kklimonda | hey BUGabundo | 00:05 |
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BUGabundo | hey kklimonda | 00:08 |
BUGabundo | did you drop me on your JID list? | 00:08 |
kklimonda | BUGabundo: no | 00:08 |
kklimonda | BUGabundo: hmm, you don't get messages from me? | 00:09 |
kklimonda | oh, you did | 00:09 |
archer | hi repost my issue : amd 64 failed to hibernate or sleep with on screen message: drm atom_bios loop, drm atom_execute_table_locked. | 00:14 |
archer | it is a L310 cpu with ati 3200 HD. someone here? | 00:15 |
BUGabundo | some are | 00:16 |
archer | nice to hear that. | 00:16 |
archer | The error message was not recorded in any written log. And the unit finally comes to a shutdown. | 00:17 |
archer | i didn't not remember them all, but it appears that maverick meets a dead loop with bios and don't know how to deal with such operation request | 00:18 |
BUGabundo | archer: really??? | 00:21 |
shilow | has anyone solved the problem with dpkg-reconfigure and cron once i upgraded to 10.10 i haven't been able to run dpkg-reconfigure -a because it stops after it hits cron | 00:22 |
archer | yes. BUGabundo | 00:22 |
BUGabundo | why the whois ? | 00:22 |
BUGabundo | pff | 00:22 |
archer | ??? | 00:22 |
shilow | anyone? | 00:23 |
shilow | ive did the good ol google but i havent found any answers | 00:23 |
archer | shilow, I have no clue. | 00:23 |
archer | what is your local time, BUGabundo | 00:23 |
BUGabundo | GMT +1 | 00:24 |
jbroome | ah, KVM/apparmor wasn't happy with my .img files in a non-std location. put them back rebooted and VM started | 00:24 |
archer | today's update : ia32-libs (20090808ubuntu6) ... | 00:33 |
archer | g_module_open() failed for /usr/lib32/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-jasper.so: libjasper.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 00:33 |
kklimonda | ia32-libs strikes again | 00:35 |
mellhen | Hy @all | 00:35 |
mellhen | i would like to test the new ubuntu font in kubuntu | 00:36 |
mellhen | how can i do that? | 00:36 |
archer | yes it appears to ia32libs | 00:39 |
archer | launchpad bug board said it is already fixed . but update is not helpful yet | 00:40 |
Blue1 | seem to be having X issues with my nvidia card, known problem? | 00:58 |
jbroome | Blue1: did you re-reun the nvidia installer after a kernel upgrade? | 00:59 |
Blue1 | well I did ALL the upgrades, then apt-get the nividia-185 driver -- | 01:00 |
Blue1 | iow it worked in 10.04, but didn't in 10.10 -- in drivers were ever installed. | 01:00 |
Blue1 | fresh install btw, NOT upgrade | 01:01 |
archer | hum | 01:01 |
archer | ATI even worse. | 01:01 |
Blue1 | yes. | 01:02 |
archer | i give up anyhow | 01:02 |
yofel | Blue1: there is no 185 driver in lucid and maverick, in lucid it should pull in 195, in maverick I don't know | 01:02 |
yofel | the new nvidia package is nvidia-current | 01:03 |
bjsnider | there is a 185 driver package in maverick, but it's a dummy that pulls in nvidia-current | 01:03 |
archer | my hd3200 has been never correctly recognized by fglrx. | 01:03 |
bjsnider | people should be using jockey to instal it | 01:03 |
archer | noway | 01:03 |
archer | how to use jockey? | 01:03 |
archer | no such button or so | 01:04 |
Blue1 | i think I tryed jockey-gtk iirc | 01:04 |
archer | need to reboot. brb | 01:05 |
Blue1 | well it hauled in to drivers, I was surprised. | 01:05 |
archer | always. | 01:05 |
archer | you are already a worrier to use maverick | 01:06 |
Blue1 | hmm | 01:06 |
archer | the first reason to try maverick, was that lucid doesn't support my hardware | 01:10 |
archer | what will happen if i remove ia32-libs | 01:12 |
Quutar | wierd question... I run Ubuntu in VirtualBox... 10.04.1 works fine in it... but when i upgrade to 10.10 the video driver reverts back to 800x600 and the bidirectional clipboard goes away | 01:13 |
kklimonda | archer: there is a backported kernel from maverick for lucid | 01:13 |
Quutar | is there a new guestOS drivers setup for 10.10? | 01:14 |
archer | kklimonda, that is to say it is still some kind of kernal>? | 01:14 |
kklimonda | archer: ? | 01:14 |
archer | ia32 | 01:14 |
archer | is it safe to remove that ia32-lib ? | 01:15 |
kklimonda | archer: well, it's been a comment to your previous statement about running maverick because lucid doesn't support your hardware. | 01:15 |
kklimonda | archer: yeah, it is | 01:15 |
kklimonda | as long as you don't plan on running 32bit applications | 01:15 |
archer | hum.. | 01:15 |
archer | anonnyyyyinnnggg | 01:15 |
Blue1 | how about that - intalled a vanila xorg.conf and 10.10 came up. | 01:16 |
yofel | Blue1: if you installed nvidia without jockey you need to create a xorg.conf yourself, yes... | 01:16 |
archer | at least flash is 32bit, | 01:16 |
yofel | or run nvidia-xconfig for that matter | 01:16 |
kklimonda | archer: there is a 64bit flash available from adobe | 01:16 |
kklimonda | it works better here then the 32bit version | 01:17 |
archer | k | 01:17 |
archer | remove it | 01:17 |
Blue1 | kklimonda: yesh the 64 bit flash plugin works way way better then the 32 bit shoe horned version on 64 bit systems | 01:17 |
archer | but i am still afraid | 01:18 |
archer | that libsound32 is .. | 01:18 |
kklimonda | then don't use beta software | 01:18 |
kklimonda | what about it? | 01:18 |
archer | lib32sound2 is very important | 01:18 |
archer | for skype some player | 01:19 |
archer | who care, remove first | 01:19 |
archer | i hate to read error report | 01:19 |
kklimonda | what are you trying to accomplish? | 01:19 |
archer | avoid chain effect from ia32 | 01:20 |
kklimonda | why are you removing it? | 01:20 |
archer | errors | 01:22 |
kklimonda | oh, cool | 01:22 |
kklimonda | heh | 01:22 |
archer | launchpad error | 01:22 |
archer | incorrectly displaying some items | 01:22 |
kklimonda | I don't think how is it related to ia32-libs? | 01:23 |
archer | after a error on apt-get upgrade | 01:24 |
archer | yeap i don;'t believe it is even related | 01:25 |
archer | but after removal , all the desktop interface appears correct | 01:25 |
archer | since that error message was the only clue to me | 01:26 |
archer | you know | 01:27 |
archer | there are running tasks, date, time, im, power-off items on gnome | 01:27 |
archer | with that error message, date,time,power off are in a mess | 01:28 |
archer | i got it | 01:30 |
archer | that might explain why i cannot install ATI version display driver. | 01:31 |
archer | with ia32 in bugs itself, how can its 32bit driver program be reliable? and ati drop latest xorg | 01:31 |
archer | Blue1, | 01:36 |
yofel | erm, you can't install 32bit drivers on a 64bit system | 01:36 |
archer | is that true that adobe player is mroe laggy | 01:36 |
yofel | applications mights still work with ia32-libs, but to use 32bit device drivers you need a 32bit kernel | 01:36 |
archer | yofel, please refer to ati driver release note | 01:37 |
yofel | archer: and where do I find that note? (I don't know much about ati) | 01:37 |
archer | .. | 01:37 |
archer | it is said ... need to compile it with 32 kernal for 64 bits system or so | 01:37 |
yofel | assumed it worked the same as the nvidia ones, and they have seperate 32 and 64 bit drivers | 01:38 |
archer | yeah. that is why nv is more friendly | 01:38 |
archer | but you have no choice if you buy an amd notebook | 01:38 |
archer | AMD-ATI they are from the same plant | 01:40 |
archer | at least brand | 01:40 |
archer | ati open source drive doesn't support opengl hadware accel. | 01:44 |
archer | as a netbook it is for sure a pitty if you cannot install official property driver | 01:44 |
