mounted /dev/sdb1
[15:57] <mikebeecham> how to I get onto that mount?
[15:57] <yofel> mikebeecham: cd /mng
[15:57] <yofel> cd /mnt
[15:57] <mikebeecham> cool
[15:57] <yofel> (if that's where you mounted it)
[15:58] <mikebeecham> right
[15:58] <yofel> for future reference, read this ;)
[15:58] <yofel> !cli
[15:58] <mikebeecham> right
[15:59] <mikebeecham> tried to uninstall...got a lot of errors, but I'm now back to my cursor
[15:59] <mikebeecham> is it worth trying to install the current drivers?
[15:59] <yofel> well, try it, if the .run is properly removed it should work now
[16:00] <mikebeecham> installing now
[16:00] <mikebeecham> if this does not work...is there a way to completely purge all video drviers and reinstall from scratch?
[16:02] <mikebeecham> yay!
[16:02] <mikebeecham> yofel
[16:02] <mikebeecham> you're a star mate
[16:02] <mikebeecham> i'm back onto my desktop
[16:03]  * yofel just had his experince with nvidia .run files some 3 years ago...
[16:03] <yofel> ahh, the memories/nightmares...
[16:03] <mikebeecham> lol
[16:03] <mikebeecham> tell you what...let's not go down thatr oute again
[16:03] <mikebeecham> however, I wonder if I'm going to experience the lag issues now that I'm back onto current drivers?
[16:04] <mikebeecham> which started this whole debarcle off to begin with
[16:04] <yofel> well, possibly, you can install the packaged beta driver from the x-update ppa, just add the ppa and update
[16:04] <yofel> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates/
[16:04] <mikebeecham> what is the difference between the packaged beta and the .run?
[16:05] <yofel> the packaged beta doesn't destroy your system :P
[16:05] <mikebeecham> hehe
[16:05] <mikebeecham> fair play
[16:05] <yofel> well, it's installed in a way that makes it not mess with the other system files
[16:06] <mikebeecham> whereas nvidia just runs riot like a fat kid in a cake shop?
[16:06] <bjsnider> nvidia does not even recommend using its own installer. there's a sticky post on their forums where they're telling people to use the distribution installer instead
[16:06]  * gnomefreak went away for ~1 week and i have 290 upgraded apps
[16:07] <gnomefreak> sory 190
[16:07] <bjsnider> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=72490
[16:08] <mikebeecham> yofel: I cant thank you enough sir
[16:08] <mikebeecham> one beer or two?
[16:09] <yofel> give me one, you take the other one ;)
[16:09] <mikebeecham> we can chink our bottles together, watching the sun go do.....oh no, thats brokeback mountain.  I'll post it to you
[16:10] <mikebeecham> holy schmoley....85 updates to download
[16:11] <gnomefreak> only 85
[16:11] <mikebeecham> today
[16:11] <mikebeecham> updating cache is taking a scary amount of 'waiting' time
[16:11] <gnomefreak> oh
[16:11] <mikebeecham> i need a shower...brb
[16:12] <gnomefreak> e17 still not respun
[16:13]  * gnomefreak not going to have time before release
[16:13] <gnomefreak> :(
[16:13] <notlistening>  Hi just used the 10.10 live daily build or tired and ubiqity hung at the country selection page this been reported?
[16:14] <gnomefreak> not sure you would have to sift through them, if no one knows
[16:14] <gnomefreak> am i here?
[16:16] <gnomefreak> looks like i am
[16:16] <yofel> respun?
[16:17] <charlie-tca> gnomefreak: yes, you are here
[16:18] <notlistening> Amazing this is going out in three days :D
[16:18] <gnomefreak> charlie-tca: thanks
[16:18] <Pici> notlistening: 10.10 doesn't release until the 10th of October.
[16:18] <gnomefreak> yofel: re spin with current depends
[16:19] <gnomefreak> RC is out thursday
[16:20] <gnomefreak> as late as monday but schedule thurs
[16:22] <i_is_broke> anyone else having issues with updating?
[16:22] <i_is_broke> im getting a python error.
[16:22] <i_is_broke> virtkey
[16:22] <Daekdroom> I am.
[16:22] <gnomefreak> not here yet
[16:22] <i_is_broke> ok as long as its just not me..lol
[16:22] <gnomefreak> but i am still updating
[16:22] <yofel> see topic...
[16:22] <Daekdroom> Yes, we know
[16:23] <i_is_broke> lol
[16:23] <i_is_broke> seen
[16:24] <i_is_broke> yofel, well if they know its a issue, do they have a work around for it?
