[00:05] hey BUGabundo [00:08] hey kklimonda [00:08] did you drop me on your JID list? [00:08] BUGabundo: no [00:09] BUGabundo: hmm, you don't get messages from me? [00:09] oh, you did [00:14] hi repost my issue : amd 64 failed to hibernate or sleep with on screen message: drm atom_bios loop, drm atom_execute_table_locked. [00:15] it is a L310 cpu with ati 3200 HD. someone here? [00:16] some are [00:16] nice to hear that. [00:17] The error message was not recorded in any written log. And the unit finally comes to a shutdown. [00:18] i didn't not remember them all, but it appears that maverick meets a dead loop with bios and don't know how to deal with such operation request [00:21] archer: really??? [00:22] has anyone solved the problem with dpkg-reconfigure and cron once i upgraded to 10.10 i haven't been able to run dpkg-reconfigure -a because it stops after it hits cron [00:22] yes. BUGabundo [00:22] why the whois ? [00:22] pff [00:22] ??? [00:23] anyone? [00:23] ive did the good ol google but i havent found any answers [00:23] shilow, I have no clue. [00:23] what is your local time, BUGabundo [00:24] GMT +1 [00:24] ah, KVM/apparmor wasn't happy with my .img files in a non-std location. put them back rebooted and VM started [00:33] today's update : ia32-libs (20090808ubuntu6) ... [00:33] g_module_open() failed for /usr/lib32/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-jasper.so: libjasper.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [00:35] ia32-libs strikes again [00:35] Hy @all [00:36] i would like to test the new ubuntu font in kubuntu [00:36] how can i do that? [00:39] yes it appears to ia32libs [00:40] launchpad bug board said it is already fixed . but update is not helpful yet [00:58] seem to be having X issues with my nvidia card, known problem? [00:59] Blue1: did you re-reun the nvidia installer after a kernel upgrade? [01:00] well I did ALL the upgrades, then apt-get the nividia-185 driver -- [01:00] iow it worked in 10.04, but didn't in 10.10 -- in drivers were ever installed. [01:01] fresh install btw, NOT upgrade [01:01] hum [01:01] ATI even worse. [01:02] yes. [01:02] i give up anyhow [01:02] Blue1: there is no 185 driver in lucid and maverick, in lucid it should pull in 195, in maverick I don't know [01:03] the new nvidia package is nvidia-current [01:03] there is a 185 driver package in maverick, but it's a dummy that pulls in nvidia-current [01:03] my hd3200 has been never correctly recognized by fglrx. [01:03] people should be using jockey to instal it [01:03] noway [01:03] how to use jockey? [01:04] no such button or so [01:04] i think I tryed jockey-gtk iirc [01:05] need to reboot. brb [01:05] well it hauled in to drivers, I was surprised. [01:05] always. [01:06] you are already a worrier to use maverick [01:06] hmm [01:10] the first reason to try maverick, was that lucid doesn't support my hardware [01:12] what will happen if i remove ia32-libs [01:13] wierd question... I run Ubuntu in VirtualBox... 10.04.1 works fine in it... but when i upgrade to 10.10 the video driver reverts back to 800x600 and the bidirectional clipboard goes away [01:13] archer: there is a backported kernel from maverick for lucid [01:14] is there a new guestOS drivers setup for 10.10? [01:14] kklimonda, that is to say it is still some kind of kernal>? [01:14] archer: ? [01:14] ia32 [01:15] is it safe to remove that ia32-lib ? [01:15] archer: well, it's been a comment to your previous statement about running maverick because lucid doesn't support your hardware. [01:15] archer: yeah, it is [01:15] as long as you don't plan on running 32bit applications [01:15] hum.. [01:15] anonnyyyyinnnggg [01:16] how about that - intalled a vanila xorg.conf and 10.10 came up. [01:16] Blue1: if you installed nvidia without jockey you need to create a xorg.conf yourself, yes... [01:16] at least flash is 32bit, [01:16] or run nvidia-xconfig for that matter [01:16] archer: there is a 64bit flash available from adobe [01:17] it works better here then the 32bit version [01:17] k [01:17] remove it [01:17] kklimonda: yesh the 64 bit flash plugin works way way better then the 32 bit shoe horned version on 64 bit systems [01:18] but i am still afraid [01:18] that libsound32 is .. [01:18] then don't use beta software [01:18] what about it? [01:18] lib32sound2 is very important [01:19] for skype some player [01:19] who care, remove first [01:19] i hate to read error report [01:19] what are you trying to accomplish? [01:20] avoid chain effect from ia32 [01:20] why are you removing it? [01:22] errors [01:22] oh, cool [01:22] heh [01:22] launchpad error [01:22] incorrectly displaying some items [01:23] I don't think how is it related to ia32-libs? [01:24] after a error on apt-get upgrade [01:25] yeap i don;'t believe it is even related [01:25] but after removal , all the desktop interface appears correct [01:26] since that error message was the only clue to me [01:27] you know [01:27] there are running tasks, date, time, im, power-off items on gnome [01:28] with that error message, date,time,power off are in a mess [01:30] i got it [01:31] that might explain why i cannot install ATI version display driver. [01:31] with ia32 in bugs itself, how can its 32bit driver program be reliable? and ati drop latest xorg [01:36] Blue1, [01:36] erm, you can't install 32bit drivers on a 64bit system [01:36] is that true that adobe player is mroe laggy [01:36] applications mights still work with ia32-libs, but to use 32bit device drivers you need a 32bit kernel [01:37] yofel, please refer to ati driver release note [01:37] archer: and where do I find that note? (I don't know much about ati) [01:37] .. [01:37] it is said ... need to compile it with 32 kernal for 64 bits system or so [01:38] assumed it worked the same as the nvidia ones, and they have seperate 32 and 64 bit drivers [01:38] yeah. that is why nv is more friendly [01:38] but you have no choice if you buy an amd notebook [01:40] AMD-ATI they are from the same plant [01:40] at least brand [01:44] ati open source drive doesn't support opengl hadware accel. [01:44] as a netbook it is for sure a pitty if you cannot install official property driver [01:46] * archer disconnects himself by rebooting the router --- is adoble wrapper really more laggy? === archer_ is now known as archer [01:52] Has anyone noticed the the mouse cursor