* archer disconnects himself by rebooting the router --- is adoble wrapper really more laggy? | 01:46 | |
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eboyjr | Has anyone noticed the the mouse cursor in 10.04 doesn't have the click point (i dont know the real name) at its tip? It's a few pixels down and it make precision not as good | 01:52 |
archer | hot spot | 01:53 |
eboyjr | Yes, lol | 01:53 |
Tekno_ | :DD | 01:53 |
eboyjr | I know it's not a major issue but I want to bring it up for discussion | 01:54 |
dereks | hello. recently on meekrat, my sound stopped working. i get the startup sound from GDM, but when i log in, sound does not work... anyone have any ideas where to look | 01:54 |
archer | hum another ia32 issue | 01:54 |
archer | dereks, with my laptop, it is auto___ muted at logging-in | 01:57 |
dereks | archer: nope, i have played with gnome, seems it should be playing | 01:57 |
archer | sorry. is that to say you cannot make it un-muted? | 01:58 |
dereks | it isn't muted | 01:58 |
dereks | well, according to the preferences | 01:59 |
archer | no clue | 01:59 |
dereks | weird, just solved it by turning up in alsamixer | 02:00 |
archer | haha almost muted | 02:01 |
Blue1 | yofel: yeah you can install 32 bit apps on 64 bit system | 02:04 |
Blue1 | yofel: force install | 02:04 |
dereks | why would alsa have it muted? | 02:04 |
dereks | the gui tools didn't... | 02:05 |
Blue1 | yofel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LightScribe | 02:05 |
archer | Blue1, how to install adobe-flashplugin please | 02:05 |
yofel | ah | 02:06 |
Blue1 | archer: you are using the squre whatever it's called from adobe? | 02:06 |
archer | yes from its webpage | 02:06 |
archer | ubuntu one is luanched but nothing in process | 02:06 |
Blue1 | archer: you are looking for the 64 bit flash correct? | 02:07 |
archer | y | 02:07 |
Blue1 | archer: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html | 02:08 |
archer | will try | 02:08 |
Blue1 | archer: just untar it, I'll get the locations in a sec | 02:08 |
Blue1 | archer: this has the right locations: (old article so ignore the alpha flash plugin, but locations are correct) http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=161 | 02:09 |
archer | i am reading labs | 02:12 |
Blue1 | ? | 02:13 |
archer | gnash has a server problem. with its cache managment and connection | 02:13 |
Blue1 | dunno what gnash is. | 02:13 |
archer | firefox plugin | 02:14 |
archer | is that possbile to make use of offical .so file? | 02:15 |
yofel | archer: just follow the instructions, it will put the .so at the right place | 02:16 |
archer | thanks reading | 02:16 |
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archer | good thanks | 02:22 |
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janakaclk | Is it true that gnome 3 wont come with 10.10? | 03:38 |
zeroedout | uh, gnome 3 has been delayed till 2011 last I heard | 03:38 |
kklimonda | indeed | 03:39 |
bullgard4 | When trying to open /proc/kcore for read mc warns: "nm: /proc/kcore: File format not recognized." What does »nm« stand for? | 04:36 |
glebihan | bullgard4: nm lists symbols from object files, see "man nm" for details | 04:38 |
bullgard4 | glebihan: Ah! Excellent! I just read man nm. But is »nm« a acronym? What do the letters n and m stand for? | 04:40 |
glebihan | bullgard4: not sure, but I'd say it stands for "nomenclature" | 04:42 |
bullgard4 | glebihan: I see. Thank you very much for your help. | 04:42 |
glebihan | bullgard4: you're welcome | 04:42 |
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lucent | found serious data corruption with new firewire stack and an adapter I was using (previously without corruption) before | 05:52 |
lucent | what to do about it? anyone familiar with hunting firewire bugs happen to be watching here? | 05:52 |
kklimonda | lucent: you will have more luck on #ubuntu-kernel probably, but in few hours. | 05:54 |
lucent | oh, thank you for the advice then :) | 05:54 |
volodya | I have "gg:foo" open up konqueror and I would like rekonq instead. Changing file associations for text/html, which used to work before, no longer works. Any ideas? | 06:50 |
MTecknology | I can create an XFS partition just fine.. but then I can't mount it ... -_- mount: unknown filesystem type 'xfs' | 07:00 |
kklimonda | well, creating a partition requires only tools but to mount it you need a kernel module ;) | 07:03 |
MTecknology | kklimonda: indeed... wrong kernel was being used... thanks :D | 07:04 |
MTecknology | xfs is supposed to be really fast but less reliable, isn't it? | 07:31 |
vega_ | repos broken ? W: Failed to fetch http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/universe/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2 Hash Sum mismatch | 07:31 |
vega_ | hmm, fi/se broken.. nl works | 07:32 |
MTecknology | vega_: apt-get update | 07:32 |
vega_ | that doesn't fix broken repos | 07:32 |
MTecknology | vega_: the package you're trying to download might have been updated | 07:32 |
vega_ | .. no, i'm just trying to run "apt-get update && apt-get -u dist-upgrade" | 07:33 |
MTecknology | oh | 07:33 |
MTecknology | I should have read that better.. | 07:34 |
vega_ | nl.archive.ubuntu.com works ok, so guess it's just those two broken (fi/se) | 07:35 |
DanaG | Say, how do I edit a bug's title? | 07:53 |
DanaG | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/612591 | 07:53 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 612591 in linux (Ubuntu) "[Maverick] Kernel treats 3-button touchpad as 1-button ClickPad" [Undecided,New] | 07:53 |
DanaG | I need to tweak that wording: "Can't use physical middle button on touchpad" | 07:54 |
lucent | part of updating the bug with a reply, I think | 07:55 |
kklimonda | DanaG: there is a little, yellow icon next to the title | 07:55 |
lucent | you might not have permission to do that, someone will | 07:55 |
DanaG | ah, it is my own bug. There's an exclamation-point icon next to description, but not next to title. | 07:56 |
DanaG | That bug is a real showstopper... I just plain can't use the Maverick kernel as long as that bug is unfixed. | 07:57 |
kklimonda | DanaG: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/612591/+edit | 07:57 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 612591 in linux (Ubuntu) "[Maverick] Kernel treats 3-button touchpad as 1-button ClickPad" [Undecided,New] | 07:57 |
lucent | DanaG: mouse preferences not helpful? | 07:58 |
DanaG | Nope. It thinks I have a ClickPad. | 07:59 |
DanaG | So it breaks my middle button, and makes it into a left button if my finger is on the left side of the pad, and a right button if my finger is on the right side. | 07:59 |
DanaG | s/and a/or a/ | 07:59 |
DanaG | Tweaked description: | 08:00 |
DanaG | [Maverick] Kernel treats touchpad's middle button as ClickPad | 08:01 |
DanaG | Or remove brackets.. Maverick kernel... | 08:01 |
kklimonda | DanaG: have you tried raising this issue with ubuntu-kernel guts? | 08:01 |
kklimonda | guys* | 08:01 |
DanaG | #ubuntu-kernel? | 08:05 |
preecher | i dloaded the 10.10 beta--now my sound and video dont do right when i go to a youtube vid--it kinda like hangs and drags if that is understandable--anyway of fixin without havn to do a reinstall? | 08:13 |
kklimonda | DanaG: yeah | 08:14 |
DanaG | I've pasted the link there. | 08:14 |
vinok | hi guys | 08:19 |
preecher | can i go back to 10.4 lts from the 10.10 beta without havn to do a complete re-install? | 08:25 |
kklimonda | no | 08:26 |
preecher | any chance of changing pulse audio then to something else? my sound dont work right after i dloaded the beta | 08:27 |