[16:24] <yofel> i_is_broke: there is a workaround on the bug
[16:24] <i_is_broke> tried it, it felled.
[16:24] <i_is_broke> with a big F
[16:24] <yofel> really? let me try
[16:24] <Pici> Why does there need to be a workaround?
[16:24] <i_is_broke> ill try again and see if it works.
[16:25] <i_is_broke> pici, cause it wont let me update.
[16:25] <yofel> wfm
[16:26] <gnomefreak> well im updating but not yet installing updates
[16:27] <i_is_broke> gnomefreak: thats when it broke on me, is the install part.
[16:29] <charlie-tca> It will break
[16:29]  * gnomefreak has no doubt
[16:29] <charlie-tca> Well, at least it will give you a crash
[16:30] <gnomefreak> something always breaks for me ;)
[16:30] <yofel> hm, e17 is a problem, as it doesn't build with current libecore :S
[16:30] <gnomefreak> yofel: yeap i already filed bug
[16:30] <gnomefreak> weeks ago
[16:32] <gnomefreak> yofel: see bug 613271
[16:32] <yofel> hm, would need a FFE now, but since it's in universe and not seeded should be possible
[16:32] <yofel> let's see if the debian package builds fine
[16:32] <gnomefreak> be back smoke
[16:44] <bullgard4>  /etc/mc/filehighlight.ini seems to define and list those file categories that mc displays in different colors. What file determines what color mc actually uses? ~/.mc/filehighlight.ini does not exist.
[16:48] <mikebeecham> yofel: back, and all running great!!
[16:48] <yofel> good to hear :)
[16:50] <mikebeecham> :D
[17:01] <charlie-tca> notlistening: The latest desktop cd for Ubuntu Maverick installs without errors
[18:22] <dylan_> Accidently deleted the Networking Applet from my panel, can't get it back, deleted and reinstalled, and still can't find it to get it on the panel...
[18:22] <dylan_> help?
[18:26] <dylan_> Nevermind.
[19:30] <dylan_> Ok, so on the main panel, the Messages applet disappeared, and now Empathy has it's own applet. And the messages one is nowhere to be found.
[19:31] <dylan_> Anybody know how to bring the messages applet back?
[19:32] <ChogyDan1> !panelreset
[19:32] <dylan_> this won't effect a Cairo Dock will it?
[19:33] <dylan_> Worked. Cairo came right back. thanks.
[19:51] <Acidphase> hey uh, not sure if someone can help me with this but I cant seem to get sound in either UT or UT2004 ,  2.6.35-22-generic #33-Ubuntu
[19:51] <Acidphase> (64bit)
[19:52] <gverig> Running ubuntu 10.10, in tomboy notes, the panel plugin- note titles are invisible (I see note icons and can opten them but can't see the text title). Worked fine on Friday. Any thoughts?
[19:54] <charlie-tca> gverig: bug filed
[19:54] <charlie-tca> bug 627744
[19:56] <gverig> charlie-tca: thanks!! I did look at launchpad... not good enough apparently :)
[19:56] <charlie-tca> no problem
[19:57] <charlie-tca> bugs are hard to find, sometimes.
[20:10] <Israphel> I need to change permission to a file
[20:11] <Israphel> to restore the read permission
[20:11] <Israphel> I removed it 'cause it was a workaround for the ia32-libs recent bugggg
[20:11] <Israphel> bug*
[20:38] <halvors> How fix this bug on my PC?
[20:38] <halvors> https://launchpad.net/bugs/648695
[20:59] <killer999> kubuntu 10.10 installer crashes in virtualbox....is there a cli or any other method to install??
[21:07] <charlie-tca> Try the alternate image?
[21:34] <BUGabundo> evening
[21:43] <GA_Bull> !panelreset
[21:44] <GA_Bull> Well. I reseted my panel, and Network Manager's applet is still missing.........
[21:45] <glebihan> GA_Bull: launch "nm-applet"
[21:46] <GA_Bull> got this response
[21:46] <GA_Bull> An instance of nm-applet is already running.
[21:46] <GA_Bull> ** (nm-applet:2518): WARNING **: <WARN>  constructor(): Couldn't initialize the D-Bus manager.
[21:47] <glebihan> GA_Bull: trying killing the running nm-applet and start it again
[21:49] <GA_Bull> killed it, and brought it back, and got this response
[21:49] <GA_Bull> dylan@Dylan-Ubuntu:~$ nm-applet
[21:49] <GA_Bull> ** Message: applet now removed from the notification area
[21:49] <GA_Bull> ** (nm-applet:2631): DEBUG: old state indicates that this was not a disconnect 0
[21:50] <GA_Bull> i'm going to try to kill it a second time. and see if it works.