in 10.04 doesn't have the click point (i dont know the real name) at its tip? It's a few pixels down and it make precision not as good [01:53] hot spot [01:53] Yes, lol [01:53] :DD [01:54] I know it's not a major issue but I want to bring it up for discussion [01:54] hello. recently on meekrat, my sound stopped working. i get the startup sound from GDM, but when i log in, sound does not work... anyone have any ideas where to look [01:54] hum another ia32 issue [01:57] dereks, with my laptop, it is auto___ muted at logging-in [01:57] archer: nope, i have played with gnome, seems it should be playing [01:58] sorry. is that to say you cannot make it un-muted? [01:58] it isn't muted [01:59] well, according to the preferences [01:59] no clue [02:00] weird, just solved it by turning up in alsamixer [02:01] haha almost muted [02:04] yofel: yeah you can install 32 bit apps on 64 bit system [02:04] yofel: force install [02:04] why would alsa have it muted? [02:05] the gui tools didn't... [02:05] yofel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LightScribe [02:05] Blue1, how to install adobe-flashplugin please [02:06] ah [02:06] archer: you are using the squre whatever it's called from adobe? [02:06] yes from its webpage [02:06] ubuntu one is luanched but nothing in process [02:07] archer: you are looking for the 64 bit flash correct? [02:07] y [02:08] archer: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html [02:08] will try [02:08] archer: just untar it, I'll get the locations in a sec [02:09] archer: this has the right locations: (old article so ignore the alpha flash plugin, but locations are correct) http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=161 [02:12] i am reading labs [02:13] ? [02:13] gnash has a server problem. with its cache managment and connection [02:13] dunno what gnash is. [02:14] firefox plugin [02:15] is that possbile to make use of offical .so file? [02:16] archer: just follow the instructions, it will put the .so at the right place [02:16] thanks reading === Blue1 is now known as Blue11Away [02:22] good thanks === iConfused is now known as iConfused|away === nigelbabu is now known as nigelb [03:38] Is it true that gnome 3 wont come with 10.10? [03:38] uh, gnome 3 has been delayed till 2011 last I heard [03:39] indeed [04:36] When trying to open /proc/kcore for read mc warns: "nm: /proc/kcore: File format not recognized." What does »nm« stand for? [04:38] bullgard4: nm lists symbols from object files, see "man nm" for details [04:40] glebihan: Ah! Excellent! I just read man nm. But is »nm« a acronym? What do the letters n and m stand for? [04:42] bullgard4: not sure, but I'd say it stands for "nomenclature" [04:42] glebihan: I see. Thank you very much for your help. [04:42] bullgard4: you're welcome === Blue11Away is now known as Blue1 [05:52] found serious data corruption with new firewire stack and an adapter I was using (previously without corruption) before [05:52] what to do about it? anyone familiar with hunting firewire bugs happen to be watching here? [05:54] lucent: you will have more luck on #ubuntu-kernel probably, but in few hours. [05:54] oh, thank you for the advice then :) [06:50] I have "gg:foo" open up konqueror and I would like rekonq instead. Changing file associations for text/html, which used to work before, no longer works. Any ideas? [07:00] I can create an XFS partition just fine.. but then I can't mount it ... -_- mount: unknown filesystem type 'xfs' [07:03] well, creating a partition requires only tools but to mount it you need a kernel module ;) [07:04] kklimonda: indeed... wrong kernel was being used... thanks :D [07:31] xfs is supposed to be really fast but less reliable, isn't it? [07:31] repos broken ? W: Failed to fetch http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/universe/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2 Hash Sum mismatch [07:32] hmm, fi/se broken.. nl works [07:32] vega_: apt-get update [07:32] that doesn't fix broken repos [07:32] vega_: the package you're trying to download might have been updated [07:33] .. no, i'm just trying to run "apt-get update && apt-get -u dist-upgrade" [07:33] oh [07:34] I should have read that better.. [07:35] nl.archive.ubuntu.com works ok, so guess it's just those two broken (fi/se) [07:53] Say, how do I edit a bug's title? [07:53] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/612591 [07:53] Launchpad bug 612591 in linux (Ubuntu) "[Maverick] Kernel treats 3-button touchpad as 1-button ClickPad" [Undecided,New] [07:54] I need to tweak that wording: "Can't use physical middle button on touchpad" [07:55] part of updating the bug with a reply, I think [07:55] DanaG: there is a little, yellow icon next to the title [07:55] you might not have permission to do that, someone will [07:56] ah, it is my own bug. There's an exclamation-point icon next to description, but not next to title. [07:57] That bug is a real showstopper... I just plain can't use the Maverick kernel as long as that bug is unfixed. [07:57] DanaG: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/612591/+edit [07:57] Launchpad bug 612591 in linux (Ubuntu) "[Maverick] Kernel treats 3-button touchpad as 1-button ClickPad" [Undecided,New] [07:58] DanaG: mouse preferences not helpful? [07:59] Nope. It thinks I have a ClickPad. [07:59] So it breaks my middle button, and makes it into a left button if my finger is on the left side of the pad, and a right button if my finger is on the right side. [07:59] s/and a/or a/ [08:00] Tweaked description: [08:01] [Maverick] Kernel treats touchpad's middle button as ClickPad [08:01] Or remove brackets.. Maverick kernel... [08:01] DanaG: have you tried raising this issue with ubuntu-kernel guts? [08:01] guys* [08:05] #ubuntu-kernel? [08:13] i dloaded the 10.10 beta--now my sound and video dont do right when i go to a youtube vid--it kinda like hangs and drags if that is understandable--anyway of fixin without havn to do a reinstall? [08:14] DanaG: yeah [08:14] I've pasted the link there. [08:19] hi guys [08:25] can i go back to 10.4 lts from the 10.10 beta without havn to do a complete re-install? [08:26] no [08:27] any chance of changing pulse audio then to something else? my sound dont work right after i dloaded the beta [08:29] you can try disabling it, check google for steps to do that (it's something