kklimonda | you can try disabling it, check google for steps to do that (it's something like echo "autospawn = no" >> ~/.pulse/client.conf && pulse -k but I'm writing it from my memory) | 08:29 |
preecher | thanks | 08:29 |
lucent | fried cheese for dinner, yum. waiting for some kernel inclined folks to make an appearance | 08:32 |
TiK | preecher: don't use the beta? | 08:34 |
preecher | ive done dloaded it | 08:34 |
preecher | or should say "upgraded" to it | 08:35 |
TiK | why | 08:35 |
preecher | because i seen on the ubuntu page it was being offered so i went for it | 08:36 |
TiK | pulseaudio or ubuntu 10.10? | 08:36 |
preecher | the 10.10----i think the pulse came with it--something changed anyway because before my sound/video was working perfect but i suppose probs are to be expected on a beta | 08:37 |
preecher | its just aggravating is all---i can do without youtube but i dont want to | 08:38 |
preecher | and i really dont wanna do a complete reinstall either | 08:39 |
TiK | prob have o modify the file in /etc/modprobe.d/also something | 08:40 |
TiK | alsa | 08:40 |
preecher | im lookn at the ubuntu forum now to see what i can find | 08:41 |
kklimonda | preecher: your i seem to be broken.. and o,w,n.. and few other letters (don't abbreviaiate words - doing that makes it harder for non-native speakers to read your statements) | 08:43 |
TiK | fun | 09:17 |
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killer999 | any application that support metalinks downloads in ubuntu? | 09:36 |
kklimonda | metalinks? | 09:36 |
killer999 | ubuntu daily build metalink | 09:37 |
killer999 | from cdimage.com | 09:37 |
jpds | Probably not. | 09:38 |
killer999 | ah....i thought metainks are like torrents and they can be opened with transmission | 09:39 |
jpds | killer999: What would be the benefit? | 09:39 |
killer999 | i need a daily build torrent file | 09:39 |
kklimonda | there isn't one | 09:39 |
virtuald | killer999: you mean magnet links? | 09:40 |
jpds | killer999: Who will be seeding an ISO image that's generated everyday? | 09:41 |
archer | someone ? | 09:41 |
killer999 | uhm...i don't know.....are metalinks and megnet links are same....look at the metalink file, http://pastebin.com/mVs8X6BF | 09:42 |
killer999 | actuallu I am using chromium and it breaks long downloads....thats why i am looking for a torrent | 09:43 |
glebihan | killer999: no metafiles and magnet links are not the same | 09:43 |
kklimonda | killer999: use wget | 09:43 |
kklimonda | or firefox | 09:43 |
glebihan | killer999: where did you get this metafile from ? | 09:43 |
killer999 | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/maverick-desktop-i386.metalink | 09:44 |
jpds | Wait; if you're downloading on a daily basis, why not use rsync or zsync? | 09:44 |
killer999 | how to use that...sorry I am a bit new to ubuntu | 09:44 |
glebihan | killer999: it seems that the informations in this file are incorrect, the torrent link points to a file that does not exist | 09:45 |
killer999 | hmm....guess i will have to use use firefox | 09:46 |
adv_ | is there a tool that lets me setup which daemons i want to run on startup? with a current available list or smth? | 09:46 |
glebihan | killer999: I'd suggest zsync | 09:46 |
killer999 | ok...I got the solution....i have added the download url to steadyflow download manager...it can pause and resume too...so no need for torrent | 09:47 |
adv_ | glebihan, what's the difference of zsync from rsync | 09:53 |
adv_ | ? | 09:53 |
glebihan | adv_: zsync uses the rsync protocol, but zsync is designed for distribution, see http://zsync.moria.org.uk/ for details | 09:55 |
adv_ | glebihan, distribution? what do you mean | 09:56 |
glebihan | adv_: zsync is intended to be used to distribute files from one server to many users, whereas rsync is originally intended to be used for synchronization | 09:57 |
adv_ | ah thanks | 09:57 |
glebihan | adv_: you're welcome | 09:57 |
archer | sleeping doesn't turn lcd backlight off. sleep/hibernate meets drm atom_bios_loop , drm atom_execute_table_lock error. any suggestion | 10:01 |
adv_ | how can i check what runlevel im currently in? | 10:04 |
yofel | archer: can you file a bug against linux after following? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspendHibernateResume#Debugging%20Suspend | 10:07 |
archer | excuse me. but i don't think it is any related, yofel | 10:08 |
archer | since it is a drm err msg | 10:08 |
howlymowly | hi poeple... short question about kmail: when I start kmail I always have to click on "inbox", so kamil connects to the imap-server and downloads the mail.. is there any way to do this automatically? best would be that i launch kamil and I am automatically in the specified inbox folder with downloaded mails... | 10:10 |
archer | yofel, how to post a feed a bug against that link? | 10:12 |
adv_ | how can i check what runlevel im currently in? | 10:13 |
glebihan | adv_: when do you want to test that | 10:14 |
glebihan | ? | 10:14 |
adv_ | glebihan, hm? now | 10:14 |
yofel | adv_: run 'runlevel' without arguments, it will tell you which one you're running | 10:15 |
adv_ | N 2 | 10:15 |
yofel | not that upstart cares much about runlevels these days | 10:15 |
adv_ | does that mean runlevel 2? | 10:15 |
glebihan | adv_: when the system is running, you're in runlevel 2 | 10:15 |
adv_ | so 2 is default one? | 10:15 |
glebihan | adv_: yes | 10:15 |
adv_ | thanks | 10:15 |
yofel | archer: ok, could be a libdrm bug indeed, I suggested linux as the kernel apport hook gathers most information about your system. And what do you meen by 'feed bug' ? | 10:16 |
archer | haha. file it | 10:16 |
yofel | archer: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs | 10:17 |
archer | the case is, after xorg is closed or at least log of xorg is no longer recorded, no more information could be gathered by apport | 10:17 |
archer | i think the action of auto shutdown is to protect the unit from overheating from dead loop | 10:19 |
yofel | hm.. | 10:20 |
archer | so, yofel. how can i file this bug? no more info avail | 10:20 |
yofel | archer: that's pretty much what I know about suspend debugging, maybe the others in #ubuntu-bugs know more | 10:22 |
archer | ty . trying that channel | 10:22 |
archer | yofel, that channel is XXXXXXX quiet | 10:28 |
yofel | well, I'm not sure what you're used to, but I don't call a channel quiet until there hasn't been at least 3h of inactivity | 10:29 |
yofel | it's not like there's an official staff looking just at the channel all the time | 10:29 |
yofel | somebody will answer you once they see your message | 10:30 |
archer | i could not be there for over 2 hrs | 10:30 |
archer | usually we expect some response in 30 min | 10:34 |
AlanBell | hi all, anyone having issues with the size of the evolution preferences window? | 10:47 |
AlanBell | for me it won't go smaller than 690x780 thus won't fit on a 768 tall screen | 10:48 |
vish | AlanBell: its a known issue.. | 10:51 |
vega_ | AlanBell: yes known issue, somebody reported it also few days ago... | 10:51 |
AlanBell | ok, evolution really needs to sort itself out with resizable stuff | 10:52 |
vish | AlanBell: not sure when that would change , its been around since 2005 ;) » Bug #23810 | 10:54 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 23810 in evolution (Ubuntu) "Evolution is unusable in 800x600" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23810 | 10:54 |
AlanBell | yeah, there are a load of bugs like that, especially when the 1024x600 screen was popular | 10:55 |
vish | since 2004 in bgo … | 10:55 |
* AlanBell is checking out the bzr source of evolution to fix the damn problem | 10:55 | |