[21:56] <GA_Bull> ok, back, now i'm going to try to kill it and bring it back....
[21:56] <glebihan> ok
[21:58] <GA_Bull> can't even get it to let me kill it now... still getting the first message...
[21:58] <GA_Bull> dylan@Dylan-Ubuntu:~$ nm-applet
[21:58] <GA_Bull> ** Message: applet now removed from the notification area
[21:58] <GA_Bull> ** (nm-applet:4577): DEBUG: old state indicates that this was not a disconnect 0
[21:59] <glebihan> GA_Bull: do you get to launch nm-connection-editor ?
[22:00] <GA_Bull> i can try. one sec.
[22:00] <GA_Bull> yup, it runs just fine.
[22:01] <glebihan> GA_Bull: what you try is first killing nm-applet, then restart network-manager (sudo service network-manager restart) and then restart nm-applet
[22:01] <glebihan> what you *can* try
[22:02] <GA_Bull> ok. i'm still trying to get it to let me kill nm-applet again. it won'd pgrep it now.
[22:03] <glebihan> then it's probably not running
[22:04] <GA_Bull> ok, just tried the process you gave me... and i'm still getting the same message.
[22:06] <GA_Bull> dylan@Dylan-Ubuntu:~$ nm-applet
[22:06] <GA_Bull> ** Message: applet now removed from the notification area
[22:06] <GA_Bull> ** (nm-applet:4806): DEBUG: old state indicates that this was not a disconnect 0
[22:09] <GA_Bull> running it as sudo doesn't work either.
[22:10] <glebihan> GA_Bull: I think it's a known bug
[22:10] <glebihan> bug 589362
[22:10] <GA_Bull> ok,
[22:10] <GA_Bull> hadn't checked that. doh.
[22:11] <GA_Bull> well. I can live without it for a while. I can still connect to networks.
[22:18] <GA_Bull> i'm going to try one more panel reset.
[22:18] <GA_Bull> !panelreset
[22:18] <GA_Bull> and now gnome-power-manager crashed.
[22:18] <GA_Bull> ok, it's back.
[22:49] <iConfused> http://demandprogress.org/blacklist/?source=bb < Help stop internet censorship in the US GOGOGO D:
[22:50] <notlistening> I have just installed the latest 10.10 build and updates are broken any clues...?
[22:50] <uvacav> anyone have any issues with wireless running really slow on 10.10 beta rls? Im getting updates at 10kb/sec.
[22:50] <ChogyDan> notlistening: do you get an error?
[22:51] <notlistening> yeah two i will just get the laptop and it is when i run apt-get update
[22:51] <killer999_> i am getting an strange error after today's update : E: python-virtkey: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[22:51] <killer999_> E: onboard: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[22:52] <duffydack> killer999_,  I had that.  I just removed it
[22:52] <killer999_> is this related to virtualbox?
[22:52] <ChogyDan> killer999_: see /topic
[22:52] <duffydack> I dont use onboard so I figured, why not
[22:52] <killer999_> uhm...what should i remove?
[22:53] <duffydack> I removed both onboard and python-virtkey, but thats upto you if you want to.
[22:53] <duffydack> or wait for a fix..
[22:55] <notlistening> ChogyDan, seems like it is unable to talk to some repositories for updates
[22:56] <notlistening> also getting problems with internet traffic
[22:56] <uvacav> killer999 i had the same problem
[22:56] <notlistening> connected directly into the hub of my router
[22:56] <killer999_> so removing is the only solution as of now as this happens with every app I install??
[22:57] <uvacav> notlistening: same problems i am having
[22:57] <ChogyDan> killer999_: just wait a bit, the update is coming soon
[22:57] <uvacav> notlistening: although mine is over wireless
[22:57] <notlistening> uvacav, it is a networking issue or...?
[22:57] <killer999_> uvacav, if you mean today itself, then I can wait
[22:58] <notlistening> uvacav, I also had problems initally running update
[22:58] <uvacav> killer999_ : that was choggydan who said to wait
[22:58] <killer999_> oops
[22:58] <killer999_> ma bad
[22:58] <notlistening> uvacav, seems that it is not my network card then...?
[22:58] <killer999_> ChogyDan,  if you mean today itself, then I can wait
[22:58] <uvacav> notlistening: all i know is i just installed  the beta rls (not daily rls), and my connection is really slow AND i cant update
[22:58] <notlistening> uvacav, went back and installed the beta as the daily build kept hanging
[22:59] <yofel> the python-virtkey bug is fixed, you just have to wait until the fix has made it to all mirrors
[22:59] <ChogyDan> killer999_: I just got it myself.