like echo "autospawn = no" >> ~/.pulse/client.conf && pulse -k but I'm writing it from my memory) [08:29] thanks [08:32] fried cheese for dinner, yum. waiting for some kernel inclined folks to make an appearance [08:34] preecher: don't use the beta? [08:34] ive done dloaded it [08:35] or should say "upgraded" to it [08:35] why [08:36] because i seen on the ubuntu page it was being offered so i went for it [08:36] pulseaudio or ubuntu 10.10? [08:37] the 10.10----i think the pulse came with it--something changed anyway because before my sound/video was working perfect but i suppose probs are to be expected on a beta [08:38] its just aggravating is all---i can do without youtube but i dont want to [08:39] and i really dont wanna do a complete reinstall either [08:40] prob have o modify the file in /etc/modprobe.d/also something [08:40] alsa [08:41] im lookn at the ubuntu forum now to see what i can find [08:43] preecher: your i seem to be broken.. and o,w,n.. and few other letters (don't abbreviaiate words - doing that makes it harder for non-native speakers to read your statements) [09:17] fun === ZNC_shookees is now known as shookees [09:36] any application that support metalinks downloads in ubuntu? [09:36] metalinks? [09:37] ubuntu daily build metalink [09:37] from cdimage.com [09:38] Probably not. [09:39] ah....i thought metainks are like torrents and they can be opened with transmission [09:39] killer999: What would be the benefit? [09:39] i need a daily build torrent file [09:39] there isn't one [09:40] killer999: you mean magnet links? [09:41] killer999: Who will be seeding an ISO image that's generated everyday? [09:41] someone ? [09:42] uhm...i don't know.....are metalinks and megnet links are same....look at the metalink file, http://pastebin.com/mVs8X6BF [09:43] actuallu I am using chromium and it breaks long downloads....thats why i am looking for a torrent [09:43] killer999: no metafiles and magnet links are not the same [09:43] killer999: use wget [09:43] or firefox [09:43] killer999: where did you get this metafile from ? [09:44] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/maverick-desktop-i386.metalink [09:44] Wait; if you're downloading on a daily basis, why not use rsync or zsync? [09:44] how to use that...sorry I am a bit new to ubuntu [09:45] killer999: it seems that the informations in this file are incorrect, the torrent link points to a file that does not exist [09:46] hmm....guess i will have to use use firefox [09:46] is there a tool that lets me setup which daemons i want to run on startup? with a current available list or smth? [09:46] killer999: I'd suggest zsync [09:47] ok...I got the solution....i have added the download url to steadyflow download manager...it can pause and resume too...so no need for torrent [09:53] glebihan, what's the difference of zsync from rsync [09:53] ? [09:55] adv_: zsync uses the rsync protocol, but zsync is designed for distribution, see http://zsync.moria.org.uk/ for details [09:56] glebihan, distribution? what do you mean [09:57] adv_: zsync is intended to be used to distribute files from one server to many users, whereas rsync is originally intended to be used for synchronization [09:57] ah thanks [09:57] adv_: you're welcome [10:01] sleeping doesn't turn lcd backlight off. sleep/hibernate meets drm atom_bios_loop , drm atom_execute_table_lock error. any suggestion [10:04] how can i check what runlevel im currently in? [10:07] archer: can you file a bug against linux after following? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspendHibernateResume#Debugging%20Suspend [10:08] excuse me. but i don't think it is any related, yofel [10:08] since it is a drm err msg [10:10] hi poeple... short question about kmail: when I start kmail I always have to click on "inbox", so kamil connects to the imap-server and downloads the mail.. is there any way to do this automatically? best would be that i launch kamil and I am automatically in the specified inbox folder with downloaded mails... [10:12] yofel, how to post a feed a bug against that link? [10:13] how can i check what runlevel im currently in? [10:14] adv_: when do you want to test that [10:14] ? [10:14] glebihan, hm? now [10:15] adv_: run 'runlevel' without arguments, it will tell you which one you're running [10:15] N 2 [10:15] not that upstart cares much about runlevels these days [10:15] does that mean runlevel 2? [10:15] adv_: when the system is running, you're in runlevel 2 [10:15] so 2 is default one? [10:15] adv_: yes [10:15] thanks [10:16] archer: ok, could be a libdrm bug indeed, I suggested linux as the kernel apport hook gathers most information about your system. And what do you meen by 'feed bug' ? [10:16] haha. file it [10:17] archer: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs [10:17] the case is, after xorg is closed or at least log of xorg is no longer recorded, no more information could be gathered by apport [10:19] i think the action of auto shutdown is to protect the unit from overheating from dead loop [10:20] hm.. [10:20] so, yofel. how can i file this bug? no more info avail [10:22] archer: that's pretty much what I know about suspend debugging, maybe the others in #ubuntu-bugs know more [10:22] ty . trying that channel [10:28] yofel, that channel is XXXXXXX quiet [10:29] well, I'm not sure what you're used to, but I don't call a channel quiet until there hasn't been at least 3h of inactivity [10:29] it's not like there's an official staff looking just at the channel all the time [10:30] somebody will answer you once they see your message [10:30] i could not be there for over 2 hrs [10:34] usually we expect some response in 30 min [10:47] hi all, anyone having issues with the size of the evolution preferences window? [10:48] for me it won't go smaller than 690x780 thus won't fit on a 768 tall screen [10:51] AlanBell: its a known issue.. [10:51] AlanBell: yes known issue, somebody reported it also few days ago... [10:52] ok, evolution really needs to sort itself out with resizable stuff [10:54] AlanBell: not sure when that would change , its been around since 2005 ;) » Bug #23810 [10:54] Launchpad bug 23810 in evolution (Ubuntu) "Evolution is unusable in 800x600" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23810 [10:55] yeah, there are a load of bugs like that, especially when the 1024x600 