AlanBell | is there a way to check out just the current revision, so far I have 383MB of stuff in the .bzr directory and no sign of the current code yet | 10:57 |
archer | AlanBell, there is alt key in the keyboard | 11:03 |
AlanBell | archer: what do you mean? | 11:03 |
archer | press alt and drag the window. will it help | 11:03 |
AlanBell | archer: not if you have y constrain in compiz enabled as is the default | 11:04 |
AlanBell | anyhow, I don't have a problem, I have a 2048x1152 monitor, the point is that the code is broken | 11:04 |
AlanBell | got a bug number for the evolution preferences window? | 11:53 |
AlanBell | the problem is the email preferences-general preferences tab has so much crud on it that it pushes out the minimum size of the window | 11:53 |
AlanBell | so that needs a scrollbox outside it, which I think needs to be added around line 530 of widgets/misc/e-preferences-window.c | 11:54 |
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tukadafoonday | so guys, just downloaded and tried to install Ubuntu 10.10 and when it tried to start the Xserver the video obviously hung and locked the whole system up and therefore i was unable to carry out my installation. | 13:08 |
tukadafoonday | So instead i had to install 10.04. | 13:08 |
gratz|work | With Hal now deprecated (at least it seems to be.. no longer appearing in d-feet on Ubuntu 10.10 beta - meerkat), what is the best way to programmatically detect device inserts for things like usb devices? Before I could watch for a 'DeviceAdded' signal on Hal.Manager.. | 13:29 |
archer | yofel, 3 hrs already | 13:31 |
archer | it is as quiet as the tomb . I have to walk my dog | 13:31 |
yofel | ok, it *is* unusually quiet today.. everyone's busy I guess | 13:32 |
bjsnider | gratz|work, you're always going to see something in dmesg | 13:33 |
ectospasm | I installed 2.6.35-19 on Lucid (see launchpad bug #131094), and now I get a bunch of kernel errors regarding AppArmor userspace utilities needing to be upgraded. Will I be fighting a neverending battle, fixing each little issue, until I upgrade to Maverick? | 13:38 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 131094 in linux (Ubuntu) "Heavy Disk I/O harms desktop responsiveness" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131094 | 13:38 |
gratz|work | bjsnider, was hoping for a nicer way | 13:40 |
gratz|work | there's udev i guess | 13:40 |
bjsnider | i'm not sure you're going to get an answer in this channel. you need to talk to an ubuntu hacker, and they just don't live here | 13:44 |
jared | can anyone help me with terminal crashing in xubuntu maverick? | 13:45 |
gratz|work | sorted it, udev :) thx all / bjsnider | 13:55 |
glaucous | I'm looking for the Ubuntu 10.10 repository, I'm not officially using Ubuntu 10.10 (sitting on backports). Apparently the .10 repository has the latest Catalyst/AMD/ATI fglrx drivers which I need for Xorg 1.9. Somehow I can't find the repo | 13:58 |
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rye | Is there any bug report regarding Alt+PrintScreen not working in Maverick? | 14:06 |
rye | i mean is there anybody else suffering from this | 14:07 |
BajK | nice :) They finally fixed the start splash in 10.10, now it says "Kubuntu" | 14:18 |
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blue_anna | I got this error this morning runniing the update manager: http://nopaste.dk/p2476 | 14:28 |
blue_anna | well I ran it again from the cl after the update manager failed | 14:29 |
BajK | blue_anna: did you try update? sudo apt-get update | 14:29 |
BajK | to refresh package list and might fix broken urls | 14:29 |
blue_anna | yes | 14:29 |
blue_anna | I did that first, but the results were not unusual so I didnt include them | 14:29 |
yofel | blue_anna: can you try to run 'sudo dpkg --purge --force-depends python-virtkey' and try to install it again after that? | 14:35 |
blue_anna | BajK, there is no broken url | 14:35 |
BajK | ah right, did not read properly ;) | 14:35 |
blue_anna | how do I get info on a package? | 14:36 |
blue_anna | onboard requires python-virtkey | 14:36 |
blue_anna | but I dont know what that is | 14:37 |
yofel | apt-cache show $packagename | 14:37 |
blue_anna | yofel, thank you | 14:37 |
blue_anna | oo I dont need that | 14:37 |
yofel | ok, python-virtkey just failed to upgrade here too :( | 14:38 |
blue_anna | for my use -- its cool because I know I dont need the onboard package. thank you, the purge fixes my issue | 14:40 |
yofel | already reported as bug 648695 | 14:40 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 648695 in virtkey (Ubuntu) "package python-virtkey (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: file does not exist: /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/python_virtkey-0.60.0.egg-info" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/648695 | 14:40 |
JAMD456 | I got an odd error using the Update Manager, something about the Package updater failing | 14:41 |
yofel | JAMD456: open a terminal and run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' and tell me what package failed | 14:43 |
JAMD456 | python-virtkey | 14:43 |
JAMD456 | onboard | 14:43 |
yofel | ok, that's bug 648695 | 14:43 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 648695 in virtkey (Ubuntu) "package python-virtkey (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: file does not exist: /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/python_virtkey-0.60.0.egg-info" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/648695 | 14:43 |
JAMD456 | Why is the error "Critical"? | 14:46 |
Pici | Because that package is part of ubuntu-desktop. | 14:47 |
bilalakhtar | On my maverick system, update of package python-virtkey is failing because of the absense of a .egg file. Anyone else facing the same problem? | 14:53 |
yofel | bug 648695 | 14:53 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 648695 in virtkey (Ubuntu) "package python-virtkey (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: file does not exist: /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/python_virtkey-0.60.0.egg-info" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/648695 | 14:53 |
bilalakhtar | Thanks yofel ! | 14:54 |
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mikebeecham | hi guys....I have a disturbing no boot-up after running update manager | 14:56 |
mikebeecham | every time I try to boot, I get as far as "all: disconnected from Plymouth" | 14:56 |
mikebeecham | and nothing else | 14:56 |
mikebeecham | can anyone help me get back to a working desktop? | 14:57 |
bilalakhtar | mikebeecham: Once you get it, press Ctrl+Alt+F2 and log in with your credentials and type startx in the command line that comes | 14:57 |
bilalakhtar | and tell us if that works | 14:57 |
mikebeecham | fatal server error | 14:57 |
mikebeecham | no screens found | 14:57 |
bilalakhtar | hmm | 14:58 |
mikebeecham | ddxSigGiveUp | 14:58 |
mikebeecham | closing log | 14:58 |
mikebeecham | just tried a second time | 14:58 |
mikebeecham | same thing | 14:58 |
bilalakhtar | hmm | 14:58 |
bilalakhtar | I cannot help then | 14:59 |
mikebeecham | mind you...it was a HUGE list of update | 14:59 |
bilalakhtar | sorry | 14:59 |
mikebeecham | can anyone else help? | 14:59 |
bilalakhtar | Anyone here who can help mikebeecham ? | 14:59 |
mikebeecham | unable to connect to X server | 14:59 |
mikebeecham | No such process (errno 3): Server error | 14:59 |
yofel | mikebeecham: can you pastebin you /var/log/Xorg.0.log? (using pastebinit) | 15:00 |
mikebeecham | yofel, you might need to guide me, I've only ever pastebinned, through desktop | 15:01 |