[22:59] <uvacav> notlistening: same exact thing i did
[22:59] <uvacav> notlistening: my updates are failing with "(-5 - No address associated with hostname)"
[23:00] <notlistening> uvacav what hardware is the wirless card?
[23:00] <killer999_> oh...BTW I have heard 'yofel' name somewhere else...
[23:00] <uvacav> notlistening: atheros, ar9285
[23:01] <yofel> killer999_: I tend to stray around a bit from time to time, so quite possible
[23:01] <notlistening> totally different, have you made any progress, it seems to hit some repositories and not others
[23:01] <killer999_> lol no i mean in some ppa package
[23:01] <killer999_> yofel, you maintain a ppa by any chance?
[23:01] <uvacav> notlistening: nope first thing i did is come here, i'll let u know if i figure something out.. out of curiosity what router are you using
[23:02] <yofel> killer999_: I have a few, see my LP page https://launchpad.net/~yofel
[23:02] <bjsnider> uvacav, there may be a better driver for that card in the backports-wireless package
[23:02] <bjsnider> it's ath9k in any event
[23:03] <uvacav> bjsnider: i'l check that out, thanks
[23:04] <notlistening> Thompson - TG585v7
[23:04] <bjsnider> i'm not sure if the kernel team has that package set up for maverick yet
[23:04] <bjsnider> !info linux-backports-wireless-generic maverick
[23:05] <uvacav> ah
[23:05] <notlistening> just a box supplied by my board band supplier
[23:05] <notlistening> I will go dig deeper
[23:05] <yofel> !info linux-backports-modules-wireless-maverick-generic
[23:06] <bjsnider> uvacav, install that and reboot
[23:07] <uvacav> notlistening: its not verizon fios is it? maybe some sort of ipv6 thing i dunno..
[23:07] <uvacav> bjsnider: i will try that, thanks
[23:07] <scummos> hi, is there kde 4.5.1 packages available for ubuntu 10.10?
[23:07] <scummos> or 4.5.x
[23:09] <yofel> scummos: maverick has 4.5.1
[23:11] <scummos> yofel: okay, cool
[23:11] <scummos> thanks
[23:11] <killer999_> yofel, uhm ok...now I know
[23:34] <Ian_corne> LP down?
[23:34] <scummos> anyone knows how to boot 10.10 using unetbootin? i currently get an "no init found" error
[23:35] <duffydack> gnome-terminal vanished.. and I get some error when trying to install it
[23:36] <yofel> Ian_corne: not here
[23:37] <Ian_corne> hrmf
[23:38] <notlistening> My problem with updating seems to be that apt can not resolve ubuntu.com
[23:38] <Ian_corne> I'm really not getting anything through
[23:38] <notlistening> I have tried UK server and Main Server
[23:38] <Ian_corne> Error reading https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~banshee-team/+archive/banshee-unstable: <urlopen error [Errno 110] Connection timed out>
[23:39] <notlistening> and ssh is no longer included on the CD..?
[23:39] <scummos> wtf
[23:39] <Ian_corne> ssh server never was preinstalled
[23:40] <Ian_corne> if that's what you're talking about
[23:40] <notlistening> not pre install but i can not access internet updates but i have forced it to use the sources on CD and no ssh..?
[23:46] <pegasusbill> yellow
[23:47] <pegasusbill> is the release v10.10 oct 1st?
[23:49] <Daekdroom> pegasusbill, October 10th
[23:51] <craig> I just installed the latest AMD64 Kubuntu 10.10 Beta 1: I'm having trouble installing kbluetooth: I just installed aptitude but it claims the package kbluetooth doesn't even exist.  Do I need to enable an extra Repo to get Kbluetooth?  Or how exactly do I get Kbluetooth installed...?
[23:53] <notlistening> Fixed the updating proglem ;)
[23:53] <notlistening> shame he has gone :P
[23:54] <notlistening> Have there been any other reports of the update issue..?
[23:54] <yofel> notlistening: you mean python-virtkey? that's fixed
[23:55] <notlistening> no apt not being able to resiolve ubuntu.com
[23:55] <yofel> that sounds like a DNS issue to me
[23:56] <notlistening> yeah i think it is but not with my DNS as all my other machines run normally
[23:56] <notlistening> ping works find
[23:56] <notlistening> but apt doesn't
[23:56] <yofel> craig: kbluetooth is deprecated, maverick uses bluedevil
[23:56] <notlistening> added ubuntu.com to /etc/hosts and hey presto it worked
[23:56] <yofel> that's odd..
[23:56] <notlistening> very