screen was popular [10:55] since 2004 in bgo … [10:55] * AlanBell is checking out the bzr source of evolution to fix the damn problem [10:57] is there a way to check out just the current revision, so far I have 383MB of stuff in the .bzr directory and no sign of the current code yet [11:03] AlanBell, there is alt key in the keyboard [11:03] archer: what do you mean? [11:03] press alt and drag the window. will it help [11:04] archer: not if you have y constrain in compiz enabled as is the default [11:04] anyhow, I don't have a problem, I have a 2048x1152 monitor, the point is that the code is broken [11:53] got a bug number for the evolution preferences window? [11:53] the problem is the email preferences-general preferences tab has so much crud on it that it pushes out the minimum size of the window [11:54] so that needs a scrollbox outside it, which I think needs to be added around line 530 of widgets/misc/e-preferences-window.c === shookees is now known as ZNC_shookees === ZNC_shookees is now known as shookees === shookees is now known as ZNC_shookees [13:08] so guys, just downloaded and tried to install Ubuntu 10.10 and when it tried to start the Xserver the video obviously hung and locked the whole system up and therefore i was unable to carry out my installation. [13:08] So instead i had to install 10.04. [13:29] With Hal now deprecated (at least it seems to be.. no longer appearing in d-feet on Ubuntu 10.10 beta - meerkat), what is the best way to programmatically detect device inserts for things like usb devices? Before I could watch for a 'DeviceAdded' signal on Hal.Manager.. [13:31] yofel, 3 hrs already [13:31] it is as quiet as the tomb . I have to walk my dog [13:32] ok, it *is* unusually quiet today.. everyone's busy I guess [13:33] gratz|work, you're always going to see something in dmesg [13:38] I installed 2.6.35-19 on Lucid (see launchpad bug #131094), and now I get a bunch of kernel errors regarding AppArmor userspace utilities needing to be upgraded. Will I be fighting a neverending battle, fixing each little issue, until I upgrade to Maverick? [13:38] Launchpad bug 131094 in linux (Ubuntu) "Heavy Disk I/O harms desktop responsiveness" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131094 [13:40] bjsnider, was hoping for a nicer way [13:40] there's udev i guess [13:44] i'm not sure you're going to get an answer in this channel. you need to talk to an ubuntu hacker, and they just don't live here [13:45] can anyone help me with terminal crashing in xubuntu maverick? [13:55] sorted it, udev :) thx all / bjsnider [13:58] I'm looking for the Ubuntu 10.10 repository, I'm not officially using Ubuntu 10.10 (sitting on backports). Apparently the .10 repository has the latest Catalyst/AMD/ATI fglrx drivers which I need for Xorg 1.9. Somehow I can't find the repo === ZNC_shookees is now known as shookees === bilalakhtar_ is now known as bilalakhtar [14:06] Is there any bug report regarding Alt+PrintScreen not working in Maverick? [14:07] i mean is there anybody else suffering from this [14:18] nice :) They finally fixed the start splash in 10.10, now it says "Kubuntu" === bilalakhtar_ is now known as bilalakhtar [14:28] I got this error this morning runniing the update manager: http://nopaste.dk/p2476 [14:29] well I ran it again from the cl after the update manager failed [14:29] blue_anna: did you try update? sudo apt-get update [14:29] to refresh package list and might fix broken urls [14:29] yes [14:29] I did that first, but the results were not unusual so I didnt include them [14:35] blue_anna: can you try to run 'sudo dpkg --purge --force-depends python-virtkey' and try to install it again after that? [14:35] BajK, there is no broken url [14:35] ah right, did not read properly ;) [14:36] how do I get info on a package? [14:36] onboard requires python-virtkey [14:37] but I dont know what that is [14:37] apt-cache show $packagename [14:37] yofel, thank you [14:37] oo I dont need that [14:38] ok, python-virtkey just failed to upgrade here too :( [14:40] for my use -- its cool because I know I dont need the onboard package. thank you, the purge fixes my issue [14:40] already reported as bug 648695 [14:40] Launchpad bug 648695 in virtkey (Ubuntu) "package python-virtkey (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: file does not exist: /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/python_virtkey-0.60.0.egg-info" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/648695 [14:41] I got an odd error using the Update Manager, something about the Package updater failing [14:43] JAMD456: open a terminal and run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' and tell me what package failed [14:43] python-virtkey [14:43] onboard [14:43] ok, that's bug 648695 [14:43] Launchpad bug 648695 in virtkey (Ubuntu) "package python-virtkey (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: file does not exist: /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/python_virtkey-0.60.0.egg-info" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/648695 [14:46] Why is the error "Critical"? [14:47] Because that package is part of ubuntu-desktop. [14:53] On my maverick system, update of package python-virtkey is failing because of the absense of a .egg file. Anyone else facing the same problem? [14:53] bug 648695 [14:53] Launchpad bug 648695 in virtkey (Ubuntu) "package python-virtkey (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: file does not exist: /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/python_virtkey-0.60.0.egg-info" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/648695 [14:54] Thanks yofel ! === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: Official Ubuntu Maverick Meerkat support/discussion | IRC Guidelines: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines | Lucid support in #ubuntu | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickReleaseSchedule | Beta Released : See http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/maverick/beta | python-virtkey package is broken, see: https://launchpad.net/bugs/648695 [14:56] hi guys....I have a disturbing no boot-up after running update manager [14:56] every time I try to boot, I get as far as "all: disconnected from Plymouth" [14:56] and nothing else [14:57] can anyone help me get back to a working desktop? [14:57] mikebeecham: Once you get it, press Ctrl+Alt+F2 and log in with your credentials and type startx in the command line that comes [14:57] and tell us if that works [14:57] fatal server error [14:57] no screens found [14:58] hmm [14:58] ddxSigGiveUp [14:58] closing log [14:58] just tried a second time [14:58] same thing [14:58] hmm [14:59] I cannot help then [14:59] mind you...it was a HUGE list of update [14:59] sorry [14:59] can anyone else help? [14:59] Anyone here who can help mikebeecham ? [14:59] unable to connect to X server [14:59] No such process (errno 3): Server error [15:00] mikebeecham: can you pastebin you /var/log/Xorg.0.log? (using pastebinit) [15:01] yofel, you might need to guide me, I've only ever pastebinned, through desktop [15:01] !pastebinit [15:01] pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com [15:01] well, just run 'sudo apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log' [15:01] installing it [15:02] http://pastebin.com/EqEjDMtP [15:02] thanks so much for your help guys [15:03] does 'lsmod | grep nvidia' show something? [15:04] nvidia 9327267 0 [15:04] agpgart 32011 2 nvidia,via_agp [15:04] ok... are you using gnome, kde, xfce, lxde..? [15:04] gnome sir [15:05] then try to restart gdm, sudo service gdm restart [15:05] gdm start/running, process 1686 [15:06] if I do it again, I get a different number...this time 1715 [15:06] yeah, and x still doesn't come up? [15:06] nope...I remain in ttyl [15:07] switching to tty7 or 8 gives you a black screen? [15:07] sorry, how? [15:07] ctrl+alt+f7 / f8 [15:07] ahhh ok [15:07] well, f8 does nothing [15:07] f7.... [15:08] it's trying to mount my cifs shares at the momebnt, but has terminated the first two with status 32 [15:08] now all I have is a blinking cursor [15:09] still blinking [15:09] odd.. go back to tty2 and reinstall the nvidia driver [15:09] sorry mate...how? [15:09] sudo apt-get install nvidia-common? [15:09] nvidia-current [15:09] sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current && sudo apt-get install nvidia-current [15:10] ok...removing now [15:11] i wonder if it has anything to do with the nvidia beta drivers I installed recently? I installed them as I experienced nvidia lag since upgrading to maverick [15:11] errrr [15:11] anyway, it's installing current drivers at the moment [15:11] you didn't by chance use the drivers from the nvidia site? [15:11] yessir [15:11] the .run [15:11] yessir [15:11] OUCH [15:11] *feels shame coming on* [15:12] you should probably slap me about now, huh? [15:12] no, you can use them if you know what you're doing, but they don't play well with our package management and updating process [15:12] ahhh ok [15:12] mikebeecham: remove the nvidia-current package and install the .run file again [15:13] normally I stick with what Ubuntu serves up....however I noticed the lag that was documented on OMG Ubuntu [15:13] well let me get back to a desktop first before I dice with desktop death again :D [15:13] is ubiquity-frontend-gtk broken? [15:14] almost there yofel [15:14] and again...thanks for your time [15:15] mikebeecham: about beta drivers: there is 260.19.06 in the x-updates ppa https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates/ [15:15] to be honest, I'm not sure I even kept the .run drivers [15:15] unpacking drivers [15:16] depmod... [15:16] right...back to cursor [15:16] what now mate? [15:16] reboot [15:16] ok...sec [15:16] rebooting [15:17] hopefully, Ill get past plymouth this time [15:17] goodne4ss I hate plymouth...it dont even look right [15:18] nope...back to ttyl [15:18] Ubuntu Maverick (development branch) [15:18] tty1 [15:19] i'm trying tty7 [15:19] starting winbind maemon winbind [15:19] daemon** [15:19] nothing but flashing cursor [15:19] *sigh* [15:19] what does your Xorg.0.log say this time? same error? [15:20] will pastebin it [15:20] hmmm [15:20] above my login on tty1 [15:21] Your CPU appears to be lacking expected security protections. Please check your bios settings [15:21] and my pastebin: === AndrewMC_ is now known as AndrewMC [15:21] http://pastebin.com/1KkvjVW7 [15:22] Im debugging a xwindows internals problem on my machine too, what is yours? is there a launcpad ticket? [15:22] blue_anna: me? [15:22] its you who cant start x right? [15:22] yeah [15:23] thats right....carried out an Update Manager update [15:23] rebooted and BAM [15:23] no X [15:23] mikebeecham: ok, now the driver is there, but can't be loaded... can you run 'dmesg | tail -n 100 | pastebinit' ? [15:23] ok sec [15:24] afternoonings [15:24] after a fresh upgrade I had no X .. I had to remove my old /etc/X11/xorg.conf file .. and then I found it was using the fbdev driver instead of the one for nvidia [15:24] http://pastebin.com/r9KFvh0M [15:24] right, nvidia needs xorg.conf - the proprietary driver at least [15:24] blue_anna: well I have a very nicce gentlemain helping me since I'm a compelte OAF in this area [15:25] when i apt-get upgraded earlier, i am getting dpkg errors with python-virtkey and onboard,is this already known ? [15:25] brobostigon: see topic [15:25] mikebeecham, yes I see :) Iḿ listening for hints for myself too ;) [15:25] :D [15:25] yofel: i wasnt concentrating, sorry, thank you. [15:25] brobostigon, I just hit that this morning. I just uninstalled onboard .. do you need it? [15:26] blue_anna: onscreen keyboard, no, [15:27] mikebeecham: ok... what I suspect what happened: you installed the .run, UM updated some Xorg files owerwriting some of the nvidia installed ones, now you have installed the nvidia-current package providing some of them again, but the module is from the beta package. And trying to mix 2 different nvidia driver versions doesn't work [15:27] ok, makes sense mate [15:28] easiest way would be you remove nvidia-current again, fetch the .run and install that again [15:28] notably cause I was trying to be cleverer than I actually am! [15:28] recovering a system after having an nvidia.run installed ones isn't too easy [15:28] ok, but how would I get the .run if I cant get to the nivida website [15:28] or... hm [15:29] yup? [15:29] i like color hues of ATI card better than nvidia [15:29] use the .run with --uninstall [15:30] bjsnider: now you're going way past my experience level :( [15:30] mikebeecham: well.. either download the file on another pc and use an usb drive to copy it or use a