yofel | !pastebinit | 15:01 |
ubottu | pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com | 15:01 |
yofel | well, just run 'sudo apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log' | 15:01 |
mikebeecham | installing it | 15:01 |
mikebeecham | http://pastebin.com/EqEjDMtP | 15:02 |
mikebeecham | thanks so much for your help guys | 15:02 |
yofel | does 'lsmod | grep nvidia' show something? | 15:03 |
mikebeecham | nvidia 9327267 0 | 15:04 |
mikebeecham | agpgart 32011 2 nvidia,via_agp | 15:04 |
yofel | ok... are you using gnome, kde, xfce, lxde..? | 15:04 |
mikebeecham | gnome sir | 15:04 |
yofel | then try to restart gdm, sudo service gdm restart | 15:05 |
mikebeecham | gdm start/running, process 1686 | 15:05 |
mikebeecham | if I do it again, I get a different number...this time 1715 | 15:06 |
yofel | yeah, and x still doesn't come up? | 15:06 |
mikebeecham | nope...I remain in ttyl | 15:06 |
yofel | switching to tty7 or 8 gives you a black screen? | 15:07 |
mikebeecham | sorry, how? | 15:07 |
yofel | ctrl+alt+f7 / f8 | 15:07 |
mikebeecham | ahhh ok | 15:07 |
mikebeecham | well, f8 does nothing | 15:07 |
mikebeecham | f7.... | 15:07 |
mikebeecham | it's trying to mount my cifs shares at the momebnt, but has terminated the first two with status 32 | 15:08 |
mikebeecham | now all I have is a blinking cursor | 15:08 |
mikebeecham | still blinking | 15:09 |
yofel | odd.. go back to tty2 and reinstall the nvidia driver | 15:09 |
mikebeecham | sorry mate...how? | 15:09 |
mikebeecham | sudo apt-get install nvidia-common? | 15:09 |
popey | nvidia-current | 15:09 |
yofel | sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current && sudo apt-get install nvidia-current | 15:09 |
mikebeecham | ok...removing now | 15:10 |
mikebeecham | i wonder if it has anything to do with the nvidia beta drivers I installed recently? I installed them as I experienced nvidia lag since upgrading to maverick | 15:11 |
yofel | errrr | 15:11 |
mikebeecham | anyway, it's installing current drivers at the moment | 15:11 |
yofel | you didn't by chance use the drivers from the nvidia site? | 15:11 |
mikebeecham | yessir | 15:11 |
yofel | the .run | 15:11 |
mikebeecham | yessir | 15:11 |
yofel | OUCH | 15:11 |
mikebeecham | *feels shame coming on* | 15:11 |
mikebeecham | you should probably slap me about now, huh? | 15:12 |
yofel | no, you can use them if you know what you're doing, but they don't play well with our package management and updating process | 15:12 |
mikebeecham | ahhh ok | 15:12 |
yofel | mikebeecham: remove the nvidia-current package and install the .run file again | 15:12 |
mikebeecham | normally I stick with what Ubuntu serves up....however I noticed the lag that was documented on OMG Ubuntu | 15:13 |
mikebeecham | well let me get back to a desktop first before I dice with desktop death again :D | 15:13 |
wzssyqa | is ubiquity-frontend-gtk broken? | 15:13 |
mikebeecham | almost there yofel | 15:14 |
mikebeecham | and again...thanks for your time | 15:14 |
yofel | mikebeecham: about beta drivers: there is 260.19.06 in the x-updates ppa https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates/ | 15:15 |
mikebeecham | to be honest, I'm not sure I even kept the .run drivers | 15:15 |
mikebeecham | unpacking drivers | 15:15 |
mikebeecham | depmod... | 15:16 |
mikebeecham | right...back to cursor | 15:16 |
mikebeecham | what now mate? | 15:16 |
yofel | reboot | 15:16 |
mikebeecham | ok...sec | 15:16 |
mikebeecham | rebooting | 15:16 |
mikebeecham | hopefully, Ill get past plymouth this time | 15:17 |
mikebeecham | goodne4ss I hate plymouth...it dont even look right | 15:17 |
mikebeecham | nope...back to ttyl | 15:18 |
mikebeecham | Ubuntu Maverick (development branch) | 15:18 |
mikebeecham | tty1 | 15:18 |
mikebeecham | i'm trying tty7 | 15:19 |
mikebeecham | starting winbind maemon winbind | 15:19 |
mikebeecham | daemon** | 15:19 |
mikebeecham | nothing but flashing cursor | 15:19 |
yofel | *sigh* | 15:19 |
yofel | what does your Xorg.0.log say this time? same error? | 15:19 |
mikebeecham | will pastebin it | 15:20 |
mikebeecham | hmmm | 15:20 |
mikebeecham | above my login on tty1 | 15:20 |
mikebeecham | Your CPU appears to be lacking expected security protections. Please check your bios settings | 15:21 |
mikebeecham | and my pastebin: | 15:21 |
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mikebeecham | http://pastebin.com/1KkvjVW7 | 15:21 |
blue_anna | Im debugging a xwindows internals problem on my machine too, what is yours? is there a launcpad ticket? | 15:22 |
mikebeecham | blue_anna: me? | 15:22 |
blue_anna | its you who cant start x right? | 15:22 |
mikebeecham | yeah | 15:22 |
mikebeecham | thats right....carried out an Update Manager update | 15:23 |
mikebeecham | rebooted and BAM | 15:23 |
mikebeecham | no X | 15:23 |
yofel | mikebeecham: ok, now the driver is there, but can't be loaded... can you run 'dmesg | tail -n 100 | pastebinit' ? | 15:23 |
mikebeecham | ok sec | 15:23 |
brobostigon | afternoonings | 15:24 |
blue_anna | after a fresh upgrade I had no X .. I had to remove my old /etc/X11/xorg.conf file .. and then I found it was using the fbdev driver instead of the one for nvidia | 15:24 |
mikebeecham | http://pastebin.com/r9KFvh0M | 15:24 |
yofel | right, nvidia needs xorg.conf - the proprietary driver at least | 15:24 |
mikebeecham | blue_anna: well I have a very nicce gentlemain helping me since I'm a compelte OAF in this area | 15:24 |
brobostigon | when i apt-get upgraded earlier, i am getting dpkg errors with python-virtkey and onboard,is this already known ? | 15:25 |
yofel | brobostigon: see topic | 15:25 |
blue_anna | mikebeecham, yes I see :) Iḿ listening for hints for myself too ;) | 15:25 |
mikebeecham | :D | 15:25 |
brobostigon | yofel: i wasnt concentrating, sorry, thank you. | 15:25 |
blue_anna | brobostigon, I just hit that this morning. I just uninstalled onboard .. do you need it? | 15:25 |
brobostigon | blue_anna: onscreen keyboard, no, | 15:26 |
yofel | mikebeecham: ok... what I suspect what happened: you installed the .run, UM updated some Xorg files owerwriting some of the nvidia installed ones, now you have installed the nvidia-current package providing some of them again, but the module is from the beta package. And trying to mix 2 different nvidia driver versions doesn't work | 15:27 |
mikebeecham | ok, makes sense mate | 15:27 |
yofel | easiest way would be you remove nvidia-current again, fetch the .run and install that again | 15:28 |
mikebeecham | notably cause I was trying to be cleverer than I actually am! | 15:28 |
yofel | recovering a system after having an nvidia.run installed ones isn't too easy | 15:28 |
mikebeecham | ok, but how would I get the .run if I cant get to the nivida website | 15:28 |
yofel | or... hm | 15:28 |
mikebeecham | yup? | 15:29 |
bourbon | i like color hues of ATI card better than nvidia | 15:29 |
bjsnider | use the .run with --uninstall | 15:29 |
mikebeecham | bjsnider: now you're going way past my experience level :( | 15:30 |
yofel | mikebeecham: well.. either download the file on another pc and use an usb drive to copy it or use a terminal browser like lynx | 15:30 |
TiK | hi | 15:30 |
mikebeecham | well I can do the first thing | 15:30 |
blue_anna | if anyone knows how the xinput methods work I am having a keyboard issue | 15:30 |
bjsnider | mikebeecham, pardon me, but you used the .run once already, correct? just add --uninstall at the end of it this time | 15:31 |
blue_anna | the keyobard mostly doesnt work, is the issue. if I replug it in, it works in xfce, but not in gnome. xev shows the keyboard is physically working, its a software issue. | 15:31 |
blue_anna | in gnome, changing the input manager (for example, from None to ibus) makes the keyboard function for a tiny length of time .. but one-two seconds later it will stop working again. | 15:31 |
brobostigon | ok, thanks guys and gals. bye. | 15:31 |
mikebeecham | bjsnider: hi mate...I dont have the file anymore....can I just type in the command anyway? | 15:31 |
blue_anna | I can keep changing the input manager. but that kinda sucks :P | 15:32 |
mikebeecham | bjsnider: it just told me that it cant open that file | 15:33 |
mikebeecham | I guess because I dont have it | 15:33 |
mikebeecham | yofel: I'm downloading them now | 15:36 |
yofel | mikebeecham: you'll need the file first, best you use the .run with --uninstall and install the beta driver from the x-update ppa after that | 15:36 |
mikebeecham | ok | 15:36 |
mikebeecham | how will I access the pen drive? is there a particular drive label it will assign? | 15:37 |
TiK | no you have to set a label with gparter | 15:38 |
yofel | no, once you plug it in, run 'dmesg' and it will show as what the drive was added, you'll need the entry with the number like /dev/sdb1, after that run 'sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt' and you can access the driver from /mnt | 15:38 |
blue_anna | or cehck in /media after it mounts | 15:39 |
yofel | s/driver/drive/ | 15:39 |
TiK | one plugged it it will automount an be in /media | 15:39 |
yofel | erm, folks, auto-mount only works if you have a desktop environment running... | 15:39 |
TiK | i didnt read the question ;) | 15:39 |
yofel | TiK: he needs to mount the drive in tty as he can't start X | 15:40 |
blue_anna | ok, I get it. plug it in and scan lsusb -v .. kind of a pain in the neck but you might find the /dev device there I guess | 15:41 |
blue_anna | then you can mount that with the mount command and a spare directory :P | 15:41 |
TiK | usb drive? | 15:42 |
blue_anna | yea he said pendrive | 15:42 |
TiK | you woud hve to know what it is in /dev | 15:43 |
yofel | well, lsusb -v is a bit overkill, as the kernel will print a device add message in the kernel log with the drive name | 15:43 |
blue_anna | I guess dmesg would be easier | 15:43 |
rye | sudo fdisk -l | 15:43 |
TiK | mine is /dev/sdb1 | 15:43 |
rye | blue_anna, ^ will show what disk devices kernel sees | 15:43 |
yofel | right, fdisk would be good too | 15:43 |
blue_anna | so mkdir ~/pen && mount /dev/sdb1 ~/pen | 15:44 |
yofel | erm, why not just use /mnt ? | 15:44 |
TiK | so mount -t fat32 /dev/sdb1 /usb | 15:44 |
yofel | that's what the folder is there for after all | 15:44 |
TiK | doesn't matter | 15:44 |
yofel | well true | 15:45 |
TiK | less typing | 15:45 |
blue_anna | TiK, looks like a plan :) | 15:45 |
mikebeecham | getting there | 15:51 |
mikebeecham | still downloaduing drivers | 15:51 |
mikebeecham | yofel: will be right with you :) | 15:51 |
halvors | I get an apt error i have tryed "dpkg --configure -a" but it does not work: http://pastebin.com/AJn3S0Y9 | 15:52 |
Pici | halvors: I mentioned to look at the topic for a reason. ( https://launchpad.net/bugs/648695 | 15:53 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 648695 in virtkey (Ubuntu Maverick) "package python-virtkey (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: file does not exist: /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/python_virtkey-0.60.0.egg-info" [Critical,Fix committed] | 15:53 |
mikebeecham | right, I've mounted /dev/sdb1 | 15:57 |
mikebeecham | how to I get onto that mount? | 15:57 |
yofel | mikebeecham: cd /mng | 15:57 |
yofel | cd /mnt | 15:57 |
mikebeecham | cool | 15:57 |
yofel | (if that's where you mounted it) | 15:57 |
mikebeecham | right | 15:58 |
yofel | for future reference, read this ;) | 15:58 |
yofel | !cli | 15:58 |
ubottu | The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal or type in it: man intro | 15:58 |
mikebeecham | right | 15:58 |
mikebeecham | tried to uninstall...got a lot of errors, but I'm now back to my cursor | 15:59 |
mikebeecham | is it worth trying to install the current drivers? | 15:59 |
yofel | well, try it, if the .run is properly removed it should work now | 15:59 |
mikebeecham | installing now | 16:00 |
mikebeecham | if this does not work...is there a way to completely purge all video drviers and reinstall from scratch? | 16:00 |
mikebeecham | yay! | 16:02 |
mikebeecham | yofel | 16:02 |
mikebeecham | you're a star mate | 16:02 |
mikebeecham | i'm back onto my desktop | 16:02 |
* yofel just had his experince with nvidia .run files some 3 years ago... | 16:03 | |
yofel | ahh, the memories/nightmares... | 16:03 |
mikebeecham | lol | 16:03 |
mikebeecham | tell you what...let's not go down thatr oute again | 16:03 |
mikebeecham | however, I wonder if I'm going to experience the lag issues now that I'm back onto current drivers? | 16:03 |
mikebeecham | which started this whole debarcle off to begin with | 16:04 |
yofel | well, possibly, you can install the packaged beta driver from the x-update ppa, just add the ppa and update | 16:04 |
yofel | https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates/ | 16:04 |
mikebeecham | what is the difference between the packaged beta and the .run? | 16:04 |
yofel | the packaged beta doesn't destroy your system :P | 16:05 |
mikebeecham | hehe | 16:05 |
mikebeecham | fair play | 16:05 |
yofel | well, it's installed in a way that makes it not mess with the other system files | 16:05 |
mikebeecham | whereas nvidia just runs riot like a fat kid in a cake shop? | 16:06 |
bjsnider | nvidia does not even recommend using its own installer. there's a sticky post on their forums where they're telling people to use the distribution installer instead | 16:06 |
* gnomefreak went away for ~1 week and i have 290 upgraded apps | 16:06 | |
gnomefreak | sory 190 | 16:07 |
bjsnider | http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=72490 | 16:07 |
mikebeecham | yofel: I cant thank you enough sir | 16:08 |
mikebeecham | one beer or two? | 16:08 |
yofel | give me one, you take the other one ;) | 16:09 |
mikebeecham | we can chink our bottles together, watching the sun go do.....oh no, thats brokeback mountain. I'll post it to you | 16:09 |
mikebeecham | holy schmoley....85 updates to download | 16:10 |
gnomefreak | only 85 | 16:11 |
mikebeecham | today | 16:11 |
mikebeecham | updating cache is taking a scary amount of 'waiting' time | 16:11 |
gnomefreak | oh | 16:11 |
mikebeecham | i need a shower...brb | 16:11 |
gnomefreak | e17 still not respun | 16:12 |
* gnomefreak not going to have time before release | 16:13 | |
gnomefreak | :( | 16:13 |
notlistening | Hi just used the 10.10 live daily build or tired and ubiqity hung at the country selection page this been reported? | 16:13 |
gnomefreak | not sure you would have to sift through them, if no one knows | 16:14 |
gnomefreak | am i here? | 16:14 |
gnomefreak | looks like i am | 16:16 |
yofel | respun? | 16:16 |
charlie-tca | gnomefreak: yes, you are here | 16:17 |
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notlistening | Amazing this is going out in three days :D | 16:18 |
gnomefreak | charlie-tca: thanks | 16:18 |
Pici | notlistening: 10.10 doesn't release until the 10th of October. | 16:18 |
gnomefreak | yofel: re spin with current depends | 16:18 |
gnomefreak | RC is out thursday | 16:19 |
gnomefreak | as late as monday but schedule thurs | 16:20 |
i_is_broke | anyone else having issues with updating? | 16:22 |
i_is_broke | im getting a python error. | 16:22 |
i_is_broke | virtkey | 16:22 |
Daekdroom | I am. | 16:22 |