terminal browser like lynx [15:30] hi [15:30] well I can do the first thing [15:30] if anyone knows how the xinput methods work I am having a keyboard issue [15:31] mikebeecham, pardon me, but you used the .run once already, correct? just add --uninstall at the end of it this time [15:31] the keyobard mostly doesnt work, is the issue. if I replug it in, it works in xfce, but not in gnome. xev shows the keyboard is physically working, its a software issue. [15:31] in gnome, changing the input manager (for example, from None to ibus) makes the keyboard function for a tiny length of time .. but one-two seconds later it will stop working again. [15:31] ok, thanks guys and gals. bye. [15:31] bjsnider: hi mate...I dont have the file anymore....can I just type in the command anyway? [15:32] I can keep changing the input manager. but that kinda sucks :P [15:33] bjsnider: it just told me that it cant open that file [15:33] I guess because I dont have it [15:36] yofel: I'm downloading them now [15:36] mikebeecham: you'll need the file first, best you use the .run with --uninstall and install the beta driver from the x-update ppa after that [15:36] ok [15:37] how will I access the pen drive? is there a particular drive label it will assign? [15:38] no you have to set a label with gparter [15:38] no, once you plug it in, run 'dmesg' and it will show as what the drive was added, you'll need the entry with the number like /dev/sdb1, after that run 'sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt' and you can access the driver from /mnt [15:39] or cehck in /media after it mounts [15:39] s/driver/drive/ [15:39] one plugged it it will automount an be in /media [15:39] erm, folks, auto-mount only works if you have a desktop environment running... [15:39] i didnt read the question ;) [15:40] TiK: he needs to mount the drive in tty as he can't start X [15:41] ok, I get it. plug it in and scan lsusb -v .. kind of a pain in the neck but you might find the /dev device there I guess [15:41] then you can mount that with the mount command and a spare directory :P [15:42] usb drive? [15:42] yea he said pendrive [15:43] you woud hve to know what it is in /dev [15:43] well, lsusb -v is a bit overkill, as the kernel will print a device add message in the kernel log with the drive name [15:43] I guess dmesg would be easier [15:43] sudo fdisk -l [15:43] mine is /dev/sdb1 [15:43] blue_anna, ^ will show what disk devices kernel sees [15:43] right, fdisk would be good too [15:44] so mkdir ~/pen && mount /dev/sdb1 ~/pen [15:44] erm, why not just use /mnt ? [15:44] so mount -t fat32 /dev/sdb1 /usb [15:44] that's what the folder is there for after all [15:44] doesn't matter [15:45] well true [15:45] less typing [15:45] TiK, looks like a plan :) [15:51] getting there [15:51] still downloaduing drivers [15:51] yofel: will be right with you :) [15:52] I get an apt error i have tryed "dpkg --configure -a" but it does not work: http://pastebin.com/AJn3S0Y9 [15:53] halvors: I mentioned to look at the topic for a reason. ( https://launchpad.net/bugs/648695 [15:53] Launchpad bug 648695 in virtkey (Ubuntu Maverick) "package python-virtkey (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: file does not exist: /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/python_virtkey-0.60.0.egg-info" [Critical,Fix committed] [15:57] right, I've mounted /dev/sdb1 [15:57] how to I get onto that mount? [15:57] mikebeecham: cd /mng [15:57] cd /mnt [15:57] cool [15:57] (if that's where you mounted it) [15:58] right [15:58] for future reference, read this ;) [15:58] !cli [15:58] The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal or type in it: man intro [15:58] right [15:59] tried to uninstall...got a lot of errors, but I'm now back to my cursor [15:59] is it worth trying to install the current drivers? [15:59] well, try it, if the .run is properly removed it should work now [16:00] installing now [16:00] if this does not work...is there a way to completely purge all video drviers and reinstall from scratch? [16:02] yay! [16:02] yofel [16:02] you're a star mate [16:02] i'm back onto my desktop [16:03] * yofel just had his experince with nvidia .run files some 3 years ago... [16:03] ahh, the memories/nightmares... [16:03] lol [16:03] tell you what...let's not go down thatr oute again [16:03] however, I wonder if I'm going to experience the lag issues now that I'm back onto current drivers? [16:04] which started this whole debarcle off to begin with [16:04] well, possibly, you can install the packaged beta driver from the x-update ppa, just add the ppa and update [16:04] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates/ [16:04] what is the difference between the packaged beta and the .run? [16:05] the packaged beta doesn't destroy your system :P [16:05] hehe [16:05] fair play [16:05] well, it's installed in a way that makes it not mess with the other system files [16:06] whereas nvidia just runs riot like a fat kid in a cake shop? [16:06] nvidia does not even recommend using its own installer. there's a sticky post on their forums where they're telling people to use the distribution installer instead [16:06] * gnomefreak went away for ~1 week and i have 290 upgraded apps [16:07] sory 190 [16:07] http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=72490 [16:08] yofel: I cant thank you enough sir [16:08] one beer or two? [16:09] give me one, you take the other one ;) [16:09] we can chink our bottles together, watching the sun go do.....oh no, thats brokeback mountain. I'll post it to you [16:10] holy schmoley....85 updates to download [16:11] only 85 [16:11] today [16:11] updating cache is taking a scary amount of 'waiting' time [16:11] oh [16:11] i need a shower...brb [16:12] e17 still not respun [16:13] * gnomefreak not going to have time before release [16:13] :( [16:13] Hi just used the 10.10 live daily build or tired and ubiqity hung at the country selection page this been reported? [16:14] not sure you would have to sift through them, if no one knows [16:14] am i here? [16:16] looks like i am [16:16] respun? [16:17] gnomefreak: yes, you are here === shookees is now known as ZNC_shookees [16:18] Amazing this is going out in three days :D [16:18] charlie-tca: thanks [16:18] notlistening: 10.10 doesn't release until the 10th of October. [16:18] yofel: re spin with current depends [16:19] RC is out thursday [16:20] as late as monday but schedule thurs [16:22] anyone else having issues with updating? [16:22] im getting a python error. [16:22] virtkey [16:22] I am. [16:22] not here yet [16:22] ok as long as its just not me..lol [16:22] but i am still updating [16:22] see topic... [16:22] Yes, we know [16:23] lol [16:23] seen [16:24] yofel, well if they know its a issue, do they have a work around for it? [16:24] i_is_broke: there is a workaround on the bug [16:24] tried it, it felled. [16:24] with a big F [16:24] really? let me try [16:24] Why does there need to be a workaround? [16:24] ill try again and see if it works. [16:25] pici, cause it wont let me update. [16:25] wfm [16:26] well im updating but not yet installing updates [16:27] gnomefreak: thats when it broke on me, is the install part. [16:29] It will break [16:29] * gnomefreak has no doubt [16:29] Well, at least it will give you a crash [16:30] something always breaks for me ;) [16:30] hm, e17 is a problem, as it doesn't build with current libecore :S [16:30] yofel: yeap i already filed bug [16:30] weeks ago [16:32] yofel: see bug 613271 [16:32] Launchpad bug 613271 in e17 (Ubuntu) "E17 is not installible due to unmet depends" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/613271 [16:32] hm, would need a FFE now, but since it's in universe and not seeded should be possible [16:32] let's see if the debian package builds fine [16:32] be back smoke [16:44] /etc/mc/filehighlight.ini seems to define and list those file categories that mc displays in different colors. What file determines what color mc actually uses? ~/.mc/filehighlight.ini does not exist. [16:48] yofel: back, and all running great!! [16:48] good to hear :) [16:50] :D [17:01] notlistening: The latest desktop cd for Ubuntu Maverick installs without errors === IdleOne_ is now known as IdleOne === bilalakhtar_ is now known as bilalakhtar === ZNC_shookees is now known as shookees === shookees is now known as ZNC_shookees [18:22] Accidently deleted the Networking Applet from my panel, can't get it back, deleted and reinstalled, and still can't find it to get it on the panel... [18:22] help? [18:26] Nevermind. [19:30] Ok, so on the main panel, the Messages applet disappeared, and now Empathy has it's own applet. And the messages one is nowhere to be found. [19:31] Anybody know how to bring the messages applet back? [19:32] !panelreset [19:32] To reset the panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel » [19:32] this won't effect a Cairo Dock will it? [19:33] Worked. Cairo came right back. thanks. === dylan_ is now known as bull === bull is now known as bull9410 === bull9410 is now known as GA_Bull [19:51] hey uh, not sure if someone can help me with this but I cant seem to get sound in either UT or UT2004 , 2.6.35-22-generic #33-Ubuntu [19:51] (64bit) [19:52] Running ubuntu 10.10, in tomboy notes, the panel plugin- note titles are invisible (I see note icons and can opten them but can't see the text title). Worked fine on Friday. Any thoughts? [19:54] gverig: bug filed [19:54] bug 627744 [19:54] Launchpad bug 627744 in tomboy (Ubuntu) "Tomboy note names are blank in the Application Indicator fallback menu" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/627744 [19:56] charlie-tca: thanks!! I did look at launchpad... not good enough apparently :) [19:56] no problem [19:57] bugs are hard to find, sometimes. [20:10] I need to change permission to a file [20:11] to restore the read permission [20:11] I removed it 'cause it was a workaround for the ia32-libs recent bugggg [20:11] bug* [20:38] How fix this bug on my PC? [20:38] https://launchpad.net/bugs/648695 [20:38] Launchpad bug 648695 in virtkey (Ubuntu Maverick) "package python-virtkey (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: file does not exist: /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/python_virtkey-0.60.0.egg-info" [Critical,Fix released] [20:59] kubuntu 10.10 installer crashes in virtualbox....is there a cli or any other method to install?? [21:07] Try the alternate image? [21:34] evening === iConfused|away is now known as iConfused [21:43] !panelreset [21:43] To reset the panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel » [21:44] Well. I reseted my panel, and Network Manager's applet is still missing......... [21:45] GA_Bull: launch "nm-applet" [21:46] got this response [21:46] An instance of nm-applet is already running. [21:46] ** (nm-applet:2518): WARNING **: constructor(): Couldn't initialize the D-Bus manager. [21:47] GA_Bull: trying killing the running nm-applet and start it again [21:49] killed it, and brought it back, and got this response [21:49] dylan@Dylan-Ubuntu:~$ nm-applet [21:49] ** Message: applet now removed from the notification area [21:49] ** (nm-applet:2631): DEBUG: old state indicates that this was not a disconnect 0 [21:50] i'm going to try to kill it a second time. and see if it works. [21:56] ok, back, now i'm going to try to kill it and bring it back.... [21:56] ok [21:58] can't even get it to let me kill it now... still getting the first message... [21:58] dylan@Dylan-Ubuntu:~$ nm-applet [21:58] ** Message: applet now removed from the notification area [21:58] ** (nm-applet:4577): DEBUG: old state indicates that this was not a disconnect 0 [21:59] GA_Bull: do you get to launch nm-connection-editor ? [22:00] i can try. one sec. [22:00] yup, it runs just fine. [22:01] GA_Bull: what you try is first killing nm-applet, then restart network-manager (sudo service network-manager restart) and then restart nm-applet [22:01] what you *can* try [22:02] ok. i'm still trying to get it to let me kill nm-applet again. it won'd pgrep it now. [22:03] then it's probably not running [22:04] ok, just tried the process you gave me... and i'm still getting the same message. [22:06] dylan@Dylan-Ubuntu:~$ nm-applet [22:06] ** Message: applet now removed from the notification area [22:06] ** (nm-applet:4806): DEBUG: old state indicates that this was not a disconnect 0 [22:09] running it as sudo doesn't work either. [22:10] GA_Bull: I think it's a known bug [22:10] bug 589362 [22:10] Launchpad bug 589362 in network-manager-applet (Ubuntu) "NM-applet doesn't start" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/589362 [22:10] ok, [22:10] hadn't checked that. doh. [22:11] well. I can live