gnomefreak | not here yet | 16:22 |
i_is_broke | ok as long as its just not me..lol | 16:22 |
gnomefreak | but i am still updating | 16:22 |
yofel | see topic... | 16:22 |
Daekdroom | Yes, we know | 16:22 |
i_is_broke | lol | 16:23 |
i_is_broke | seen | 16:23 |
i_is_broke | yofel, well if they know its a issue, do they have a work around for it? | 16:24 |
yofel | i_is_broke: there is a workaround on the bug | 16:24 |
i_is_broke | tried it, it felled. | 16:24 |
i_is_broke | with a big F | 16:24 |
yofel | really? let me try | 16:24 |
Pici | Why does there need to be a workaround? | 16:24 |
i_is_broke | ill try again and see if it works. | 16:24 |
i_is_broke | pici, cause it wont let me update. | 16:25 |
yofel | wfm | 16:25 |
gnomefreak | well im updating but not yet installing updates | 16:26 |
i_is_broke | gnomefreak: thats when it broke on me, is the install part. | 16:27 |
charlie-tca | It will break | 16:29 |
* gnomefreak has no doubt | 16:29 | |
charlie-tca | Well, at least it will give you a crash | 16:29 |
gnomefreak | something always breaks for me ;) | 16:30 |
yofel | hm, e17 is a problem, as it doesn't build with current libecore :S | 16:30 |
gnomefreak | yofel: yeap i already filed bug | 16:30 |
gnomefreak | weeks ago | 16:30 |
gnomefreak | yofel: see bug 613271 | 16:32 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 613271 in e17 (Ubuntu) "E17 is not installible due to unmet depends" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/613271 | 16:32 |
yofel | hm, would need a FFE now, but since it's in universe and not seeded should be possible | 16:32 |
yofel | let's see if the debian package builds fine | 16:32 |
gnomefreak | be back smoke | 16:32 |
bullgard4 | /etc/mc/filehighlight.ini seems to define and list those file categories that mc displays in different colors. What file determines what color mc actually uses? ~/.mc/filehighlight.ini does not exist. | 16:44 |
mikebeecham | yofel: back, and all running great!! | 16:48 |
yofel | good to hear :) | 16:48 |
mikebeecham | :D | 16:50 |
charlie-tca | notlistening: The latest desktop cd for Ubuntu Maverick installs without errors | 17:01 |
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dylan_ | Accidently deleted the Networking Applet from my panel, can't get it back, deleted and reinstalled, and still can't find it to get it on the panel... | 18:22 |
dylan_ | help? | 18:22 |
dylan_ | Nevermind. | 18:26 |
dylan_ | Ok, so on the main panel, the Messages applet disappeared, and now Empathy has it's own applet. And the messages one is nowhere to be found. | 19:30 |
dylan_ | Anybody know how to bring the messages applet back? | 19:31 |
ChogyDan1 | !panelreset | 19:32 |
ubottu | To reset the panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel » | 19:32 |
dylan_ | this won't effect a Cairo Dock will it? | 19:32 |
dylan_ | Worked. Cairo came right back. thanks. | 19:33 |
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Acidphase | hey uh, not sure if someone can help me with this but I cant seem to get sound in either UT or UT2004 , 2.6.35-22-generic #33-Ubuntu | 19:51 |
Acidphase | (64bit) | 19:51 |
gverig | Running ubuntu 10.10, in tomboy notes, the panel plugin- note titles are invisible (I see note icons and can opten them but can't see the text title). Worked fine on Friday. Any thoughts? | 19:52 |
charlie-tca | gverig: bug filed | 19:54 |
charlie-tca | bug 627744 | 19:54 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 627744 in tomboy (Ubuntu) "Tomboy note names are blank in the Application Indicator fallback menu" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/627744 | 19:54 |
gverig | charlie-tca: thanks!! I did look at launchpad... not good enough apparently :) | 19:56 |
charlie-tca | no problem | 19:56 |
charlie-tca | bugs are hard to find, sometimes. | 19:57 |
Israphel | I need to change permission to a file | 20:10 |
Israphel | to restore the read permission | 20:11 |
Israphel | I removed it 'cause it was a workaround for the ia32-libs recent bugggg | 20:11 |
Israphel | bug* | 20:11 |
halvors | How fix this bug on my PC? | 20:38 |
halvors | https://launchpad.net/bugs/648695 | 20:38 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 648695 in virtkey (Ubuntu Maverick) "package python-virtkey (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: file does not exist: /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/python_virtkey-0.60.0.egg-info" [Critical,Fix released] | 20:38 |
killer999 | kubuntu 10.10 installer crashes in virtualbox....is there a cli or any other method to install?? | 20:59 |
charlie-tca | Try the alternate image? | 21:07 |
BUGabundo | evening | 21:34 |
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GA_Bull | !panelreset | 21:43 |
ubottu | To reset the panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel » | 21:43 |
GA_Bull | Well. I reseted my panel, and Network Manager's applet is still missing......... | 21:44 |
glebihan | GA_Bull: launch "nm-applet" | 21:45 |
GA_Bull | got this response | 21:46 |
GA_Bull | An instance of nm-applet is already running. | 21:46 |
GA_Bull | ** (nm-applet:2518): WARNING **: <WARN> constructor(): Couldn't initialize the D-Bus manager. | 21:46 |
glebihan | GA_Bull: trying killing the running nm-applet and start it again | 21:47 |
GA_Bull | killed it, and brought it back, and got this response | 21:49 |
GA_Bull | dylan@Dylan-Ubuntu:~$ nm-applet | 21:49 |
GA_Bull | ** Message: applet now removed from the notification area | 21:49 |
GA_Bull | ** (nm-applet:2631): DEBUG: old state indicates that this was not a disconnect 0 | 21:49 |
GA_Bull | i'm going to try to kill it a second time. and see if it works. | 21:50 |
GA_Bull | ok, back, now i'm going to try to kill it and bring it back.... | 21:56 |
glebihan | ok | 21:56 |
GA_Bull | can't even get it to let me kill it now... still getting the first message... | 21:58 |
GA_Bull | dylan@Dylan-Ubuntu:~$ nm-applet | 21:58 |
GA_Bull | ** Message: applet now removed from the notification area | 21:58 |
GA_Bull | ** (nm-applet:4577): DEBUG: old state indicates that this was not a disconnect 0 | 21:58 |
glebihan | GA_Bull: do you get to launch nm-connection-editor ? | 21:59 |
GA_Bull | i can try. one sec. | 22:00 |
GA_Bull | yup, it runs just fine. | 22:00 |
glebihan | GA_Bull: what you try is first killing nm-applet, then restart network-manager (sudo service network-manager restart) and then restart nm-applet | 22:01 |
glebihan | what you *can* try | 22:01 |
GA_Bull | ok. i'm still trying to get it to let me kill nm-applet again. it won'd pgrep it now. | 22:02 |
glebihan | then it's probably not running | 22:03 |
GA_Bull | ok, just tried the process you gave me... and i'm still getting the same message. | 22:04 |
GA_Bull | dylan@Dylan-Ubuntu:~$ nm-applet | 22:06 |
GA_Bull | ** Message: applet now removed from the notification area | 22:06 |
GA_Bull | ** (nm-applet:4806): DEBUG: old state indicates that this was not a disconnect 0 | 22:06 |
GA_Bull | running it as sudo doesn't work either. | 22:09 |
glebihan | GA_Bull: I think it's a known bug | 22:10 |
glebihan | bug 589362 | 22:10 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 589362 in network-manager-applet (Ubuntu) "NM-applet doesn't start" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/589362 | 22:10 |
GA_Bull | ok, | 22:10 |
GA_Bull | hadn't checked that. doh. | 22:10 |
GA_Bull | well. I can live without it for a while. I can still connect to networks. | 22:11 |
GA_Bull | i'm going to try one more panel reset. | 22:18 |
GA_Bull | !panelreset | 22:18 |
ubottu | To reset the panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel » | 22:18 |
GA_Bull | and now gnome-power-manager crashed. | 22:18 |
GA_Bull | ok, it's back. | 22:18 |
iConfused | http://demandprogress.org/blacklist/?source=bb < Help stop internet censorship in the US GOGOGO D: | 22:49 |
notlistening | I have just installed the latest 10.10 build and updates are broken any clues...? | 22:50 |
uvacav | anyone have any issues with wireless running really slow on 10.10 beta rls? Im getting updates at 10kb/sec. | 22:50 |
ChogyDan | notlistening: do you get an error? | 22:50 |
notlistening | yeah two i will just get the laptop and it is when i run apt-get update | 22:51 |
killer999_ | i am getting an strange error after today's update : E: python-virtkey: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 | 22:51 |
killer999_ | E: onboard: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured | 22:51 |
duffydack | killer999_, I had that. I just removed it | 22:52 |
killer999_ | is this related to virtualbox? | 22:52 |
ChogyDan | killer999_: see /topic | 22:52 |
duffydack | I dont use onboard so I figured, why not | 22:52 |
killer999_ | uhm...what should i remove? | 22:52 |
duffydack | I removed both onboard and python-virtkey, but thats upto you if you want to. | 22:53 |
duffydack | or wait for a fix.. | 22:53 |
notlistening | ChogyDan, seems like it is unable to talk to some repositories for updates | 22:55 |
notlistening | also getting problems with internet traffic | 22:56 |
uvacav | killer999 i had the same problem | 22:56 |
notlistening | connected directly into the hub of my router | 22:56 |
killer999_ | so removing is the only solution as of now as this happens with every app I install?? | 22:56 |
uvacav | notlistening: same problems i am having | 22:57 |
ChogyDan | killer999_: just wait a bit, the update is coming soon | 22:57 |
uvacav | notlistening: although mine is over wireless | 22:57 |
notlistening | uvacav, it is a networking issue or...? | 22:57 |
killer999_ | uvacav, if you mean today itself, then I can wait | 22:57 |
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notlistening | uvacav, I also had problems initally running update | 22:58 |
uvacav | killer999_ : that was choggydan who said to wait | 22:58 |
killer999_ | oops | 22:58 |
killer999_ | ma bad | 22:58 |
notlistening | uvacav, seems that it is not my network card then...? | 22:58 |
killer999_ | ChogyDan, if you mean today itself, then I can wait | 22:58 |
uvacav | notlistening: all i know is i just installed the beta rls (not daily rls), and my connection is really slow AND i cant update | 22:58 |
notlistening | uvacav, went back and installed the beta as the daily build kept hanging | 22:58 |
yofel | the python-virtkey bug is fixed, you just have to wait until the fix has made it to all mirrors | 22:59 |
ChogyDan | killer999_: I just got it myself. | 22:59 |
uvacav | notlistening: same exact thing i did | 22:59 |
uvacav | notlistening: my updates are failing with "(-5 - No address associated with hostname)" | 22:59 |
notlistening | uvacav what hardware is the wirless card? | 23:00 |
killer999_ | oh...BTW I have heard 'yofel' name somewhere else... | 23:00 |
uvacav | notlistening: atheros, ar9285 | 23:00 |
yofel | killer999_: I tend to stray around a bit from time to time, so quite possible | 23:01 |
notlistening | totally different, have you made any progress, it seems to hit some repositories and not others | 23:01 |
killer999_ | lol no i mean in some ppa package | 23:01 |
killer999_ | yofel, you maintain a ppa by any chance? | 23:01 |
uvacav | notlistening: nope first thing i did is come here, i'll let u know if i figure something out.. out of curiosity what router are you using | 23:01 |
yofel | killer999_: I have a few, see my LP page https://launchpad.net/~yofel | 23:02 |
bjsnider | uvacav, there may be a better driver for that card in the backports-wireless package | 23:02 |
bjsnider | it's ath9k in any event | 23:02 |
uvacav | bjsnider: i'l check that out, thanks | 23:03 |
notlistening | Thompson - TG585v7 | 23:04 |
bjsnider | i'm not sure if the kernel team has that package set up for maverick yet | 23:04 |
bjsnider | !info linux-backports-wireless-generic maverick | 23:04 |
ubottu | Package linux-backports-wireless-generic does not exist in maverick | 23:04 |
uvacav | ah | 23:05 |
notlistening | just a box supplied by my board band supplier | 23:05 |
notlistening | I will go dig deeper | 23:05 |
yofel | !info linux-backports-modules-wireless-maverick-generic | 23:05 |
ubottu | linux-backports-modules-wireless-maverick-generic (source: linux-meta): Backported wireless drivers for generic kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.35.22.23 (maverick), package size 4 kB, installed size 32 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia all armel) | 23:05 |
bjsnider | uvacav, install that and reboot | 23:06 |
uvacav | notlistening: its not verizon fios is it? maybe some sort of ipv6 thing i dunno.. | 23:07 |
uvacav | bjsnider: i will try that, thanks | 23:07 |
scummos | hi, is there kde 4.5.1 packages available for ubuntu 10.10? | 23:07 |
scummos | or 4.5.x | 23:07 |
yofel | scummos: maverick has 4.5.1 | 23:09 |
scummos | yofel: okay, cool | 23:11 |
scummos | thanks | 23:11 |
killer999_ | yofel, uhm ok...now I know | 23:11 |
Ian_corne | LP down? | 23:34 |
scummos | anyone knows how to boot 10.10 using unetbootin? i currently get an "no init found" error | 23:34 |
duffydack | gnome-terminal vanished.. and I get some error when trying to install it | 23:35 |
yofel | Ian_corne: not here | 23:36 |
Ian_corne | hrmf | 23:37 |
notlistening | My problem with updating seems to be that apt can not resolve ubuntu.com | 23:38 |
Ian_corne | I'm really not getting anything through | 23:38 |
notlistening | I have tried UK server and Main Server | 23:38 |
Ian_corne | Error reading https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~banshee-team/+archive/banshee-unstable: <urlopen error [Errno 110] Connection timed out> | 23:38 |
notlistening | and ssh is no longer included on the CD..? | 23:39 |
scummos | wtf | 23:39 |
Ian_corne | ssh server never was preinstalled | 23:39 |
Ian_corne | if that's what you're talking about | 23:40 |
notlistening | not pre install but i can not access internet updates but i have forced it to use the sources on CD and no ssh..? | 23:40 |
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pegasusbill | yellow | 23:46 |
pegasusbill | is the release v10.10 oct 1st? | 23:47 |
Daekdroom | pegasusbill, October 10th | 23:49 |
craig | I just installed the latest AMD64 Kubuntu 10.10 Beta 1: I'm having trouble installing kbluetooth: I just installed aptitude but it claims the package kbluetooth doesn't even exist. Do I need to enable an extra Repo to get Kbluetooth? Or how exactly do I get Kbluetooth installed...? | 23:51 |
notlistening | Fixed the updating proglem ;) | 23:53 |
notlistening | shame he has gone :P | 23:53 |
notlistening | Have there been any other reports of the update issue..? | 23:54 |
yofel | notlistening: you mean python-virtkey? that's fixed | 23:54 |
notlistening | no apt not being able to resiolve ubuntu.com | 23:55 |
yofel | that sounds like a DNS issue to me | 23:55 |
notlistening | yeah i think it is but not with my DNS as all my other machines run normally | 23:56 |
notlistening | ping works find | 23:56 |
notlistening | but apt doesn't | 23:56 |
yofel | craig: kbluetooth is deprecated, maverick uses bluedevil | 23:56 |
notlistening | added ubuntu.com to /etc/hosts and hey presto it worked | 23:56 |
yofel | that's odd.. | 23:56 |
notlistening | very | 23:56 |
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