without it for a while. I can still connect to networks. [22:18] i'm going to try one more panel reset. [22:18] !panelreset [22:18] To reset the panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel » [22:18] and now gnome-power-manager crashed. [22:18] ok, it's back. [22:49] http://demandprogress.org/blacklist/?source=bb < Help stop internet censorship in the US GOGOGO D: [22:50] I have just installed the latest 10.10 build and updates are broken any clues...? [22:50] anyone have any issues with wireless running really slow on 10.10 beta rls? Im getting updates at 10kb/sec. [22:50] notlistening: do you get an error? [22:51] yeah two i will just get the laptop and it is when i run apt-get update [22:51] i am getting an strange error after today's update : E: python-virtkey: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 [22:51] E: onboard: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured [22:52] killer999_, I had that. I just removed it [22:52] is this related to virtualbox? [22:52] killer999_: see /topic [22:52] I dont use onboard so I figured, why not [22:52] uhm...what should i remove? [22:53] I removed both onboard and python-virtkey, but thats upto you if you want to. [22:53] or wait for a fix.. [22:55] ChogyDan, seems like it is unable to talk to some repositories for updates [22:56] also getting problems with internet traffic [22:56] killer999 i had the same problem [22:56] connected directly into the hub of my router [22:56] so removing is the only solution as of now as this happens with every app I install?? [22:57] notlistening: same problems i am having [22:57] killer999_: just wait a bit, the update is coming soon [22:57] notlistening: although mine is over wireless [22:57] uvacav, it is a networking issue or...? [22:57] uvacav, if you mean today itself, then I can wait === yofel_ is now known as yofel [22:58] uvacav, I also had problems initally running update [22:58] killer999_ : that was choggydan who said to wait [22:58] oops [22:58] ma bad [22:58] uvacav, seems that it is not my network card then...? [22:58] ChogyDan, if you mean today itself, then I can wait [22:58] notlistening: all i know is i just installed the beta rls (not daily rls), and my connection is really slow AND i cant update [22:58] uvacav, went back and installed the beta as the daily build kept hanging [22:59] the python-virtkey bug is fixed, you just have to wait until the fix has made it to all mirrors [22:59] killer999_: I just got it myself. [22:59] notlistening: same exact thing i did [22:59] notlistening: my updates are failing with "(-5 - No address associated with hostname)" [23:00] uvacav what hardware is the wirless card? [23:00] oh...BTW I have heard 'yofel' name somewhere else... [23:00] notlistening: atheros, ar9285 [23:01] killer999_: I tend to stray around a bit from time to time, so quite possible [23:01] totally different, have you made any progress, it seems to hit some repositories and not others [23:01] lol no i mean in some ppa package [23:01] yofel, you maintain a ppa by any chance? [23:01] notlistening: nope first thing i did is come here, i'll let u know if i figure something out.. out of curiosity what router are you using [23:02] killer999_: I have a few, see my LP page https://launchpad.net/~yofel [23:02] uvacav, there may be a better driver for that card in the backports-wireless package [23:02] it's ath9k in any event [23:03] bjsnider: i'l check that out, thanks [23:04] Thompson - TG585v7 [23:04] i'm not sure if the kernel team has that package set up for maverick yet [23:04] !info linux-backports-wireless-generic maverick [23:04] Package linux-backports-wireless-generic does not exist in maverick [23:05] ah [23:05] just a box supplied by my board band supplier [23:05] I will go dig deeper [23:05] !info linux-backports-modules-wireless-maverick-generic [23:05] linux-backports-modules-wireless-maverick-generic (source: linux-meta): Backported wireless drivers for generic kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.35.22.23 (maverick), package size 4 kB, installed size 32 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia all armel) [23:06] uvacav, install that and reboot [23:07] notlistening: its not verizon fios is it? maybe some sort of ipv6 thing i dunno.. [23:07] bjsnider: i will try that, thanks [23:07] hi, is there kde 4.5.1 packages available for ubuntu 10.10? [23:07] or 4.5.x [23:09] scummos: maverick has 4.5.1 [23:11] yofel: okay, cool [23:11] thanks [23:11] yofel, uhm ok...now I know [23:34] LP down? [23:34] anyone knows how to boot 10.10 using unetbootin? i currently get an "no init found" error [23:35] gnome-terminal vanished.. and I get some error when trying to install it [23:36] Ian_corne: not here [23:37] hrmf [23:38] My problem with updating seems to be that apt can not resolve ubuntu.com [23:38] I'm really not getting anything through [23:38] I have tried UK server and Main Server [23:38] Error reading https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~banshee-team/+archive/banshee-unstable: [23:39] and ssh is no longer included on the CD..? [23:39] wtf [23:39] ssh server never was preinstalled [23:40] if that's what you're talking about [23:40] not pre install but i can not access internet updates but i have forced it to use the sources on CD and no ssh..? === bill_ is now known as pegasbill === pegasbill is now known as pegasusbill [23:46] yellow [23:47] is the release v10.10 oct 1st? [23:49] pegasusbill, October 10th [23:51] I just installed the latest AMD64 Kubuntu 10.10 Beta 1: I'm having trouble installing kbluetooth: I just installed aptitude but it claims the package kbluetooth doesn't even exist. Do I need to enable an extra Repo to get Kbluetooth? Or how exactly do I get Kbluetooth installed...? [23:53] Fixed the updating proglem ;) [23:53] shame he has gone :P [23:54] Have there been any other reports of the update issue..? [23:54] notlistening: you mean python-virtkey? that's fixed [23:55] no apt not being able to resiolve ubuntu.com [23:55] that sounds like a DNS issue to me [23:56] yeah i think it is but not with my DNS as all my other machines run normally [23:56] ping works find [23:56] but apt doesn't [23:56] craig: kbluetooth is deprecated, maverick uses bluedevil [23:56] added ubuntu.com to /etc/hosts and hey presto it worked [23:56] that's odd.. [23:56] very